Thread: Still thinking of Rhet
May 3rd, 2012, 3:27 pm #46
May 3rd, 2012, 6:12 pm #47
People don't like to be taught moral lessons, but they are willing to see how far we have come, what we went through, or how far we have fallen, and gain the same moral lesson by reflecting on that. It's your book do it your way. I'm just giving free advice and will continue to do so.
Last edited by Long Island Bob; May 3rd, 2012 at 6:29 pm.
May 3rd, 2012, 9:27 pm #48
I don't want to preach morality -- I want to show morality: the difference between my father's way of life and what happened to my generation -- and the generation after that -- and let people draw whatever philosophical conclusions they themselves can find from the pictures I want to draw with words"The road to hell is paved with good intentions" -- and, Obama, your good intentions ARE hell for everybody except your chosen special few.
May 3rd, 2012, 9:57 pm #49
make your book "an american story" title exactly as you have, write it 99% as you are planning, but emphasize that these are not things that happened in bird's life, these are not lessons Rhet is trying to teach you, this is the story of America. This is what happened. This is our story.
I might have a completely incorrect mental picture about The Bell Jar, but I sense that watching "Same Time Next Year," and "Avalon" and thinking of Roots, would be positive inspirations.
Last edited by Long Island Bob; May 3rd, 2012 at 10:00 pm.
May 3rd, 2012, 10:55 pm #50
America never was about conformity and "fitting in" -- it was about extreme individualists who COULD NOT be like others and wound up leaving the others behind to strike out and find their own unique and special paths, about defying the "social norms" and daring to be true to themselves, honest with themselves, daring to risk literally dying because they could not betray their own unique Personhood. When Jenny caved in to peer pressure, she lost her own uniqueness -- all the time she was yelling about being unique, not conforming to my Dad's way of life, she was letting others dictate who she was and how she should live and conforming to a very different sort of pressure to be exactly like everybody else -- and that got her killed, literally. Others got killed figuratively, becoming lost souls with no idea where to go and how to live, trapped in their own self-induced submission to the mandates of others without a clue how to find the strength to break loose and just be themselves as best they can regardless of crap like bills and money and the things money can buy so the neighbors will approve.
Last edited by rhet 2; May 3rd, 2012 at 11:03 pm."The road to hell is paved with good intentions" -- and, Obama, your good intentions ARE hell for everybody except your chosen special few.
May 4th, 2012, 8:06 am #51
Your family's stories are in a way unique. but people want to read them, want to know them because people can relate to them.
Like the (fictitious) Forrest Gump. None of us went through what he supposedly went through, but all of us loved the story because it told the story of us all.
May 5th, 2012, 9:26 pm #52
Rhet I am sorry for your loss first.
Now I know why I like reading your posts. They are from the heart, which I always felt they were.
I am a long time lurker mostly, some times I post in something that I feel strongly about, but not too often as I know I am not as good with words as the others are.
But I have learned a lot of stuff since I found this site and follow most links that are posted to learn more.
Thank you and keep posting no matter what anyone says because there are some of us that like to read them.
pennyObama see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil, last one not true,
mmm never mind.
May 5th, 2012, 10:42 pm #53
Think of it this way: if we all had the same writing style, wouldn't that just be another way to deny our own individuality? Each of us is different, thank God! So each of us requires our own unique communication style, too. And it's the differences that make communication both more challenging and more fun."The road to hell is paved with good intentions" -- and, Obama, your good intentions ARE hell for everybody except your chosen special few.
May 6th, 2012, 10:38 pm #54
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May 11th, 2012, 11:47 am #57
I take my responsibilities seriously. I sometimes make commitments i cannot keep but I kick myself HARD for doing so.
I would LOVE to help you with this project. I really would, but I'm not able to make any commitments for the next few weeks.
If you ask again then, I will probably be able to make the commitment you need. For now, it would be dishonest of me to say "yes."
May 11th, 2012, 12:05 pm #58
May 11th, 2012, 12:15 pm #59
No sympathies needed. It's just that I have taken on projects (for friends) half-heartedly before. the result was an unfinished project and a damaged relationship.
I'll probably screw up that way once or twice more before this race is done, but I do try to avoid making commitments unless I truly can follow-through.
Ask me again in a few weeks, really.
May 23rd, 2012, 6:26 pm #60
Check your PMs Bird.
this new format doesn't tell you automatically when you have one.