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    Default Which is better - Star Wars or Star Trek?

    So, which is it and why? The gritty, simplified good vs. evil coupled with a story of rebellions against a tyrannical order, or the nuanced, future of humanity story telling of essentially government bureaucrats in service of a one world government surveying the cosmos for the greater good of humankind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solsbury Krill View Post
    So, which is it and why? The gritty, simplified good vs. evil coupled with a story of rebellions against a tyrannical order, or the nuanced, future of humanity story telling of essentially government bureaucrats in service of a one world government surveying the cosmos for the greater good of humankind?
    No question ... Star Trek

    And if you have to have the reasons why explained to you, you wouldn't understand.

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    1st gen star trek
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    Have you guys ever checked out Star Trek Continues? If you're an original series Star Trek fan, you owe it to yourself to watch some of their episodes - they do an amazing job, and they're very true to the original concept of the show... which is more than I can say for the crappy movies they're pumping out these days.

    If Paramount had a clue, they'd hire these guys and give them the budget to put together some really great movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Girl from Ipanema View Post
    1st gen star trek
    All generations of Star Trek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samm View Post
    All generations of Star Trek.
    Wesley Crusher was a generation too many.

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    ........All I can say is...



    ....................There is enough room in the universe to like them both.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordelier View Post
    Wesley Crusher was a generation too many.
    Wesley Crusher was only one character in that generation of Star Trek, and he was LOT better than Jar Jar Binks. Heck, he was even better than the Ewoks or Jabba the Hutt.

    Besides, you don't get a much better than character than Jean-Luc Picard in any sci-fi story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
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    ....................There is enough room in the universe to like them both.



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    The question is not about "like" it is about "better."

    I like the Star Wars series a lot and have always looked forward to the next film release (although, there has been disappointment with some of the films,) but it is absolutely not a better story or production than Star Trek.

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    I would perhaps go with the fact that Star Trek has stories of greater depth than Star Wars, but for me the Star Wars films are more relatable in that they feel more human. For me there's something about the Millenium Falcon for instance being a built up parts yard project connects me back to my shade tree mechanic past. Everything in Star Trek looks so corporate or sterile, barring say Klingon ships. And on that note, the portrayal of alien life in Star Wars for me seems more interesting or well done than in Star Trek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samm View Post
    Wesley Crusher was only one character in that generation of Star Trek, and he was LOT better than Jar Jar Binks. Heck, he was even better than the Ewoks or Jabba the Hutt.

    Besides, you don't get a much better than character than Jean-Luc Picard in any sci-fi story.
    *L* I think I'd put him on the same level with Jar Jar.... If you want character development in sci-fi, I think Firefly had it down pat. It was a shame it got cancelled after just one season. No accounting for corporate taste, I guess.

    PS - I didn't like Riker either....he struck me as an arrogant prig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solsbury Krill View Post
    I would perhaps go with the fact that Star Trek has stories of greater depth than Star Wars, but for me the Star Wars films are more relatable in that they feel more human. For me there's something about the Millenium Falcon for instance being a built up parts yard project connects me back to my shade tree mechanic past. Everything in Star Trek looks so corporate or sterile, barring say Klingon ships. And on that note, the portrayal of alien life in Star Wars for me seems more interesting or well done than in Star Trek.
    The esthetics of the hardware makes the difference for you? Really?

    Star Wars completely ignores physics; Star Trek embraced it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samm View Post
    Wesley Crusher was only one character in that generation of Star Trek, and he was LOT better than Jar Jar Binks. Heck, he was even better than the Ewoks or Jabba the Hutt.

    Besides, you don't get a much better than character than Jean-Luc Picard in any sci-fi story.
    Kirk blows picard out of the water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samm View Post
    The esthetics of the hardware makes the difference for you? Really?

    Star Wars completely ignores physics; Star Trek embraced it.

    Read the nitpickers guide to star trek.
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    Personally I like Star Trek better; I feel that the characters are deeper and have unique personalities and backstories. But I will admit that the storyline in Star Wars is probably richer, as it deals with everything from romance to corrupt/Chicago-style politics.

    Just adding in that Voyager is my favorite Star Trek series. I like the character Seven of Nine in particular. I think I can kind of relate to her personality. I haven't seen much of 1st generation Star Trek, or even Next Generation.
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