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    Default The truth is a lot of these countries are what trump described them

    In libya right now there is a massive slave trade going on. Sold by arab africans by arab africans. isis is running wild in libya, poeple are being tortured and murdered the economy is in shambles. How would you exactly describe this country.

    This is haiti. Haitians are hard working people. They have been devastated by hurricanes and earthquakes. But the fact is the reason millions of haitians are desp trying to leave the island and the reason why liberals dont want to send haitians back is because ITS A **** HOLE COUNTRY.

    In pakistan where i lived for a time. Women are honor killed for refusing to marry men they are not in love with. Tribal elders order rapes of women who disaboy the tribe. The taliban is powerful in pakistan. poeple AND animals literally **** on the streets in pakistan. its a filthy country.

    I understand for liberals live in a world where there is 68 genders and not dating a trans women means your a bigot but the fact is. in a lot of these 3rd world countries the governments and the country are hell holes. Its not reflective of the entire population but poeple are running away from iraq or syria because its a utopia. the difference between trump and the rest of these idiots is that trump sais publicly what they think and say privately.

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    clarification ,

    first PART - I believe those countries are ****hole countries (libya, pakistan, iran, haiti) this part i believe is true and think we can all agree with trump weere just not at open about.
    SECOND part - Just because they are ****hole countries NOT MEAN THEY SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO COME HERE. its one thing to say the first, its a another to say the second. IF trump said they should not come here cause there blacks from a ****hole country and there race as the basis of the reason why they should or should not be allowed. THAT IS A RACIST POINT OF VIEW and i dont accept it.
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    went to heaven.. couldnt get in.. for what i had done.. i said forsake me.. they said your crazy.. youve done to much harm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sewell View Post
    Close your eyes and click at random. You'll reject them all anyway.
    Then why did you suggest it in the first place?

    "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep." - Saul Bellow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samm View Post
    Yoy are right, nationality is not the issue. The issue is whether the immigrant can contribute to the betterment of the country they are emigrating to. The chances are high, that people coming from **** hole countries won’t be anything but a burden on the US, or Canada.
    Yes, but aren't we so very virtuous for doing it anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reflechissez View Post
    Not sure what this has to do with anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dianeinwa View Post
    Heck when all the liberal elites promised to leave the country if Trump won, not one of them said they were going to one of the poop hole nations. Nope they said UK, Norway, Canada. Bunch of racists.
    Excellent point! Not a one of them said a word about Haiti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianJudo View Post
    They should be charged and sentence.
    murder is a crime.

    how is that any different then a christian parent killing their son because he is homosexual.
    Which didn't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggestal99 View Post
    Having lots of good working immigrants is in the best interest of America.

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    Not if they are also collecting welfare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianJudo View Post
    again my issue with his comment isn't calling those countries ****holes.
    my comment is how he phrased it

    he said "Why are we letting people in from these ****hole countries"
    like being born in one of those countries determine ones merit someone born in Africa is no less valuable or gifted as someone born in Poland.
    each immigrant should be valued on their own merit.

    what Trump is suggesting is someone people are inherently less worthy of citizenship and opportunity because of the soil they are born on.
    that is pure bigotry.
    what wrong with valuing each immigrant by his or works instead of what country they are from.

    the president is clearly wrong on this.

    who cares if they are from Haiti, Norway, Mexico or somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle Keeper View Post
    Not if they are also collecting welfare.
    lol. And how many Haitian immigrants are on welfare by percentage, please.

    the ones who I know are hard working productive people. Working and buying stuff in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggestal99 View Post
    lol. And how many Haitian immigrants are on welfare by percentage, please.

    the ones who I know are hard working productive people. Working and buying stuff in America.

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    https://cis.org/Fact-Sheet/Fact-Shee...-United-States

    Of households headed by Haitian immigrants 46 percent use at least one major welfare program. For households headed by native-born Americans it is 20 percent.


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    Quote Originally Posted by biggestal99 View Post
    lol. And how many Haitian immigrants are on welfare by percentage, please.

    the ones who I know are hard working productive people. Working and buying stuff in America.

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    You misunderstood my point. I was not making any specific claim about any specific immigrant group. The point I was making is simple economics if we were talking about a person who is receiving welfare. Is not a person receiving welfare an economic burden on others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggestal99 View Post
    what wrong with valuing each immigrant by his or works instead of what country they are from.

    the president is clearly wrong on this.

    who cares if they are from Haiti, Norway, Mexico or somewhere else.

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    How are you goung to judge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggestal99 View Post
    lol. And how many Haitian immigrants are on welfare by percentage, please.

    the ones who I know are hard working productive people. Working and buying stuff in America.

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    46%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneaky SF Dude View Post
    How are you goung to judge?
    how about having a job and contributing to the economy.

    you know that Haitian immigrants. Work at mar a lago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneaky SF Dude View Post
    46%
    lol not even close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle Keeper View Post
    You misunderstood my point. I was not making any specific claim about any specific immigrant group. The point I was making is simple economics if we were talking about a person who is receiving welfare. Is not a person receiving welfare an economic burden on others?
    Well the president was. He doesn’t want people from Haiti. He made that perfectly clear.

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