NBC's HEROES!!

[Snoogins182]

I just watched the first episode and I loved it. You only get to see like half of the characters but it is so cool. Already there is so much foreshadowing. Plus the cliffhanger. I only had a problem with the mirror lady. I really don't understand her power. And the invulnerable girl was kind of whiny.

[cyph3r7]

?? I thought it wasn?t on till tomorrow.....

[Snoogins182]

?? I thought it wasn?t on till tomorrow.....

At yahoo you can see the first episode. I will still be watching it tomorrow so that I can catch things that I missed.

[cyph3r7]

oh oh ok...whew I was about to get ****ed thought my tivo was lying to me ;)

[cyph3r7]

fyi love your avi...cant wait for clerks 2 ti hit DVD...funniest movie I have seen in a long long time

[Snoogins182]

fyi love your avi...cant wait for clerks 2 ti hit DVD...funniest movie I have seen in a long long time

December 5th......can't wait.

If anyone wants to watch the first episode of Heroes here is the link:

http://tv.yahoo.com/feature/fall06/?d=503

[Snoogins182]

Anyone who has seen this episode or read about it:

What is the extent of the mirror girls powers?

[ImNewHere]

Two words. Ali Freaking Larter.

OK. That was three words.

[JazzyJH33]

This is the most anticipated new show of the season for me...I really hope it doesn't disappoint (as Six Degrees did). I think I'll wait for the official premiere tomorrow night though...

[Snoogins182]

This is the most anticipated new show of the season for me...I really hope it doesn't disappoint (as Six Degrees did). I think I'll wait for the official premiere tomorrow night though...

So far the first episode has not disapointed, it has left so many cliffhangers. I can not wait til next monday.

[Vic Daring]

This show looks great.

Here's the problem.

It's up against MNF. And, in a few months, will be in direct competition with 24.

I think I'm gonna have to give it a miss.

[FidelisAdMortem]

MNF = overrated.

[uncledoom]

This show looks great.

Here's the problem.

It's up against MNF. And, in a few months, will be in direct competition with 24.

I think I'm gonna have to give it a miss.

Tape Heros, watch 24, flick to MNF during commercials...

[Daneel Olivaw]

The first episode was cool but I could not get over the blatantly obvious X-Men rip off.

[Snoogins182]

What is MNF?

Also what ripoff was there of x-men? Other than the healing girl?

[FidelisAdMortem]

What is MNF?



Monday Night Football.

[Snoogins182]

Monday Night Football.

Just check the scores on tuesday and watch Heroes on monday....makes sense to me. lol

[Åztaz]

December 5th......can't wait.

If anyone wants to watch the first episode of Heroes here is the link:

http://tv.yahoo.com/feature/fall06/?d=503

Does that link work for anyone? It keeps loading for me, but never plays.

[Snoogins182]

Does that link work for anyone? It keeps loading for me, but never plays.

Hmm.....It was working last night but seems to not be working now. That's odd.

[Snoogins182]

The revolution begins in an hour!

[mkh]

X-men without costumes. Interesting.

[Snoogins182]

X-men without costumes. Interesting.

How is this x-men?

[uncledoom]

Watching it now...interesting stuff.

[GregMartin]

Ahhh the mirror chick.... isn't it obvious what her "special purpose" is....

No, but the "mirror thing" is this: Her reflection is an independent being living on the reflecting surface.

[uncledoom]

The cliff hanger is tight!!

[Snoogins182]

Ahhh the mirror chick.... isn't it obvious what her "special purpose" is....

No, but the "mirror thing" is this: Her reflection is an independent being living on the reflecting surface.

So her mirror self killed the mob menbers reflections thus killing them? If so thats awesome.

[GregMartin]

Yep.

[JazzyJH33]

I like it. It's right down my alley--smart dramas are my niche. It's not LOST-good, atleast not yet, but I definitely see a lot of potential in this show. It wasn't better than I expected, but wasn't worse. Obviously it's hard to judge a series by one episode, but this is probably the best new show of the season.

[bodecea]

So far so good 45 minutes into the first episode.

[ImNewHere]

It's not LOST-good

Saw a commercial for the new season during the game. Looking forward to it.

Bummer about this show, though. When it started at 8:00, the TiVo switched to the show from the game. Couldn't get back to the game unless I canceled recording. Maybe I'll get to see it online, like some other networks are doing with their shows.

[bodecea]

please don't let this be like Dark Angel or X Files...

[KWJams]

:rolleyes: After watching the ESPN crew fawning over Spike Lee (gag-choke) I started watching Heroes when a sudden desire to spend the rest of the evening clipping my toenails seemed to be time better spent.:whistle:

What a dumb concept for a show. :sick:

One guy teleports himself into the womens rest room. Another guy thinks that he can fly and his Mother gets arrested for shop lifting socks?:think:

[Snoogins182]

One guy teleports himself into the womens rest room. Another guy thinks that he can fly and his Mother gets arrested for shop lifting socks?:think:

Isn't that awesome?

Did you not like Spiderman the movie because it seems to be the same concept there....people developing thier powers.

[uncledoom]

:rolleyes: After watching the ESPN crew fawning over Spike Lee (gag-choke) I started watching Heroes when a sudden desire to spend the rest of the evening clipping my toenails seemed to be time better spent.:whistle:

What a dumb concept for a show. :sick:

One guy teleports himself into the womens rest room. Another guy thinks that he can fly and his Mother gets arrested for shop lifting socks?:think:

Oh well...keep on clippin'

[KWJams]

Isn't that awesome?

Did you not like Spiderman the movie because it seems to be the same concept there....people developing thier powers.

Let me guess what the taxi driver guys power will be :think:

"Bad Odor Man" since the only thing that he seemed to do was look more scroungy in each scene.

Hey,, if you all enjoyed it that is great. :rolleyes:

[Snoogins182]

Let me guess what the taxi driver guys power will be :think:

"Bad Odor Man" since the only thing that he seemed to do was look more scroungy in each scene.

Hey,, if you all enjoyed it that is great. :rolleyes:

I don't believe he will have powers. He's the guy that is going to help them all.

[bodecea]

I don't believe he will have powers. He's the guy that is going to help them all.

It looks like they are all linked together in some way too....except for the one in Vegas...but her son...:think:

[KWJams]

Was the "addict artist" a positive role to be on a TV show?

[Snoogins182]

It looks like they are all linked together in some way too....except for the one in Vegas...but her son...:think:

Yeah maybe they are linked because of his father. There is a lot of father conflict going on in this show.

[Snoogins182]

Was the "addict artist" a positive role to be on a TV show?

Does that really matter?

[JazzyJH33]

Was the "addict artist" a positive role to be on a TV show?

This is your third hate post in this thread...perhaps it's time for you to go away. We all have different tastes, but just because you don't like it doesn't make us wrong and deserving of multiple condescending and sarcastic posts.

[uncledoom]

Was the "addict artist" a positive role to be on a TV show?

Are you one of those people that will continue to watch something even though you hate it?

[mkh]

How is this x-men?

Group of people with superhuman powers that try to save the world. Seems like x-men tto me.

To add. Not that it's a bad thing. I watched bit's and peices last night and looks cool. May be my Monday night show.

[Snoogins182]

Group of people with superhuman powers that try to save the world. Seems like x-men tto me.

That is not the only group of super heroes to go around fighting. It's not somthing new I'll give you that, but it is not a rip-off of the x-men.

[mkh]

That is not the only group of super heroes to go around fighting. It's not somthing new I'll give you that, but it is not a rip-off of the x-men.

It's not a rip off, jsut similar, like a lot of other superhero bits, but, it's different enough and seems to be suspensful enough not to just lean on the powers. Looks cool.

[JimGP20]

I caught the premiere last night, and thought it looked pretty interesting. I like the teleportation guy. He wants to be a super hero. :) The ending was also very unexpected..... to see that the cheerleader's dad is the same guy who may have killed the cabbie's dad. Should be a good show.

[Snoogins182]

It's on right now if anyone missed it.

[Snoogins182]

It looks like they are all linked together in some way too....except for the one in Vegas...but her son...:think:

I just remembered that the teleporting guy's friend was watching her on the internet.

[ImNewHere]

I just remembered that the teleporting guy's friend was watching her on the internet.

I'd watch Ali Larter on the Internet if I could find that site!!! She's smokin' hot!

I think I'll watch one more episode. If Ali Larter doesn't get totally nude, or the story lines more interesting, it might be the last time I watch it. A lot of hype for this movie. Even saw a trailer for it in the theater.

