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hben
May 18th, 2008, 3:17 am
Most believers would probably say that God has blessed them beyone measure throughout their lifetimes. I'd like to ask you to stop and think for a moment, and then tell us what is the greatest thing God has ever done for you. I know dying for all of our sins was probably the greatest, so maybe I should have clarified and requested the second greatest thing He's ever done. ;)

hben
May 18th, 2008, 3:46 am
Most believers would probably say that God has blessed them beyone measure throughout their lifetimes. I'd like to ask you to stop and think for a moment, and then tell us what is the greatest thing God has ever done for you. I know dying for all of our sins was probably the greatest, so maybe I should have clarified and requested the second greatest thing He's ever done. ;)

Eighteen years and two months ago, He gave me my wife. And sixteen years and about eleven months ago, he gave me my daughter. That isn't even counting my son, stepson, daughter in law and three grandchildren. If I hadn't met my wife, I probably wouldn't be around now, because she made me go in and have all sorts of test run to find out why I wasn't feeling well, and they discovered that I had an incurable disease that should have killed me. Instead, I was given treatments, and I am still around to tell about it thanks to the grace of my precious Lord. That has been over ten years ago. Then about four years ago, my granddaughter (then three) was diagnosed with a rare type of cancer, but again by the grace of God the doctors at M.D. Anderson Cancer Hospital were able to amputate her index finger and get the cancer. She is cancer free and doing great. I have so many things to be thankful for, but these are just a few for now. Hopefully, someone else will share some great things that God has done for them, too.

Gunslinger
May 18th, 2008, 3:51 am
I was born, which I Consider to be a blessing.

I woke up this morning.

I have a loving wife and family.

God does something great for me every day I wake up in the morning to start a new day.

hben
May 18th, 2008, 3:59 am
I was born, which I Consider to be a blessing.

I woke up this morning.

I have a loving wife and family.

God does something great for me every day I wake up in the morning to start a new day.

I agree. Sometimes the biggest blessings are right in front of us, and we tend to overlook them if we stay busy being busy.

Mobulis
May 18th, 2008, 4:27 am
Nothing that I know of.

thomasereese
May 18th, 2008, 6:32 am
The obvious being giving me life and the fact that He died for us. As for me personally, God put me into a great family with a healthy body. I never knew hunger and always had a place to sleep every night of my life. My parents taught me right from wrong. They both died young (45 and 52) yet had enough time with us to give us the basic lessons needed to provide for ourselves. At times I did not feel that it was fair that I had to experience their deaths long before my friends lost their grandparents. My dad died when I was 12, but I would gladly have those 12 years with him than 50 years with some of the dads I hear about. My mother had 6 kids by the time she was 30 (and my brother was mentally retarted and handicapped), she was a widow by the time she was 40, and fighting cancer by the time she was 50. Everyone that knew her tells me how kind she was to them, and she never complained about her situation. I am truly blessed.

LeroyBrown
May 18th, 2008, 9:40 am
He allows me to serve Him by teaching children about Him.

Warrior4God
May 18th, 2008, 1:30 pm
Salvation through his Son Christ Jesus and the hope of his return.

Old Tex
May 18th, 2008, 1:47 pm
The "greatest" thing. I don't know, but one of the most significant things was to guide the LDS missionares to my house about 50 years ago.

Long Island Bob
May 18th, 2008, 1:59 pm
He is still doing it everyday.

He allows me to borrow my son and my wife from Him.

hben
May 19th, 2008, 3:05 pm
He is still doing it everyday.

He allows me to borrow my son and my wife from Him.

Amen. I can surely appreciate that thought.

And in the case of my household, my wife and daughter are allowed to borrow from me. :)) But that's ok, since it is my Lord who allows me to go out and earn another dollar to replace the ones that are loaned out. :razz:

Marleysdaddy
May 19th, 2008, 3:21 pm
I know dying for all of our sins was probably the greatest, so maybe I should have clarified and requested the second greatest thing He's ever done. ;)

Shouldn't you change the title to " What is the greatest thing JESUS has ever done for you?"
The god of the Jews didn't die for their sins.
The god of the Muslims didn't die for their sins.
The god of the Hindus didn't die for their sins.

hben
May 19th, 2008, 3:43 pm
Shouldn't you change the title to " What is the greatest thing JESUS has ever done for you?"
The god of the Jews didn't die for their sins.
The god of the Muslims didn't die for their sins.
The god of the Hindus didn't die for their sins.

