Detroit rocks my socks-- aka Tiger Talk

[Andrew Jackson]

Discuss--who is the greatest Tiger first baseman of all time?

I say Hank Greenberg

[super cool ski instructor]

Sorry...but Dave Bergman without a doubt!!!!!!



Love the thread babe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[super cool ski instructor]

AJ...do you know when Dave Bergman played for the Tigers?

[Andrew Jackson]

AJ...do you know when Dave Bergman played for the Tigers?

1980's Darrell Evans was better--most underated 1b of all time

I thought you would pull out a Cecil Fielder or a Norm Cash-- Bergman?

[super cool ski instructor]

1980's Darrell Evans was better--most underated 1b of all time

I thought you would pull out a Cecil Fielder or a Norm Cash-- Bergman?
Fielder only played first base once in a while...he was used in the outfield more.

Bregman was the first baseman in 84'

[Andrew Jackson]

Fielder only played first base once in a while...he was used in the outfield more.

Bregman was the first baseman in 84'

that fat arses Fielder was DH, wasn't he? If we can't agree on Hall of Famer Greenberg, this will be a long thread

[super cool ski instructor]

that fat arses Fielder was DH, wasn't he? If we can't agree on Hall of Famer Greenberg, this will be a long thread
Greenberg was okay....but Bergman....one of the first ballplayers I actually remember!!!! Loved the 84's!!!!!!!!

So...how do you think our chances look for this weekends match-up against the O's?

[iamredbeard]

All of those candidates are good chocies, but I ahve to go with the only Tiger 1B to have his number retired Hank Greenberg aka "Hankus Spankus".

If you have seen this the doctumentary on his life that came out a few years ago, I would suggest it, it's very good.


http://www.hankgreenbergfilm.org/index.php

[super cool ski instructor]

All of those candidates are good chocies, but I ahve to go with the only Tiger 1B to have his number retired Hank Greenberg aka "Hankus Spankus".

If you have seen this the doctumentary on his life that came out a few years ago, I would suggest it, it's very good.


http://www.hankgreenbergfilm.org/index.php
Fine!! Take sides with the Californian why don't you? :cool:

I did see the documentary...and enjoyed it greatly!!!

[iamredbeard]

Fine!! Take sides with the Californian why don't you? :cool:

I did see the documentary...and enjoyed it greatly!!!


It's that, it's just that I think having his number retired trumps everyone else. Only two other Tigers have had their numbers retired.

[markd]

1980's Darrell Evans was better--most underated 1b of all time

I thought you would pull out a Cecil Fielder or a Norm Cash-- Bergman?
You're on crack. Evans was a career .250 hitter. If your position doesn't require movement, at least hit the ball.

[super cool ski instructor]

You're on crack. Evans was a career .250 hitter. If your position doesn't require movement, at least hit the ball.
Markd...are you saying that first base doesn't require any movement? Come on now.....

[Andrew Jackson]

Greenberg was okay....but Bergman....one of the first ballplayers I actually remember!!!! Loved the 84's!!!!!!!!

So...how do you think our chances look for this weekends match-up against the O's?

2 out 0f three vs Orioles

1984 bergmanbatted 271 times, hit 7 home runs and hit 273--he only played 114 games at 1st. You loved a scrub.

[Andrew Jackson]

You're on crack. Evans was a career .250 hitter. If your position doesn't require movement, at least hit the ball.


check out his career power numbers--as good as Cepeda and Tony Perez, both in the Halll--baseball stat guru Bill James would agree with me

[iamredbeard]

Let's see if we can get a consensus at the best Tiger's all time at thier position.

Here's a link that I came across. I really can't disgaree with his choices.

http://www.wcnet.org/~dlfleitz/tigers.htm

[ALBOB2]

Al Kaline!!!! Hey, right field is just a REALLY deep 1st base.:mrgreen:

[super cool ski instructor]

2 out 0f three vs Orioles

1984 bergmanbatted 271 times, hit 7 home runs and hit 273--he only played 114 games at 1st. You loved a scrub.
hmmm...I see the Internet is your friend today huh??

Scrubs need love too ya know!!!!

[markd]

Markd...are you saying that first base doesn't require any movement? Come on now.....
I'm saying the percentage of fat players is decidedly tilted to first base and traditionally the worst athlete on the team.

[markd]

check out his career power numbers--as good as Cepeda and Tony Perez, both in the Halll--baseball stat guru Bill James would agree with me
And he hit .248 with no gold gloves.

[iamredbeard]

And he hit .248 with no gold gloves.


Which alllows me to come back with Hank Greenberg. Shouldn't creating the first baseman's glove count for something?

[super cool ski instructor]

Al Kaline!!!! Hey, right field is just a REALLY deep 1st base.:mrgreen:
:)) I love you ALBOB!!!!!

Kaline is definetly my pick for best Tiger ever!!!!!

[iamredbeard]

:)) I love you ALBOB!!!!!

Kaline is definetly my pick for best Tiger ever!!!!!


Most people would agree with you cause he is loved so much. Although many think that shoiuld go to Ty Cobb, whom nobody seems to love.

[super cool ski instructor]

Most people would agree with you cause he is loved so much. Although many think that shoiuld go to Ty Cobb, whom nobody seems to love.
Aww now I LOVE Ty Cobb...I just love Kaline more...

[markd]

Which alllows me to come back with Hank Greenberg. Shouldn't creating the first baseman's glove count for something?
Hank Greenberg is obviously the best Tiger 1B, but saying Evans is the most underrated 1B ever is crapola (in the Tiger org, sure, but not "ever"). He was underrated, because he was just a power hitter.
Also, we're not talking about an organization rife with amazing first basemen.