I'm not sure it lived up to the expectations they created. But I'll give it another shot.

[KWJams]

This is your third hate post in this thread...perhaps it's time for you to go away. We all have different tastes, but just because you don't like it doesn't make us wrong and deserving of multiple condescending and sarcastic posts.

Get a hold of yourself :rolleyes:

Let's see what redeeming social values this show has so far:

We have a single mom stripping for intenet perverts to put her gifted son through school as if that is the only way for her to earn a living -- that and her hustling mobsters.

We have a guy that is being fit into some racial stereotype of an unwashed cab driver in New York City.

We have a crooked politician using some political capital to sweep under the rug criminal charges against his mother who was arrested for shop lifting socks.

We have an addict the receives futuristic revelations while stoned on heroin.

We have some bummed out guy that is lost and decides to throw himself off a building to see if he can fly.

Hey,,, if decadent behavior is what trips your trigger --- then by all means enjoy it. ;) Hollywood must know that there is a market out there to peddle this sort of trash too.

[Snoogins182]

Get a hold of yourself :rolleyes:

Let's see what redeeming social values this show has so far:

We have a single mom stripping for intenet perverts to put her gifted son through school as if that is the only way for her to earn a living -- that and her hustling mobsters.

We have a guy that is being fit into some racial stereotype of an unwashed cab driver in New York City.

We have a crooked politician using some political capital to sweep under the rug criminal charges against his mother who was arrested for shop lifting socks.

We have an addict the receives futuristic revelations while stoned on heroin.

We have some bummed out guy that is lost and decides to throw himself off a building to see if he can fly.

Hey,,, if decadent behavior is what trips your trigger --- then by all means enjoy it. ;) Hollywood must know that there is a market out there to peddle this sort of trash too.


Why are you posting on this thread if you don't like the show. That's fine if you don't like it but you don't have to ruin it for the rest of us.

[SarahG]

I thought the storylines were a little dull but I do want to know how they are connected and exactly why they are drawn to NY. I'll watch a little more as well.

[Vic Daring]

Get a hold of yourself :rolleyes:

Let's see what redeeming social values this show has so far:

We have a single mom stripping for intenet perverts to put her gifted son through school as if that is the only way for her to earn a living -- that and her hustling mobsters.

We have a guy that is being fit into some racial stereotype of an unwashed cab driver in New York City.

We have a crooked politician using some political capital to sweep under the rug criminal charges against his mother who was arrested for shop lifting socks.

We have an addict the receives futuristic revelations while stoned on heroin.

We have some bummed out guy that is lost and decides to throw himself off a building to see if he can fly.

Hey,,, if decadent behavior is what trips your trigger --- then by all means enjoy it. ;) Hollywood must know that there is a market out there to peddle this sort of trash too.

Dude.

Go watch Full House re-runs.

Or buy Season 1 of The Waltons on DVD.

Or something.

[uncledoom]

Get a hold of yourself :rolleyes:

Let's see what redeeming social values this show has so far:

We have a single mom stripping for intenet perverts to put her gifted son through school as if that is the only way for her to earn a living -- that and her hustling mobsters.

We have a guy that is being fit into some racial stereotype of an unwashed cab driver in New York City.

We have a crooked politician using some political capital to sweep under the rug criminal charges against his mother who was arrested for shop lifting socks.

We have an addict the receives futuristic revelations while stoned on heroin.

We have some bummed out guy that is lost and decides to throw himself off a building to see if he can fly.

Hey,,, if decadent behavior is what trips your trigger --- then by all means enjoy it. ;) Hollywood must know that there is a market out there to peddle this sort of trash too.

So you will be watching next week. See you then!

[KWJams]

Why are you posting on this thread if you don't like the show. That's fine if you don't like it but you don't have to ruin it for the rest of us.

I responded in an "open forum" where opinions were asked from others. As a anything goes libertarian why do you care?

My opinion is that the show has shown little value as far as being uplifting and moral.

The show does seem to poke a sharp stick at social stereotypes and the reactions here is politically revealing. :rolleyes:

As a real world example:
"Hey why should we be concerned if some despot on the other side of the planet is committing genocide as long as we don't have to smell the rotting corpses!"

Hollywoods example:
"Hey, if the message some kids may get from this show is that by using heroin a person can be a super hero and receive futuristic visions."

Like I said -- what ever trips your trigger. ;)

[LeroyBrown]

Get a hold of yourself :rolleyes:

Let's see what redeeming social values this show has so far:

We have a single mom stripping for intenet perverts to put her gifted son through school as if that is the only way for her to earn a living -- that and her hustling mobsters.

We have a guy that is being fit into some racial stereotype of an unwashed cab driver in New York City.

We have a crooked politician using some political capital to sweep under the rug criminal charges against his mother who was arrested for shop lifting socks.

We have an addict the receives futuristic revelations while stoned on heroin.

We have some bummed out guy that is lost and decides to throw himself off a building to see if he can fly.

Hey,,, if decadent behavior is what trips your trigger --- then by all means enjoy it. ;) Hollywood must know that there is a market out there to peddle this sort of trash too.

The guy who's driving the cab is taking over where his father left off. His dad was a gifted genetic researcher that was discredited for his "out there" theories like the ones his son was spouting at the beginning of the show. After loosing his position his father sets off tracking the equivalent of "patient zero", the first homosuperior in x-men jargon. My guess is that we will discover that the father was discredited because of the usual government forces wanting to either control, contain or eliminate the mutants and he was getting too close to the truth.

I need to watch it again but I believe the addict was using heroin to keep from having the visions he was painting. Been wrong before though.

The bummed out guy believes that he can fly because he sees the paintings and relizes that the addict was painting future events that came true. He decides to jump because he misinterprets what the painting of him means. It's not too much of a cliff hanger as you see him lying in the hospital bed in the previews for next week.

The politician that finds out he can fly will probably start off trying to use his ability to further his political career and will have a moment of truth where he stops thinking about advancing himself; probably after the death of his brother.

The stripper will probably wind up being some kind of anti-hero that has to gain control of what ever that mirror persona is called after exacting revenge on those that tried to screw her over and will discover that it is a reflection of her own character.

[uncledoom]

I responded in an "open forum" where opinions were asked from others. As a anything goes libertarian why do you care?

My opinion is that the show has shown little value as far as being uplifting and moral.

The show does seem to poke a sharp stick at social stereotypes and the reactions here is politically revealing. :rolleyes:

As a real world example:
"Hey why should we be concerned if some despot on the other side of the planet is committing genocide as long as we don't have to smell the rotting corpses!"

Hollywoods example:
"Hey, if the message some kids may get from this show is that by using heroin a person can be a super hero and receive futuristic visions."

Like I said -- what ever trips your trigger. ;)

Opinion noted. The problem is that your opinions seem to be based on not really watching the show to understand whats going on. You seem to be more concerned that "oh gosh...theres a stripper with a child", or "someone is using heroin". Your tidbit about the cab driver obviously showed that you didn't really watch/listen to the show. But that's ok. Most people on this thread probably realize your opinions are baseless anyway.

[KWJams]

Opinion noted. The problem is that your opinions seem to be based on not really watching the show to understand whats going on. You seem to be more concerned that "oh gosh...theres a stripper with a child", or "someone is using heroin". Your tidbit about the cab driver obviously showed that you didn't really watch/listen to the show. But that's ok. Most people on this thread probably realize your opinions are baseless anyway.

Your comprehension skills are lacking or you would have read a long time ago in this thread where I ended up clipping my toenails instead of watching the show. :rolleyes:

[Iggy]

My opinion is that the show has shown little value as far as being uplifting and moral.
I wasn't aware that the creators of the show ever suggested it was supposed to be.

The show does seem to poke a sharp stick at social stereotypes and the reactions here is politically revealing. :rolleyes: The "unwashed" cab driver is a genetisist looking into the murder of his father. I don't see the stereotype there.

What is revealing is that you assumed the middle-eastern cab driver would be called "Bad Odor Man". Racist much?

[uncledoom]

Your comprehension skills are lacking or you would have read a long time ago in this thread where I ended up clipping my toenails instead of watching the show. :rolleyes:

Interesting....because from what I read in subsequent posts after your first one, you watched the entire show while clipping your toe nails. The lost person who jumped off the roof happened at the end of the show.

[KWJams]

I wasn't aware that the creators of the show ever suggested it was supposed to be.

The "unwashed" cab driver is a genetisist looking into the murder of his father. I don't see the stereotype there.

