Bitter Clinger Birchers?
Been reading Miller?
I see why you keep repeating this Bircher thing over and over.
I see why they scare you.
Just because the rhetoric is similar doesnât mean itâs the source. Ideas, principles, very easily transcend organizations.
Take the conspiracy theories (many of which end up being partially true) out and what do Bircherâs believe that is inherently evil to anyone but a socialist?
Collectivism is a cancer.
The US is a republic, not a democracy.
Stateâs rights should supercede except where designated by the Constitution.
The U.S. Constitution has been devalued in favor of political and economic globalization.
There is a moral decline in this country and it is
intentional.
There are intentional efforts to destroy the family as a culture generator. I posted an example from Kate Miller of NOW this week. And of course there is the infamous BLM mission.
You will now call me âa bIrChER!â I donât care. I donât have a membership card, I donât pay dues, I donât go to meetings or read newsletters. Most of what I know about them came from Wikipedia in the last 10 minutes.
Just like I doubt you do with the CPUSA or the Democratic Socialists of America. But it would be very easy to paint you with either of those brushes because of shared ideas. Are you?
I also share some ideas with the DSA. For example that corporations have far too much power and are abusing the working class. I stop short of âsocial ownership of production as public enterprises, worker cooperativesâ - decentralized planning is a âmmmmmm.â
Am I DSA as well as a bIrChER?
It is very reductionist (and convenient) to label and assign baskets to deplorables. Just remember, it goes both ways.
You are participating in the Culture War you so deny.
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This is really it. The culture is changing too fast for around half the people. Then when that half protests, some of the other half label those protesting as racist and bigots. Unfortunately, it probably gets worse before it gets better.
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I generally agree with your post. This partâŚ
I am probably reading into it, but this sounds like the change is for the better? And that the speed is the problem?
If so, I disagree.
This country is in decline, how fast it is declining is not really the issue in my opinion. Although I will agree it feels like it is speeding up to me.
We are losing the liberalism that gave life to American exceptionalism and it is intentional.
It is not ever going to get âbetter.â Because âbetterâ never means better for everyone. Itâs always worse for some.
At least now the war is out in the open and being fought by both sides. Albeit insanely.
The constant outrage innoculation and subsequent need for âmoreâ to sustain zealotry, while human, is cringe. Itâs a porn addiction requiring ever more perverse to feed it. Disgusting.
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I think some things have changed for the better and some for the worse. When I talk about things getting better that is when the country is no longer divided this closely on what should be. It could be better could be worse but itâs more like a 70 - 30 split in opinions instead of 50 - 50.
What, morally, has changed for the better?
Who is the 70?
Women have way more rights now than when I was a kid.
No idea. I probably wonât be alive the next time 70 percent are happy with the current culture at the time. But it will happen or the country will no longer exist because it will be torn completely apart.
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Says the guy who calls everyone he disagrees with a âcriticism progââŚ
I donât know many people who want govt. ownership.
It would be very easy to look back past the Reagan Revolution, when corporate power was tempered and reenact the policies that resulted in a smaller wealth gap, and less corporate power, and better quality of life for working class americans.
But enough Americans have fallen for the con and vote against their interests.
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What ârightsâ do women have now that they didnât then?
I doubt 70 were ever on the same page.
I say the country is already torn apart. We have reached the point of irreconcilable differences in more than the radical fringes. On both sides.
I wouldnât say itâs completely overtaken the center, but that center is shrinking rapidly. Maybe itâs already gone?
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When I was a kid I had a stay at home mom as did most kids. Very few of the women I graduated with became stay at home moms and quite a few were successful in whatever profession they went into.
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We were worse off when we had a civil war and managed to come back from it.
Itâs really hard to be in the middle when one fringe will paint you as being part of the other fringe when you disagree with them on one thing.
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Critprog. Critprog is a portmanteau of critical theorists and progressives. These two sets of idiots share quite a few characteristics. Both are antithetical to liberalism in that they require collectivism to have any chance at all of life.
And collectivism is the polar opposite of liberalism. In fact, the former must destroy the latter to survive.
Itâs not âeveryone I disagree with.â I disagree with republicans quite a bit.
I disagree with imposition of all values other than liberalism.
Regulatory socialism is de facto socialism. And we have it now and more so daily. It is collectivist.
What you want is irrelevant. What you espouse is at hand.
You certainly had no problem with government âownershipâ during the Great 'Rona Hysteria. Now whine about âthe greater good.â
Critprogs and their C&S donât understand the role of government in this country. Nor the Constitution. Or they understand and have âprogressedâ it. Fundamentally changing the country. And not for the better.
There is no âtheir interest.â Your interests are diametrically opposed to my interests. I want to be left alone. You want a nanny with her nose in every aspect of your life. I see government as a necessary evil. You see it as a provider. A caregiver.
Better is never better for everyone. Itâs always worse for some.
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They always had the ârightâ to work outside. And did. Was there a law against it?
My woman has been a âstay at homeâ for 30 years. First as a mother, then as a household manager. She is one semester shy of a degree in psychology, raised and educated sons, contributes tremendously to our family. Itâs just not monetarily rewarded by some 3rd party. I know the value and it far exceeds a paycheck. She has been very successful in her profession.
Of course it required âsacrificesâ on the tangible side. Well worth it to both of us.
Money canât buy the important things, just the baubles.
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Some were. Some were unjustly punished for things they didnât do or even believe in. Because of the geography they landed in.
The destruction of education is directly related to reconstruction.
I can see that. It requires an internal locus of control, I am blessed in that regard.
The hard part may be finding a middle to be part of. I really donât need that either. Iâm not much of a joiner.
That was a choice, they had the ârightâ to do either. Or neither. Or both.
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Youâre correct, they had the right but were morally expect to be stay at home moms. That is no longer the case.
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And companies were allowed to discriminate against them on the basis of their sex.
That is no longer true.
Do you think Corps have too much power or not?
If so, what would you like to do about it?
I disagree. It is still âmorally expectedâ of them to be good mothers? And no matter what others say, âgood motherâ requires presence. Especially in the formative years.
Are we raising good sons with mothers not staying at home, at least early on, say the first 7 years?
There are trade offs, consequences, for everything we choose. They will remember everytime we were there, very little of what we bought them.
Are women raising good sons without a man in the home on a consistent basis?
It doesnât take a village, but it does take a woman and a man. And itâs not 50/50. Ever. It is an ebb and flow based on circumstances and development.
A child is much better off from birth to 7 in a $100k home with a stay at home mother than in a $500k house with both parents working.
A child doesnât care if the car he is riding with his dad to baseball practice is a 10 year old truck or a Tesla. Is dad going stay and watch practice? Even coach?
Our materialism and pathological need to keep up with the Bezos and Gates has warped our values. Itâs also damaging our young.
Thereâs nothing wrong with striving for better, as long as we truly understand what âbetterâ is and the consequences of what weâre trading off.
To me, there is no greater responsibility than raising a child. Especially a son, Iâm biased. âRaisingâ, the definition, I believe we have lost as a society. I see it making a come back on social media, but I donât know if itâs real or just clicks. I hope itâs real.
There has been a concerted effort to destroy the model for at least 3 generations now. Why? Itâs not a âconspirac6 theoryâ, they openly say it. They are redefining what it is to be a man and a woman.
Without men and women, real men and women, classic definition, we are indeed doomed.
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Having said all that, somebody has to go outside and provide. That is the role of the man.
I canât provide and be home all day. Can I provide the necessary, enough, and be present when needed?
The Balance.
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