[iamredbeard]

Aww now I LOVE Ty Cobb...I just love Kaline more...


Well your one of the few. I have read very few good things about him besides his records. He was a jerk and a mean man and most people couldn't stanb him. The exact opposite is true of Al Kaline.

[super cool ski instructor]

Well your one of the few. I have read very few good things about him besides his records. He was a jerk and a mean man and most people couldn't stanb him. The exact opposite is true of Al Kaline.
Well...I can't really look at how Cobb was in person...since I did not know him. I loved him as a ball player, and he was a smart business man.

But Al Kaline is a gem!!!

[Andrew Jackson]

And he hit .248 with no gold gloves.

batting average andgold gloves are overrated--no response to power numbers
i see

[Andrew Jackson]

Hank Greenberg is obviously the best Tiger 1B, but saying Evans is the most underrated 1B ever is crapola (in the Tiger org, sure, but not "ever"). He was underrated, because he was just a power hitter.
Also, we're not talking about an organization rife with amazing first basemen.

not in Hall of Fame is what i should have said

[Andrew Jackson]

my favorite Tiger was Mickey Lolich

[super cool ski instructor]

Since this is a Tigers thread...it is my duty to give a shout out to my man...

http://detroit.tigers.mlb.com/images/2005/06/14/awDJHVQh.jpg

[Andrew Jackson]

Let's see if we can get a consensus at the best Tiger's all time at thier position.

Here's a link that I came across. I really can't disgaree with his choices.

http://www.wcnet.org/~dlfleitz/tigers.htm

i figured the hardest choice would be at second base and your link confirms that. I will take Gehringer because Ski will be a Lou girl

[super cool ski instructor]

i figured the hardest choice would be at second base and your link confirms that. I will take Gehringer because Ski will be a Lou girl
Ski is definetly a Lou girl!!!!!

[super cool ski instructor]

my favorite Tiger was Mickey Lolich
so AJ...why is he your favorite pray tell!!!!

[Andrew Jackson]

will Willie Horton get any love on this thread?

[Andrew Jackson]

so AJ...why is he your favorite pray tell!!!!

i knew he won three series game in 1968 and had a nice beer gut---saw an HBO special on Tigers and the 68 riots

[super cool ski instructor]

will Willie Horton get any love on this thread?
The love for Willie Horton goes without saying!! Just like the hate for bobby Higginson...

[Andrew Jackson]

The love for Willie Horton goes without saying!! Just like the hate for bobby Higginson...


what did he do? You remember Mickey Templeton and Rob Deer whiffing all the time?

[iamredbeard]

i figured the hardest choice would be at second base and your link confirms that. I will take Gehringer because Ski will be a Lou girl


I would have gine with Gehringer, using once again the retired number argument. I thought the the toughest would be SS and Catcher.

[iamredbeard]

my favorite Tiger was Mickey Lolich


Let me guess, you go and but donuts from him every morning.

[super cool ski instructor]

I would have gine with Gehringer, using once again the retired number argument. I thought the the toughest would be SS and Catcher.
Shortstop? Really??? They are right....nobody compares to Trammell!!!!

[Andrew Jackson]

I would have gine with Gehringer, using once again the retired number argument. I thought the the toughest would be SS and Catcher.

since i am new to Tiger Talk Trammell's competition would be? Cochrane over Freehan and Parrish seems a solid choice. Ski???? need help

[Andrew Jackson]

Let me guess, you go and but donuts from him every morning.

i love a good donut--Boston creme filled from Dunkin. I would have a beer with Lolich, but not Billy Martin

[super cool ski instructor]

since i am new to Tiger Talk Trammell's competition would be? Cochrane over Freehan and Parrish seems a solid choice. Ski???? need help
ummmm...I have undying devotion to Lance Parrish.....I would feel like I am cheating on him if I said there was a better catcher...

[Andrew Jackson]

ummmm...I have undying devotion to Lance Parrish.....I would feel like I am cheating on him if I said there was a better catcher...

you are not a Tiger fan--you are an '84 groupie that never grew up.

[super cool ski instructor]

you are not a Tiger fan--you are an '84 groupie that never grew up.
Awwwww come on!!! That's the first team I remember!! I was a youngin' back then!! You are always partial to the team that made you love the sport!!!

[Andrew Jackson]

Awwwww come on!!! That's the first team I remember!! I was a youngin' back then!! You are always partial to the team that made you love the sport!!!

i saw screw the '86 sox and John McNamara, and Billy Buck and Bob Stanley and Calvin Schiraldi--my first heartbreak

[super cool ski instructor]

i saw screw the '86 sox and John McNamara, and Billy Buck and Bob Stanley and Calvin Schiraldi--my first heartbreak
yep...and seeing how the sox are doing right now...that won't be your last heartbreak...

[Andrew Jackson]

yep...and seeing how the sox are doing right now...that won't be your last heartbreak...

a few more millions they will be back on top--go Tigers in '06

[markd]

batting average andgold gloves are overrated--no response to power numbers
i see
Well...he hit 40 twice. Then 30 twice. Whoop de doo.

[markd]

And how is BA overrated?

[super cool ski instructor]

a few more millions they will be back on top--go Tigers in '06
Well at least you have come around this season!!!!

[Andrew Jackson]

And how is BA overrated?

the goal of a baseball player is to score runs and drive in runs-- on base percentage andslugging percentage is more important.

[iamredbeard]

Shortstop? Really??? They are right....nobody compares to Trammell!!!!