What is revealing is that you assumed the middle-eastern cab driver would be called "Bad Odor Man". Racist much?

The name of the show is what? "Heroes"
Maybe your heroes come from the dregs of society but mine are from the roles of first responders and leaders who possess moral integrity.

I recall something about stories in the news and it wasn't to long ago about New York Cabbies were being fined by the city if they were stinky. So the movie is the ones playing on the stereotype.

[uncledoom]

The name of the show is what? "Heroes"
Maybe your heroes come from the dregs of society but mine are from the roles of first responders and leaders who possess moral integrity.

So your beef is with the title of the show? :))

I recall something about stories in the news and it wasn't to long ago about New York Cabbies were being fined by the city if they were stinky. So the movie is the ones playing on the stereotype.:eh:

[Iggy]

The name of the show is what? "Heroes"
Maybe your heroes come from the dregs of society but mine are from the roles of first responders and leaders who possess moral integrity.

I recall something about stories in the news and it wasn't to long ago about New York Cabbies were being fined by the city if they were stinky. So the movie is the ones playing on the stereotype.
Well, thats strange.

NBC puts a middle-eastern man in the position of brilliant genetisist who is one of the main protagonists. You decide that he's "unwashed", "scroungy looking" and should be called "Bad Odor Man". And yet you claim THEY are the ones playing on stereotypes.

Are you sure you're not just projecting your own racism where there was no racism? Maybe you should examine your own moral integrity.

[Snoogins182]

I responded in an "open forum" where opinions were asked from others. As a anything goes libertarian why do you care?

Being a Libertarian does not mean that I do not care. Being a libertarian does not mean i am apathetic. I simply asked why you keep posting here since you do not seem to like this series. I did not tell you to leave. That would have gone against being a libertarian.

[Gray]

Itunes......$1.99

[Snoogins182]

Itunes......$1.99

That might get pricey if you want the whole first season.

[bodecea]

Well, thats strange.

NBC puts a middle-eastern man in the position of brilliant genetisist who is one of the main protagonists. You decide that he's "unwashed", "scroungy looking" and should be called "Bad Odor Man". And yet you claim THEY are the ones playing on stereotypes.

Are you sure you're not just projecting your own racism where there was no racism? Maybe you should examine your own moral integrity.

He's Indian.

[Snoogins182]

New Heroes on tonight. Saw the previews and I can't wait.

[Gray]

That might get pricey if you want the whole first season.
I can handle two dollars a week.

Actually four since I buy Eureka, also.

[KWJams]

He's Indian.


So am I :neutral:

[Snoogins182]

So am I :neutral:

And you are offended that he is portrayed as a very intelligent man?

[ImNewHere]

DVR is set to record during the game. I really hope to see more of Ali Larter... if you know what I mean. ;)

I know. I'm obsessed. And I refuse help.

[KWJams]

And you are offended that he is portrayed as a very intelligent man?

Are you offended when libertarians are always considered to be cowardly types that are unable to choose a side to take on issues and they claim to be middle ground moderates but are really nothing but folks who want their drug habits legalized and to be able to safely poke both sides in the eye. :eek:

Does that offend you? :question:

[Snoogins182]

Are you offended when libertarians are always considered to be cowardly types that are unable to choose a side to take on issues and they claim to be middle ground moderates but are really nothing but folks who want their drug habits legalized and to be able to safely poke both sides in the eye. :eek:

Does that offend you? :question:

What are you talking about?

[Snoogins182]

Wow this episode was awesome.....showed the villian.

The ending was a bit weird. Can hiro not teleport and only go into the future or past in order to move?

[ImNewHere]

Wow this episode was awesome.....showed the villian.

The ending was a bit weird. Can hiro not teleport and only go into the future or past in order to move?

Uh. Oh. Those of us on the Left Coast better ignore this thread until after the show.

[uncledoom]

Wow this episode was awesome.....showed the villian.

The ending was a bit weird. Can hiro not teleport and only go into the future or past in order to move?

I'm wondering the same thing. Apparently the crap hits the fan after election day so it looks like this could be a fast moving show.

This villan is pretty creepy. Freezing those two people and sawing their heads off...definitely original.

[uncledoom]

Are you offended when libertarians are always considered to be cowardly types that are unable to choose a side to take on issues and they claim to be middle ground moderates but are really nothing but folks who want their drug habits legalized and to be able to safely poke both sides in the eye. :eek:

Does that offend you? :question:

Are you getting enough oxygen in your space craft?

[bearweav]

I cant wait tell next week, I love this show. It's like Lost or Smallville, I just hate that it ends, want More! MORE! MORE!

[Snoogins182]

I'm wondering the same thing. Apparently the crap hits the fan after election day so it looks like this could be a fast moving show.

This villan is pretty creepy. Freezing those two people and sawing their heads off...definitely original.

Can't forget that he does something with the brains too

[uncledoom]

Also...is the villan responsible for the armageddon? Can't wait until next week..

[JazzyJH33]

I must say, I LOVED this episode. I wasn't 100% sold last week, but this ep was killer. Looks like they have five weeks until BOOM--I like this twist a lot. I am a bit surprised at how much has been revealed after just two episodes, though--very unusual for its kind. I'm feelin' most of the characters, especially Hiro. How can you not? LOL, his raw innocent determination really puts a smile on the viewer's face, the guy is so likable. The other story lines are very compelling as well...and the cheerleader/evil dad story gets weirder and creepier as it unfolds...

Anyhow, I'm really feeling this show now. Great ep, can't wait to see where they take this.

[ImNewHere]

OK. What's up with Ali Larter's character? Some reflection in a mirror killed the mob guys, put them in the trunk of the convertable, cleaned up the garage and led her to a skeleton in the desert.

I think what everyone else does is kind of clear. But I'm clueless about her.

Any theories or did I miss something?

[Snoogins182]

OK. What's up with Ali Larter's character? Some reflection in a mirror killed the mob guys, put them in the trunk of the convertable, cleaned up the garage and led her to a skeleton in the desert.

I think what everyone else does is kind of clear. But I'm clueless about her.

Any theories or did I miss something?

So far all i see with here is a split personality. To me that's no super power that's a mental disorder. Maybe it will be shown soon as to the extent of her powers. I'm only confused about her powers and Hiro's powers. Everyone else's seem straight forward.

[bodecea]

Wow this episode was awesome.....showed the villian.

The ending was a bit weird. Can hiro not teleport and only go into the future or past in order to move?

Ah...but IS he the villain?

[Snoogins182]

Ah...but IS he the villain?

No of course not, he has no idea what's going on. Plus he's the one that said he had to use his powers for good.

[Gray]

This villan is pretty creepy. Freezing those two people and sawing their heads off...definitely original.

I have no doubt the missing brains will be on some future episode. Perhaps attached to some device to access their powers.

[Snoogins182]

I have no doubt the missing brains will be on some future episode. Perhaps attached to some device to access their powers.

Maybe he just eats them because that message he left said he had a hunger.

[uncledoom]

I read an article in TV Guide that breaks down everyone's powers. The politician's brother can't really fly.....per se. He absorbs the powers from the people around him. That explains why he was having visions of flying. He was hanging around the guy who sees into the future.

[Thabin]

So far all i see with here is a split personality. To me that's no super power that's a mental disorder. Maybe it will be shown soon as to the extent of her powers. I'm only confused about her powers and Hiro's powers. Everyone else's seem straight forward.Mirror chick, I think, is insane. She "thinks" she sees her reflection as alive, but it isn't. Remember she was on her way over to get her son then ... hours later she's at the airport. I think SHE cleaned up the house, and some time before SHE buried those people in the desert. She's nutz and projects her hostile persona upon her reflection to avoid having to deal with the guilt of her actions.

Hiro is straight forward ... he bends space time. He can step forward, or backward in time, to any spot in the universe. I doubt for the sake of the show he will step outside the earth, or more than a few years in any direction, but really if you can bend space-time ... you could go anywhere at any time. Unless of course it was all his imagination while he was on the subway in Tokyo...

[Gray]

EWWWW!!!!

She woke up during her autopsy!

[Snoogins182]

Wow that was the best episode so far. Hiro is by far my favorite. He is so funny with his friend and that comic. Also I did not like how the cop delt with his wife. I think he should have told her about his day.

[uncledoom]

Todays episode was good. Its looking like this 'Sider' character is living up to the "evil" description.

[Gray]

http://www.nbc.com/Video/rewind/full_episodes/?show=heroes

[FranklySpeaking]

Well, thats strange.

