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    A large group of white nationalists are currently marching through the University of Virginia campus. The story is breaking and more information is forthcoming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordelier View Post
    I think you're being too hardline... I don't see someone like Gen. Lee as being a "traitor" - he just considered himself to be more of a Virginian than an American. In a nutshell, that's what the war was about, was it not?
    He took up arms against the United States and ordered his soldiers to kill Americans. He was a traitor no matter his reasoning

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordelier View Post
    I think you're being too hardline... I don't see someone like Gen. Lee as being a "traitor" - he just considered himself to be more of a Virginian than an American. In a nutshell, that's what the war was about, was it not?
    He resigned his commission and fought against the United States. He was a traitor.

    That said, I do admire many things about him. But he was a traitor. No way to sugar coat it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samm View Post
    In effect. It is celebrated annually.

    What would your ilk do if there were an annual Robert E Lee day celebration?
    is it federal holiday or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikofit View Post
    It wasn't anyone on the left that spent months organizing this event. That was Richard Spencer and his reasons were to be controversial and divisive. He got exactly what he wanted.
    Are you saying the response by the left was that predictable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by less right View Post
    All those statues and those guys that love them, the ones with confederate flags plastered over their trucks and clothes are just trying to remind us of what could happen? More like it keeps alive the hope it can happen again.
    Sometimes they put that flag at the end of their driveway and everybody pretty much knows who is and isn't welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinGouki View Post
    He resigned his commission and fought against the United States. He was a traitor.

    That said, I do admire many things about him. But he was a traitor. No way to sugar coat it.
    What would you have done in his shoes? Would you have been able to fire on Vicksburg? Would you have been able to stand idly by while someone else did?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianJudo View Post
    depends if its federal holiday or not.
    We were not talking about holidays, we were talking about honoring folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordelier View Post
    So neo-Nazis then?
    Yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikofit View Post
    And why can't the man be honored in a museum instead of public land?
    He could be. But there's a large group of people who feel like that the Confederacy was right and the wrong side won and don't want to let that go. They still believe in a lot of the things that Confederate people believed in. They just lie about it now and say they don't. It's been one big running lie for decades and decades and decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikofit View Post
    I don't think we should replace 1 stick in the eye for another.
    Why? He's a hero, he fought to end slavery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samm View Post
    Are you saying the response by the left was that predictable?
    It was the left's reaction today you have the biggest problem with? That people would be upset about a march dedicated to white supremacy? Not the *******s chanting actual nazi slogans or running cars into groups of people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaughtInTheMiddle View Post
    Sometimes they put that flag at the end of their driveway and everybody pretty much knows who is and isn't welcome.
    Each one a reminder, not a celebration. So I've heard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samm View Post
    We were not talking about holidays, we were talking about honoring folks.
    You asked if I had an issue with Guy Fawkes Night

    I said it wasn't a Federal Holiday.

    You asked if I would have an issue with Robert Lee Celebration

    I asked if It would be a Federal Holiday or not.

    Its almost if my issue is the GOVERNMENT honoring traitors not people.

    The United States of America has no place building monument to someone conspired to destroy it.
    If you want to have a private celebration for him be my guest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pnafin View Post
    Yeah.
    Kinda figured. Black and tans are the same all over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordelier View Post
    What would you have done in his shoes? Would you have been able to fire on Vicksburg? Would you have been able to stand idly by while someone else did?
    that doesn't excuse him for committing Treason, he even admitted it himself in his letters.
    He knew what he was doing was high treason.
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