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    Default A Question About Republicans and War

    I recently saw a bit on tv where they were talking about what stance Mitt Romney would take on the war in Afghanistan. It made me think of a question that has always confused me.

    Why is it that republicans generally support wars, but are against tax increases?

    Our taxes are what pay for the wars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartpittbulls View Post
    I recently saw a bit on tv where they were talking about what stance Mitt Romney would take on the war in Afghanistan. It made me think of a question that has always confused me.

    Why is it that republicans generally support wars, but are against tax increases?

    Our taxes are what pay for the wars.
    Because we're all elitist war-mongers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markdido View Post
    Because we're all elitist war-mongers.
    oh....I see

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    It doesn't make much sense. The people in our country that most want to police the world are usually the ones with no plan to pay for it. And never do anything about cutting other programs to pay for it.

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    "Provide for the common defense" is in the Constitution.

    Paying taxes used to pay for my neighbor's cell phone, heating oil, food, and rent is NOT!
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    The confusing part is perception versus reallity. Major military actions in the 20th and 21st Century:

    WWI Dem President
    WWII Dem President
    Korea Dem President
    Vietnam Dem President Total US Personnel Death Toll for these wars over 600,000

    Grenada, Panama, Desert Storm, GWOT Republican President US Personnel DeathToll < 7,000.

    From a historical statistical perspective under a Democratic president 94 soldiers died during war for every 1 soldier that died when a Republican was in office. In my mind that alone makes the case for lower taxes.

    Historically when committed to war by Democrats US forces have been at a low point in training, equipment and funding. It's almost as if the Democrat Presidents purposefully pick the worst possible time and place to send our troops to combat.

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    Raising Taxes does not raise revenue
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    I dont think its that the Republicans are for war but rather they use the image of war to shroud themselves in pseudo patriotism. They know that America as a society holds the military in high esteem (probably stems from the fact that America was born out of armed revolution and the union was maintained because of miltary force).

    There is no easier way for a politician to pander to their base than to use the military/military operations to show the people they are great Americans and worth of election.

    The Republicans do this far better than the Democrats but both parties are guilty of it. I suspect there are more than a few politicians today in Congress who only served in the military to further their political ambition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartpittbulls View Post
    I recently saw a bit on tv where they were talking about what stance Mitt Romney would take on the war in Afghanistan. It made me think of a question that has always confused me.

    Why is it that republicans generally support wars, but are against tax increases?

    Our taxes are what pay for the wars.
    Every one with an ounce of sense hates war. Democrat, Republican, Independent, Whatever.

    The next question; what are the good options for stopping those who are absolutely determined to force their agenda on the rest of the world? I have asked this question many times and no one has ever given me a realistic answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne_L View Post
    The confusing part is perception versus reallity. Major military actions in the 20th and 21st Century:

    WWI Dem President
    WWII Dem President
    Korea Dem President
    Vietnam Dem President Total US Personnel Death Toll for these wars over 600,000

    Grenada, Panama, Desert Storm, GWOT Republican President US Personnel DeathToll < 7,000.

    From a historical statistical perspective under a Democratic president 94 soldiers died during war for every 1 soldier that died when a Republican was in office. In my mind that alone makes the case for lower taxes.

    Historically when committed to war by Democrats US forces have been at a low point in training, equipment and funding. It's almost as if the Democrat Presidents purposefully pick the worst possible time and place to send our troops to combat.
    Isn't that statistic kinda skewed?

    The type of combat that took place in WWI is completely different than modern wars.

    That is like comparing deaths caused by tuberculosis in 1912 compared with 2012, and drawing conclusions about the doctors treating it based on the magnitude of the deaths. Medicine was very different then, just as war was.

    Quote Originally Posted by ROBERTENEAL View Post
    Every one with an ounce of sense hates war. Democrat, Republican, Independent, Whatever.
    This is debatable. I think war gets diluted by politics. Politicians view it as a topic and not as a reality. It becomes an issue of policy and not of humanity. In that sense, some politicians do not hate war, they promote it.

    And, the issue is not who hates war, it is who promotes it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coyote1880 View Post
    Raising Taxes does not raise revenue
    Coyote, if only we could make those Democrats understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartpittbulls View Post
    Isn't that statistic kinda skewed?

    The type of combat that took place in WWI is completely different than modern wars.

    That is like comparing deaths caused by tuberculosis in 1912 compared with 2012, and drawing conclusions about the doctors treating it based on the magnitude of the deaths. Medicine was very different then, just as war was.
    If you believe that remove 110,000 from WWI and you still end up with a ratio of over 80 to 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartpittbulls View Post
    I recently saw a bit on tv where they were talking about what stance Mitt Romney would take on the war in Afghanistan. It made me think of a question that has always confused me.

    Why is it that republicans generally support wars, but are against tax increases?

    Our taxes are what pay for the wars.
    Republicans don't support wars any more than Democrats. What you are falling for are the two party propaganda machines.

    Both parties have latched onto certain topics because it polarizes people into two camps. Unfortunately, many people like this because it creates an "us" or "them" mentality requiring no or very little thought when it comes to voting. 'D' or 'R' is all that is necessary to remember. The politicians like it for the same reason, all they have to do is convince voters they are better than the evil other side.....never mind the details of their tenure in office. Political entertainers like it because they can build a loyal audience who again really don't have to think, just agree that the other side is evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coyote1880 View Post
    Raising Taxes does not raise revenue

    Since taxes are the means by which the government gains money I think it does.
    Ive come to realize that however well gun control works in other country's it will never work in this one, we love violence and war far too much. So there's no point in even trying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROBERTENEAL View Post
    Every one with an ounce of sense hates war. Democrat, Republican, Independent, Whatever.

    The next question; what are the good options for stopping those who are absolutely determined to force their agenda on the rest of the world? I have asked this question many times and no one has ever given me a realistic answer.

    That's easy, the liberal way to win wars is to appease the enemy until we are no threat to them. Never mind that it has never worked, liberals are all about intentions and don't give a dam about results.
    The so called two party system is actually two puppets controlled by the same puppeteer. The only way "We the People" can take our country back is to support a viable, fiscal conservative third party.

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