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Old November 7th, 2009, 2:12 pm
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none of that goes away just because a minimum is set.
You are evidently totally unaware of what is in the bill. The purpose of it is to force the insurance cos out of business and have the gov take total control of a large portion of the economy. Its all about power and special interests.
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Old November 7th, 2009, 2:14 pm
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So basically the idea is to restrict Congress' own healthcare plan options more than its restricted for the rest of America?
No, the same restrictions.
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Old November 7th, 2009, 2:15 pm
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You are evidently totally unaware of what is in the bill. The purpose of it is to force the insurance cos out of business and have the gov take total control of a large portion of the economy. Its all about power and special interests.
i'm sure that's what you have been told to believe.
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Old November 7th, 2009, 2:22 pm
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I didn't know you meant specifically Federal Government when you said Government.

If you're okay with state government actions, they are talking about letting state governments opt-out of the public option. If your state decides they don't want any part of it you don't need to be allowed access to the Health Exchange

Even if our states opt out we will still have to pay.
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Old November 7th, 2009, 2:47 pm
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i'm sure that's what you have been told to believe.
How are private companies going to compete with the government? They can't, that is just common sense.

You are the one buying into the lies that BO and his minions are selling.

85% of Americans are satisfied with their health care options. The other 15% consist of people that choose not to have insurance or are illegal and can't afford it because they are being used by their employers. The poor are covered under medicaid, and the elderly by medicare. Why is a complete overhaul necessary?

Everything the government controls gets so bogged down in bureauacy that is wasteful and inefficient. They talk about cutting the fraud out of SS to fund parts of this bill, fine do that first. They are going to cut medicare advantage to give insurance to the illegals. Do you think that is right?

Everyone is going to be forced to pay a premium and eventually everyone will be forced unto this plan when they drop their current insurance to go to a new job.

There is so much in this bill that will destroy small businesses, that our unemployment rate will shoot up to 15-20% within a year after it is enacted.
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Old November 7th, 2009, 3:45 pm
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I had so much already typed for posting, but decided not to "Tell it like it REALLY is" I do know several federal employees and........ I should be so lucky as to have had their jobs.
If our 'Government', and I use that term loosely, wants to pass all this "GARBAGE", that few can understand, even up to the President, then FORCE THEM have EXACTLY what the rest of the nations citizens have, Like they are FORCING US, and make them pay the same high costs as we do for it. That goes for waiting in ER and other lines if they must. Poor things, that they would have to endure the same as the peons that pay for their lifestyles.

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I too, had a bunch of stuff typed, but if you have never had to R I S K any thing to feed yourself, its moot.
There will never be any understanding.
People like this will never understand what it is like to pay someone elses SS tax, that PUNATIVE end of it the employer gets to pay, extra.... they think only about what is taken out of "their " check for those funds, but do they EVER think about the EXTRA the employer pays?
dont get me started...

especially while that MORON THEIF THUG charlie rangle is speaking/ oops, LYING.grrr
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Old November 7th, 2009, 4:07 pm
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someone correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't the government-run plan the bare minimum? are you really in favor of forcing members of congress that can afford better to accept a bare minimum plan?

I thought I read that there were going to be 3 different levels of the governmnet plan.
Same overall coverage but different deductibles, copays, or whatever.
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Old November 7th, 2009, 4:12 pm
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I thought I read that there were going to be 3 different levels of the governmnet plan.
Same overall coverage but different deductibles, copays, or whatever.
And in five years??
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I thought I read that there were going to be 3 different levels of the governmnet plan.
Same overall coverage but different deductibles, copays, or whatever.
Yep. I read it. The public option will have to have the same requirements the health exchange plans have and they will offer basic, enhanced, premium and premium plus plans.

The cry that it is just a bare minimum plan is totally false.
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