March 2nd, 2012, 12:17 am #16
In the case of the mind, we don't extract the bad parts. The work requires the patient's participation.
Dentists usually numb the tooth for an hour or two. Psychiatrists numb the whole mind for months or years at a time, preventing any real work from getting done, as the patient is in no condition to be objective.The old system of lesser gods and goddesses is the dualistic sublimation of fear into sexuality. Whereas monistic equality in Christ is not born of fear and of the flesh, but of love.
March 2nd, 2012, 7:49 am #17I find atheist to be most illogical, constantly engaged in a logical fallacy, trying to prove a negative.
March 2nd, 2012, 8:14 am #18
March 2nd, 2012, 8:30 am #19
I am recovering from my second sprained shoulder muscle in as many months. I took Tylenol for about 3 days to get through. It hurt even when I didn't move, and made sleep impossible.
I cannot imagine what life is like for those experiencing chronic pain.
I have had several family members who have experienced depression at some point. None that I know use use meds for it on a long-term basis.
I imagine, though, that there can be an organic reason for depression, aside from a chemical imbalance. Chronic pain can be depressing. Other medical conditions can be depressing, some can be treated without medicine, some cannot.
March 2nd, 2012, 9:53 am #20
one should never medicate for something that is not medical. I am severly depressed not because of chemicals but because life sucks, pills won't fix that.Calling illegal aliens "undocumented workers" is like calling drug dealers "unlicensed pharmacists"
March 2nd, 2012, 10:23 am #21
Lucky for me...you have to have feelings before you can become depressed.Friendly Neighborhood...Smyrnaman
March 2nd, 2012, 3:39 pm #22
I have a confession to make. I am clinically classified as a schitozphrenic delusional with suicidal tendencies: i.e. truly "5150," a danger to myself and society.
I don't hate Catholocism nor Catholic people. I guess I have a resentment that my parish hierarchy suggested a Catholic "mental facility (hospital)."
I went and all they did was give us meds 3 times a day and played checkers....and I even took up smoking cigarettes there because there with nothing to do when we are doped up.
I was against the drugs because they gave you one, and one for the side effects of the first and a third for the side effects of the second...not to mention that they didn't have any Bible studies, only chapel on Sunday.
I walked out against medical advice and was ushered by my family to a rehabilitation Bible home. Inotherwords, a "Radical Christian" or "Men's Bible Home. (aka Pentecostal)."
So to wind it up, here is the drug that God recommended:
Mat 6:25 "Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more important than food, and the body more important than clothes?
Mat 6:26 Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they?
Mat 6:27 Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life
Mat 6:28 "And why do you worry about clothes? See how the lilies of the field grow. They do not labor or spin.
Mat 6:29 Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these.
Mat 6:30 If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith?
Mat 6:31 So do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?'
Mat 6:32 For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them.
Mat 6:33 But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.
Mat 6:34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.
They definitely help me sleep through the night an avoid any king of panic-attack.
Sorry about the unusally long read from me.
March 2nd, 2012, 4:00 pm #23
March 2nd, 2012, 4:37 pm #24
The name of some meds can be deceptive as they may serve multiple purposes. For example, some anti depressants also have a purpose as migraine preventive. Migraines, from my direct experience, can be an extremely painful, incapacitating problem.
I would say to a Christian or non Christian examine your motives before going the pharmaceutical route. I learned the concept of "examining one's motives" from a friend 20 years ago.
Is the person--in this thread, the Christian--going this route hoping for a quick fix? A total elimination of grief in an event where it is natural, and what should be felt naturally now may come back later? Nix the idea of anti depressants.
If, however, they are at a point of grief where they are having trouble regularly eating or sleeping, or their habits in either have changed to the point where they are destructive, and they are going this route in addition to counseling with a minister, priest, or therapist with whom they feel comfortable, and they are looking at it as temporary, it may be worth the effort.
They should understand that life is never without difficulties of some sort, and should not use these therapies to substitute for prayer or to avoid God in their lives.
March 2nd, 2012, 5:02 pm #25The old system of lesser gods and goddesses is the dualistic sublimation of fear into sexuality. Whereas monistic equality in Christ is not born of fear and of the flesh, but of love.
March 2nd, 2012, 6:48 pm #26Banned BannedHannitized
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"Right"...? For some it should be compulsory..........
March 2nd, 2012, 7:29 pm #27
March 2nd, 2012, 7:36 pm #28
I'm also happy to hear that these have been worry-free years for you. Scripture is such a blessing.
March 2nd, 2012, 8:13 pm #29
Today, I read another article on a similar subject. While we may be more knowledgeable, is it true we are also more fragile--that we are afraid to suffer. The article was saying churches need to teach more about suffering.
March 2nd, 2012, 10:45 pm #30