Trammel is one of my favorites. I said that cause he is not and probally never will be a Hall of Famer and am not sure if there has ever been a Tiger Hall of Fame shortstop.

[Andrew Jackson]

the goal of a baseball player is to score runs and drive in runs-- on base percentage andslugging percentage is more important.

the basis of my position
http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/evansda01.php

[Andrew Jackson]

Trammel is one of my favorites. I said that cause he is not and probally never will be a Hall of Famer and am not sure if there has ever been a Tiger Hall of Fame shortstop.

Like a Mets thirdbaseman

[super cool ski instructor]

Trammel is one of my favorites. I said that cause he is not and probally never will be a Hall of Famer and am not sure if there has ever been a Tiger Hall of Fame shortstop.
which is absurd in my book!!!!!

[super cool ski instructor]

Like a Mets thirdbaseman
AJ...do not ruin all of this wonderful Tiger talk by bring up one of those New York teams!!!!

[Andrew Jackson]

AJ...do not ruin all of this wonderful Tiger talk by bring up one of those New York teams!!!!


:) :) :) sorry Mrs. Parrish

[super cool ski instructor]

:) :) :) sorry Mrs. Parrish
that was my first married name...it's Mrs. Inge now :cool:

[Andrew Jackson]

that was my first married name...it's Mrs. Inge now :cool:

Soon it will be Anna Benson

[super cool ski instructor]

Soon it will be Anna Benson
uugghhh...you have to ruin a perfectly good thread yet again by bringing that skank's name into it?

[Andrew Jackson]

uugghhh...you have to ruin a perfectly good thread yet again by bringing that skank's name into it?

then settle on one ball player to lust after

[super cool ski instructor]

then settle on one ball player to lust after
I chose 1 per decade!!!!

[markd]

the goal of a baseball player is to score runs
Which is done, primarily, by hitting the ball, frequently.
9 of the top 10 rbi guys hit over .300.
and drive in runs-- on base percentage and
slugging percentage is more important.
...and 9 of the top 10 slugging guys hit over .300

[Andrew Jackson]

I chose 1 per decade!!!!

that sounds more reasonable

[Andrew Jackson]

Which is done, primarily, by hitting the ball, frequently.
9 of the top 10 rbi guys hit over .300.

...and 9 of the top 10 slugging guys hit over .300

good point--best hitters do all those things.
.248 doesn't make you a unproductive hitter and some guys hit a weak .310

[iamredbeard]

which is absurd in my book!!!!!


I read somewhere that Al Kaline and Ted Williams before he died both thought he was HoF material. They said that his problem is that he played in the same league as Cal Ripken so he was rarely voted an all-start starter and that he didn't do the back flips that Ozzie did. Trammel said he didn't think he had the numbers, but they disagreed. Talking about his career BA. and career fieldign percentage. They said that if he had not had the misfortune of playing in the same league and at the same time of Ripken, that he probally would have been voted to the all-star game 10 times or so.

[Andrew Jackson]

nice post redbeard

[super cool ski instructor]

I read somewhere that Al Kaline and Ted Williams before he died both thought he was HoF material. They said that his problem is that he played in the same league as Cal Ripken so he was rarely voted an all-start starter and that he didn't do the back flips that Ozzie did. Trammel said he didn't think he had the numbers, but they disagreed. Talking about his career BA. and career fieldign percentage. They said that if he had not had the misfortune of playing in the same league and at the same time of Ripken, that he probally would have been voted to the all-star game 10 times or so.
The poor man can't catch a break!!!!!

[Andrew Jackson]

maybe Trammell can go in as a manager

[super cool ski instructor]

maybe Trammell can go in as a manager
hmmmm...what a good idea AJ!!!! :doh:

[markd]

The poor man can't catch a break!!!!!
Trammell was a great SS, but the HoF voters are tough on middle infielders.

[super cool ski instructor]

Trammell was a great SS, but the HoF voters are tough on middle infielders.
which is crazy in my opinion!!! bet they will have no problem voting stupid Jeter into the HoF though...

[Andrew Jackson]

which is crazy in my opinion!!! bet they will have no problem voting stupid Jeter into the HoF though...

A Rod in like Flynn

[markd]

which is crazy in my opinion!!! bet they will have no problem voting stupid Jeter into the HoF though...
Yankees get special consideration...you know that.:)

For the record I'm an Astros man.:cool:

[Andrew Jackson]

Yankees get special consideration...you know that.:)

For the record I'm an Astros man.:cool:


and Bagwell should go in before Evans

[iamredbeard]

maybe Trammell can go in as a manager


Thats wishful thinking, the year after he got fired as manager the Tigers turned into contenders. As much as I would like to see him go in as a manager, I just don't see it happening. It would be nice if Detroit would retire his number though, although that won't happen. They don't retire players numbers very often.

[super cool ski instructor]

Yankees get special consideration...you know that.:)

For the record I'm an Astros man.:cool:
Astros huh? They are a good team...

[Andrew Jackson]

Thats wishful thinking, the year after he got fired as manager the Tigers turned into contenders. As much as I would like to see him go in as a manager, I just don't see it happening. It would be nice if Detroit would retire his number though, although that won't happen. They don't retire players numbers very often.


i was being sarcastic and trying to be hurtful to Super Cool Trammell Instructor

:)

[markd]

and Bagwell should go in before Evans
Bagwell is a no brainer. Some "experts" have him as top five ALL TIME at 1B.