God with a capital G is God, so I don't see the problem with the statement. And since Jesus died for the whole world which includes all Jews, Muslims and Hindus, I don't see any problem with that part either. So I don't see a need to change the Title or any part of the O.P. :cool:

super cool ski instructor
May 19th, 2008, 3:50 pm
It's the "little things".

As mentioned before, allowing me to wake up in the morning.

Also allowing me, and my loved ones, to get to and from work safetly every single day.


Allowing me to have a roof over my head, and food on my table.


It's the things that we usually take for granted that mean the most to me, because I don't deserve these things, let alone "bigger things".

Marleysdaddy
May 19th, 2008, 3:56 pm
God with a capital G is God, so I don't see the problem with the statement.

No, you choose to write the name of the god of Abraham as 'God' with a capital G...that is not god's name...Someone who is Zoroastrian would also refer to their god as 'God' with a capital G, and be talking about a completely different entity from your god.

And since Jesus died for the whole world which includes all Jews, Muslims and Hindus, I don't see any problem with that part either.

My point was that if a Jew, or Muslim, or Hindu, etc. read your post, they would be confused, since their god didn't die for them, and they don't think Jesus was a god.

5thIDSoldier
May 19th, 2008, 4:02 pm
I would have to say my wife and kids. They bring me more joy than they will ever know.

hben
May 19th, 2008, 4:08 pm
No, you choose to write the name of the god of Abraham as 'God' with a capital G...that is not god's name...Someone who is Zoroastrian would also refer to their god as 'God' with a capital G, and be talking about a completely different entity from your god.

Now you are confusing me. If my post referred to the god of other religions, then they can repond accordingly...no problem. But if they don't call their deities by the name "God", then they shouldn't respond. Either way, I still don't see you problem with the post. You seem to be contradicting your own argument.

My point was that if a Jew, or Muslim, or Hindu, etc. read your post, they would be confused, since their god didn't die for them, and they don't think Jesus was a god.

I think any Jews, Muslims or Hindu's who participate in this Religion Forum will be able to figure out that I was referring to Jesus whether they agree or not. And if their god has done anything for them, I would think they would want to share that as well.

hben
May 19th, 2008, 4:14 pm
I would have to say my wife and kids. They bring me more joy than they will ever know.

I like your "sig line". I can relate. I thought about keeping a gun under my pulpit, but I decided to leave it in the truck parked outside. :cool:

Marleysdaddy
May 19th, 2008, 4:22 pm
Now you are confusing me. If my post referred to the god of other religions, then they can repond accordingly...no problem.

Except for this part of your post, in which you say 'god' but mean 'Jesus'...
I'd like to ask you to stop and think for a moment, and then tell us what is the greatest thing God has ever done for you. I know dying for all of our sins was probably the greatest...

which made me think that your post DIDN'T refer to gods of other religions...if it does, great. That is all the clarification I desired.

Dancer
May 19th, 2008, 4:26 pm
Revealing his love for me has been pretty great...

The gift of my husband and kids have been pretty great...

The miracles he has performed in my life when I needed them have been pretty great.

I think the greatest thing he has ever done for me is to be there for me when I needed him.

Gidon
May 19th, 2008, 4:37 pm
He always looks out for me. People say I'm lucky. But I know it's Him. He has given me the ability to rebuild my life and has healed me. His hand is with me.

hben
May 19th, 2008, 5:15 pm
He always looks out for me. People say I'm lucky. But I know it's Him. He has given me the ability to rebuild my life and has healed me. His hand is with me.

I don't believe in luck. "If God be for us, who can be against us?" :)

Marleysdaddy
May 19th, 2008, 5:20 pm
I don't believe in luck. "If God be for us, who can be against us?" :)

a different god ;)

darknessesedge
May 19th, 2008, 5:49 pm
Most believers would probably say that God has blessed them beyone measure throughout their lifetimes. I'd like to ask you to stop and think for a moment, and then tell us what is the greatest thing God has ever done for you. I know dying for all of our sins was probably the greatest, so maybe I should have clarified and requested the second greatest thing He's ever done. ;)

"Most believers would probably say that God has blessed them beyone measure throughout their lifetimes"..I would not say that at all.

