You said it all and correctly so. Progressive tolerance in the form of political correctness will be the downfall of the USA. There were so many red flags in the case of Major Hasan, his mental status was ignored....
Sgt Russel's mental status was not dealt with properly either, and several people here at Liberty ended up murdered, including my friend.
I hope the Army produces better solutions soon, but I still hope these cowards burn for their deeds.
Is it safe to have Muslims in our Military?
Now that we have had yet another murderous attack by a Muslim against his own US Military unit, this legitimate question must be asked.
The Muslims have called our war on two fronts with Iraq and Afghanistan a "Holy War".
What about members of other religions? What about the one soldier that shot and killed his Lieutenant at Ft. Hood last year?
Whatever religion that guy practices... does that mean everyone else that also practices that same religion should be purged from the military?
How many soldier's lives are we willing to sacrifice in the interests of political correctness or cultural sensitivity?
It seems that whenever we try to be culturally sensitive, we simply open up opportunities for the enemy to kill our soldiers.
In a less progressive time than our own, say the late 19th century, I know exactly the sort of strategy we would have used to fight terrorism, the exact same as we used to fight the American Indians. The strategy of seperating them out and putting them on reservations ended the war with the Indians, it wasn't very pretty but it worked.
Now to make amends for our past bigotry, we make open targets of our soldiers today, by forcing them to mingle with potentially dangerous Muslims, and try explaining why we do this to the relatives of the slain.
How long must we stupidly place Muslim Soldiers who may turn on them for whatever religions reasons, in the same foxholes with nonmuslim GIs. We are effectively giving our soldiers the same disadvantages that Muslim armies have.
That does the victims this attack on the soldiers no good. We want to know what we can do to reduce the likelyhood of this happening in the future.
Pretending it didn't happen and going on as before does not help. We need our soldiers to be safe when they are at home and not on the battlefield, unfortunately this appears to require classic segregation of the type that existed during World War II between white and colored troops. The threat from black troops was largely perception rather than real, but then they didn't have the habit of sudden suicidal attacks on their fellow soldiers as Muslims often have a tendency to do.
Do you think that Afghanistan and Iraq wouldn't be such basket cases if their soldiers were more trustworthy? If they for instance obeyed orders through the chain of command rather than edicts from their local Imam?
So.. because one Muslim solider went on a spree, we should segregate the armed forces again?
So.. because one Muslim solider went on a spree, we should segregate the armed forces again?
What it means is our Counterintelligence units need to be giving specially tailored threat SAEDA briefings to our troops, with probably one on one briefings to muslim troops, explaining what to look for, and report, concerning signs that a muslim soldier, or someone associating with a muslim soldier. is falling or has fallen under the influence of those factions within Islam that advocate violent jihad. This is the same thing we used to do with soldiers who had links to communist countries during the cold war.
The only way to detect these guys is to have our own soldiers within the muslim community keeping an eye out for extremist elements.
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What it means is our Counterintelligence units need to be giving specially tailored threat SAEDA briefings to our troops, with probably one on one briefings to muslim troops, explaining what to look for, and report, concerning signs that a muslim soldier, or someone associating with a muslim soldier. is falling or has fallen under the influence of those factions within Islam that advocate violent jihad. This is the same thing we used to do with soldiers who had links to communist countries during the cold war.
The only way to detect these guys is to have our own soldiers within the muslim community keeping an eye out for extremist elements.
First things first: REAL Muslims don't do crap like this -- only the jihad freaks who worship the god of death and destruction instead of the One True God of Life Who has expressly forbidden all such murders.
That is a message which MUST be given to every single human being on the planet: Allah damns such murderers to eternal hell, for they worship Satan, NOT the God of Abraham.
Second, why does the IDF have lots of honest, trustworthy, dedicated Muslim troops -- and what do they do that we're not so that they don't experience such treachery and dishonor? What's the difference? And can we adapt those practices to our own forces?
How do we protect the REAL Muslims in our armed forces from the crap such bastards as this false, lying, dishonest, freaked out psychopath satan worshiper has caused?
REAL Muslims are going to have to identify and report such freaks themselves, that's for sure,
But they're not alone: the REAL Muslims are our Brothers in Arms -- and it's the non-Muslim's job to stand beside them in the fight against the freaked out Death Cults.
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So.. because one Muslim solider went on a spree, we should segregate the armed forces again?
And who the hell said a damned thing about "segregating" -- or in any other way "persecuting" -- Muslims?
Stop hyperventilating and start proposing solutions that help get the freaked out fanatics the shrinks they need to get them out of the death cults -- and solutions that will PROTECT the REAL Muslims who don't do crap like this.
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Be an Equal Opportunity Employer:
Bash and Trash all politicians of all political parties equally -- they're all Power Pigs equally corrupt in their lust for power over We the People.
And who the hell said a damned thing about "segregating" -- or in any other way "persecuting" -- Muslims?
Stop hyperventilating and start proposing solutions that help get the freaked out fanatics the shrinks they need to get them out of the death cults -- and solutions that will PROTECT the REAL Muslims who don't do crap like this.
Tom Kalbfus in this thread, along with the OP musing essentially about whether Muslims should even be allowed in the military by virtue of the thread title.
I agree the hyperventilating should stop. That includes holding off on reaching knee-jerk snap judgments about the shooter being a sleeper who was activated by his handlers as part of a wider jihad before substantiated facts other than the shooter's name are in.
I think this brush is too broad. Everyday Imams do speak out. We've heard them in the news today saying this doesn't represent Islam. There's over a billion Muslims in the world, they don't all look the same, they don't all act the same, they don't all believe the same. Look at the faces of pilgrims at the Hajj. Pakistan, one of the most populous Muslims nations on earth elected a female Prime Minister and was likely to do so again.
Sure there are. If they were speaking out theire would be less terrorist bombings in the middle east and less muslim violence against others around the world.
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