[markd]

Astros huh? They are a good team...
I'm a fanboy since the eighties. My son's name is Nolan.:cool:

[Andrew Jackson]

Bagwell is a no brainer. Some "experts" have him as top five ALL TIME at 1B.

i have heard that--a top 50 player of all time according to Bill james. Shagging Shane Bagwell was impressive as well

[super cool ski instructor]

I'm a fanboy since the eighties. My son's name is Nolan.:cool:
Nolan huh??? Good player!!!!

[super cool ski instructor]

I am bumping for my Boys of Summer!!!!

[ALBOB2]

my favorite Tiger was Mickey Lolich

Since you all already know I'm old, I won't worry about telling this story. I lived in the Gibralter/Trenton area as a child. My little league team, with me as the starting 1st baseman, won the league championship three years in a row losing a GRAND TOTAL of two games in that stretch. (I just had to throw that in.:mrgreen: )(And NO, first basemen are NOT fat.:evil: ) One year our reward was to go into Detroit to watch a Tiger's game. It must have been on Father's Day because the pre-game festivities included a Father-Son game where the Tigers players went against their kids. Well the Dads mixed things up and didn't play in their normal positions. For instance, Mickey Lolich played Left Field. Well, we were all in the second deck of Left Field. One of the kids hit a pretty good shot out to Mickey, he chased it down and instead of throwing it back into second base he turned around and fired it in our direction. Remember, we were in the second deck and he was halfway to the infield. That ball was headed straight toward my friend and I. There was no way in the world either one of us wanted to put our hand in front of it even though we had on gloves so we ducked to the side and it hit his seat. The sound was deafening and it cracked one of the wooden slats on the back of the seat. When we came back up our eyes were as big as saucers and Mickey has been one of my heros ever since.:eek:

[super cool ski instructor]

What a wonderful story ALBOB!!!!!!
I went to the Tigers game a few weeks ago, and Brandon Inge had to practically jump into the stands to make a catch....it was a few rows in front of me...now mind you...that is the end of my story...nothing exciting happened...but he was like right there in front of me, the love of my life...hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.................... ...............

[ALBOB2]

he was like right there in front of me, the love of my life...hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.................... ...............

Sweetie, I was in Las Vegas last week.:rolleyes:

[super cool ski instructor]

Sweetie, I was in Las Vegas last week.:rolleyes:
you are the other love of my life ALBOB!!!!!! You are the one I lust after...I actually have a shot with Brandon!!!

[ALBOB2]

you are the other love of my life ALBOB!!!!!! You are the one I lust after...I actually have a shot with Brandon!!!

Oh, OK. I like the lust part better anyway. Hmmmm..............we need to revive Dreamy's thread so we can start working on those calves of yours.:twisted:

[super cool ski instructor]

Oh, OK. I like the lust part better anyway. Hmmmm..............we need to revive Dreamy's thread so we can start working on those calves of yours.:twisted:
yeah baby!!!!!

[super cool ski instructor]

Since I am the only girl in this thread...I am posting this for my enjoyment


http://static.flickr.com/44/126741418_754782557b_o.jpg

[Bery GOP Girl]

Hey there ski! VERY cool thread!!!!

[super cool ski instructor]

Hey there ski! VERY cool thread!!!!
Yes...that AJ has stolen my heart!!!!!

[Bery GOP Girl]

Yes...that AJ has stolen my heart!!!!!
Dayum...you BETTER invite me to the wedding! :)

[super cool ski instructor]

Dayum...you BETTER invite me to the wedding! :)
:)) :))

[Bery GOP Girl]

:)) :))
That's a yes then?

[super cool ski instructor]

That's a yes then?
I take the 5th....LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bery GOP Girl]

I take the 5th....LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*tickles you* torture shall begin!!!!

[super cool ski instructor]

*tickles you* torture shall begin!!!!
:))
Did you see the post where I posted a picture of the love of my life Brandon Inge???

[Bery GOP Girl]

:))
Did you see the post where I posted a picture of the love of my life Brandon Inge???
Nope...where?

[super cool ski instructor]

Nope...where?
Like 4 posts before this one...

[Andrew Jackson]

Twins getting closer -- and we hate them

[Andrew Jackson]

i remember hearing Ernie Harwell do Series games for CBS radio a few yeras back--is he the best ever baseball announcer? I thought he was fantastic.

[super cool ski instructor]

i remember hearing Ernie Harwell do Series games for CBS radio a few yeras back--is he the best ever baseball announcer? I thought he was fantastic.
No arguments here!!!!!!!

[Andrew Jackson]

No arguments here!!!!!!!

that went without saying:rolleyes:

[super cool ski instructor]

that went without saying:rolleyes:
hmmmm...someone is a little smart allecky this morning huh......

patientally awating a sweep over the O's this weekend...

[Andrew Jackson]

hmmmm...someone is a little smart allecky this morning huh......

patientally awating a sweep over the O's this weekend...


i have my broom--

[super cool ski instructor]

i have my broom--
Yes...I cannot wait to taunt Tater forever after our sweep....

[Andrew Jackson]

Yes...I cannot wait to taunt Tater forever after our sweep....


when does Verlander pitch oh wise one?

[super cool ski instructor]

when does Verlander pitch oh wise one?
JV just pitched Wed. night. So it won't be until next week.
You a JV fan? He's okay...I love Nate Robertson...

[Andrew Jackson]

JV just pitched Wed. night. So it won't be until next week.
You a JV fan? He's okay...I love Nate Robertson...

