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    WASHINGTON—Sen. Bernie Sanders will introduce legislation on Wednesday that would expand Medicare into a universal health insurance program with the backing of at least 15 Democratic senators — a record level of support for an idea that had been relegated to the fringes during the last Democratic presidency.

    Sanders acknowledged that the plan would be costly but pointed to the experience of other industrialized countries that provided universal coverage through higher taxes. The average American paid $11,365 (U.S.) per year in taxes; the average Canadian paid $14,693. But the average American paid twice as much for health care as the average Canadian.

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    Employers who provide health insurance would most likely see savings. Every working person could pay in through payroll taxes. I think all that will be covered is a little ambitious. You could make other cuts to programs for healthcare for the poor as all would have insurance.
    Proverbs 30:8Remove untruth and lies far from me.
    Give me neither poverty nor riches.
    Just let me consume my portion of food

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    Quote Originally Posted by texashusker34 View Post
    Of course it is. You're stealing my property and my ability to benefit from it. It's no different than you stealing my car so I can't get to work. You can argue until you're blue in the face, it doesn't make you right.
    How is anyone stopping you from benefiting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by texashusker34 View Post
    Of course it is. You're stealing my property and my ability to benefit from it. It's no different than you stealing my car so I can't get to work. You can argue until you're blue in the face, it doesn't make you right.
    Back at you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texashusker34 View Post
    Of course it is. You're stealing my property and my ability to benefit from it. It's no different than you stealing my car so I can't get to work. You can argue until you're blue in the face, it doesn't make you right.
    You're the only one getting blue in the face over this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samson Corwell View Post
    You're the only one getting blue in the face over this.
    Yet here you are, humping my leg over something that should be common sense. I create something, you take it without my permission and profit from it, it's theft. I'm not sure why that's so hard for you to admit but it's making you look really ignorant.


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    Quote Originally Posted by texashusker34 View Post
    Yet here you are, humping my leg over something that should be common sense. I create something, you take it without my permission and profit from it, it's theft. I'm not sure why that's so hard for you to admit but it's making you look really ignorant.
    Then why do patents expire? Isn't that legalizing theft?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dantes View Post
    How is anyone stopping you from benefiting?
    Oh good God. This isn't rocket surgery folks.

    Kill patents and see how many people invest money in the US to create a product. I take the risk and spend the money to invent a product, you come along, steal the design and undercut me because you don't have the overhead of the R&D effort. How is that NOT theft?


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    Quote Originally Posted by texashusker34 View Post
    Oh good God. This isn't rocket surgery folks.

    Kill patents and see how many people invest money in the US to create a product. I take the risk and spend the money to invent a product, you come along, steal the design and undercut me because you don't have the overhead of the R&D effort. How is that NOT theft?
    How come I can steal your property after the patent expires?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dantes View Post
    Then why do patents expire? Isn't that legalizing theft?
    Come on, do I REALLY have to explain this crap to you? I thought you were smarter than that.

    Just start HERE:
    To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
    The point is that you invest money and time to invent something, you should have the right to benefit from it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dantes View Post
    How come I can steal your property after the patent expires?
    You can't. You can build something similar. I can still sue you for stealing my IP.


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    Quote Originally Posted by texashusker34 View Post
    You can't. You can build something similar. I can still sue you for stealing my IP.
    Not just similar, I can build something identical. Sounds like theft to me. I take something from you and prevent you from profiting from it. Totally legal.

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