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Old August 20th, 2009, 6:49 pm
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Which raises more concern – a student’s prayer thanking God at a graduation ceremony or the President invoking his partnership with God in life and death matters while promoting his government health care Plan?

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Old August 20th, 2009, 6:50 pm
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I can barely believe that Obama is doing this. Obama is practically calling people sinners for disagreeing with him. Partners with God, bearing false witness.

How desparate must Obama be?

"I am Obama and you shall not have strange political views before me."
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Old August 20th, 2009, 6:56 pm
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Do not confuse truth with falsehood, nor conceal the truth knowingly. Be firm in devotion; give zakat (the due share of your wealth for the welfare of others), and bow with those who bow (before God). Will you enjoin good deeds on the others and forget your own selves? You also read the Scriptures, why do you then not understand?

The Quran 2:42-44

Isn't this what Obama is saying?
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Old August 20th, 2009, 6:59 pm
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Aren't these the same people who want "In God we Trust" taken off our money, etc. Now they want to partner with God? Isn't there a mental diagnosis for this sort of twisted logic?
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who is interpreting it? You?
Our society has reached that interpretation. The Supreme Court has made that interpretation in various specific cases.
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We have Freedom OF religion not Freedom FROM religion.
That's a very nice slogan. Is someone keeping you from your religion?
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Old August 20th, 2009, 7:27 pm
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Our society has reached that interpretation. The Supreme Court has made that interpretation in various specific cases.

That's a very nice slogan. Is someone keeping you from your religion?
"We need to take faith seriously not only to block the religious right but to engage all persons of faith in the larger project of American renewal." -BARACK OBAMA

Please interpret this for me if you would.
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Old August 20th, 2009, 7:35 pm
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Verily if thou join any partners with God, thy work will be altogether unprofitable, and thou shalt certainly be one of those who perish: wherefore rather fear God, and be one of those who give thanks.

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And certainly, it has been revealed to you and to those before you: Surely if you associate (with Allah), your work would certainly come to naught and you would certainly be of the losers. Nay! but serve Allah alone and be of the thankful.

How does Obama think that he is going to reconcile this statement about being "partners with God" with the teachings of the Islam and the Quran which states that the gravest offense is to set up partners with God?
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Old August 20th, 2009, 7:55 pm
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No surprise here that Obama believes himself to be on the same level as God
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Old August 21st, 2009, 3:42 am
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We partner with God when we become people He can guide and use to fulfill His purposes here on earth.

Kevin Brennfleck and Kay Marie Brennfleck on Pat Robertson’s CBN website
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Old August 21st, 2009, 3:46 am
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Does Obama know that abortion is forbidden by the Bible? Shoot! Abortion is forbidden by the Quran even. I wonder how Muslim Americans will feel about their tax dollars being used for abortion? What will our Muslim friends in the middle east say?
The Hyde Amendment forbids tax dollars being spent for abortion.

But check Exodus 21:22 That biblical passage outlines the Mosaic law in a case where a man is responsible for causing a woman's miscarriage, which kills the fetus If the woman survives, then the perpetrator has to pay a fine to the woman's husband. If the woman dies, then the perpetrator is also killed. This indicates that the fetus has value, but does not have the status of a person.
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