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    So apparently career officials working in this office are responsible for this mess?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saul Goodman View Post
    Oh hey, Kushner, the guy who's supposedly running like half of the government right now. Turns out that since he's been in the White House, he's racked up millions of dollars of additional debt.



    http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...ng-white-house

    Soo hmmm....Trump's son in law and his most important advisor next to Steve Doocy can't get a security clearance, almost definitely under a criminal investigation, family business is collapsing (need to make a billion dollar payment in this month that Kushner Cos. won't be able to make) has met with the head of a Kremlin connected bank amid conflicting stories between the bank and the White House (bank says it was real estate business, Trump WH says "diplomacy", with a bank under US sanction), regularly reads classified info without a security clearance, and has now taken on a significant amount of new debt, the number one red flag in security clearance issues.

    Not to mention the whole Kushner Krime Family thing and where he learned to play at business, his Dad and Donald Trump. I think the whole thing is probably an overleveraged mess that could come down at any time, and thats just from the Trump/Kushner business angle, not the very real legal jeopardy they're all facing.
    [FONT="]An update to Ivanka Trump’s financial disclosure report reveals that she and her husband, Jared Kushner, have taken on millions of dollars in additional debt over the past year, Politico reported Tuesday.[/FONT]
    [FONT="]Trump’s updated disclosure form shows that Kushner appears to have tapped three different lines of credit since he began working at the White House.[/FONT]
    [FONT="]The changes up the couple’s debts from a range of $19 million to $98 million to being valued at between $31 million and $155 million, according to Politico.[/FONT]
    [FONT="]Trump had initially reported the debts to be at the same levels Kushner had reported in March, but revised the form in December to show higher levels on the three credit lines.[/FONT]
    [FONT="]The three lines of credit added to the form are held by Kushner. He holds the Bank of America and New York Community Bank lines with his father, and one from Signature Bank with his mother.[/FONT]
    [FONT="]Another revision on Trump's form did drop the amount owed for a Visa account from a range of $100,001 to $250,000 to one of $50,001 to $100,000.[/FONT]
    It’s unclear if the raised credit lines are linked to recent financial issues at Kushner’s family business, Kushner Companies.
    is that the 666 avenue skyscraper building deal?

    TBD

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    Quote Originally Posted by mobiusptc View Post
    is that the 666 avenue skyscraper building deal?
    Yeah. Looks like Kushner Cos will lose control of that property.

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    This administration is a complete and utter cluster ****. Every day, I laugh at these idiots who still blindly support the orange piece of slime and his band of merry idiots...unbelievable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saul Goodman View Post
    Oh hey, Kushner, the guy who's supposedly running like half of the government right now. Turns out that since he's been in the White House, he's racked up millions of dollars of additional debt.



    http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...ng-white-house

    Soo hmmm....Trump's son in law and his most important advisor next to Steve Doocy can't get a security clearance, almost definitely under a criminal investigation, family business is collapsing (need to make a billion dollar payment in this month that Kushner Cos. won't be able to make) has met with the head of a Kremlin connected bank amid conflicting stories between the bank and the White House (bank says it was real estate business, Trump WH says "diplomacy", with a bank under US sanction), regularly reads classified info without a security clearance, and has now taken on a significant amount of new debt, the number one red flag in security clearance issues.

    Not to mention the whole Kushner Krime Family thing and where he learned to play at business, his Dad and Donald Trump. I think the whole thing is probably an overleveraged mess that could come down at any time, and thats just from the Trump/Kushner business angle, not the very real legal jeopardy they're all facing.
    An update to Ivanka Trumpís financial disclosure report reveals that she and her husband, Jared Kushner, have taken on millions of dollars in additional debt over the past year, Politico reported Tuesday.
    Trumpís updated disclosure form shows that Kushner appears to have tapped three different lines of credit since he began working at the White House.
    The changes up the coupleís debts from a range of $19 million to $98 million to being valued at between $31 million and $155 million, according to Politico.
    Trump had initially reported the debts to be at the same levels Kushner had reported in March, but revised the form in December to show higher levels on the three credit lines.
    The three lines of credit added to the form are held by Kushner. He holds the Bank of America and New York Community Bank lines with his father, and one from Signature Bank with his mother.
    Another revision on Trump's form did drop the amount owed for a Visa account from a range of $100,001 to $250,000 to one of $50,001 to $100,000.
    Itís unclear if the raised credit lines are linked to recent financial issues at Kushnerís family business, Kushner Companies.
    Unbelievable. Why isn't hannity squawking about this crap every day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mobiusptc View Post
    you forgot:
    -knew about it for months
    - Yes, knew about it for months in the WH Personell Security Office - NOT the Trump staff.

    -fired him only when pictures came out
    - Accepted his resignation when the senior staff - the Trump people in the WH - found out about it in the press.

    -cannot keep their story straight whether its the reason or timeline of how he got fired
    - Have only ever said the same thing: Porter resigned WHILE he was still being investigated.

    -was in talks about being promoted to dept chief of staff while they knew he could not hold a clearence
    They knew no such thing. They were STILL waiting for the WHPSO to give them a recommendation, one way or another. In fact the WHPSO is not supposed to talk about people BEFORE they make their recommendation.