JV recently on cover of SI. Kenny Rogers was an AllStar

[super cool ski instructor]

JV recently on cover of SI. Kenny Rogers was an AllStar
and that is why they are the only two pitchers from the Tigers that you know huh? :D

[Andrew Jackson]

and that is why they are the only two pitchers from the Tigers that you know huh? :D

you always hurt the ones you love:boohoo:

[super cool ski instructor]

you always hurt the ones you love:boohoo:
so I'm right? Can you name our pitcher who has been hurt all season, that has just recently made an appearance in Wed's game?

Think about it...I know you can do it....

[Andrew Jackson]

so I'm right? Can you name our pitcher who has been hurt all season, that has just recently made an appearance in Wed's game?

Think about it...I know you can do it....


no..

[super cool ski instructor]

no..
I had such high hopes for you...it's Mike Maroth.

[Andrew Jackson]

I had such high hopes for you...it's Mike Maroth.


oops--didn't know he was hurt:angel:

[super cool ski instructor]

oops--didn't know he was hurt:angel:
see...now I know you are an imposter fan :D

[Andrew Jackson]

see...now I know you are an imposter fan :D


new fan new fan!!!!

[super cool ski instructor]

new fan new fan!!!!
well dear...then you should also know that Placido Polanco (2nd base) is also out hurt.

[Andrew Jackson]

well dear...then you should also know that Placido Polanco (2nd base) is also out hurt.

i believe i read that somewhere. are the walls tumbling down?

[super cool ski instructor]

i believe i read that somewhere. are the walls tumbling down?
:)) :))

Placido is one of my favorites!!!

[Andrew Jackson]

:)) :))

Placido is one of my favorites!!!


what Tiger don't you like?

[super cool ski instructor]

what Tiger don't you like?
ummmmm....I like them all...some better than others!!!!
They play as a team and enjoy it, what's not to like?

[super cool ski instructor]

I refuse to let the thread devoted to my Boys of Summer go to the second page!!!

[super cool ski instructor]

Go Tigers!!!! Sweep the O's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[super cool ski instructor]

UPDATE:

TOP OF 4th

TIGERS: 1
O'S: 0

[super cool ski instructor]

UPDATE:

BOTTOM OF 4th

TIGERS: 9
O'S: 1

[iamredbeard]

I'm gonna hi-jack this thread.


I was just at the store and noticed they had a Sports Illustrated Steve Yzerman Commermative Issue. I looked through it, loooked pretty good, but did not but it. Will probally get it next week some time. Anyways I thought all of ya Tiger fans would like to know that it's out there.

[super cool ski instructor]

I'm gonna hi-jack this thread.


I was just at the store and noticed they had a Sports Illustrated Steve Yzerman Commermative Issue. I looked through it, loooked pretty good, but did not but it. Will probally get it next week some time. Anyways I thought all of ya Tiger fans would like to know that it's out there.
Yes!!!! I bought it when it came out!!!!!! Hockey hasn't even started yet and I miss seeing him out on the ice already :cry:
He is, in my opinion the greatest Detroit athlete EVER!!!!!!!!

[iamredbeard]

Yes!!!! I bought it when it came out!!!!!! Hockey hasn't even started yet and I miss seeing him out on the ice already :cry:
He is, in my opinion the greatest Detroit athlete EVER!!!!!!!!


I don't know if he is the greatest. The Detroit Free Press had an article aboiut that a while back. I think Mitch Album wrote it. I think he said that he is one of the greatest, but probally not the greatest, but defintely tied with Al Kaline for the most loved.

[iamredbeard]

Nothing like turning Tigertown talk into Hockeytown talk, huh.

[super cool ski instructor]

I don't know if he is the greatest. The Detroit Free Press had an article aboiut that a while back. I think Mitch Album wrote it. I think he said that he is one of the greatest, but probally not the greatest, but defintely tied with Al Kaline for the most loved.
I still say he is the greatest!!!!! There is not a single person on the planet who can change my mind on that one!!!! Who would you say is?


And yes this thread is now turned into HOCKEYTOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :dance: :dance:

[iamredbeard]

I still say he is the greatest!!!!! There is not a single person on the planet who can change my mind on that one!!!! Who would you say is?


And yes this thread is now turned into HOCKEYTOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :dance: :dance:


I don't know. So mnay great athletes so its ahrd to pick one. He didn't put up the numbeers that Gorde did, but its harld a fair comparision. The league was so different when Yzerman played compared to when Howe played. I've heard some people say the Bobbly Lane was, others say Al Kaline. It's so hard it make a definite statement. You can't go wrong with any of them. I do think he is the most loved though, yes even more than Al Kaline. Just imagine how crazy the Joe will be when they retire his number.

[iamredbeard]

After the Red Wings drafted him they tried to trade him for hometown boy Pat LaFonataine, but thanksfully Buffalo wanted nothing to do with the trade.

[super cool ski instructor]

I don't know. So mnay great athletes so its ahrd to pick one. He didn't put up the numbeers that Gorde did, but its harld a fair comparision. The league was so different when Yzerman played compared to when Howe played. I've heard some people say the Bobbly Lane was, others say Al Kaline. It's so hard it make a definite statement. You can't go wrong with any of them. I do think he is the most loved though, yes even more than Al Kaline. Just imagine how crazy the Joe will be when they retire his number.
See now I am probably the only hockey fan who doesn't like Howe. I don't know why...I just don't like him. I remember how they were making a big deal out of it because he was going to play a game with the Vipers and that would mean that he would play in 5 decades. Well I was at that game, and all he did was go out on the ice and skate a lap around the ice, and got off. I was like 'what the hell...that doesn't even count!!!"...and ever since then I have not liked him.

