Thread: the SEVEN Dispensations
June 10th, 2013, 1:32 am #1
the SEVEN Dispensations
Here is a great chart on the above topic. Many Protestants believe in Dispensationalism (not all). What do you think? Please digest the chart before commenting The chart summarizes all seven dispensations in God's Plan for man. Here are the last two.
for all, see link below.
6. GRACE- this age now/ aka the Church Age until the PreTrib Rapture. The Bride of Christ caught up to meet Him. 1 Thes 4:16-17, Rev 3:10.
TRIBULATION- In the Tribulation, man's failure comes to awful fruition:
Innocence- Men live the lie & call evil good (Gen 3:5).
Conscience- Corrupt minds ignore God's Word (Mat 24:37-39).
Government- The world unites with antichrist against God.
Promise- Israel is in the promised land, but in unbelief.
Law- The rebuilt Temple is given over to false worship.
Grace- The apostate church is aligned with the antichrist.
(a special 7 yr period)
7. KINGDOM- During the Kingdom age, the disorder of previous ages is corrected:
Innocence- God's truth is known by all men (Jer 31:34).
Conscience- God's people have holy hearts to serve Him (Jer 31:33).
Government- Christ rules from Jerusalem. Righteousness covers the earth.
Promise- Israel is in her land. Abrahamic & Davidic covenants are fulfilled.
Law- True temple worship declares that Christ has fulfilled the Law.
Grace- The true church is with Christ in His glory.
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June 10th, 2013, 7:55 am #2
June 10th, 2013, 12:22 pm #3Promise- Israel is in the promised land, but in unbelief.Promise- Israel is in her land. Abrahamic & Davidic covenants are fulfilled.
If that land promise has not been fulfilled because Abraham did not personally receive that piece of dirt, the world has not been blessed through Abraham because he is not here personally to give that blessing.
Abraham rules the world now through Christ, his seed. Abraham does not have to be here personally, physically present for the world to be blessed through him and his seed.
"Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, "And to offsprings," referring to many; but, referring to one, "And to your offspring," which is Christ." Galatians 3:16
Those belonging to Christ are Abraham's seed. The land promise has been fulfilled.
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June 11th, 2013, 2:57 am #4
when was it fulfilled?
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Dispensations are not paths to salvation.
They are ways God relates to man.
In terms of Israel and the church with a literal interpretation of prophecy
June 11th, 2013, 3:10 am #6
no one said they were....
June 11th, 2013, 3:40 pm #7
When the new covenant was fully established. Jesus said when He took the final cup at passover "This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you." Luke 22:20
Jeremiah 31:31 God promised Israel that He would establish a New Covenant with them, in the last days, and in that New Covenant, they would find forgiveness of sin. The Old Law could never provide forgiveness of sin.
Jesus appeared in the last days, the days when God was to make His New Covenant with Israel . . . . Hebrews 1:1 Jesus came to confirm the promises made to the fathers - Romans 15:8 so it was significant when Jesus told His disciples that the cup represented His blood, that He was shedding to establish the New Covenant. Jesus was fulfilling the promise of Jeremiah 31 and Ezekiel 37 and other prophecies of the OT.
Jesus did come to fulfill the promises to Israel, and one of those promises was that of the New Covenant.
The New Covenant that Jesus established was made with Israel. On Pentecost, Jews were gathered there in Jerusalem from every nation under heaven. The obedient entered into a Covenant relationship with the Messiah THAT DAY.
The New Covenant that Jesus died to establish does what Jeremiah promised the New Covenant was to be - "written in the heart" - 2 Cor. 3.
Covenants had to be sealed with blood. The Mosaic Covenant was sealed with the sprinkling of the blood of animals - Ex. 24. The New Covenant of Jesus was sealed by His blood - Heb. 9.
For some, Israel must be distinctively separated in every respect for their theories to survive, but that invalidates what Paul stated in Eph. 2 "But now in Christ Jesus you who were far off have been brought near in the blood of Christ. For He is our peace, who has made us both one, and has broken down the dividing wall of hostility, by abolishing in His flesh the law of commandments and ordinances, that He might create in himself one new man in place of two, so making peace and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby bringing the hostility to an end."
Jew and Gentile together in one Body - in Christ.
The only way for God to establish another covenant in the future is to abrogate the Gospel of Jesus. To suggest that there is another covenant that is in any way better than that of the Covenant of Christ is to dishonor the Covenant purchased with His perfect sacrifice.
June 12th, 2013, 3:57 am #8
Until Jesus returns he has this power allowed to him by God. Why do you think there is so much evil in this world. In the other thread BTW, I listed several things which have not been fulfilled yet. None of those things have happened yet.
