How can anyone claim that the media is not biased?

[dad49er]

The MSM is not the liberal media but they are certainly heavily left leaning. Aside from Fox News of course.

The only thing they are to the left of is the conservative media, at the most they lean slightly left. The liberal media of course thinks they lean way to far right, have a conservative bias, and are corporately controlled. If that sounds ridiculous it isn't a bit more ridiculous than all the pronouncements of "LMSM" heavily left, and an operating arm of the DNC.

[DaHa]

That is simply because the MSM is not the liberal media. Anyone who thinks the MSM is the liberal media is just demonstrating they have no real idea of who the liberal media is.

Of course the MSM is more liberal than the conservative media, that does not however make them the liberal media. Not even close.

To be fair the liberal media is sometimes just as guilty, they have the idea that the MSM is the conservative media.

Amusingly, if you go to any political discussion site (of either stripe) the main topic of discussion is almost always "the media is biased against us". Far as I can tell, if they're ****ing everyone off, they're probably doing something right

[CaughtInTheMiddle]

I don't watch the news but when I did it was pretty obvious that msnbc and fox were the mouthpieces for the dnc and rnc. Who needs to listen to that?

[Bluesgtr44]

Watching the local news this morning. Big headline...."Decision time 2012". And then the proceeded to show 1 FULL minute of obama on DAY TWO of his campaigning and it was all obama speaking here, there, etc. Then they MENTIONED, just MENTIONED...no video footage....NOT EVEN A STILL PHOTO of Romney and that he would be in Ohio today. Wow that took 5 seconds to mention the republican candidate romney and where he would be.

Are Americans really this stupid that they fall for this brainwashing?

Because the individuals that represent the MSM actually believe that their own personal ideology is where the "middle" of this country is. That's really how over blown their egos are in this......either that or they just don't care about anything other than their own ideology, which again....brings as back to ego.

[Guild-Sfire]

Frankly I don't personally know anyone that claims the Media is unbiased.

But your claim that a local station, on one occasion, allegedly spent 60 seconds on Obama coverage and allegedly only 5 seconds on Romney coverage is hardly proof of bias.

^^
This.

[Relyks]

A left wing media would replace Anderson Cooper with Chomsky or something.

[dad49er]

Amusingly, if you go to any political discussion site (of either stripe) the main topic of discussion is almost always "the media is biased against us". Far as I can tell, if they're ****ing everyone off, they're probably doing something right

I agree 100%.

[dad49er]

Because the individuals that represent the MSM actually believe that their own personal ideology is where the "middle" of this country is. That's really how over blown their egos are in this......either that or they just don't care about anything other than their own ideology, which again....brings as back to ego.

And conservatives claiming they compromise 40% of the country and more isn't ego?

[Unaffiliated]

And conservatives claiming they compromise 40% of the country and more isn't ego?

They might compromise 40% of the land area of the U.S. but there is zero evidence they compromise 40% of the electorate. If they did, elections and more importantly, candidate choices would look much different than the reality the rest of us witness every day.

So, no. It's not ego for the conservatives. It's wishful thinking.

[zantax]

They might compromise 40% of the land area of the U.S. but there is zero evidence they compromise 40% of the electorate. If they did, elections and more importantly, candidate choices would look much different than the reality the rest of us witness every day.

So, no. It's not ego for the conservatives. It's wishful thinking.

Depends on your definition of conservative obviously, the 40% figure is self described. Obviously saying you're conservative and actually being one isn't the same thing or John McCain would have never been nominated.

[Unaffiliated]

Depends on your definition of conservative obviously, the 40% figure is self described. Obviously saying you're conservative and actually being one isn't the same thing or John McCain would have never been nominated.

Good point. I wonder what percentage of the electorate is conservative as it's defined around here? I would guess around 20%.

I think the ideological faithful on the Left and Right make up about 20% each and everyone else is pretty evenly spread out among the 60% between those two.

[Bluesgtr44]

That is simply because the MSM is not the liberal media. Anyone who thinks the MSM is the liberal media is just demonstrating they have no real idea of who the liberal media is.

Of course the MSM is more liberal than the conservative media, that does not however make them the liberal media. Not even close.

To be fair the liberal media is sometimes just as guilty, they have the idea that the MSM is the conservative media.

...To you.....To you. Most of how this is viewed is encumbent upon where we are and what the sentiment is in our immediate surroundings. The MSM presents most of their "news" from the vantage point of the larger metropolitan areas. This is a little over half the country and thus, the other half doesn't really relate to the way these get presented. And as we know, a great majority of those metropolitan areas are liberal bastions.

It will never look that way to you because you probably live in a pretty liberal area and think that's the whole country....I could be wrong on that. But, I do believe that the reasoning of whether or not one thinks the media is biased is based on more than just "conservatives are kooks". This is going with the stronger notion out there is that there is a liberal bias in MSM, not a conservative one.

[Unaffiliated]

...To you.....To you. Most of how this is viewed is encumbent upon where we are and what the sentiment is in our immediate surroundings. The MSM presents most of their "news" from the vantage point of the larger metropolitan areas. This is a little over half the country and thus, the other half doesn't really relate to the way these get presented. And as we know, a great majority of those metropolitan areas are liberal bastions.

It will never look that way to you because you probably live in a pretty liberal area and think that's the whole country....I could be wrong on that. But, I do believe that the reasoning of whether or not one thinks the media is biased is based on more than just "conservatives are kooks". This is going with the stronger notion out there is that there is a liberal bias in MSM, not a conservative one.

I come into contact with a lot people that span the political spectrum and the only people that ever mention media bias are conservatives.

I think most people already know the media, in all it's forms, has always been and will always be more liberal oriented. Part of this is the fact that media will always push boundaries (something conservatives by nature, don't do much of) and mostly because most liberally minded people seek out that kind of career.

We will always see things like media, the arts, education, science, etc. attracting more liberal minded people than conservative. Left leaning people are more inclined to be open to ideas outside of the norm whereas conservatives have a certainty about their beliefs - an admirable quality but, not necessarily for those career choices.

[dad49er]

They might compromise 40% of the land area of the U.S. but there is zero evidence they compromise 40% of the electorate. If they did, elections and more importantly, candidate choices would look much different than the reality the rest of us witness every day.

So, no. It's not ego for the conservatives. It's wishful thinking.

I don't believe they are either, but I see the claim here repeated often.

IMO it is both wishful thinking, and ego.

[dad49er]

...To you.....To you. Most of how this is viewed is encumbent upon where we are and what the sentiment is in our immediate surroundings. The MSM presents most of their "news" from the vantage point of the larger metropolitan areas. This is a little over half the country and thus, the other half doesn't really relate to the way these get presented. And as we know, a great majority of those metropolitan areas are liberal bastions.

It will never look that way to you because you probably live in a pretty liberal area and think that's the whole country....I could be wrong on that. But, I do believe that the reasoning of whether or not one thinks the media is biased is based on more than just "conservatives are kooks". This is going with the stronger notion out there is that there is a liberal bias in MSM, not a conservative one.

Maybe it would be best to give examples:

The liberal media is Huffington, The Nation, Mother Jones, The Pulse networks, etc.

The liberal media is not ABC, CBS, NBC or the average day to day news publication. Members of the MSM are attacked by the liberal media for their perceived conservative/corporate bias nearly as much as conservatives acuse the MSM of a liberal bias.

Just opposite sides of the same coin.