College Football Division II

[iamredbeard]

I grow tired of hearing about all of the talk about Division I football. So I decided to start this thread. I went to GVSU, although I never graduated from there so I'll just be here rooting for the Lakers to win yet another national title.

[2Parties1GlobalistGoal]

Is David "Circus" Kircus still in the NFL?

[Dual867PowerMac]

Is David "Circus" Kircus still in the NFL?
He plays for the Dolphins according to Wikipedia.

[iamredbeard]

Is David "Circus" Kircus still in the NFL?

The last I heard about him was when he was arrested, I think that was last year but it might have been two years ago. I did a quick search for him and ESPN has stats for him through the 2006 season so I would guess that the NFL is done with him. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=4633

[Beccaria]

GVSU?

I like Grand Rapids. Probably my favorite Michigan city.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

I'm not far from West Chester, PA, so they're my D2 interest. They got to the second round last year, if I remember correctly.

[scipio337]

I thought the playoff system can't work in college?

Go WU Bears, my grad school alma mater (and me short time running backs assistant coach)

[Dr. Funkenstein]

I thought the playoff system can't work in college?

Only when the school presidents don't think they can make money off of it.

[Lord of Mirrors]

Bumpage for the mighty Buffaloes of West Texas A&M University, where such greats as:

Mercury Morris
Duane Thomas
Terry Funk
Ted Dibiase
Dick Murdoch
Stan Hansen
Tully Blanchard
Maurice Cheeks (b-ball)
Reggie McElroy
Dusty Rhodes
Tito Santana
Chaun Thompson

...to name but a few....

Stomped mudholes in opponents in Kimbrough Memorial Stadium (http://gobuffsgo.cstv.com/kimbrough.html), and where today's Buffs are ranked #10 nationally.

GO BUFFS!!!!

[Lord of Mirrors]

Grand Valley State will be on the Buff's regular season schedule in 2010.... Hopefully we'll play them for the D2 championship this year.

[Lord of Mirrors]

Bump for the Buffs, who put their #9 national rank tonight up at #21 Mesa State. NOT a cakewalk by any means but watch out for future NFL greats Keithon Fleming (RB) and Keith Null (QB)

[iamredbeard]

This year my cable service picked up a channel that is going to have at least some of the GVSU's games this year. Go Lakers!!!

[Lord of Mirrors]

This year my cable service picked up a channel that is going to have at least some of the GVSU's games this year. Go Lakers!!!
They ranked #2 and no matter what are still the team to beat.

[iamredbeard]

They ranked #2 and no matter what are still the team to beat.

Thanks for your kind words about the school that I attended. As for them being the team to beat, well they didn't win the D2 title last year. :( Maybe they can win it again this year. :D

[Lord of Mirrors]

Thanks for your kind words about the school that I attended. As for them being the team to beat, well they didn't win the D2 title last year. :( Maybe they can win it again this year. :DWhen the Buffs and Lakers collide, gonna be a game for the ages. Long tradition and history, distinguished alumni, from both schools.

[iamredbeard]

When the Buffs and Lakers collide, gonna be a game for the ages. Long tradition and history, distinguished alumni, from both schools.

I'm sure that we'll have plenty to talk about when those schools meet. :D

[Dr. Funkenstein]

West Chester all the way!

(I don't know much about DII...I follow I-AA and III more)

[iamredbeard]

West Chester all the way!

(I don't know much about DII...I follow I-AA and III more)

Only reason I follow division II is because I went to GVSU. ;)

[Lord of Mirrors]

WTAM 23, Mesa State 20 it was blood and guts, not decided until the end.

Baptism by fire for the Buffaloes.

[Lord of Mirrors]

Azuza Pacific came all they way from Los Angeles to play the #6 ranked battlin' Buffs of West Texas A&M.

They might have wished they hadn't. When the smoke cleared in Kimbrough Stadium to where one could read the scoreboard, it was WTAM 75, Azuza 13.

Story here:
http://www.amarillo.com/stories/091408/wts_wtsports1.shtml

[PeterGriffin]

West Texas definitely rolled their NAIA opponent....lol.

[Lord of Mirrors]

West Texas definitely rolled their NAIA opponent....lol.Can't take ANY opponent lightly, can't let any elitism creep in, or that NAIA team will hang the 75 on YOU.