NBC puts a middle-eastern man in the position of brilliant genetisist who is one of the main protagonists. You decide that he's "unwashed", "scroungy looking" and should be called "Bad Odor Man". And yet you claim THEY are the ones playing on stereotypes.
...

Me , I would call him a hottie !!

[ImNewHere]

EWWWW!!!!

She woke up during her autopsy!

You should know by now that she can't die. No matter what happens to her.

[bodecea]

Todays episode was good. Its looking like this 'Sider' character is living up to the "evil" description.

I don't believe this Sidler character is the cheerleader's father...he was in Odessa TX, wasn't he? But why does Sidler want that girl? But then again, if Sidler can go back and forth from NYC to LA...or not...who cleaned out his apartment?

I have my suspicions about the wealthy woman in NY...the one who loved the junkie and is now kissing the kid who was taking care of her father.

And I also don't trust the girl who's hanging with the Indian scientist...the one who supposedly was friends with his father.

And I don't believe the father is dead...seen his picture on the book, he's a fairly well known character actor...they didn't get him JUST for a picture on a book.

[Snoogins182]

And I don't believe the father is dead...seen his picture on the book, he's a fairly well known character actor...they didn't get him JUST for a picture on a book.

That actually makes sense.

And who was in LA? Is that where the cop is?

[bodecea]

That actually makes sense.

And who was in LA? Is that where the cop is?

Yes, I believe so.

[Ithaca is George's]

So aparently this Sider character has a number of different powers - although he could just have a very powerful telekentic ability.

It got me wondering - especially after last week with Hiro finding the artist guy with his head removed - if Sider is tracking them down to steal their powers?

[uncledoom]

So aparently this Sider character has a number of different powers - although he could just have a very powerful telekentic ability.

It got me wondering - especially after last week with Hiro finding the artist guy with his head removed - if Sider is tracking them down to steal their powers?

Thats very possible. I'm thinking the professor's father had something to do with cyder going on a rampage...or maybe cyder is the professor's father:think:

[Gray]

Thats very possible. I'm thinking the professor's father had something to do with cyder going on a rampage...or maybe cyder is the professor's father:think:

Using him to locate the others?

[Gray]

Does everyone realize that you can watch the last show online?

At NBC?

[Snoogins182]

Does everyone realize that you can watch the last show online?

At NBC?

Yeah but I want to find the first episode.

[Gray]

Yeah but I want to find the first episode.

It was available on Itunes, but they yanked it.


A St. Louis-area garbage disposal maker has filed a federal lawsuit telling NBC not to rebroadcast the pilot episode of the new show “Heroes.”

In a lawsuit filed Monday in U.S. District Court in St. Louis, Ferguson-based Emerson claims NBC Universal Television Studios didn’t have permission to use the company’s In-Sink-Erator brand disposal.

In last week’s pilot show about ordinary people with superhero abilities, a woman with gets her hand mangled by an Emerson-brand disposal.

The lawsuit claims the scene “casts the disposer in an unsavory light, irreparably tarnishing the product.”

Stupid.

[Snoogins182]

It was available on Itunes, but they yanked it.



Stupid.

Wow that lawsuit better not go in his favor. I know when I saw that scene all I could think about was how that Emerson disposal was such a bad disposal. My focus wasn't drawn towards that bloody, mangled hand that came from it.

[iamredbeard]

This show look really good, but since it is on monday night I haven't been watching it. Maybe will catch some ephisodes after football season is over.

[Gray]

Wow that lawsuit better not go in his favor. I know when I saw that scene all I could think about was how that Emerson disposal was such a bad disposal. My focus wasn't drawn towards that bloody, mangled hand that came from it.

I hope NBC cleans their clock....


Here is something else to look for.
We got to see Isaac’s (the painter/prophet) loft which was amazing for the simple fact that legendary artist Tim Sale had done all of the artwork including an interesting mural on the floor depicting an explosion of some sort (sorry, I’m not going to go into detail). Another thing that was interesting was a specific symbol that appeared in Isaac’s loft, and in various other locations throughout the other cast members home’s. We were told that this symbol would play a key part in the show, but we weren’t given specifics as to what it was.

I saw it. Looks like a sine wave or half of a DNA. I suspect some kind of link between all of the characters.

[Snoogins182]

This show look really good, but since it is on monday night I haven't been watching it. Maybe will catch some ephisodes after football season is over.

Could watch it on NBC.com on tuesdays.

[Listen3HoursADay]

Great show!

[iamredbeard]

Could watch it on NBC.com on tuesdays.


I got dial-up, so that makes things patheticall slow. I saw the season permeir of USA and it looked good.

[uncledoom]

Its not too late to get hooked..

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/story/461974p-388688c.html

More high-powered drama

'Heroes' keeps getting better

HEROES. Tonight at 9, NBC.
One of the biggest compliments a TV critic can pay to a weekly series - especially a show in its freshman season - is to add it to the already bloated list of must-watch programs. This year, the most surprising entrant on that elite list (earning a Season Pass on my TiVo DVR) is NBC's "Heroes."

What can I say? Based on the first three episodes (the last of which, with its killer autopsy-table cliffhanger, was televised last Monday), I gave "Heroes" a very supportive and enthusiastic three-star ranking. At the time, I thought I was going out on a limb, perhaps getting swept away by a show that hits all the right buttons of a former Marvel Comics-reading

kid who loves unpredictable and unusual television.

To my shock and delight, "Heroes" is one of the few serialized dramas embraced, rather than rejected, by the American public this season. Not only does "Heroes" improve substantially on its "Deal or No Deal" lead-in,

but after three weeks on the air, it has emerged as the top-rated new series in the all-important 18-49 age group. Last week, in that same category, it made the top 10 overall - not just against new series, but against all of them.

With "Smith" already pulled by CBS, and "Vanished" and "Kidnapped" banished to less competitive nights by Fox and NBC, respectively, the breakout success of "Heroes" is even more impressive. In one way, though, it makes sense. "Vanished" and "Kidnapped" sound like the same show (and were, essentially, though "Kidnapped" is far superior). And while NBC may have two shows about the making of a late-night sketch series, no one but NBC has a show this year about a bunch of ordinary people who find themselves suddenly endowed with extraordinary powers.

NBC has provided the next two shows for preview: tonight's "Chapter Four" (at 9), and next week's "Chapter Five." They're good enough to warrant a second review, with an extra half-star added. It's not too late to hop aboard this series, but if you wait any longer, you'll be missing out on a wild ride. (Each week, NBC makes the latest episode available free on its Web site, www.nbc.com).

The characters in "Heroes" still are coming to grips with the extent of their powers and how to use them. It's part of what makes them human, and a lot of what makes this show interesting. We know already, thanks to visions by two of the characters, that a nuclear blast is due to hit New York just after Election Day. But who's behind it? And how can our "Heroes" find each other in time, much less agree on the combined mission to prevent the disaster?

Sometimes they're tempted to use their new abilities for less than heroic ends, as when time-warping Hiro (Masi Oka) visits Las Vegas and manipulates the roulette wheel, or when cheerleader Claire (Hayden Panettiere), the girl with the astounding healing powers who found herself on the autopsy table last week, takes revenge on her attacker by taking him on the kind of drive usually reserved for crash-test dummies. Other times they're drawn, like animals in migration, to the same general direction.

"Heroes" contains too many enjoyable surprises to spoil any of them - but the paths of these people keep crossing, in much more entertaining a fashion than on, say, "Six Degrees." And yes, those cliffhanger endings are clear signatures now. Watch for them, wait for them, and enjoy them. Just like the rest of the show.

Originally published on October 16, 2006

[Snoogins182]

WOW!!! Hiro at the end. He has a samurai sword. And Peter has a scar in the future? What is the message. AHHHH I want next weeks episode now.

[WorldWatcher]

WOW!!! Hiro at the end. He has a samurai sword. And Peter has a scar in the future? What is the message. AHHHH I want next weeks episode now.


If you were Hiro you could.

:whistle: :whistle:

>>>>

[Snoogins182]

If you were Hiro you could.

:whistle: :whistle:

>>>>

He's so unstoppable.

[Gray]

episode one is availablle again on itunes.

For those who do not wish to use their credit card you may purchase a itunes gift card at wal-mart and other places.


I liked the part where the cheerleader made hamburger out of the rapist. Whaap!

[Gray]

I am not so sure the Apparent villian is really the bad guy.

[Snoogins182]

I am not so sure the Apparent villian is really the bad guy.

I think Sylar is still the bad guy. That painting showed the girls brain was removed. I still don't know who her father works for. Maybe he is in connection to Sylar but maybe he is.

