Obamacare forbids gun registration - Harry Reid had it put in the massive bill

[FreeAndClear]

Actually before we go jumping to conclusions and accusing Breitbart of something, I believe one should be sure that Breitbart did what the OP claims

Since neither link in the OP worked for me I did a search for this story on Breitbarts site.

I found this story from Jan 9 that I assume the OP was referencing.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...o-Registration



Bold mine
The two words in bold were left out of the OP, which gives an entirely different meaning to the story

It would appear to me that the OP was given false information by a friend. I would always suggest researching information firsthand that a friend gives you just to make sure it is indeed factual

It would also appear that the poster I am replying to here did close to what they are accusing Breitbart of doing. It turns out the original story has the correct language but this poster in an eager attempt to blame Breitbart failed to research the story for themselves and placed blame where non was due

Thats all

No problem.

I can't research it this closely and I will take your word for it. I'd Breitbart specifically addresses aca and medical forms then mea cuplpa

[FreeAndClear]

Actually if you had researched the actual story it does not say that

Why should I have to.

The op gave us the story, I argued with the op presentation.

[FreeAndClear]

It would also seem you fell for something LOL

Should have looked into it before being so eager to place blame

Fine.

I am taking my ball and going home.

[MXdad]

Fine.

I am taking my ball and going home.

No problem your statement in #31 was an honorable one. I also fail for the OP at first glance but then though wait a minute this can't be true LOL

The OP sucked us all in for a moment LOL

[smyrna]

Regarding the OP... ya gotta like that!

Oh.

[JimmyC123]

Actually if you had researched the actual story it does not say that

Yeah, I fell for it, too. I read the article's headline - “Obamacare Amendment Forbids Gun and Ammo Registration“ - and took it to man that they were claiming that an Obamacare amendment forbids gun and ammo registration.

[Conan]

Yeah the op falling for Breitbart is pretty funny

Too funny....a lib telling a con he's taking thing out of context and he should look up gullible. Libs do that all the time with their propaganda networks.

[FreeAndClear]

Too funny....a lib telling a con he's taking thing out of context and he should look up gullible. Libs do that all the time with their propaganda networks.

Ok. So every time I post somewhere, I must without fail cite every mistake made by both sides?

Ok no problem, as long as you hold yourself to the same standard.

[penner01]

Ooh I got my talking point from dailykos.

Breitbart does what Breitbart foes best, take things out of context.

Oh by the way you need to check the dictionary and see if gullible is in there:


What this means is that this information cannot be provided to a doctor. So the only thing that is true is that the idea that psychiatrists can gather this information is prohibited pursuant to the aca.

It is questionable whether psychologists and counselors can collect it since they are not doctors.

I tend to get tired of reading these things and my focus wanes, but this is the way I see it too. I can see it possibly being used to argue cases against gun registration, but I do think this relates to the patient/physician discussion.

Interestingly, our docs have been asking those questions for quite some time as part of a standard patient risk assessment and it does have notations in the EMR. Maybe it'll be legal so long as you aren't asked for an inventory and serial numbers.

[DapperDan]

Even if the OP were true, why couldnt Congress just write that out whenever they pass the gun registration law? Its just a statute.

[supreme_war_Pig]

Who the hell registers guns via medical forms?

Dunno why, but this got my funny bone.

[lkz]

The reality is you do not need doctors asking if you have a gun etc in a medical exam. The government will have two or more data bases. They have the medical database with specific medical diagnosis and medications identified for each patient. They have FBI/State criminal records.
Were they to change the law to say people with diagnosed mental illness or using medications for psychiatric illness they would just have to run you identification against the two databases to determine if you could purchase a gun.
I personally don't think this is a good idea, but the Obamacare law does not prevent the medical data from being used for evaluation to own a gun.
It just prohibits the collection of data from the patient regarding guns.

I do have a question. When you purchase a gun, you fill out a form and they check to determine if it is okay for you to own a gun. They do not keep this information in any database--correct? They don't really know who currently has guns and who doesn't have guns. Am I right on that?

[PRSPlayer]

People come on if Obama the criminal ignores the 2nd amendment he swore to defend, he ignores federal immigration law what makes you think he will obey this law?

[Samm]

It says Obama care prohibits gun registration.

It does not.

It prohibits gun registration via medical forms. Nothing else.

Who the hell registers guns via medical forms?

Perhaps you are too young to have taken notice... It has been mandatory under Medicare for the doctor to have patients on their first Medicare covered visit, fill out a questionaire. Included are questions on whether you have firearms in your residence and how they are stored. Granted, they do not ask you for the make, model and serial number of every gun you own, so "registration" is an exaggeration, but that is the intrusion on your privacy that Harry Reid was cutting off with his amendment.

Harry may be a liberal Democrat, but he is not a liberal gun grabber... the NRA gives him a B rating.

[Samm]

Now you are making logical leaps.

That is not what Breitbart is saying. That is what you are arguing.

He can do it under the several gun control acts that are still in power such the gun control act of 1968.

However if you want to make the point that the only way it can pass is through an eo, you are probably right. Again nothing to donte op or Breitbart

No he can't... All he can do (legally) with an EO is to emphasize sections within existing law... there is no firearm law that has any provision related to firearm registration except for the 1934 law that made fully automatic firearms, short barreled rifles/shotguns, and suppressors Title 2 weapons and required that they be registered. He cannot simply require registration or move any gun that he does not like into that classification. That would require Congress to change the law or write a new one.