But yeah, no Idea how this game got scheduled, the two teams have met three times now in the last eight years, first two times were in L.A.

Next season, WT has GVS on the regular season schedule.

[Lord of Mirrors]

Wtam 42, swos 20

[iamredbeard]

GVSU, just keep rolling along. They are the class of their conference. It's all about getting ready for the playoffs and hopefully another title run. Go Lakers!

[Lord of Mirrors]

GVSU, just keep rolling along. They are the class of their conference. It's all about getting ready for the playoffs and hopefully another title run. Go Lakers!Hopefully a collision course with the Buffaloes...

[iamredbeard]

Hopefully a collision course with the Buffaloes...

It's possible. We'll have to wait till the season is over and see what the playoff bracket looks like.

[Lord of Mirrors]

It's possible. We'll have to wait till the season is over and see what the playoff bracket looks like.Next season..... On the regular season schedule.

[iamredbeard]

Next season..... On the regular season schedule.

Where is the game at? I haven't seen GVSU schedule for next season eyt.

[Lord of Mirrors]

Where is the game at? I haven't seen GVSU schedule for next season eyt.Not sure if it's in Kimbrough or not. Just know they'll be playing every season for awhile, and will trade hosting.

[Lord of Mirrors]

GVSU moves to #1, WTAM #4 in latest Div2 poll. Collision course is still engaged, Captain.

[iamredbeard]

GVSU moves to #1, WTAM #4 in latest Div2 poll. Collision course is still engaged, Captain.

We'll see what happens when the bracket comes out at the end of the season. Last year I thought both of our teams would be on opposite sides of the bracket, but it wasn't meant to be. What was worst is that our teams never met. That would have been some fun talking.

[Lord of Mirrors]

We'll see what happens when the bracket comes out at the end of the season. Last year I thought both of our teams would be on opposite sides of the bracket, but it wasn't meant to be. What was worst is that our teams never met. That would have been some fun talking.WTAM just finished wiping out the #17 team, Midwestern State, 42-14. The REAL problem is #3 Abilene Christian, who is in their conference and who the Buffs get at home Oct. 18.

[Lord of Mirrors]

What was worst is that our teams never met. That would have been some fun talking.I think GVSU would have wiped the floor with the Buffs last year. This year? Doubt it.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

Good to see California and Indiana of Pennsylvania are still in the rankings. Always loved those two.

And West Chester's lurking...only DII loss to California and gets to avoid Indiana in conference play.

[iamredbeard]

I think GVSU would have wiped the floor with the Buffs last year. This year? Doubt it.

It's hard to say. Last year the Lakers didn't even make it to the championship game.

[Lord of Mirrors]

The season is over, and the real games begin.

WTAM finished 10-1 and ranked #9 nationally, after wiping out #19 Tarleton State 51-0 in the final regular season game. I don't see the rankings taking into account the final week of play, but have to assume the Buffaloes would move up in ranking after their thrashing of the Texans.

Grand Valley State finished #1 and 10-0, and the playoff bracket has been released.

http://www.d2football.com/images/2008playoffbracket.gif

The only way the Lakers and Buffaloes would play is in the national championship game. WTAM must first get past Central Washington, at home then somehow beat Abliene Christian who handed them their only loss this season. However the Buffs are fully healthy now for the first time since week two this season, and have their first playoff game at home for the first time ever since joining Division 2.

GVSU and WTAM WILL collide in the regular season next year, however.

Here's wishing the best for the Lakers, may they find themselves in the national championship game vs. West Texas A&M this season!

[iamredbeard]

Go Lakers!

[Lord of Mirrors]

Which Buffalo team will show up in the playoffs? The one who shuts out nationally ranked teams 51-0? Or the one that got scragged by Abilene Christian?

Such drama in Div. 2 playoffs... Nothing beats it. No BCS, no AP, nothing decides the national champion except who wins the tournament.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

West Chester got in! :dance:

Host Southern Connecticut, and with a win head to Bloomsburg.

I have no idea if any of them are any kind of good.

[Lord of Mirrors]

Tomorrow's the day.

In Frank Kimbrough Memorial Stadium, 20,000 will pack in to watch WT's first ever playoff game at home.