[Gray]

I think Sylar is still the bad guy. That painting showed the girls brain was removed. I still don't know who her father works for. Maybe he is in connection to Sylar but maybe he is.

The black guy with him deletes memories. He completely wiped the rapist's mind.

HEh!

[Raidiant21]

I think Sylar is still the bad guy. That painting showed the girls brain was removed. I still don't know who her father works for. Maybe he is in connection to Sylar but maybe he is.

I think there are two villains. One would be Sylar, the stereotypical supervillain always around in comic books, and the other would be the father and the people he's working for and with, to whatever mysterious purpose they have, either eliminating mutants or studying them like particularly interesting bug specimens.

[bodecea]

Game ON!!!

[DRS]

This series rocks.

[bodecea]

Ok...the flying politician is a tad dishonest.


And the Vegas woman's husband ALSO has powers.

[Snoogins182]

Ok...the flying politician is a tad dishonest.


And the Vegas woman's husband ALSO has powers.

Well he is a politician. Yeah that dude can phase through walls. In the next epsiode I think we get a close up up Nikki's powers. She might have supper strength, because I saw her husband was thrown into a wall in one of the previews.

[HSMaxim]

I think you guys might be reading too much into her husbands "powers". She looked into a room and didn't see him, a moment later he was there, maybe he was hiding behind the door?

We'll see next week, maybe you guys are right.

[uncledoom]

I think you guys might be reading too much into her husbands "powers". She looked into a room and didn't see him, a moment later he was there, maybe he was hiding behind the door?

We'll see next week, maybe you guys are right.

The cops said that he escaped by somehow getting free from his cuffs somehow. Plus at the end of the show, he just appeared after the cops left....definitely a phaser.

[uncledoom]

Scorecard so far for those who want to catch up:

Heros:

A politician with jet like flying ability
His brother who absorbs other's powers
A cop that can read minds
An XXX webcam girl with dual personalities
Her husband that can phase through walls, etc
A time traveler w/ sidekick from Japan
An indestructable cheerleader (isn't funny she's always in her uniform...lol)
A drug addict who can see the future
The son of a scientist who is looking for the heroes but is losing faith in his search


Villans:
Cylar - Telekinetic serial killer who freezer his/her victims and may be eating their brains.

Unknown Parties

The Cheerleader's Dad - No known powers, seems to be tracking those with abilities but not really harming them.

His side kicker the mind wiper


The rally cry for the season: SAVE THE CHEERLEADER, SAVE THE WORLD.

[DRS]

Ok...the flying politician is a tad dishonest.


And the Vegas woman's husband ALSO has powers.

What makes him dishonest, the flying or the fact he is a politician?

[Mortis]

What makes him dishonest, the flying or the fact he is a politician?
The fact that's he's married and slept with Vegas Woman, and lied about his brother at a press conference.

[Snoogins182]

What makes him dishonest, the flying or the fact he is a politician?

Could be the fact that he is cheating on his wife. And he is running on a platform or morals.

[uncledoom]

Could be the fact that he is cheating on his wife. And he is running on a platform or morals.

On TV, doesn't dishonest translate to "flawed"?

[HSMaxim]

The cops said that he escaped by somehow getting free from his cuffs somehow. Plus at the end of the show, he just appeared after the cops left....definitely a phaser.Maybe he can turn into fluid or vapor?:cool:

[Snoogins182]

Maybe he can turn into fluid or vapor?:cool:

It's been established that he is a phaser. Just read the comic on NBC.com

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

Is the Vegas woman husband Syler? I was thinking about it last night as I watched the program. But maybe I am totally off here?

Also, Syler can take several hits from a Nine Mil, and get back up and run away? Sounds like this Syler is more then just passing through walls....can take a bullet too?

~Mysty

[Snoogins182]

Is the Vegas woman husband Syler? I was thinking about it last night as I watched the program. But maybe I am totally off here?

Also, Syler can take several hits from a Nine Mil, and get back up and run away? Sounds like this Syler is more then just passing through walls....can take a bullet too?

~Mysty

Sylar is not her husband. He husband is D.L. he just phases.

[Iggy]

Sylar is a future version of the politician's brother.


Politician's brother: Can use the powers of other powerful people he is near.

Sylar: Has exhibited some traits similar to those of the other Heroes including bizarre violence (Vegas chick), enhanced healing (cheerleader) and possibly mind-reading like the cop (How else did he manage to find the little girl at the police station?).

If, sometime in the future, all these Heroes band together, then the politician's brother would have near constant access to all their powers. This might overload him and drive him insane. He then uses the Japanese guy's time-travel ability to go back to the time when they were all first becoming aware of their abilities.


That's my crazy theory anyway. :whistle:

[Gray]

Could be the fact that he is cheating on his wife. And he is running on a platform or morals.

...And told his supporters that a two million dollar bribe was not enough...he wants four million.

[JediMindTrick]

I've always assumed that Sylar is absorbing other peoples powers by eating their brains.

The theory about Peter being Sylar and traveling through time makes my head hurt. Cool theory though.

[Snoogins182]

I've always assumed that Sylar is absorbing other peoples powers by eating their brains.

The theory about Peter being Sylar and traveling through time makes my head hurt. Cool theory though.

Maybe thats why they need to save the cheerleader. Once he gets that power they won't be able to stop him.

I read in an interview that we will see if there is a connection between horned-rim glasses man and sylar in episode 10.

[JediMindTrick]

Maybe thats why they need to save the cheerleader. Once he gets that power they won't be able to stop him.

I read in an interview that we will see if there is a connection between horned-rim glasses man and sylar in episode 10.

Actually now that you say that, you could be right. The painting that Peter drew last night seemed to show that Claire was missing the top of her head.

[JediMindTrick]

And am I the only one who can't help but think of Jar Jar Binks whenever Hiro appears? They have that same utterly annoying quality that totally takes away from whatever serious aspect the show is trying to have at the time.

I did really love Hiro from the future though.

[Snoogins182]

And am I the only one who can't help but think of Jar Jar Binks whenever Hiro appears? They have that same utterly annoying quality that totally takes away from whatever serious aspect the show is trying to have at the time.

I did really love Hiro from the future though.

I think Hiro does add a "Jar Jar" aspect in a way, but it is done well in this series. He is the comic relief in an otherwise very serious show. I feel he is needed to have that personality in order for him to be that successful of a character.

[Gray]

Actually now that you say that, you could be right. The painting that Peter drew last night seemed to show that Claire was missing the top of her head.

Assuming that Sylar kills the right cheerleader. The other annoying cheerleader took credit for her rescue of the fireman.....

[Gray]

Maybe thats why they need to save the cheerleader. Once he gets that power they won't be able to stop him.



Perhaps her ability to withstand radiation...

[bodecea]

I am VERY suspicious of the painter's girlfriend. And of the young woman hanging around the Indian scientist.


Suspect everyone...save the cheerleader, save the world.



(WOW! That's painful to say!)

[Gray]

I am VERY suspicious of the painter's girlfriend. And of the young woman hanging around the Indian scientist.




She is a plant placed to watch him....

[DRS]

The fact that's he's married and slept with Vegas Woman, and lied about his brother at a press conference.

Oh okay.

[Raidiant21]

I think you guys might be reading too much into her husbands "powers". She looked into a room and didn't see him, a moment later he was there, maybe he was hiding behind the door?

We'll see next week, maybe you guys are right.

The interview in the latest TV Guide with the creators said he definitely has powers.

[JediMindTrick]

The interview in the latest TV Guide with the creators said he definitely has powers.

He can phase through walls. His powers are revealed in the comic on the official site.

[Iggy]

He can phase through walls. His powers are revealed in the comic on the official site.
There was also a brief glimpse of him phasing during the previews for next week's episode.

[uncledoom]

He can phase through walls. His powers are revealed in the comic on the official site.

Interesting that it seems DL was framed for the murder of his running partner.

[Snoogins182]

Interesting that it seems DL was framed for the murder of his running partner.

And I have a theory that is was the mirror side of Nikki that did it.

[JediMindTrick]

Interesting that it seems DL was framed for the murder of his running partner.

I think its probably safe to say that Nikki's crazy half did it.

What I wonder is what happens to Peter when he first meets Nikki. Is her split personality part of her power or just a mental illness. Because if it is part of her power then it might drive Peter insane and could lend credence to the theory that Sylar is Peter from the future having used Hiro's time travel abilities to go back and kill all the Heroes before they become powerful enough to stop him.