Kaline is another great one!! And definetly loved, but I think that is a generational thing...the older sportsfans say they love him most of all, and younger fans love Yzerman more. I know for me it's because I am young still and I don't ever remember the Wings without Yzerman as Captain. This first season without him will be really hard to watch.

[super cool ski instructor]

UPDATE:

BOTTOM OF 6th


DETROIT: 15
O's : 2

[iamredbeard]

After the Red Wings drafted him they tried to trade him for hometown boy Pat LaFonataine, but thanksfully Buffalo wanted nothing to do with the trade.


http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060705/SPORTS08/607050375/1128/SPORTS0103

[iamredbeard]

See now I am probably the only hockey fan who doesn't like Howe. I don't know why...I just don't like him. I remember how they were making a big deal out of it because he was going to play a game with the Vipers and that would mean that he would play in 5 decades. Well I was at that game, and all he did was go out on the ice and skate a lap around the ice, and got off. I was like 'what the hell...that doesn't even count!!!"...and ever since then I have not liked him.

Kaline is another great one!! And definetly loved, but I think that is a generational thing...the older sportsfans say they love him most of all, and younger fans love Yzerman more. I know for me it's because I am young still and I don't ever remember the Wings without Yzerman as Captain. This first season without him will be really hard to watch.



The same here. Kaline, Howe, and the other were before my time. I am partial to Yzerman myself. I am just saying that he is not a clearcut #!. There have been so many great athletes in Detroit.

[super cool ski instructor]

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060705/SPORTS08/607050375/1128/SPORTS0103
Good Article!!!! Thanks for posting it!!!!

[super cool ski instructor]

The same here. Kaline, Howe, and the other were before my time. I am partial to Yzerman myself. I am just saying that he is not a clearcut #!. There have been so many great athletes in Detroit.
There really have!!!!

but my mind will never be changed :D

[iamredbeard]

Good Article!!!! Thanks for posting it!!!!


Your welcome. I had a bunch of other good stuff on him book marked but lsoe them when my computer crashed and had to get another one, many of the by Mitch Album.

Don't ya love the part where it said that they were heartbroken that they couldn't get LaFontaine and had to settle for Yzerman. Thats when I started to get interested in hockey. I remember them keep trying to trade Yzerman for LaFontaine but a trade could not be worked be worked out, thank goodness.

[iamredbeard]

UPDATE:

BOTTOM OF 6th


DETROIT: 15
O's : 2


It'd be nice if they could save some runs for tomorrow.

[iamredbeard]

There really have!!!!

but my mind will never be changed :D


He's my favorite. I don't know if he is the greatest or not, but he is defintely my favorite.

[super cool ski instructor]

Your welcome. I had a bunch of other good stuff on him book marked but lsoe them when my computer crashed and had to get another one, many of the by Mitch Album.

Don't ya love the part where it said that they were heartbroken that they couldn't get LaFontaine and had to settle for Yzerman. Thats when I started to get interested in hockey. I remember them keep trying to trade Yzerman for LaFontaine but a trade could not be worked be worked out, thank goodness.
They were talking alot about that during his retirement press conference.
That was a sad day...almost as bad as the day after the limo accident in 1997...

[super cool ski instructor]

He's my favorite. I don't know if he is the greatest or not, but he is defintely my favorite.
:shhh: he's the greatest...let's just stick with that okay ;)

[iamredbeard]

They were talking alot about that during his retirement press conference.
That was a sad day...almost as bad as the day after the limo accident in 1997...


That was a bad day.

[super cool ski instructor]

It'd be nice if they could save some runs for tomorrow.
There will be plenty tomorrow too!!!!! I have a feeling the Tigers are back!!!!
I am loving this Pennant Race stuff!! Oh the DRAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[super cool ski instructor]

Indians are beating the Twinkies 4-2!!!!!!!!!!!!

[super cool ski instructor]

FINAL:

TIGERS: 17
O's: 2


Sorry Tater!!!!! :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:

[Andrew Jackson]

FINAL:

TIGERS: 17
O's: 2


Sorry Tater!!!!! :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:


read that in the paper--some scrub third baseman hits a grand slam

[super cool ski instructor]

read that in the paper--some scrub third baseman hits a grand slam
And it was fabulous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Andrew Jackson]

And it was fabulous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that is all you need is for the scrub to get more headlines

[super cool ski instructor]

that is all you need is for the scrub to get more headlines
The scrub has my love!!!!
You can go and lust after Kate Hudson or something!

[Andrew Jackson]

The scrub has my love!!!!
You can go and lust after Kate Hudson or something!

What is wrong with Ms. Hudson--she left the rock ,n roller and available

[super cool ski instructor]

Hey Tater Tot...can't wait to win 20-1 tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!

[super cool ski instructor]

2 out of 3....I think that is what Tater predicted his O's would do....

[Andrew Jackson]

1 game lead over twins
5 over chisox
big series tonite---finish off chicago

[super cool ski instructor]

1 game lead over twins
5 over chisox
big series tonite---finish off chicago
you are impressing me more and more every day AJ!!!!

[Andrew Jackson]

you are impressing me more and more every day AJ!!!!

i am commited

[super cool ski instructor]

i am commited
That you are!!!!!
Do you know who is pitching tonight?

[Andrew Jackson]

That you are!!!!!
Do you know who is pitching tonight?

i looked it up today

Rogers vs Buehrle

[super cool ski instructor]

i looked it up today

Rogers vs Buehrle
:snooty: you had to look it up....