The foe is a team that's almost the Buffaloes mirror image -- #5 nationally ranked Central Washington. They are one tough cookie, but are traveling thousands of miles to play.

And by the way Dr. Funk, West Chester at 8-3 is ranked #4 in Super Regional 1, S. Conn is #5. WC ranked 22 nationally.

[iamredbeard]

GVSU gets Ashland in the second round of the playoffs. They played last month with Grand Valley winning 48-42.

[Lord of Mirrors]

GVSU gets Ashland in the second round of the playoffs. They played last month with Grand Valley winning 48-42.WT defeated Central Washington 49-42 to advance to the second round, vs. Abilene Christian, who handed the Buffs their only loss this season.

Step by step, one by one....

[Lord of Mirrors]

Abilene Christian 93 West Texas A&M 68 and no, not a basketball score. Well over 1000 yards of offense generated in this battle of the #1 and #2 offenses in the country.

WT's done, and if ACU doesn't go on to win the national championship I'll be surprised.

[iamredbeard]

Lakers win again, next stop is against Minnesota-Duluth.

[iamredbeard]

Abilene Christian 93 West Texas A&M 68 and no, not a basketball score. Well over 1000 yards of offense generated in this battle of the #1 and #2 offenses in the country.

WT's done, and if ACU doesn't go on to win the national championship I'll be surprised.

That's a crazy score. Did the defense's take the day off? As for ACU winning the title, well I wouldn't be so quick to say that. My money is on GVSU.

[golfmonke2207]

What about Division IAA football then :)

I played at this level for Iona.

[Lord of Mirrors]

That's a crazy score. Did the defense's take the day off? As for ACU winning the title, well I wouldn't be so quick to say that. My money is on GVSU.Neither offense has been stopped or even slowed down much all year. It's somewhat surprising WT didn't fare better, having shut out #19 Tarleton only a few weeks ago, and holding ACU to 52 points in the 17 point loss when they played in the regular season. The 35 WT hung on them in that loss was the only game where ACU gave up more than 20 points all year.

WT limited Central Washington's high powered offense 49-42 last week, so yeah we're a little bit stunned in Buffalo land.

One thing I can point to, is early in the THIRD quarter, trailing by only 10, WT tried an onside kick. THEN followed that up with three more? All in the 3rd quarter, after scores. Onside kicks in the third quarter? Four in a row? None of them were successful, and all gave ACU the ball at or near the Buffs 40. Not good.

Only turnover in the game was a WT muffed punt early in the third after WT had stopped ACU cold on its first possession of the 2nd half. That gave the ball right back to ACU near the WT 40 as well. Two plays later? ACU touchdown.

The moral of the story seems to be, you can't give a monster like ACU a real short field to work with, FIVE times in a row.

That ACU offense is impossible to hold down even in the best circumstances. GVSU, if they wind up playing ACU, gonna have their hands full.

[iamredbeard]

Neither offense has been stopped or even slowed down much all year. It's somewhat surprising WT didn't fare better, having shut out #19 Tarleton only a few weeks ago, and holding ACU to 52 points in the 17 point loss when they played in the regular season. The 35 WT hung on them in that loss was the only game where ACU gave up more than 20 points all year.

WT limited Central Washington's high powered offense 49-42 last week, so yeah we're a little bit stunned in Buffalo land.

One thing I can point to, is early in the THIRD quarter, trailing by only 10, WT tried an onside kick. THEN followed that up with three more? All in the 3rd quarter, after scores. Onside kicks in the third quarter? Four in a row? None of them were successful, and all gave ACU the ball at or near the Buffs 40. Not good.

Only turnover in the game was a WT muffed punt early in the third after WT had stopped ACU cold on its first possession of the 2nd half. That gave the ball right back to ACU near the WT 40 as well. Two plays later? ACU touchdown.

The moral of the story seems to be, you can't give a monster like ACU a real short field to work with, FIVE times in a row.

That ACU offense is impossible to hold down even in the best circumstances. GVSU, if they wind up playing ACU, gonna have their hands full.

One step at a time. First they have to get past NW Missouri, and we have to get past Minnesota-Duluth.

[Lord of Mirrors]

One step at a time. First they have to get past NW Missouri, and we have to get past Minnesota-Duluth.The Booger Bearcats of NW Missouri are the ones who took WT out of the playoffs last year.