[Snoogins182]

I think its probably safe to say that Nikki's crazy half did it.

What I wonder is what happens to Peter when he first meets Nikki. Is her split personality part of her power or just a mental illness. Because if it is part of her power then it might drive Peter insane and could lend credence to the theory that Sylar is Peter from the future having used Hiro's time travel abilities to go back and kill all the Heroes before they become powerful enough to stop him.

That may be part of a mental illness. I think Nikki may hav super strength. In one of the clips we see DL being thrown into a wall, so maybe she has that strength but only the mirror side knows about it.

[uncledoom]

That may be part of a mental illness. I think Nikki may hav super strength. In one of the clips we see DL being thrown into a wall, so maybe she has that strength but only the mirror side knows about it.

Now thats deep...

[Raidiant21]

I think its probably safe to say that Nikki's crazy half did it.

What I wonder is what happens to Peter when he first meets Nikki. Is her split personality part of her power or just a mental illness. Because if it is part of her power then it might drive Peter insane and could lend credence to the theory that Sylar is Peter from the future having used Hiro's time travel abilities to go back and kill all the Heroes before they become powerful enough to stop him.

But Peter doesn't appear to acquire any of the drawbacks of the powers when he borrows them. After all, Isaac can only paint the future when he's high, but Peter did it stone-cold sober. If Nikki's abilities are only triggered when she's in her other personality, that shouldn't stop Peter from borrowing them without the split personality thing.

[Snoogins182]

But Peter doesn't appear to acquire any of the drawbacks of the powers when he borrows them. After all, Isaac can only paint the future when he's high, but Peter did it stone-cold sober. If Nikki's abilities are only triggered when she's in her other personality, that shouldn't stop Peter from borrowing them without the split personality thing.

Maybe Issac can see the future without being drugged, he may have to harness the power first. Like maybe he has to learn the full power of his power.

[Gray]

Save the Cheerleader,...Save the Network!

[WorldWatcher]

Save the Cheerleader,...Save the Network!


:)) :)) :))

>>>>

[Gray]

As I suspected. the beautiful girl who is with Mohinder Saresh is a spy.

[Snoogins182]

As I suspected. the beautiful girl who is with Mohinder Saresh is a spy.

How do you know? I figured as much but what tells you that?

[Snoogins182]

Nice info on the behind the scenes and things coming up:

http://comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=8758

[Gray]

How do you know? I figured as much but what tells you that?

I saw the preview of tonight's episode on tvguide.com

[Gray]

That little cheerleader that took credit for Clair's rescue might be up the creek...

[Snoogins182]

That little cheerleader that took credit for Clair's rescue might be up the creek...

Was that on the TVguide thing as well?

[Gray]

Was that on the TVguide thing as well?

No, I am guessing, now. They never put anything in a show like this without a reason...

[Raidiant21]

Maybe Issac can see the future without being drugged, he may have to harness the power first. Like maybe he has to learn the full power of his power.

Could be, and it's also possible that Nikki can access whatever her power is without her other self. Meanwhile, Peter can already use Isaac's power without Isaac's hindrance, so if Nikki's other personality is a similar, separate issue, then it wouldn't affect Peter, either.

[Dancer]

I like Nikki a whole lot better than I like Ikkin.

[FranklySpeaking]

ohhhhh, so the "parents" really are not the parents ...

[Dancer]

I had expected that due to who her dad appears to be.

[Raidiant21]

ohhhhh, so the "parents" really are not the parents ...

Who, the cheerleader's? You didn't notice that when they mentioned it?

[Gray]

ohhhhh, so the "parents" really are not the parents ...


Those people were not the parents either.

[FranklySpeaking]

Who, the cheerleader's? You didn't notice that when they mentioned it?

no, I only watch in spurts . I just saw the exchange between the adoptive father and who I assumed was the real father ... and how the girl's adoptive mother told her how they had searched for the parents once before

... weird stuff with the boy and his mom and dad !

[Dancer]

Ok, I REALLY can't stand Ikkin now....But Nikki's husband is cool!

[FranklySpeaking]

Ok, I REALLY can't stand Ikkin now....But Nikki's husband is cool!

Now i regret not watching all the shows from the first episode

[Raidiant21]

no, I only watch in spurts . I just saw the exchange between the adoptive father and who I assumed was the real father ... and how the girl's adoptive mother told her how they had searched for the parents once before

... weird stuff with the boy and his mom and dad !

Oh, I figured immediately that the "bio-parents" were ringers. No one simply finds and arranges contact with the biological parents of an adopted child that fast, unless they were in contact with them all along, and it was already made clear that that wasn't the case here.

[HSMaxim]

The interview in the latest TV Guide with the creators said he definitely has powers.Ok, I don't do spoilers though, I like to experience shows as they progress.

I think I'll stay away from these threads from now on.

[JimGP20]

I like this show, but it moves with all the pace of frozen molasses.

[Raidiant21]

I like this show, but it moves with all the pace of frozen molasses.

They can skip all the tedious character development with Niki any time they like, with my permission. The character pretty much bores me anyway, and this torturous hide-and-seek with her is getting on my nerves. Just tell us her power and move ON, already, because it stopped being intriguing three episodes or so ago.

[bodecea]

They can skip all the tedious character development with Niki any time they like, with my permission. The character pretty much bores me anyway, and this torturous hide-and-seek with her is getting on my nerves. Just tell us her power and move ON, already, because it stopped being intriguing three episodes or so ago.


Agreed.

She may be the sex item on the show...but get ON with IT!!!

[Raidiant21]

Agreed.

She may be the sex item on the show...but get ON with IT!!!

If she's the "sex item" on the show, then they REALLY missed the mark, because she is seriously trashy and skeezy. Even when she's presumably dressed up, her hair looks like it hasn't been washed in a week.

Her husband's character is kinda interesting, though.

Oh, and my husband has some intriguing thoughts concerning their son, and the possibility of him having unusual abilities.

[notluzn]

My Friend is a mad fan of this show. Seems more and more shows are doing the continous plot. Works well with BSG. :)

[bodecea]

If she's the "sex item" on the show, then they REALLY missed the mark, because she is seriously trashy and skeezy. Even when she's presumably dressed up, her hair looks like it hasn't been washed in a week.

Her husband's character is kinda interesting, though.

Oh, and my husband has some intriguing thoughts concerning their son, and the possibility of him having unusual abilities.


Is the son the evil brain eater...come back from the future?

[WorldWatcher]

My Friend is a mad fan of this show. Seems more and more shows are doing the continous plot. Works well with BSG. :)


Was it me or did they spend an inordinant amount of time on Nikki last night.

I found that a little boring.


>>>>

[Mortis]

Is the son the evil brain eater...come back from the future?
OH MY!!!

I NEVER thought of that!!

[Dancer]

Now i regret not watching all the shows from the first episodeThat's what they have been calling the mirror image of Nikki on several of NBC's chat threads about Heroes and other spoiler sites I have been researching the show on.

[basilisk]

That's what they have been calling the mirror image of Nikki on several of NBC's chat threads about Heroes and other spoiler sites I have been researching the show on.Okay, maybe someone can help me out. I haven't been able to watch every episode, so what exactly is the deal with Nikki?

[Gray]

Okay, maybe someone can help me out. I haven't been able to watch every episode, so what exactly is the deal with Nikki?


Possible super strength coupled with a split personality. Framed her husband for a crime he did not commit. Rips people into pieces.

[basilisk]

Possible super strength coupled with a split personality. Framed her husband for a crime he did not commit. Rips people into pieces.So what's the deal with the mirror? I haven't seen anything in any episodes I've been able to watch that gives me any idea on this.

[Gray]

So what's the deal with the mirror? I haven't seen anything in any episodes I've been able to watch that gives me any idea on this.

So far we can only guess. Perhaps it is merely a trigger for her phychotic episodes.

[WorldWatcher]

So far we can only guess. Perhaps it is merely a trigger for her phychotic episodes.


Hmmmmm - Possible power, alternate universe access through a mirror?


Could Nikki and Ikkin be two seperate people from alternate realities?


>>>>

[Gray]

Could be. I agree with the other posters. Stiop dragging this out and be done with it.

[Raidiant21]

Is the son the evil brain eater...come back from the future?

No, he's some kinda super-genius. So far, he doesn't appear to me to be any more than your average, run-of-the-mill prodigy, but it IS odd that a child prodigy turned up as the offspring of two people who have superpowers.

[Raidiant21]

So what's the deal with the mirror? I haven't seen anything in any episodes I've been able to watch that gives me any idea on this.