    -dozens more in the white house still have not had full clearance, still interim after a year including kushner
    Not unusual for an administration filled with people who never worked in Washington before. The paper on file for them is ZERO at the start.

    In Kushner's case he has EXTENSIVE overseas travel to add to the complication in checking him out as well as highly-detailed business dealings that are complex and intertwined.

    The the security-clearance process in the federal government had a backlog of some 700,000 cases as of September of 2017 so FAST and SIMPLE it is not.



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    Quote Originally Posted by markdido View Post
    Could you be a little more vague?
    This should help:


    http://forums.hannity.com/showthread...#post105985431




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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkyS View Post
    - Yes, knew about it for months in the WH Personell Security Office - NOT the Trump staff.


    - Accepted his resignation when the senior staff - the Trump people in the WH - found out about it in the press.



    - Have only ever said the same thing: Porter resigned WHILE he was still being investigated.



    They knew no such thing. They were STILL waiting for the WHPSO to give them a recommendation, one way or another. In fact the WHPSO is not supposed to talk about people BEFORE they make their recommendation.



    Not unusual for an administration filled with people who never worked in Washington before. The paper on file for them is ZERO at the start.

    In Kushner's case he has EXTENSIVE overseas travel to add to the complication in checking him out as well as highly-detailed business dealings that are complex and intertwined.

    The the security-clearance process in the federal government had a backlog of some 700,000 cases as of September of 2017 so FAST and SIMPLE it is not.



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    The WH has been lying their ass off about this for a week now and keep getting caught. From what I gather Don McGahn was contacted about this three times in 2017 starting in January. The whole WHPSO story is a dodge and will be proven so. And former WH staff have said that WH senior staff are given high priority be the FBI, so the over a year story is another lie. It sure is fun watching these rank amateurs constinly fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Wazoo View Post
    The WH has been lying their ass off about this for a week now and keep getting caught. From what I gather Don McGahn was contacted about this three times in 2017 starting in January. The whole WHPSO story is a dodge and will be proven so. And former WH staff have said that WH senior staff are given high priority be the FBI, so the over a year story is another lie. It sure is fun watching these rank amateurs constinly fail.
    Sorry, but that is the process.

    The FBI HAS NOT refuted that they gave this stuff to the WHPSO. Know why? THEY CAN'T. That is exactly the process.

    What you "gather" isn't pertinent. The WHPSO isn't even supposed to talk about people under investigation so if Don McGahn got anything it was likely from Porter who said that he was in a dispute over facts with his wife - TRUE. But what proof his wife had or didn't have would have to have been stated to McGahn by Porter and Porter still denies the allegations.

    As to the length of time involved the FBI also DO NOT dispute that they were involved still this January - last month - so whether or not it was taking a long time is immaterial. The WH staff were STILL not in the loop in January and Wray doesn't dispute that. All the WH staff knew was that it was taking a long time.

    Until the news broke the WH senior staff had only heard from Porter on the subject - not from Wray and not yet from the WHPSO. That is exclty what Kelly said DAYS ago.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mobiusptc View Post
    you forgot:
    -knew about it for months
    -fired him only when pictures came out
    -cannot keep their story straight whether its the reason or timeline of how he got fired
    -was in talks about being promoted to dept chief of staff while they knew he could not hold a clearence
    -dozens more in the white house still have not had full clearance, still interim after a year including kushner
    It's just not true he couldn't get a clearance, Trump can clear whoever he likes.
    Self appointed forum Mark Zuckerberg, feel free to ask me if any news story is real or fake.

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    Let's ignore the political collusion being exposed right now between the DOJ, the FBI, the CIA, the NSA that appears may have a road to the WH and discuss all the turmoil that can be mustered about a staffer who hit his wife over a decade ago? Shall "we"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DougBH View Post
    So, the WH hired someone onto their staff who had to be removed because he could not get a clearance. The damage was non existent. And all the media and Democrats are in spasms. Is that about the whole thing?
    How bout the esteemed Jared Kushner, who is also working on a temp security clearance due to what shady real estate transactions or something else.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougBH View Post
    So, the WH hired someone onto their staff who had to be removed because he could not get a clearance. The damage was non existent. And all the media and Democrats are in spasms. Is that about the whole thing?
    A man who had access to every single top secret document in our government was kept in place for over a year, being looked at for possible promotion, and was wide open to being blackmailed by any one of our nationís greatest threats. Yep, move along, nothing to see here.

    Iím sure you would have treated the same scenario in an Obama administration the same way Doug. Big nothing-burger, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saul Goodman View Post
    Yeah. Looks like Kushner Cos will lose control of that property.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/new-...me=companyNews

    Vornado is looking to get out this year from the property. This thing is going down and likely to bring the Kushner family with it. 2018 is not going to be a good year for Jared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebraska Football View Post
    https://www.reuters.com/article/new-...me=companyNews

    Vornado is looking to get out this year from the property. This thing is going down and likely to bring the Kushner family with it. 2018 is not going to be a good year for Jared.
    At the end of the article: also got a mortgage due in Feb 2019, $1.2B.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DougBH View Post
    So, the WH hired someone onto their staff who had to be removed because he could not get a clearance. The damage was non existent. And all the media and Democrats are in spasms. Is that about the whole thing?
    I seem to recall a hell of a lot of uproar (rightfully so) over Hillary's mishandling of classified data. This is no less a problem.
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