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    Default The truth is a lot of these countries are what trump described them

    In libya right now there is a massive slave trade going on. Sold by arab africans by arab africans. isis is running wild in libya, poeple are being tortured and murdered the economy is in shambles. How would you exactly describe this country.

    This is haiti. Haitians are hard working people. They have been devastated by hurricanes and earthquakes. But the fact is the reason millions of haitians are desp trying to leave the island and the reason why liberals dont want to send haitians back is because ITS A **** HOLE COUNTRY.

    In pakistan where i lived for a time. Women are honor killed for refusing to marry men they are not in love with. Tribal elders order rapes of women who disaboy the tribe. The taliban is powerful in pakistan. poeple AND animals literally **** on the streets in pakistan. its a filthy country.

    I understand for liberals live in a world where there is 68 genders and not dating a trans women means your a bigot but the fact is. in a lot of these 3rd world countries the governments and the country are hell holes. Its not reflective of the entire population but poeple are running away from iraq or syria because its a utopia. the difference between trump and the rest of these idiots is that trump sais publicly what they think and say privately.

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    clarification ,

    first PART - I believe those countries are ****hole countries (libya, pakistan, iran, haiti) this part i believe is true and think we can all agree with trump weere just not at open about.
    SECOND part - Just because they are ****hole countries NOT MEAN THEY SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO COME HERE. its one thing to say the first, its a another to say the second. IF trump said they should not come here cause there blacks from a ****hole country and there race as the basis of the reason why they should or should not be allowed. THAT IS A RACIST POINT OF VIEW and i dont accept it.
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    Democrats love ****holes. They turn every city they run into one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roxiebell View Post
    Those that are supposedly outraged at what Trump said are the same ilk that don't have a problem with the Clintons taking 13 BILLION $$ raised for Haiti, mostly by Americans, for their own foundation, they literally stole that $$$ from the Haitians.
    It certainly wasn't a ****hole for the Clinton's. Quite the cash cow.

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    Much appreciated.
    Not so much for you but the original. **** happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fava View Post
    Democrats love ****holes. They turn every city they run into one.
    I have always wondered about that. Your explanation makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sewell View Post
    That search gave 27,800,000 results. I am hopeful that you will keep digging.
    Almost 28 million Trump hating liberal web sites. Imagine that!

    It's possible, but unlikely. I've traveled too much for that. But I'm hopeful that you can turn it around.
    Well, good luck to you. I hope you fair better than Dorthyís pal the scarecrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dianeinwa View Post
    It certainly wasn't a ****hole for the Clinton's. Quite the cash cow.
    The cash didnít come out of Haiti, it just didnít go into Haiti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samm View Post
    Almost 28 million Trump hating liberal web sites. Imagine that!



    Well, good luck to you. I hope you fair better than Dorthyís pal the scarecrow.
    And best of luck to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsjoanne View Post
    You and other Trump supporters who are using this argument are missing the point. No reasonable person would argue that Lybia, Pakistan, Syria, and Haiti, for example, are great places to live. But Trump wasn't talking about that. It was about which countries immigrants should be the most and least welcomed here.

    Remember he said those things while he and members of Congress were discussing immigration policy.

    This is the same guy who was sued for racial discrimination, claimed a judge couldn't issue a fair ruling because he was Mexican (the judge was born in America), and he deflected time after time when asked to condemn David Duke.

    Then of course there was the infamous "very fine people on both sides" after Charlottesville.

    Besides, you weren't born in America either, but are a naturalized citizen. It shouldn't be hard for you to understand Trump's remarks were reprehensible.
    i agree that poeple from countries that are considered 3rd world should be allowed to come here. i was just making the point regarding the liberal outrage that **** hole countries exists. it seems that if you call a country like pakistan a **** hole that triggers liberals. if you noticed i added a edited to my OP explaining my 2 different points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samm View Post
    You didnít, but Google did. None of the websites that came up on the search you suggested were what any honest person would consider to be a neutral sites. If you can point me to a neutral web site that calls Trump a racist, I will consider it.



    Then perhaps you should consider becoming a conservative in your old age. Remember what Churchill said about that.
    Not sure there is such a thing as a neutral web site any more these days Sam. It's either liberal, extremely liberal, conservative or alt right.

    CNN, which touts itself as some sort of neutral "news" channel, had one of their anchors (Chris Cuomo) use a white board to write that Trump himself is a **** hole. Don Lemon opened his program by saying "The President of the United States is a racist".

    Then there is the Trump cheerleading on Fox.

