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Default Owners of Toyota Cars in Rebellion Over Series of Accidents

Owners of Toyota Cars in Rebellion Over Series of Accidents Caused by Sudden Acceleration

ABC News Investigation Uncovers Reports of 16 Deaths, Over 200 Accidents; Toyota Owners Demand Answers

By BRIAN ROSS, JOSEPH RHEE, ANGELA M. HILL and MEGAN CHUCHMACH
Nov. 3, 2009

Refusing to accept the explanation of Toyota and the federal government, hundreds of Toyota owners are in rebellion after a series of accidents caused by what they call "runaway cars."

Safety analysts found an estimated 2000 cases in which owners of Toyota cars including Camry, Prius and Lexus, reported that their cars surged without warning up to speeds of 100 miles per hour.

Toyota says the incidents are caused by floor mats becoming stuck under gas pedals, but owners say that's not what happened to them.

"I'm absolutely certain that in my situation, it was not the floor mats," Elizabeth James told ABC News. She was driving her Toyota Prius outside Denver, CO when she says it suddenly shot up to 90 miles an hour, even though her foot was on the brake and not the gas pedal.

"I kept going faster and faster," James said. "And all of a sudden… my foot was pressing on the brake super, super hard and I wasn't slowing down."

James and some other Toyota owners suspect the accidents have been caused by some kind of glitch in the electronic computer system used in Toyotas that controls the throttle.

Toyota officials refused to talk with ABC News about the incidents, but posted a statement from executive Bob Daly on its website last night that said: "Some news reports suggest there may be other causes of unintended acceleration, speculating about electronic engine control systems, braking performance or electro-magnetic interference among other theories. There is no evidence to support these theories."

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Runawa...ory?id=8980479

There is something very wrong here and it confirms my original thought that this can't be from the mats, not after the money that has been spent engineering these cars.

There are no reports of Chevrolet Trucks having this problem.
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i have thought since the first day that the floor matt excuse was very weak. Floor mats would explain maybe why you could not press on the break pedal but it would not explain why easing off of the gas pedal would not stop the acceleration.
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I told them they should use the Mac OS for their control system instead of Windows Vista....
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Then the car owner would spend more time proselytizing about how superior his car supposedly is than he would actually driving it.
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i have thought since the first day that the floor matt excuse was very weak. Floor mats would explain maybe why you could not press on the break pedal but it would not explain why easing off of the gas pedal would not stop the acceleration.
stuff just doesn't add up

pop it into neutral I guess
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I have no idea why this is a political issue..

But don't think that GM (Chevy) does not have their issues:

quick google search resulted in this.. and they don't even cover the issues I had with the rear end, transmission (yes, plural)s and the engine blowing up in my Fireturd, and then GM refusing to honor the warranty saying I was racing it... a v6... all of 180 horsepower, if that..

http://www.chevylemon.com/chevrolet-complaints.php

Chevrolet Complaints

BRAKING PROBLEMS - Consumers have complained of cars not braking properly, noises when braking, and premature wear of rotors and pads. This has been more prevalent in Chevrolet Cobalt, Colorado, Equinox, HHR, Malibu, Silverado, Tahoe and Uplander models.
STEERING PROBLEMS - Consumers have complained of difficulty steering, loss of steering fluid, and replacement of steering components. This has been more prevalent in Cobalt, Equinox, Express, HHR, Impala, Silverado, Tahoe, Trailblazer, and Uplander models.
CHECK ENGINE LIGHT - There are many reasons why a check engine light would come on, however, it’s the customer’s responsibility to bring this to the service manager’s attention each time it appears. Failure to do so could result in serious mechanical problems and possible voiding of warranty. The check engine light is more often present in Avalanche, Cobalt, Colorado, Equinox, HHR, Silverado, SSR, Suburban, Tahoe and Trailblazer models.
ELECTRICAL CONCERNS - From flickering lights on the dashboard, to power locks and windows not working, to complete loss of power, Chevrolet consumers frequently suffer with electrical concerns. This occurs more often in Aveo, C5500, Cobalt, Impala, Malibu, Silverado, Suburban, Tahoe and Trailblazer models.
WATER LEAKS - Consumers have complained about water leaks on passenger floors, in trunks, and around windshields. Water leaks can cause a variety of problems down the road if not treated, including mold. Leaks have been more prevalent in Avalanche, Cobalt, Colorado, Equinox, HHR, Malibu, Silverado, and Tahoe models.
You can view defects and technical service bulletins particular to your year, make and model by visiting the NHTSA database.
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Then the car owner would spend more time proselytizing about how superior his car supposedly is than he would actually driving it.
Don't Prius owners do that already?
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Then the car owner would spend more time proselytizing about how superior his car supposedly is than he would actually driving it.
The prius owners are already doing this, and they don't just mean their cars, either.

But that's no reason they should have their safety in peril.

What's obama doing on this?
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