She keeps seeing and talking to her other self - whatever the hell THAT'S about - in mirrors, although whether or not it's actually happening, or she's imagining it, is up for grabs at this point. Her power is "very mysterious", which is why we have to have tons and tons of boring, tedious focus on her character development, because the creators think we're fascinated and titillated with her. Maybe they are. I'm getting incredibly impatient with the whole thing.

[JediMindTrick]

So what's the deal with the mirror? I haven't seen anything in any episodes I've been able to watch that gives me any idea on this.

I think its just a plot device to visually show the battle of the competing personalities in Nikki's head. No different than the devil sitting on the shoulder.

[JediMindTrick]

I love Nikki's character and whole evil monster within dynamic. Give me a whole episode and no current time Hiro (future Hiro would be fine) and I'll be jumping for joy.

My favorite characters so far are in order:

1. Nikki
2. Matt
3. Claire
4. Claire's dad
5. Mohinder
6. Peter
7. Isaac
8. Nathan
9. Everyone else I haven't mentioned.
Dead Last - Jar Jar Hiro

[Raidiant21]

I love Nikki's character and whole evil monster within dynamic. Give me a whole episode and no current time Hiro (future Hiro would be fine) and I'll be jumping for joy.

My favorite characters so far are in order:

1. Nikki
2. Matt
3. Claire
4. Claire's dad
5. Mohinder
6. Peter
7. Isaac
8. Nathan
9. Everyone else I haven't mentioned.
Dead Last - Jar Jar Hiro

I think Hiro's funny, but that may just be because I know so many people like him. I think Mohinder is dead sexy, so they can focus on him all they like. I'm also kinda interested to see what part he's going to play, given that he has no powers. I'm predisposed to like the cop character, because I've always liked that actor. I would like Peter better if it wasn't so painfully obvious that we're SUPPOSED to like him. I always hate that. Claire whines too much for my taste, but I could possibly get to like her. DL has potential.

[basilisk]

I actually think Hiro is the best character in the show. He's just a humble guy who isn't all messed up, and with a strong moral center. He's a real hero. Nikki is just messed up. Cute, sure, but messed up.

[grapabeaux]

I haven't had a chance to go through all of the posts yet, so apologies if I've hit on things already said:

1. Yes, the Hiro character for the most part so far has been the comic relief, but giving him the Jar Jar label is premature. The segment where a much more composed Hiro comes back in time (and speaks English, for once) gives us some indication that there's more to him.

2. There's sort of a feel to this story arc that's similar to the movie "Unbreakable", with Bruce Willis and Samuel L. Jackson. You're not sure yet who is good, evil, dead, or what (especially with Niki). The story is speculative at this point, and the story has been going in third gear so far, but I think that the payoff will be more profitable for the setup.

Some other series have gone this slow toward building story arcs (Star Trek's Deep Space Nine galactic war with the Cardassians and Dominion comes to mind), but not many of them do it to start out the series.

[Raidiant21]

I haven't had a chance to go through all of the posts yet, so apologies if I've hit on things already said:

1. Yes, the Hiro character for the most part so far has been the comic relief, but giving him the Jar Jar label is premature. The segment where a much more composed Hiro comes back in time (and speaks English, for once) gives us some indication that there's more to him.

2. There's sort of a feel to this story arc that's similar to the movie "Unbreakable", with Bruce Willis and Samuel L. Jackson. You're not sure yet who is good, evil, dead, or what (especially with Niki). The story is speculative at this point, and the story has been going in third gear so far, but I think that the payoff will be more profitable for the setup.

Some other series have gone this slow toward building story arcs (Star Trek's Deep Space Nine galactic war with the Cardassians and Dominion comes to mind), but not many of them do it to start out the series.

I don't think I want this show to use Deep Snooze Nine as a guideline, though.

[darklighter13]

I actually think Hiro is the best character in the show. He's just a humble guy who isn't all messed up, and with a strong moral center. He's a real hero.
Agreed. My favorite segments on the show are by far the Hiro segments. The Niki segments aren't all that interesting -- they try to get us to generate sympathy for her as a single mom, but I'm just not buying the character. The guy who can copy others' power is a cool concept, but I feel it sort of limits him as a character to being a perpetual sidekick. The cheerleader bits have some potential, but right now it's just potential. I like the cop, a lot.

[basilisk]

Agreed. My favorite segments on the show are by far the Hiro segments. The Niki segments aren't all that interesting -- they try to get us to generate sympathy for her as a single mom, but I'm just not buying the character. The guy who can copy others' power is a cool concept, but I feel it sort of limits him as a character to being a perpetual sidekick. The cheerleader bits have some potential, but right now it's just potential. I like the cop, a lot.That's my take as well. The cop and Hiro are my favorite characters. His marital problems and how he handles them are just priceless gems of insight into human nature and very well crafted.

[grapabeaux]

What the heck, I'll bump.

First half hour's over, and I have to say that there's more action this time around. Towards what, I'm not sure yet.

[Snoogins182]

The kid has powers now that we see a glimpse of. That's pretty sweet. And the radiation guy may be the cause fo New Yorks demise.

[Mortis]

The kid has powers now that we see a glimpse of. That's pretty sweet. And the radiation guy may be the cause fo New Yorks demise.
Agreed, I said that to Arya after it sank in.

Hiro is still my fave, he's funny, unassuming and quirked.

I still don't know if I trust "Jessica"

Finally we get more on the Cheerleader's "Dad", that'll be interesting.

[Raidiant21]

The kid has powers now that we see a glimpse of. That's pretty sweet. And the radiation guy may be the cause fo New Yorks demise.

I'm guessing that the cheerleader is the key to saving the world because, with her invulnerability, she's the only one who can get close enough to whoever's using radiation to blow things up to stop him.

[Snoogins182]

I'm guessing that the cheerleader is the key to saving the world because, with her invulnerability, she's the only one who can get close enough to whoever's using radiation to blow things up to stop him.

I think maybe that guy that has the radiation problem is the thing that blows up when he is shot or sylar takes his powers and he is then blown up. But yes you might be onto something with her being the key to actually stoping him. I was thinking maybe he steals her powers so he can blow up and comeback and blow up again and again.

[Raidiant21]

I think maybe that guy that has the radiation problem is the thing that blows up when he is shot or sylar takes his powers and he is then blown up. But yes you might be onto something with her being the key to actually stoping him. I was thinking maybe he steals her powers so he can blow up and comeback and blow up again and again.

Well, I figure either Sylar has the radiation thing, since he seems to have so many of the other powers that have been shown so far, or he somehow uses the nutty radiation guy.

I think they're supposed to save her from something BEFORE the explosion, so that she can stop the explosion, and probably other explosions afterward.

[Gray]

Agreed, I said that to Arya after it sank in.

Hiro is still my fave, he's funny, unassuming and quirked.

I still don't know if I trust "Jessica"

Finally we get more on the Cheerleader's "Dad", that'll be interesting.
The symbol is appearing on the cop's back.

So far just two small hash marks.


The cheerleader has the whole mark. I'll bet anything it has to do with how much they use their abilitiies.

[JimGP20]

*save the cheerleader.............. save the world*










So freakin' save her already !!!!!

[Gray]

Well, I figure either Sylar has the radiation thing, since he seems to have so many of the other powers that have been shown so far, or he somehow uses the nutty radiation guy.



..or takes his brain so he can steal his powers.

[Raidiant21]

The symbol is appearing on the cop's back.

So far just two small hash marks.


The cheerleader has the whole mark. I'll bet anything it has to do with how much they use their abilitiies.

Didn't we see that same little hash mark thing on someone else's shoulder, fading into the one on the cop's? I'ma have to go back and look.

[Gray]

Didn't we see that same little hash mark thing on someone else's shoulder, fading into the one on the cop's? I'ma have to go back and look.


The mark looks like a half of a DNA helix with only a few hash marks on each curve. The painter painted it. It was on the cheerleaders schoolbook and her shoulder.

The cop only had two hash marks.....so far...

[Raidiant21]

The mark looks like a half of a DNA helix with only a few hash marks on each curve. The painter painted it. It was on the cheerleaders schoolbook and her shoulder.

The cop only had two hash marks.....so far...

I've seen the symbol. I just seem to remember that we saw those two little hash marks on someone else's shoulder, and then it faded into those same hash marks on the cop's shoulder. I have it on the DVR. I'll go look.

[Snoogins182]

I've seen the symbol. I just seem to remember that we saw those two little hash marks on someone else's shoulder, and then it faded into those same hash marks on the cop's shoulder. I have it on the DVR. I'll go look.