    So neutral news sources seem to have gone the way of the dinosaur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacarlo View Post
    europe suffers the predictable effect of that Insane immigration policy.
    Don't European countries have a different, with less stigma attached, welfare system than the U S?

    And in some of those countries, aren't unions more likely to be willing to work with and train those they know--native born?

    Generous maternity leave & it not being easy to fire even the most incompetent worker can't make it any easier for the new immigrants to get off the dole once on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gattaca View Post
    i agree that poeple from countries that are considered 3rd world should be allowed to come here. i was just making the point regarding the liberal outrage that **** hole countries exists. it seems that if you call a country like pakistan a **** hole that triggers liberals. if you noticed i added a edited to my OP explaining my 2 different points.
    Do you wish you hadnít been allowed tthere come here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samm View Post
    I donít. India is a diverse country, part first world and part **** hole. In other words, India can produce immigrants who can be a considerable benefit to this country and immigrants that would be a considerable burden. The true **** hole countries have very little potential to provide the former.
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    Trump isn't wrong about immigrants coming from ....hole countries.
    Nobody has yet to explain to me why we have to import haji "children" who are 20 yo with lean builds and Puma track clothes or illiterate, uninoculated "Mexicans" who will game the system and funnel money back to "Mexico", but bringing over Scandinavian nuclear engineers or English doctors is a no-no.
    The DACA crap and the forthcoming capitulation irks me.
    I was buddies with a chap who was born in Rhodesia. Suuuuper smart guy who had multiple degrees and a little money and fought to stay in this country only to be denied. Tried to join the military. Denied.
    We all wrote letters for him. Waste of ink. Denied. He had a job at a power plant lined up but....denied.
    He had too much pride to get into a sham marriage.
    And now we have to bargain with our security for......reasons.
    I cant help it if folks wanted to pop a squat and **** a kid on US Soil.
    I'm not against constructive immigration. I remember when folks worked for their green card and were flag wavers and wanted to be American.
    **Now I have to press 1 for English and all I see are entitled people not paying their share but demanding I pay mine.**
    **If they are so great and awesome; why cant they fix their own ****hole countries?**
    **All I know is that it is refreshing to have a sitting president actually say what most people have long been thinking. The meltdowns are glorious.**
    **Why do we gotta be the homeless shelter of the world? I got my own problems.**
    Just copy our Constitution, stop fighting over drugs and religion, start dressing like normal people and open a ******* book aside from Das Kapital or the Quran and get a life.
    PRESTO, you wont 'need' to migrate no more and the rest of us will be all the better for it.
    Enough time has gone by that native Americans are a real thing. You may not be of indigenous First Peoples descent but its been a couple of centuries. You're American. No hyphen required.
    Why should we forego our distinctly American culture because of people wanting to smuggle in cousins they are practically strangers to?
    If we removed some of the Socialist Labor laws, Affirmative Action, minimum wage, Obamacare (which will never truly die),and tax burdens; we have people already here who could pick fruit and work construction without picking up God knows who from God knows where at a 7-11 parking lot to work under the table.
    There are people who want jobs and people who just want a paycheck, and not all are one in the same.
    There was a time when Company Stores were a thing and people knew they had a future with a company and even if they branched off it was seen as a step-stone and not as outright competition and there was more cooperation and franchising.
    Now most American Industry is
    essentially treated like Junior's first summer job with an expectation of turnover, fewer opportunities, and a "last guy to quit, please turn off the lights" mentality
    Honestly....I'm kinda sick of seeing "made in china" on the stuff I buy but the options are limited.
    I dont like my dollar going to a Communist power that babies up North Korea.
    But if someone tries to say America First they get shouted down because we should all feel guilty because......
    ....well nobody's given me a straight answer aside from "muh racism" and pointing to their Che t shirt.
    Or the Nazi spiel. I doubt actual, hardcore Totenkopf SS got called Nazis as much as moderate, maybe center Rightish people with strong Libertarian and Constitutionalist streaks do.
    The word 'racism' is losing its power. One day it'll get to a point where people will just go "So what?" when called a racist.
    Like the word MF. It has no power or weight anymore. You can even say it a few times in a PG 13 now.
    Used to you had to literally burn crosses to be considered racist.
    Now simply not kissing some rando dudes ass is "racist".

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    Quote Originally Posted by fava View Post
    Democrats love ****holes. They turn every city they run into one.
    That's the truth!

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    Hmmm....Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, LA, Chicago and New York pay for a lot of the services for y'all in rural Alabama and Mississippi. Maybe those "****holes" should turn off the money tap.

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