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    Default Al Franken should NOT resign. I hate hypocrisy i don't care who is doing it

    It seems as if al franken gets a little touchy touchy with pictures. I hate him. i hate hes politics. i think hes a rabid liberal. but he should not resign. Not as long as conyers, moore, trump and any other politician accused of sexual misconduct resigns.

    First i believe unless a criminal doing was done it should be up to the voters to decide if the candidate wants to stay. being immoral has never stopped a politician from running before so why start now? unless franken did something criminal. Why should he be forced to resign but moore win a senate seat? Why does trump get to stay? heck i think more women accused trump of sexual misconduct then they have al franken. so the president gets to stay? but someone below him has to go?

    Franken should stay and tell liberals and consv to **** off. If the voters hate hes conduct so much they can vote him out of office. i would be pissed as hell if i had to resign for something the president of the united states gets to stay for.

    BTW menedez from NJ did things ten times worse then franken and no one asked him to resign.
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    Of course you don't want Franken to resign, because if he does, Moore's election will be used extensively in 2018 to flip the House, and maybe even the Senate.

    But c'mon? Its OK to be immoral as long as you are not criminal? Let me try that at work tomorrow. On 2nd thought, no thanks.

    If I can get fired for sexual harassment, so can elected officials.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FlameHeart View Post
    There's direct evidence of him touching a woman inappropriately while she is sleeping. For Moore et al., we still don't know yet if it's true, because there is a lack of evidence.
    What about the Moore Washington Post story do you not find credible?

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    There's direct evidence of him touching a woman inappropriately while she is sleeping. For Moore et al., we still don't know yet if it's true, because there is a lack of evidence.

    Now, I'm not for victim-blaming. I've been a victim myself. And while it seems uncanny to ask the victim to provide 100 pages of evidence, but believe a potential perpetrator when they simply say "I didn't do it," I do believe people are innocent until proven guilty.

    Since there is enough evidence to prove that Al Franken did act sexually inappropriate, I do think he should resign. Just my thoughts.
    "Ignis aurum probat"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airyaman View Post
    Of course you don't want Franken to resign, because if he does, Moore's election will be used extensively in 2018 to flip the House, and maybe even the Senate.

    But c'mon? Its OK to be immoral as long as you are not criminal? Let me try that at work tomorrow. On 2nd thought, no thanks.

    If I can get fired for sexual harassment, so can elected officials.
    I'm not sure if that is likely. People are tired. Tired of the same old, same old politics. They want change, positive change, a change for liberty. There is the silent majority. People aren't going to want to elect someone who keeps running on the same principle but never following through with them. And that's most of the Democrats. Except for the principle, stop Trump in every way possible. That was established by the Democratic voter base. All the others are based around Democrat politicians keeping their jobs in D.C. Or, most of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlameHeart View Post
    I'm not sure if that is likely. People are tired. Tired of the same old, same old politics. They want change, positive change, a change for liberty. There is the silent majority. People aren't going to want to elect someone who keeps running on the same principle but never following through with them. And that's most of the Democrats. Except for the principle, stop Trump in every way possible. That was established by the Democratic voter base. All the others are based around Democrat politicians keeping their jobs in D.C. Or, most of them.
    Not even close. When it comes to "who has to resign", it's always Democrats because of their constituencies and the organizations they belong to. That applies at the consumer level as well. People like Trump and Moore have constituencies and overlapping consumer bases that if they had two ****s wouldn't give 'em . They simply don't care, it doesn't really bother them, so people like Trump and Moore can safely ride it out.

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    If you are calling for Franken to resign but are voting for Moore, Ivanka has stated you will burn in a Christain fairy tale hell, so what's it matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sknyluv View Post
    What about the Moore Washington Post story do you not find credible?
    Washington post has been known to blow things out of proportion- although they got Nixon. But since then, they've been a parrot for politicians in D.C. (no offense). I'm going to cross-check news sources before I believe it as fact. (again, no offense.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlameHeart View Post
    I'm not sure if that is likely. People are tired. Tired of the same old, same old politics. They want change, positive change, a change for liberty. There is the silent majority. People aren't going to want to elect someone who keeps running on the same principle but never following through with them. And that's most of the Democrats. Except for the principle, stop Trump in every way possible. That was established by the Democratic voter base. All the others are based around Democrat politicians keeping their jobs in D.C. Or, most of them.
    We won't be getting liberty from Moore, a guy who believes Muslims cannot run for office and gays should be in prison.

    He's the worst example of a big government authoritarian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlameHeart View Post
    True, you have a good point. But his opponent is even worse. Right now the race in Alabama is a big dumpster fire. That smells. Horribly.
    It's pretty awful how Doug Jones put away those Klan murderers and had their liberty taken away.

    Seriously, you're equivocating between Doug Jones and Roy Moore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlameHeart View Post
    There's direct evidence of him touching a woman inappropriately while she is sleeping. For Moore et al., we still don't know yet if it's true, because there is a lack of evidence.

    Now, I'm not for victim-blaming. I've been a victim myself. And while it seems uncanny to ask the victim to provide 100 pages of evidence, but believe a potential perpetrator when they simply say "I didn't do it," I do believe people are innocent until proven guilty.

    Since there is enough evidence to prove that Al Franken did act sexually inappropriate, I do think he should resign. Just my thoughts.
    Which part of Moore do you like? The locking up gays part? The getting kicked off the bench part? The forbidding certain religions from running part? The multiple women who said he cased them as young girls part? Or the "Republican" party?

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsjoanne View Post
    We won't be getting liberty from Moore, a guy who believes Muslims cannot run for office and gays should be in prison.

    He's the worst example of a big government authoritarian.
    True, you have a good point. But his opponent is even worse. Right now the race in Alabama is a big dumpster fire. That smells. Horribly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsjoanne View Post
    We won't be getting liberty from Moore, a guy who believes Muslims cannot run for office and gays should be in prison.

    He's the worst example of a big government authoritarian.
    I just re-read that and it makes me sound like a Trumpster. I still dislike him as much as when I joined. I hate how he campaigned, how his base seemed to just magically appear when he said "build a wall." Trump isn't the most moral human being, or the most libertarian, as well as some of his followers, but he's a helluva lot better than the Democrats, who keep suggesting that we fix the problems the government has caused with more government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlameHeart View Post
    True, you have a good point. But his opponent is even worse. Right now the race in Alabama is a big dumpster fire. That smells. Horribly.
    Actually, his opponent isn't that bad. Ask some posters here from Alabama that have known of him from way back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlameHeart View Post
    I don't like him. All I'm saying is that people are innocent until proven guilty.
    Hillary?

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