[Andrew Jackson]

:snooty: you had to look it up....


not much Tiger news outside Detriot. and you have the rotation memorized? you really are a very demanding person to try to please

[super cool ski instructor]

not much Tiger news outside Detriot. and you have the rotation memorized? you really are a very demanding person to try to please
Of course I have the rotation memerized!!!!!
There are only 5 players to memerize!! Not very difficult my dear!! ;)

[Andrew Jackson]

Of course I have the rotation memerized!!!!!
There are only 5 players to memerize!! Not very difficult my dear!! ;)

you are busting my ass today---on my own :wall: thread

[super cool ski instructor]

you are busting my ass today---on my own :wall: thread
well I have to do it here!! Since someone has ignored my thread :whistle:

[Andrew Jackson]

well I have to do it here!! Since someone has ignored my thread :whistle:

how about putting your ego away for the Tigers this week--they need all of our support

[super cool ski instructor]

how about putting your ego away for the Tigers this week--they need all of our support
fightin' words again....

...but it is cute that you are trying to get me to support MY Tigers!!:D

[Andrew Jackson]

fightin' words again....

...but it is cute that you are trying to get me to support MY Tigers!!:D

let's bury the sox--i see twins have bosox tomorrow

[super cool ski instructor]

let's bury the sox--i see twins have bosox tomorrow
well...the BoSox are basically out of contention for the Wildcard...

[Andrew Jackson]

well...the BoSox are basically out of contention for the Wildcard...

you have to bring that up? iwant them to help Tigers and you are peeing in my oatmeal

[super cool ski instructor]

you have to bring that up? iwant them to help Tigers and you are peeing in my oatmeal
Well...I do believe they will beat the Twinkies...there...oatmeal taste a little better now?

[Andrew Jackson]

Well...I do believe they will beat the Twinkies...there...oatmeal taste a little better now?

much better when you sprinkle your special sugar on top:D

[super cool ski instructor]

much better when you sprinkle your special sugar on top:D
:)) :))

[Andrew Jackson]

polanco says he is out for season

[super cool ski instructor]

polanco says he is out for season
but hopefully he will return for the post seaon...so says Leyland (do you know who Leyland is;) )

[Andrew Jackson]

but hopefully he will return for the post seaon...so says Leyland (do you know who Leyland is;) )

bite me

[super cool ski instructor]

bite me
can't blame me for checking ;)

[Andrew Jackson]

can't blame me for checking ;)

i guess not-- i don't like to tested in front of the public

[super cool ski instructor]

i guess not-- i don't like to tested in front of the public
then we'll just keep the testing private.........;)

[Andrew Jackson]

then we'll just keep the testing private.........;)

will i need pen and a paper or will this be an oral test?

[super cool ski instructor]

will i need pen and a paper or will this be an oral test?
I prefer oral...that okay with you?

[Andrew Jackson]

I prefer oral...that okay with you?

probably easier to grade and none of those red pen marks

[super cool ski instructor]

probably easier to grade and none of those red pen marks
yeah...we don't want to damage your self esteem with the red pen :))

[Andrew Jackson]

yeah...we don't want to damage your self esteem with the red pen :))

i don't mind constructive criticism--learning is fun

[super cool ski instructor]

So...now that you are a Tigers fan tell me, who is your favorite player?

[Andrew Jackson]

So...now that you are a Tigers fan tell me, who is your favorite player?

verlander--i always liked pitchers

[super cool ski instructor]

verlander--i always liked pitchers
uh-huh!!! Everybody says Verlander....I just think it's because he was on SI and he's the only one you know ;)

[Andrew Jackson]

uh-huh!!! Everybody says Verlander....I just think it's because he was on SI and he's the only one you know ;)

maybe so---I know of Pudge and he isn't my favorite. I like my third basemen to be better hitters than Inge

[super cool ski instructor]

maybe so---I know of Pudge and he isn't my favorite. I like my third basemen to be better hitters than Inge
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

[Andrew Jackson]

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

:boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo:

[super cool ski instructor]

I'm not talking to you anymore AJ :snooty:

[Andrew Jackson]

I'm not talking to you anymore AJ :snooty:
:frown: :frown:

[super cool ski instructor]

:frown: :frown:
Poor Baby!!!!!!!!
Here is the man!!

http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/al/detroit/IngeDet.jpg

[Andrew Jackson]

Poor Baby!!!!!!!!
Here is the man!!

http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/al/detroit/IngeDet.jpg


looks like Travis Fryman to me

[super cool ski instructor]

looks like Travis Fryman to me
:evil: :hand: :hand:

[Andrew Jackson]

:evil: :hand: :hand:


:silenced:

[super cool ski instructor]

:silenced:
yes!!! stick with that babe!!!!

[super cool ski instructor]

Where did you go now!!!

[Andrew Jackson]

90% of baseball is half mental

[super cool ski instructor]

90% of baseball is half mental
huh???? That was random....;)

[Andrew Jackson]

i like my baseball thoughts to serve more than just the Tiger community

[super cool ski instructor]

i like my baseball thoughts to serve more than just the Tiger community
well okay....you do realize that this thread is for the Tiger community...sice you started it and all...

[Andrew Jackson]

i just can't contain myself

[super cool ski instructor]

i just can't contain myself
yes...if I had those words of wisdom bottled up inside of me, I wouldn't be able to contain myself either :razz:

[Andrew Jackson]

i am loaded with priceless gems and pearls of wisdom. remember what i said about the Dodgers

[super cool ski instructor]

i am loaded with priceless gems and pearls of wisdom. remember what i said about the Dodgers
babe...the Dodgers...well...hmmm....suck.....;)

[Andrew Jackson]

babe...the Dodgers...well...hmmm....suck.....;)

the only reason the Padres moved into first is because they have 10 former RedSox players---Dodgers or Pad will win the NL pennant

[super cool ski instructor]

the only reason the Padres moved into first is because they have 10 former RedSox players---Dodgers or Pad will win the NL pennant
You just keep believing that dear!!!!!