Yeah I remember that. Just before he heard that dude was sleeping with his wife.

[Snoogins182]

Could the symbols mean different class of powers?

[bodecea]

I've seen the symbol. I just seem to remember that we saw those two little hash marks on someone else's shoulder, and then it faded into those same hash marks on the cop's shoulder. I have it on the DVR. I'll go look.

Radiation guy...when he was being booked.

[JimGP20]

I've seen the symbol. I just seem to remember that we saw those two little hash marks on someone else's shoulder, and then it faded into those same hash marks on the cop's shoulder. I have it on the DVR. I'll go look.

I thought that when the cop and the FBI gal went to the hospital and confronted the radiation guy, that they panned close to him and showed
marks on his neck, and then panned to the cop to show almost identical marks on his. I could be mistaken, but I think that's what I saw.

[basilisk]

Where's my tin foil hat? :shifty:

[Raidiant21]

Yeah I remember that. Just before he heard that dude was sleeping with his wife.

Ah HAH! My husband says we saw it on Radiation Boy, as he was getting his mug shots, and then it faded into the cop. So now the question is, what do the two have in common, other than having powers, that would give them both that hash mark? For that matter, what do the people who have the full symbol have in common, other than powers? Is the hash mark the beginning of the symbol, or something else?

[Raidiant21]

Well, at least we're all on the same page concerning who has hash marks. ;)

[FranklySpeaking]

I've seen the symbol. I just seem to remember that we saw those two little hash marks on someone else's shoulder, and then it faded into those same hash marks on the cop's shoulder. I have it on the DVR. I'll go look.


It was the radiation guy

[grapabeaux]

It was the radiation guy

Not to be confused with Jack Abramoff, the GOP "radiation guy".

(Sorry, just had to freshen up the thread. See ya on Monday.)

[FranklySpeaking]

Ah HAH! My husband says we saw it on Radiation Boy, as he was getting his mug shots, and then it faded into the cop. So now the question is, what do the two have in common, other than having powers, that would give them both that hash mark? For that matter, what do the people who have the full symbol have in common, other than powers? Is the hash mark the beginning of the symbol, or something else?

Maybe it is the full realization of the potential of their power ... in relation to the completeness of the symbol.

Maybe it's the number of people they have come to know as also having powers.

I'm not up on who all has the symbol and how detailed each person's "etching" happens to be.

[CALady]

You folks realize that Heroes is replayed twice on the SciFi channel, right?

On Friday and Monday before the new show. Check your local listings... ;)

[Iggy]

Doesn't Nikki (PMS Avenger) have a tattoo in that same area on her shoulder/neck? I seem to remember something there. Maybe to cover her hash marks?

[WorldWatcher]

Doesn't Nikki (PMS Avenger) have a tattoo in that same area on her shoulder/neck? I seem to remember something there. Maybe to cover her hash marks?


One train of thought is that they aren't "Tatoo's", But something that is developing. Nikki/Ikkin's is more fully developed and that it is now starting on Radiation Guy and Cop.


>>>>

[Raidiant21]

One train of thought is that they aren't "Tatoo's", But something that is developing. Nikki/Ikkin's is more fully developed and that it is now starting on Radiation Guy and Cop.


>>>>

I don't think they're intentional tattoos, because that symbol has been seen other places, like floating in the pool of the house where we first saw the cop.

[Raidiant21]

I'm thinking maybe the marks showing up on people's bodies has something to do with how long they've had their powers. I mean, we saw the first time the cop's powers ever manifested, and Radiation Boy appears to have just started manifesting. They both have hash marks. But it's clear that Niki, for example, has been manifesting for months, because Jessica stole the money and framed DL ages ago. Claire also must have been manifesting for months before we first saw her, because her geek friend has that big long video of her suicide attempts, all happening well before her first appearance on the show. I believe they both have the full symbol, although how that connects to the other places we've seen it, like in the pool, is anyone's guess.

[JediMindTrick]

I think the symbol is part of a government conspiracy led by horn rimmed glasses guy. He bags and tags those with powers for later identification. I also don't think HRGG is a bad guy. Matt was kidnapped by him so he could have got it then. Nikki only shows the tatoo when she is Jessica so perhaps it was Jessica that got tagged in a yet unseen scene.

Also, that symbol shows up EVERYWHERE in the show. I saw some fan site where they were tracking it and its like the numbers in Lost, popping up in very odd and strange places where you'll miss it if you aren't paying close attention.

[uncledoom]

Cylar strikes again....

[grapabeaux]

Now we're starting to get somewhere. But if next week is going to be the sweeps finale, there are a lot of subplots to come together in one hour's worth of drama.

[Snoogins182]

The new episodes end dec. 4th. Then start up again in lat January. Only 3 episodes left. This show is so freakin' sweet.

[uncledoom]

Spolier space for those out west:






































So the guy with the glasses is like Professor X. Interesting that he's been tracking Cylar as well.

[FranklySpeaking]

so, this is the turning point for Hiro ?

[Mortis]

May be, Hiro in the picture freaked me out.

[grapabeaux]

so, this is the turning point for Hiro ?

I'd imagine it is. I noticed his voice, for lack of a better word, changed when he told the other guy he was going to try to go back in time. I also take it this is where Hiro learns about the problem with "rifts".

I especially liked the bit with the cop and the nuclear guy. You can see the symbiotic relationship developing. The nuclear guy is an emotional wreck and very dangerous when he lets his emotions get the best of him, and the cop who can read his thoughts can act to preclude him from going bonkers and blowing up New York City.

[JediMindTrick]

This show is awesome because so far it doesn't look they are going to drag out their teases like a certain Lostish show does.

[FranklySpeaking]

It is February yet ?


:confused:

[Gray]

"Seven minutes to midnight".......................

Exactly the time on Sylar's broken watch..........


...strange...

Looks like Sylar ****tered the watch when he was killing Mohinder's father.

[Gray]

So...

Mr. Bennet is planting tracking devices in the "mutants".

He was working with Mohinder Saresh's father.

The computer program is used to track the mutants and Sylar has a copy of it.

The map is a migrational pattern for the mutants movements....

[Dancer]

One train of thought is that they aren't "Tatoo's", But something that is developing. Nikki/Ikkin's is more fully developed and that it is now starting on Radiation Guy and Cop.


>>>>Ikkin has a name now (Jessica). ;)

I read somewhere that someone said that they were just symbolic. For the audience, not necessarily for the characters...

[Raidiant21]

So the guy with the glasses is like Professor X. Interesting that he's been tracking Cylar as well.

I don't think he's like Professor X. Obviously, he and whoever he works for are interested in tracking and monitoring the people with powers, but I don't think he's a good guy, or doing it to help them. I think they have something they want to use these people for, some end of their own.

[Raidiant21]

So...

Mr. Bennet is planting tracking devices in the "mutants".

He was working with Mohinder Saresh's father.

The computer program is used to track the mutants and Sylar has a copy of it.

The map is a migrational pattern for the mutants movements....

Where are you getting this stuff from, and if it's not from the actual episodes that have aired, would you please keep it to yourself? Some of us would like to discuss the show without having it spoiled.

[Raidiant21]

Ikkin has a name now (Jessica). ;)

I read somewhere that someone said that they were just symbolic. For the audience, not necessarily for the characters...

She appears to be a split personality, and it's typical for the extra personalities to have their own names.

My husband has a theory about alternate dimensions. I'm not sure I grok what he's getting at.

[basilisk]

I just bothered to read Dancer's avatar text. It's perfect for a forum like this. Very cool, Dancer. :cool:

[Gray]

Where are you getting this stuff from, and if it's not from the actual episodes that have aired, would you please keep it to yourself? Some of us would like to discuss the show without having it spoiled.

Relax, I am guessing..

....and in any case it is foolish to come to a thread which is talkiing about the show and then bitch anbout finding out something.


Add Raidiant21 to your Ignore List

[Gray]

Here's another guess....

The painting shows The Cheerleader dead and another shows Hiro and his friend stanoding in front of a bloodsoaked banner....

The cheerleader dies tonight.

Then next week Hiro takes a mulligan....

.......................

The advertisements for the show keep calling that radiactive guy an "unlikely hero"..

I can't imagine how producing lethal radiation can help people.....
.....unless this guy can suck an atomic bomb core dry like a soda pop can.....

[grapabeaux]

Bump. I promise not to give anything away. http://www.hannity.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif

[bbt630]

The cheerleader dies tonight.but which cheerleader?