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    http://gma.yahoo.com/orlando-watch-s...-abc-news.html

    A 17 year old kid was walking to the store from his dad's house to buy a can of iced tea and a bag of skittles. The Neighborhood Watch captain felt the kid looked suspicious - he was walking "slowly" and was wearing a hoodie. So the Neighborhood watch captain called police. Police told him to stay in the car, an officer was on the way. Instead, this guy got out of the car and started chasing the kid. He eventually caught the kid, who he outweighed by 100 pounds, a fight ensued, and the guy shot the kid.

    Anyone wanna guess what color the kid was?

    So far, this guy is claiming "self-defense." I say, Cold Blooded Murder. It looks like the police are completely bungling the investigation.

    If this were my kid? Mr. Zimmerman would be erased. I doubt I'd be able to wait for the law to decide.

    What are your thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nwihistory View Post
    Not going to read the entire thread, but someone might have already said this....if what Zimmerman stated is kind of what happened, why did he not say while Martin approached him " Stay back, I am armed"?
    The narrative doesn't seem to support this scenario overall I'd say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MXdad View Post
    And a week or so ago the Rev Race Pimp made this statment

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/al-s...-not-arrested/
    i notice you didn't include the part that said sharpton was talking about civil disobedience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwil59 View Post
    That law needs to go.

    We have a similar one in my state which I talked to my state senator about last week.

    Self defense is already legal, we don't need to give people more reasons to kill each other and think it is ok.

    It's bad law, period
    Emphasis mine. The law in no way allows for same.

    The problem is without such clear cut rules that remove the "duty to retreat" and hold you immune from all civil and criminal penalties as long as the evidence supports the claim of SD, you can saver your family and at the same time lose your life as you have known it prior to having to make such a call.

    Self Defense is the most fundamental rights of man, and one should never be made a victim by the "justice system" for exercising that most basic of rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reflechissez View Post
    i notice you didn't include the part that said sharpton was talking about civil disobedience.
    Well maybe he actually read the headline of the cited article.


    Al Sharpton Threatens Civil Disobedience if George Zimmerman Not Arrested


    Reading can be very informative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwil59 View Post
    I didn't think you had to be arraigned to get bail.

    Interesting but yes someone will pay his way out if he gets it. I think he should get it, the man isn't going anywhere. For his own safety though, jail might be the best place for him as long as they keep him segregated.
    You haven't even been charged until the arraignment. Sometimes bail will be requested after the judge charges you, sometimes it isn't.

    In this case Z's lawyers didn't ask and later stated that things just need to cool down for now.

    He's certainly safer in custody than he would be if he were released and as soon as he walked out of the door the Race Hustlers would be calling for his head. Again that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WildRose View Post
    Emphasis mine.

    By reading the press release on the SPD website and watching the March 26 press conference where they state the evidence supports Z's version of events that Martin attacked him while Z was returning to his truck.
    1. i don't see a press release on the website.

    2. stating that the evidence supports z's version, is not the same thing as knowing what z's version is.

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    [QUOTE=WildRose;101417191]We shall see. Sadly I believe that Politics became the driving force in his arrest and being charged.

    They judge didn't review the evidence, he simply acted on the recommendation of the Prosecutor and the Defense did not challenge it.[/QUOTE]

    how do you know this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WildRose View Post
    Nothing has been shown which indicates Zimmerman gave Martin any "orders".
    nor did freemind say that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WildRose View Post
    Wrong.



    At the March 26th press conference the SPD confirmed that the evidence supported Zimmerman's claim he was returning to his truck when attacked by Martin.


    Both of the above have been linked to many, many times in this thread.
    it's no longer march 26.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WildRose View Post
    Well maybe he actually read the headline of the cited article.




    Reading can be very informative.
    indeed it can. especially when you take a sentence out of article an imply something different than what it said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgdp View Post
    Is there evidence that the judge didn't review the evidence?
    He read what the SA gave him which was just a charging affadavit.

    You don't put your whole case on during a preliminary hearing unless you're Perry Mason.

    There's no way on earth he had time to review all of the evidence in the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reflechissez View Post
    it's no longer march 26.
    There you go with that amazing grasp of the obvious again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by reflechissez View Post
    nor did freemind say that.


    Originally Posted by freemind
    Do you stop and obey every random person in the street?
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    Quote Originally Posted by reflechissez View Post
    1. i don't see a press release on the website.

    2. stating that the evidence supports z's version, is not the same thing as knowing what z's version is.
    Then you didn't read it.

    I posted it.

    As for number two, the spokesman asked specifically abou the Sentinel article which detailed out that Zimmerman was attacked while returning to his vehicle. The Spokesman confirmed that the evidence was consistent with that version of events.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WildRose View Post
    He read what the SA gave him which was just a charging affadavit.

    You don't put your whole case on during a preliminary hearing unless you're Perry Mason.

    There's no way on earth he had time to review all of the evidence in the case.
    So... you don't have any evidence. Gotcha. Thanks. Point completely dismissed from any further discussion.

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