[iamredbeard]

The Booger Bearcats of NW Missouri are the ones who took WT out of the playoffs last year.

It seems that almost every year that they are in the Finals or the Semi-Finals.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

Abilene Christian 93 West Texas A&M 68 and no, not a basketball score. Well over 1000 yards of offense generated in this battle of the #1 and #2 offenses in the country.

WT's done, and if ACU doesn't go on to win the national championship I'll be surprised.

I saw that score on the ESPN bottom line and my first thought was "since when do they report D2 basketball scores?"

West Chester out too, bowing to Bloomsburg.

[Lord of Mirrors]

I saw that score on the ESPN bottom line and my first thought was "since when do they report D2 basketball scores?"It was surreal.

[Lord of Mirrors]

Home opener and week 1 for the West Texas A&M Buffaloes next season.... The Grand Valley State Lakers come to historic Kimbrough Stadium!

At long last!

[iamredbeard]

GVSU is really struggling today, down 7-6 at the half.

[iamredbeard]

GVSU scores a TD for just over a minute left to tie the game at 13-13. Now the game is headed into OT. Go Lakers!!!

[iamredbeard]

Lakers season is over. They lose in double OT, 19-13.

[Lord of Mirrors]

Lakers season is over. They lose in double OT, 19-13.That bites ass and is really hard to believe.

Next up for GVSU? The West Texas State Buffaloes!

[bbt630]

Just got back from the GVSU game. It was not a good showing by the Lakers at all.

Many bad passes...a few good ones dropped.

3 missed fg's for GVSU, including what would've been the game winner in the first ot.

[Lord of Mirrors]

Just got back from the GVSU game. It was not a good showing by the Lakers at all.

Many bad passes...a few good ones dropped.

3 missed fg's for GVSU, including what would've been the game winner in the first ot.Was it cold and windy? Crappy conditions?

[bbt630]

Was it cold and windy? Crappy conditions?

No. Sunny and 38-ish.

[Lord of Mirrors]

The d2football.com site has been down all day, now it's not even hosted anymore. Anyone know what happened?

[iamredbeard]

The d2football.com site has been down all day, now it's not even hosted anymore. Anyone know what happened?

Not sure, it worked fine earlier today.

[Lord of Mirrors]

Not sure, it worked fine earlier today.Google even has the error I was getting cached already...

It went down before as well, right after the games last week.

[Lord of Mirrors]

And by the way you were right... In a stunning shocker (to me at least) NW Missouri State DID IN Abilene Christian -- the one who hung 93 points on WTAM -- 45-36

[Lord of Mirrors]

ALL the home teams LOST this week! Bizarre!

Saturday, November 29, 2008
(7) California (PA) 27 (14) BLOOMSBURG 24
(3) NW Missouri St 45 (2) ABIL CHRISTIAN 36
(5) North Alabama 55 (4) DELTA STATE 34
(6) Minn-Duluth 19 (1) GRAND VALLEY ST 13(2nd OT)

[Lord of Mirrors]

Northwest Missouri State Bearcats LOST their fourth national championship game in a row, this time getting dispatched by Minnesota-Duluth.

[Lord of Mirrors]

Recruiting update: The West Texas A&M Buffaloes landed the cream of the area crop, signing the pair of twin brothers from repeat state champion Canadian high among the 78 entering freshmen signed to national letters of intent.

Broken down by position, the Buffaloes signed nine offensive linemen, seven quarterbacks, five running backs and 20 receivers. Defensively, they signed seven defensive linemen, 13 linebackers and 16 defensive backs, plus one kicker.

By contrast, season-opening opponent and annual national championship contender Grand Valley State only signed 36 new recruits.

Read all about the Buffs' recruited class, here:

http://www.d2football.com/viewnews.php?id=10038

[Lord of Mirrors]

One of last season's West Texas A&M Buffaloes was drafted to the NFL last week, QB Keith Null to the Rams in the 6th round. WR Charlie Martin signed a free agent contract with the Chargers as well!

Graham Harrell of Texas Tech wasn't drafted, but these Div. 2 Buffs are in the NFL!

The Rams and the Chargers are lucky to have these guys, fans of these teams should be very pleased. They lit up Div 2 four years in a row and both guys carry zero off-field baggage. Null is even married.