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    So apparently career officials working in this office are responsible for this mess?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smyrna View Post
    Let's ignore the political collusion being exposed right now between the DOJ, the FBI, the CIA, the NSA that appears may have a road to the WH and discuss all the turmoil that can be mustered about a staffer who hit his wife over a decade ago? Shall "we"?
    Yeah, let's just overlook the fact that someone who should have never had access to classified data had access for months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkyS View Post
    Sorry, but that is the process.

    The FBI HAS NOT refuted that they gave this stuff to the WHPSO. Know why? THEY CAN'T. That is exactly the process.

    What you "gather" isn't pertinent. The WHPSO isn't even supposed to talk about people under investigation so if Don McGahn got anything it was likely from Porter who said that he was in a dispute over facts with his wife - TRUE. But what proof his wife had or didn't have would have to have been stated to McGahn by Porter and Porter still denies the allegations.

    As to the length of time involved the FBI also DO NOT dispute that they were involved still this January - last month - so whether or not it was taking a long time is immaterial. The WH staff were STILL not in the loop in January and Wray doesn't dispute that. All the WH staff knew was that it was taking a long time.

    Until the news broke the WH senior staff had only heard from Porter on the subject - not from Wray and not yet from the WHPSO. That is exclty what Kelly said DAYS ago.



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    How dare you take a reasonable and sensible approach to this story.

    That kind of attitude could completely spoil a good left wing rant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wonderingrover View Post
    Yeah, let's just overlook the fact that someone who should have never had access to classified data had access for months.
    Are you referring to conducting highly classified government business on unprotected devices while operating in hostile, enemy territory, where it's been determined it was probably hacked, exposing those working under cover to grave danger, possibly costing them their lives and yet still had access? Yeah....that is upsetting. I hope that individual gets a fair trial though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkyS View Post
    Sorry, but that is the process.
    No, it's not. I posted documentation yesterday that there is a fast track program (SPIN ? ) where the FBI's goal is to have background checks wrapped up in 45 days, which was used for Porter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smyrna View Post
    Are you referring to conducting highly classified government business on unprotected devices while operating in hostile, enemy territory, where it's been determined it was probably hacked, exposing those working under cover to grave danger, possibly costing them their lives and yet still had access? Yeah....that is upsetting. I hope that individual gets a fair trial though.
    Yes, let's hold one administration responsible for mishandling classified data while totally ignoring another administration allowing classified data to be mishandled. That's perfectly appropriate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wonderingrover View Post
    Yes, let's hold one administration responsible for mishandling classified data while totally ignoring another administration allowing classified data to be mishandled. That's perfectly appropriate.
    How does a history of domestic abuse equate to mishandling classified data?
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    Remember way far back in 2016 when Republicans were worried about the mishandling of classified information?

    It turns out republicans are worse.

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    Per Trey Gowdy, the oversight committee has now opened an investigation into the hiring/firing of Rob Porter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodeo View Post
    How dare you take a reasonable and sensible approach to this story.

    That kind of attitude could completely spoil a good left wing rant.
    There's being reasonable, sensible and skeptical, and there's doing what Marky is doing.

    The WH has been caught lying on the subject of Rob Porter multiple times now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebraska Football View Post
    A man who had access to every single top secret document in our government was kept in place for over a year, being looked at for possible promotion, and was wide open to being blackmailed by any one of our nation’s greatest threats. Yep, move along, nothing to see here.

    I’m sure you would have treated the same scenario in an Obama administration the same way Doug. Big nothing-burger, right?
    How was he open to blackmail? From what I can see he admitted the allegations had been made, not a secret, no potential blackmail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebraska Football View Post
    A man who had access to every single top secret document in our government was kept in place for over a year, being looked at for possible promotion, and was wide open to being blackmailed by any one of our nationís greatest threats. Yep, move along, nothing to see here.

    Iím sure you would have treated the same scenario in an Obama administration the same way Doug. Big nothing-burger, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zantax View Post
    How was he open to blackmail? From what I can see he admitted the allegations had been made, not a secret, no potential blackmail.
    I believe he was telling WH officials that the allegations were purely verbal in nature, not of any physical abuse.

    Though he would have had to disclose the protective order his wife filed against him on his initial security application, assuming he didn't lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zantax View Post
    How was he open to blackmail? From what I can see he admitted the allegations had been made, not a secret, no potential blackmail.
    When the information went public he was out of his job within an hour (supposedly).

    Iíd say thatís proof enough that he was open to blackmail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dantes View Post
    When the information went public he was out of his job within an hour (supposedly).

    I’d say that’s proof enough that he was open to blackmail.
    Nonsense, his employer was aware of the allegations, it wasn't a secret. If you want to assert that the photo left him open to blackmail because the White House and the public was unaware of that item, you have to admit, the White House can't be held responsible for something they didn't know about. Without the photo he'd most likely still have his job. Or you can claim they were aware of the photo, which precludes blackmail. It's a real stretch to say anyone that has something in the past their employer is aware of is a source of potential blackmail because it may blow up into a news story and result in their firing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoleUK View Post
    Per Trey Gowdy, the oversight committee has now opened an investigation into the hiring/firing of Rob Porter.
    From Gowdy, again.

    "I would want to know from Don McGahn and Gen. Kelly and anyone else what did you know, from whom did you hear it, to what extent did you hear it and what actions, if any, did you take. The chronology is not favorable from the White House."
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