Thread: Abortion Debate
February 26th, 2012, 4:28 pm #46
gotta go, abortion topics make me sick.To err is human. But to do it a second time, well thats a guy thing and usually involves trying to impress a girl.
February 26th, 2012, 4:30 pm #47Calling illegal aliens "undocumented workers" is like calling drug dealers "unlicensed pharmacists"
February 26th, 2012, 4:34 pm #48
that premature baby, if the mother's water hadn't broken 2 days before, would have still been in the womb, where some claim that she wasn't human. The ONLY two differences in her and the 1 to 10 week baby in the womb is age and location. there is no "magic point" where she became human after her conception. She was a created human being at conception, created by the union of egg and sperm.
And believe me, your scenario would be preferable to death, however, those who call for abortion in the case of health to the mother call for the death of the baby, not the placing of the baby on life support. Partial birth abortion ring a bell?
Abortion is often based on how someone FEELS. Not on reality and facts.My biggest regret used to be not joining the Army. Now, it is that I ever met you.
February 26th, 2012, 4:37 pm #49
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February 26th, 2012, 4:45 pm #53
And what does a guy masturbating have to do with anything? Obviously, a sperm that meets no egg isn't going to form new life. Also quite obvious if a fertilized embryo cannot implant, it cannot live.
There are exceptions to every rule, but some want open unfettered access to abortion, and it isn't generally the exceptions the "pro choice" are arguing in favor of having this unrestricted access, but the majority who didn't think to practice birth control or keep their members to themselves.
February 26th, 2012, 4:45 pm #54
February 26th, 2012, 4:50 pm #55
don't you know that women should be able to do anything they damn well please, even if it means killing another human being inside their body?
I have the utmost compassion for anyone in a position where they feel they need an abortion. I understand how scary it is finding out you are pregnant, even when you want to be, and if your S.O is a jerk, or your parents aren't supportive, or even God forbid, you become pregnant as a result of rape or incest. But feelings and situations are no cause for deliberate killing. Where I get angry is the unreasoned defense of this killing and support of treating women like they are idiots.
btw, your post was awesome.My biggest regret used to be not joining the Army. Now, it is that I ever met you.
February 26th, 2012, 5:15 pm #56Banned BannedHannitized
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If they are human, we can not kill them just because they were concieved in rape. The unborn entitiy is not the aggressor, the rapist was. The unborn is just as much an innocent victim as its mother. We have to ask how we should treat innocent human beings who remind us of a painful event. Just as we can not kill a two year old who reminds us of a painful event, we can not kill the unborn for the same reason.
The pro-lifer is not forcing the woman to carry her child, the rapist is. We just don't want to see another injustice done.
On the second statement, you are confusing parts with wholes. Unlike the embryo, which is already a whole human organism, sperm and egg are merly parts of a larger human organism. An embryo has the capacity to develop into a fetus, infant, toddler, teenager, and a adult. In the case of the sperm and egg, each dies in the act of contributing its part to the makeup of a new, whole living organism- the embryo.
It makes no sense to say you were once a sperm or a somatic cell. However, the facts of science make clear that you were once a human embryo.
February 26th, 2012, 5:18 pm #57
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February 26th, 2012, 5:26 pm #60
Leave them where they are, and they will continue to live. LIVE. They are alive at that point. Fully alive and thriving in their natural environment. Expecting them to continue to live in some other environment is as absurd as someone shoving you in a liquid uterine-like environment and expecting you to live.
The concept of "viability" people seem to want to use for "letting" a baby live is rooted in ignorance of the developmental stages of the human life. The fetus is perfectly viable where it is. Leave it there. And don't argue for killing it.... deliver us from evil.