Satan is called the "prince of the power of the air". (Eph 2:2).
Satan is the "ruler of this world". (John 12:31)
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June 12th, 2013, 5:52 am #9
About 15% of prophecy is still unfulfilled including: the Rapture of the Church, a world leader coming forth, 7 year peace covenant confirmed with Israel (which is broken 3 and a half years into the 7 year trib), Gog-Magog war, the 144,000 evangelists, Two Old Testament-Type Prophets Preach (possible Elijah and Enoch), who are shot in the head, and are raised by God in front of everyone (the two witnesses), Their dead bodies will lie in the streets of Jerusalem for three days, then they will be resurrected to life, and will lift into the sky before the astonished eyes of their murderers and of the whole world.
The AC is revealed, The false prophet and the Beast also, the Jews flee, possibly to the mountains of Petra, One world gov't, economy, religion, Babylon, the MOB, mark of the Beast, Jesus returns on the Mount of Olives, Jesus judges the Nations, Jesus sets up the Millennial Kingdom and much more!
June 12th, 2013, 6:01 am #10The old system of lesser gods and goddesses is the dualistic sublimation of fear into sexuality. Whereas monistic equality in Christ is not born of fear and of the flesh, but of love.
June 12th, 2013, 9:54 am #11
Matt. 12:22, Jesus cast a demon out of a man. The Pharisees insisted it was by the power of the Devil. Jesus challenged them "how can one enter into a strong man's house and spoil his goods except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house." Jesus' power to cast out demons demonstrated - the imminence of the kingdom - verse 28 - and the binding of Satan - verse 29. Satan was being bound by Jesus.
When our Lord sent 70 disciples on a mission, he empowered them to cast out demons, heal the sick, and raise the dead. Luke 10 Their message was "The kingdom of God is come nigh unto you." They returned and said "Lord even the devils are subject unto us through thy name." Jesus said, "I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven."
Was Satan being bound?? Was Jesus foreseeing his utter destruction?
In John 12:31, John records Jesus' words as to the fate of Satan and Jesus' power over him as he stood at the cross and contemplated His victory he said "Now is the judgment of this world, now is the god of this world cast out."
Jesus saw Satan as about to be defeated. Jesus said now is Satan cast out. Not 2000+ years from then, Jesus said now.
In John chapter 16 Jesus spoke of sending the Holy Spirit. He said the Spirit would convict the world of judgment because "the prince of this world has been judged." And in 1 John 3:5-8, John tells us that Jesus was manifested to destroy the works of the devil.
Hebrews 2:14 says Jesus came to destroy the devil. Did Jesus fail in what He came to do?
It is wrong to say that Jesus came to do something but failed . . . . . .it is wrong to say Jesus came to bind Satan but He has not done it yet.
Do we still have evil in the world? In Rev 20, Satan is cast into the lake of fire - fully defeated. But in chapter 22:15, outside the New Jerusalem, is all manner of evil. Here is the continued existence of sin and evil after Satan is shown as destroyed.
There is evil in the world today but Satan cannot condemn a child of God. Romans 8. He is saved and the devil cannot do a thing about it. "There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ." "Who shall bring a charge against God's elect?". . . . . . "Who is the one that condemns?" The answer is - no one. That is the good news.
James says we are tempted and drawn away of our own lusts. We must take responsibility for our own appetites. Jesus overcame the world and so can we. If Jesus failed to destroy Satan, we are still without hope.
June 12th, 2013, 10:23 am #12
J.B. Phillips version of this verse goes into greater detail (I consider it more of a commentary): "This is the ministry of the new agreement which God in his mercy has given us and nothing can daunt us. We use no hocus-pocus, no clever tricks, no dishonest manipulation of the Word of God. We speak the plain truth and so commend ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God. If our Gospel is “veiled”, the veil must be in the minds of those who are spiritually dying. The spirit of this world has blinded the minds of those who do not believe, and prevents the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ, the image of God, from shining on them. For it is Christ Jesus the Lord whom we preach, not ourselves; we are your servants for his sake. God, who first ordered ‘light to shine in darkness’, has flooded our hearts with his light. We now can enlighten men only because we can give them knowledge of the glory of God, as we see it in the face of Jesus Christ."
IMO, the so-called "god" (Satan) a false angel of light, has blinded those who do not believe. Yes, it is possible to be blinded by light. But it is a false light, using clever tricks, dishonesty and manipulation of the Word of God."The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." Ecclesiastes 10:2
June 12th, 2013, 10:46 am #14