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Old October 13th, 2009, 12:24 pm
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Default 6-year-old sentenced to reform school for "dangerous weapon" on school property





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CBS) A 6-year-old Cub Scout recently suspended from school after bringing a camping utensil to the lunchroom made it clear he was not happy with the Delaware school district's decision.

"I think it's very wrong. It's not fair at all," Zachary Christie of Newark, Del. told CBS' "The Early Show."

"It's not fair for anybody," he said.

Zachary's excitement over joining the Cub Scouts may just land him in reform school for 45 days.

Zachary was suspended from his 1st grade class in Delaware's Christina School District after bringing a camping utensil - a combination knife/fork/spoon - to use at lunch, prompting calls to reexamine schools' zero-tolerance policy for bringing weapons to school.

Asked why he brought it to school, Zachary said he just wanted to eat lunch with the tool. "It's just a cool camping utensil," he said. . . . .

. . . But the strict enforcement of the policy has its supporters.

"There is no parent who wants to get a phone call where they hear that their child no longer has two good seeing eyes because there was a scuffle and someone pulled out a knife," said George Evans, the school district board's president.

There has been a move to give school officials more flexibility in "weapon"-related incidents. After a third-grade girl was expelled for a year after bringing in a knife to cut the birthday cake her grandmother sent in to the class, a new law was passed allowing officials to modify punishments on a case-by-case basis. But that was for expulsions, not suspensions as Zachary is faced with. Another revision to the law is being drafted to address suspensions, according to the report.
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Old October 13th, 2009, 12:48 pm
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As a Cub Scout he should know to read and understand all the rules. I disagree with the rule, but it's in place and he violated it.
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Old October 13th, 2009, 12:50 pm
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Good lord. Absolute stupidity and a corruption of what "no tolerance" is supposed to mean.
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As a Cub Scout he should know to read and understand all the rules. I disagree with the rule, but it's in place and he violated it.
I agree to a point but the no tolerance rule is retarded. If school administrators are so inflexible and desperate to paint themselves into a narrow box then they should not be administrators any longer, especially in a flexible environment like a school.
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As a Cub Scout he should know to read and understand all the rules. I disagree with the rule, but it's in place and he violated it.
Do you remember the little girl a few years (4 or 5, I think) back that accidentally brought her mother's lunch to school? When she noticed the mistake, she brought the paring knife that was ACCIDENTALLY brought to school to the teacher. Trying to do what was right.

She was suspended.

She did NOT violate the rule on purpose. She was an honor student prior to this incident.

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Shanon Borchardt Coslett, 10, thought she was doing the right thing Thursday when she found the knife and immediately reported it to a teacher at Twin Peaks Charter Academy.
These no tolerance, no exception rules are stupid in the least. It makes for lazy thinking. Sort of like using "I was just following orders" as an excuse.
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I don't see how reform school will do anything but harm this kid.

Nor do think the zero tolerance policy requires reform school.


It looks to me like somone (perhaps a judge not affiliated with the district), made a judgement call and decided suspension was not enough.
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This rule sounds a little stupid - But, I think rule was made to protect the students. That being the rule, why would any student bring a knife to school?

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As a Cub Scout he should know to read and understand all the rules. I disagree with the rule, but it's in place and he violated it.
He's 6 yrs old.......

He didn't see that as a knife, but as an eating utensil.
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Do you remember the little girl a few years (4 or 5, I think) back that accidentally brought her mother's lunch to school? When she noticed the mistake, she brought the paring knife that was ACCIDENTALLY brought to school to the teacher. Trying to do what was right.

She was suspended.

She did NOT violate the rule on purpose. She was an honor student prior to this incident.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-67599380.html



These no tolerance, no exception rules are stupid in the least. It makes for lazy thinking. Sort of like using "I was just following orders" as an excuse.

My wife's a school administrator. If a student turned themselves in for something like the mother's paring knife above, the only thing my wife would do is take the knife, and put it in her desk drawer, call the parent, and have the parent pick up the knife. Now, if another child turned her in, it would have been a different issue.

In terms of the scout knife, a boy scout (middle school aged) came up to her and turned in the scout knife he had in his jacket pocket. He had worn the same jacket on the weekend campout, and had forgotten it was there. He got in no trouble (unless his parents punished him for having to run by school to pick up his scout knife). Common sense is how it should be done.
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I am not to alarmed by a zero tolerance policy that requires the kid be suspended.

but reform school? C'mon.
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