Last Friday there was a guy from Oregon who called in and challenged Sean on why he opposed Gov't health care. The guy said something that made me think right before Sean cut him off. I'm paraphrasing here a bit but you'll get the gist...
"When a parent has to hear that their child won't be covered because they are overweight or another pre-existing condition, they last thing they're worried about is their freedom..."
Are we in an argument over persepective here as it pertains to health care? Those of us who are fortunate to have health care have the luxury of spouting the ills over free health care for all. Those who aren't insured certainly don't. I think socialized health care is dangerous but I thought that caller made a good point before getting the boot. It is all about perspectives, IMO.
Last Friday there was a guy from Oregon who called in and challenged Sean on why he opposed Gov't health care. The guy said something that made me think right before Sean cut him off. I'm paraphrasing here a bit but you'll get the gist...
"When a parent has to hear that their child won't be covered because they are overweight or another pre-existing condition, they last thing they're worried about is their freedom..."
Are we in an argument over persepective here as it pertains to health care? Those of us who are fortunate to have health care have the luxury of spouting the ills over free health care for all. Those who aren't insured certainly don't. I think socialized health care is dangerous but I thought that caller made a good point before getting the boot. It is all about perspectives, IMO.
I think you make an excellent point, but I don't think you will have many who will agree with you. Whatever Hannity's reply was to the caller is what I expect people on this board to say
Here's the difference, aside from power struggles of politicians, between the Dems and the Republicans.
The Dems are focusing on trying to get coverage for everyone. By doing this, they either force people to do what the government mandates or face a hefty fine in today's increasingly struggling economy.
The Republicans are focusing on smaller steps first. Control costs. That's pretty much the first move, though it's done via a multitude of methods (competition across state lines, tort reform, etc).
So one could say they are both trying to make healthcare "affordable" to everyone..it's just which method would you prefer?
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I understand the politics behind it. My point is what is the perspective of the average person who may not understand the back alley aspects of this thing. They just want their kids to be covered in the event they get sick.
So Rocket, you are syaing that people who listen to Hannity, Rush etc... can't think for themselves? If you ever bothered to pay attention to almost any conservative talk host, they are all in favor of reforming health care. They oppose Obama's plan (whatever that is as of today), but instead favor alternatives that cover everyone without destroying the best health care system in the world. Most of these guys have been a lot more specific about alternative ideas that Obama has.
I understand the politics behind it. My point is what is the perspective of the average person who may not understand the back alley aspects of this thing. They just want their kids to be covered in the event they get sick.
It really is that simple to most Americans.
I'm sure it is. That's the beauty in the simplicity of politics though.
It's just like campaigning. You make a lot of promises you don't intend to keep.
These people that don't have coverage that want it for themselves or their kids is understandable, but if they really know what it would entail and that there's a fair chance their kids won't be getting any coverage any time soon and that their kids are going to be stuck paying for huge Congressional bills later on, might change their mind, it might not.
It depends on their outlook.
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So Rocket, you are syaing that people who listen to Hannity, Rush etc... can't think for themselves? If you ever bothered to pay attention to almost any conservative talk host, they are all in favor of reforming health care. They oppose Obama's plan (whatever that is as of today), but instead favor alternatives that cover everyone without destroying the best health care system in the world. Most of these guys have been a lot more specific about alternative ideas that Obama has.
A lot of them, yes. If you read these boards daily it sounds eerily similar to the soundbites and positions held by Hannity. He repeats them 3 times and day and then they are repeated here all day long. Do I think all people who listen to them can't think for themselves- certainly not.
Let's take the word dither- until Cheney said it, did you ever hear Hannity use it in reference to Afghanistan? Now Sean does it, Rush too. Look at the last week's post- full of dither this and dither that. So you tell me, suddenly all of these people are using the same terminology not influenced by what they hear? Of course they are.
I would love to have more meaningful back and forths with people like yourself who can think for him/herself.
Last Friday there was a guy from Oregon who called in and challenged Sean on why he opposed Gov't health care. The guy said something that made me think right before Sean cut him off. I'm paraphrasing here a bit but you'll get the gist...
"When a parent has to hear that their child won't be covered because they are overweight or another pre-existing condition, they last thing they're worried about is their freedom..."
Are we in an argument over persepective here as it pertains to health care? Those of us who are fortunate to have health care have the luxury of spouting the ills over free health care for all. Those who aren't insured certainly don't. I think socialized health care is dangerous but I thought that caller made a good point before getting the boot. It is all about perspectives, IMO.
I didn't hear the conversation, but I would imagine that Sean would have said something along the lines of, "there are many ways to address this one issue and many of the issues that are brought up about our healthcare system without going so far as the monstrosity that is being proposed in Congress."
And he's absolutely correct and I agree with him.
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So Rocket, you are syaing that people who listen to Hannity, Rush etc... can't think for themselves? If you ever bothered to pay attention to almost any conservative talk host, they are all in favor of reforming health care. They oppose Obama's plan (whatever that is as of today), but instead favor alternatives that cover everyone without destroying the best health care system in the world. Most of these guys have been a lot more specific about alternative ideas that Obama has.
Well, he has a point in that the vast majority of the callers are of the "Sean, Rush, Glenn, you are absolutely right, the voice of the people, understand the average American, etc" variety despite the fact that these guys make several times what most average Americans make in a year and definitely do not go through what the average American goes through financially.
As a conservative who enjoys conservative talk radio, I do know to take what these guys say with a grain of salt as it refers to the economy, inner workings of politics, science, etc because they are not experts by any means with any educational background to spout things as fact. It's entertainment, plain and simple.
I'm sure it is. That's the beauty in the simplicity of politics though.
It's just like campaigning. You make a lot of promises you don't intend to keep.
These people that don't have coverage that want it for themselves or their kids is understandable, but if they really know what it would entail and that there's a fair chance their kids won't be getting any coverage any time soon and that their kids are going to be stuck paying for huge Congressional bills later on, might change their mind, it might not.
It depends on their outlook.
If your kid has a serious illness the last thing you worry about is whether or not they have to pay for it in the future.
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