Why Do So Many People Think The Anti-Christ Has To Be Jewish?

[byzantine catholic]

Originally Posted by lwdc

Sure. First, there's the prophecy of Gen 49:17. Second, Dan is conspicuously absent from the roster of tribes given in Rev 7.

I'm not saying the argument is correct or incorrect, but that's where it comes from.

Yes you are right that is where the Dan theory comes from.

[Jacob_Rising]

Originally Posted by byzantine catholic

Yes you are right that is where the Dan theory comes from.

If Dan would have been named, The author of Revelation wouldn't have insight.

Each tribe has a function and Dan couldn't possibly be named in this list because his function was complete and there is no more Dan.

[cbut1]

Originally Posted by The Infamous Din

I'm into it. Let'r rip.

I was just reminding a few of earlier in the thread comments I made on this topic.

The Temple is a Key componant of understanding who or where the AC comes from.

If one takes the view that the Temple is a literal building then it is open to where is that building erected at.

If one takes the Temple to be a universal body of people that comprise the make up of the Church then the AC is going to be open to a broad array of possible candidates.

If one takes the Temple to be representative of a Specific Sanctified body of people (which is where I sit in understanding) then the AC is going to come up out of them, thusly narrowing the scope of who could be the AC.

[byzantine catholic]

Originally Posted by Jacob_Rising

If Dan would have been named, The author of Revelation wouldn't have insight.

Each tribe has a function and Dan couldn't possibly be named in this list because his function was complete and there is no more Dan.

In Genesis it says Dan will be a serpent. And in Revelations like I said Dan is not among the 144,000 from the 12 tribes of Israel saved.

[The Infamous Din]

Originally Posted by cbut1

I was just reminding a few of earlier in the thread comments I made on this topic.

The Temple is a Key componant of understanding who or where the AC comes from.

If one takes the view that the Temple is a literal building then it is open to where is that building erected at.

If one takes the Temple to be a universal body of people that comprise the make up of the Church then the AC is going to be open to a broad array of possible candidates.

If one takes the Temple to be representative of a Specific Sanctified body of people (which is where I sit in understanding) then the AC is going to come up out of them, thusly narrowing the scope of who could be the AC.

Interesting. I'll have to ponder this in regard to my own studies.

[jantwenty1981]

People don't have to guess about the anti-Christ. If you realize the Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ was written before the Temple was destroyed in 70 AD, then all of the prophecies fall into place easily. God's focus was on restoring all things. His goal was to bring all of Israel back together. He did that by offering salvation to the Gentiles (Ephraim) as well as to the Jews. Ephraim (the multitude of nations/ fullness of the Gentiles) went off and committed idolatry and wasn't listed in the 12 tribes in the Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ, although they had been listed as one of the 12 in the Old Testament. God brought them back after Jesus died and the Gospel was preached to them for 40 years. This was the restoration of all things. Returning to destroy the earth isn't even on God's radar screen. The coming of Jesus Christ was to destroy the elements (principles/laws) not the physical earth. God receives glory when people praise Him, why would He want that to stop?

Caesar Nero was the anti-Christ.

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/re...70AD_Kiser.htm

[The Infamous Din]

Originally Posted by jantwenty1981

People don't have to guess about the anti-Christ. If you realize the Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ was written before the Temple was destroyed in 70 AD, then all of the prophecies fall into place easily. God's focus was on restoring all things. His goal was to bring all of Israel back together. He did that by offering salvation to the Gentiles (Ephraim) as well as to the Jews. Ephraim (the multitude of nations/ fullness of the Gentiles) went off and committed idolatry and wasn't listed in the 12 tribes in the Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ, although they had been listed as one of the 12 in the Old Testament. God brought them back after Jesus died and the Gospel was preached to them for 40 years. This was the restoration of all things. Returning to destroy the earth isn't even on God's radar screen. The coming of Jesus Christ was to destroy the elements (principles/laws) not the physical earth. God receives glory when people praise Him, why would He want that to stop?

Caesar Nero was the anti-Christ.

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/re...70AD_Kiser.htm

I completely and respectfully disagree with your view.

[Jacob_Rising]

Originally Posted by The Infamous Din

Interesting. I'll have to ponder this in regard to my own studies.

I'm going to tell you a great mystery Din and I want you to take it to heart.

Find the places where the tribes are listed in the bible from 1 to 12 and ask youself the vital question,'' Why are they given in different orders?''

In Genesis 49 Dan is a serpent who bites at the horses heels to turn the rider backwards so that he falls off his horse and breaks his neck.

This is the function of the tribe of Dan and so in Revelation there is no Dan mentioned because there is no punishment for these peoples.

The tears have been eliminated and there is no sorrow, therefore there is no Dan.

There is no Ephraim listed while Mannessah is listed because there are no more gentiles at this point.

Each tribe has a function and you really will find the tribes listed in different orders and you need to ask yourself, '' WHY''

Why are they listed in different order?

Why is Ephraim mentioned as the first born when Ephraim is not the firstborn?

Then you need to find all the tribes, there is a Jubilee of tribes, 50.

[byzantine catholic]

Originally Posted by jantwenty1981

People don't have to guess about the anti-Christ. If you realize the Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ was written before the Temple was destroyed in 70 AD, then all of the prophecies fall into place easily. God's focus was on restoring all things. His goal was to bring all of Israel back together. He did that by offering salvation to the Gentiles (Ephraim) as well as to the Jews. Ephraim (the multitude of nations/ fullness of the Gentiles) went off and committed idolatry and wasn't listed in the 12 tribes in the Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ, although they had been listed as one of the 12 in the Old Testament. God brought them back after Jesus died and the Gospel was preached to them for 40 years. This was the restoration of all things. Returning to destroy the earth isn't even on God's radar screen. The coming of Jesus Christ was to destroy the elements (principles/laws) not the physical earth. God receives glory when people praise Him, why would He want that to stop?

Caesar Nero was the anti-Christ.

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/re...70AD_Kiser.htm

Yes I disagree. The Anti-Christ is a person who is really Satan coming before the world and preaching that he is God and showing signs and wonders to make people believe. Then at the endtime Jesus will come forth and with a wave of his hand will destroy those who follow him and the Anti-Christ himself.

[Jacob_Rising]

Originally Posted by byzantine catholic

Yes I disagree. The Anti-Christ is a person who is really Satan coming before the world and preaching that he is God and showing signs and wonders to make people believe. Then at the endtime Jesus will come forth and with a wave of his hand will destroy those who follow him and the Anti-Christ himself.

Tell me what Thessalonians says this man to be other than he who goes against the Torah?

The man of sin who does away with the law.