[Andrew Jackson]

You just keep believing that dear!!!!!

we all have to believe in something

[super cool ski instructor]

we all have to believe in something
yes we do...I will choose to believe in a winner though....

[Andrew Jackson]

yes we do...I will choose to believe in a winner though....

discussions today are turning out to be quite arduous

[super cool ski instructor]

discussions today are turning out to be quite arduous
awww...is baseball that hard of a topic for you to talk about?

[Andrew Jackson]

awww...is baseball that hard of a topic for you to talk about?

apparently if i am the only openminded participant in a discussion---to be kicked in the groin at the utterance of every statement makes one want to cover up and speak softly

[super cool ski instructor]

apparently if i am the only openminded participant in a discussion---to be kicked in the groin at the utterance of every statement makes one want to cover up and speak softly
someone is mighty defensive today...

[Andrew Jackson]

someone is mighty defensive today...

i have survived toughter threads than this, madam

[super cool ski instructor]

i have survived toughter threads than this, madam
madam?? I don't own a brothel...just a train ;)

[Andrew Jackson]

madam?? I don't own a brothel...just a train ;)

i will stick with Tiger talk and not lower myself to personal attacks. Dave Dombrowski and Jim Leyland are my models of doing things the right way and with passion

[super cool ski instructor]

i will stick with Tiger talk and not lower myself to personal attacks. Dave Dombrowski and Jim Leyland are my models of doing things the right way and with passion
you will not lower yourself to personal attacks? please tell me you aren't being serious...please!!!

[Andrew Jackson]

i will take the high road:angel:

[super cool ski instructor]

i will take the high road:angel:
Okay...I'm laughing at the angel smilie :))

[Andrew Jackson]

Okay...I'm laughing at the angel smilie :))

the angels will not make the playoffs--Tigers and Padres in Series

[super cool ski instructor]

the angels will not make the playoffs--Tigers and Padres in Series
okay...if you think anybody in the NL but the Mets are going...well...you are dreaming!!!

[Andrew Jackson]

okay...if you think anybody in the NL but the Mets are going...well...you are dreaming!!!

you will be proven wrong, but i will be a gentleman and not rub it in your face

[super cool ski instructor]

you will be proven wrong, but i will be a gentleman and not rub it in your face
If the Padres make it, I will ride a bicycle out to Cali and buy you a beer!!

[Andrew Jackson]

If the Padres make it, I will ride a bicycle out to Cali and buy you a beer!!


a frickin' budweiser

[super cool ski instructor]

a frickin' budweiser
You know I don't buy cheap beer!!!

[iamredbeard]

I am getting really worried that somehow we will not only lose the division but miss the playoff entirely.

[super cool ski instructor]

I am getting really worried that somehow we will not only lose the division but miss the playoff entirely.
redbeard...do NOT bring that negativiety here please!!!!! ;)

[Andrew Jackson]

keep rubbing your rabbits foot

[Andrew Jackson]

make a bet with Denny McLain

[super cool ski instructor]

keep rubbing your rabbits foot
don't have too....

[iamredbeard]

redbeard...do NOT bring that negativiety here please!!!!! ;)


Sorry, I am just way to accumstomed to being let down by teams from Michigan in general and Detroit in specific.

[Andrew Jackson]

Sorry, I am just way to accumstomed to being let down by teams from Michigan in general and Detroit in specific.

add Ford and GM

[super cool ski instructor]

Sorry, I am just way to accumstomed to being let down by teams from Michigan in general and Detroit in specific.
Well...we used to say the same thing about the Wings...

[Andrew Jackson]

think tigers-padres 2006 series and jack morris throws out first pitch

[super cool ski instructor]

think tigers-padres 2006 series and jack morris throws out first pitch
okay...I could deal with that....

[Andrew Jackson]

okay...I could deal with that....

Tigers in five

[super cool ski instructor]

Tigers in five
I can really deal with that!!!

[iamredbeard]

Well...we used to say the same thing about the Wings...


Wings are not immune for disapointment either. How many times have they won the President's Cup only to lose in the first or second round of the playoffs. :redface:

[super cool ski instructor]

Wings are not immune for disapointment either. How many times have they won the President's Cup only to lose in the first or second round of the playoffs. :redface:
but after years and years of dissapointments they finally work together as a team and win back to back. It's the same thing with the Tigers now... I think they could surprise you!!

[Andrew Jackson]

first thing is to take care of Chisox--now. the chisox have a tough schedul left--they can't make up 5 games IMO

[super cool ski instructor]

first thing is to take care of Chisox--now. the chisox have a tough schedul left--they can't make up 5 games IMO
Batter-Up!!! It's 8:05 Game Time!!!

[super cool ski instructor]

FINAL SCORE:

TIGERS: 8
CHISOX: 2

:dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:

[Andrew Jackson]

playoffs in the bag

[super cool ski instructor]

playoffs in the bag
I agree!! But...let's not jinx ourselves :D

[Andrew Jackson]

I agree!! But...let's not jinx ourselves :D

jinx is the Fockers cat---Tigers are destiny

[super cool ski instructor]

jinx is the Fockers cat---Tigers are destiny
Feisty again this morning huh!!! :D

[Andrew Jackson]

Feisty again this morning huh!!! :D

not feisty--confident and Born to be Bad