ChristianDem
May 19th, 2008, 6:09 pm
His forgiveness.

bsleplatt
May 19th, 2008, 8:27 pm
His love. Not only did He die for my sins, but there is no way I can ever equal what He has done for me, and yet...He doesn't expect me to. He gave me life. Not just all those times in my life when He has held me in the palm of His hand, Allowed me to survive things....that others did not....But given me another day to serve Him. In every difficulty, He was there. In ever joy, He was there. He shared with me the greatest moments of my life, and the lowest moments of my life. His Constant Presence In my life. That is the best thing He has done for me.

poorblackman
May 19th, 2008, 10:46 pm
Shouldn't you change the title to " What is the greatest thing JESUS has ever done for you?"
The god of the Jews didn't die for their sins.
The god of the Muslims didn't die for their sins.
The god of the Hindus didn't die for their sins.

Jews, Muslims, Christians all have the same god.

darknessesedge
May 19th, 2008, 10:47 pm
Jews, Muslims, Christians all have the same god.

yes..they differ on saviors/prophet.

Marleysdaddy
May 20th, 2008, 10:22 am
Jews, Muslims, Christians all have the same god.

Yes...I know, but they all have different views of Jesus.

hben
May 20th, 2008, 10:36 am
Yes...I know, but they all have different views of Jesus.

According to Jesus, that would reflect who their god is.

samurai7
May 20th, 2008, 1:05 pm
John 3:16

Jesus died for me, that I don't have to die and go to hell. That is the greatest gift ever.

geauxtohell
May 20th, 2008, 3:34 pm
Most believers would probably say that God has blessed them beyone measure throughout their lifetimes. I'd like to ask you to stop and think for a moment, and then tell us what is the greatest thing God has ever done for you. I know dying for all of our sins was probably the greatest, so maybe I should have clarified and requested the second greatest thing He's ever done. ;)

I think, considering the near infinite size of the universe contrasted with the number of planets that are hospitable to human life, that any human born on earth has won the intergalactic lottery, whose odds make winning powerball seem like a trivial thing.

So, through whatever mechanism he did it through, I think God putting the matter on this earth that would eventually become me (and others) would be the greatedst thing he has ever done for me.

Gidon
May 20th, 2008, 3:58 pm
Jews, Muslims, Christians all have the same god.

Jews and Christians do but the muslims do not.

The nature of the God of Israel is a God of peace, mercy and grace. His name Is YHWH meaning 'I AM' or 'THAT WHICH IS'

alla is from polythiestic Arab tribes. alla was derived from the moon god alilah. (explains the crescent moon). alla's nature is to punish disobedience and kill or convert non believers. in his 99 excellent names the word love is never mentioned.

Marleysdaddy
May 20th, 2008, 4:14 pm
Jews and Christians do but the muslims do not.
Every religious scholar I have ever read disagrees with you...do you have any sources who support this claim?


alla is from polythiestic Arab tribes. alla was derived from the moon god alilah. (explains the crescent moon). alla's nature is to punish disobedience and kill or convert non believers. in his 99 excellent names the word love is never mentioned.

I see no mention of the moon god here...rather it looks like a contraction of 'sole' and 'god'
Etymology
The term Allāh is most likely derived from a contraction of the Arabic article al- and ʾilāh "deity, god" to al-lāh meaning "the [sole] deity, God" (ho theos monos).[4] Another theory traces the etymology of the word to the Aramaic Alāhā.[4] Cognates of the name "Allāh" exist in other Semitic languages, including Hebrew and Aramaic.[3] The corresponding Aramaic form is אֱלָהָא ˀĔlāhā in Biblical Aramaic and ܐܰܠܳܗܳܐ ˀAlâhâ or ˀĀlōho in Syriac.[10] The term Allah is always used in the singular form; the plural form of the term does not exist in the Arabic language.[11]

The contraction of al- and ʾilāh in forming the term Allāh (“the deity” in the masculine form) parallels the contraction of al- and ʾilāha in forming the term al-Lāt (“the deity” in the feminine form). [12]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah

Christians and Jews who speak Arabic call their god "Allah"
Allah (Arabic: الله, Allāh, IPA: [ʔalˤːɑːh]) is the standard Arabic word for "God".[1] While the term is best known in the West for its use by Muslims as a reference to God, it is used by Arabic-speakers of all Abrahamic faiths, including Christians and Jews, in reference to "God".[2][1][3] The term was also used by pagan Meccans as a reference to the creator-god, possibly the supreme deity in pre-Islamic Arabia.[4]

merryAtheist
May 20th, 2008, 5:03 pm
The best thing God has done is to become irrelevant in my life.

terri910
May 20th, 2008, 5:31 pm
The greatest thing....no, the greatest things....(in order of apperance)

Jesus
Eleanor
Lawrence
Nicholas
Michael

darknessesedge
May 20th, 2008, 10:17 pm
John 3:16

Jesus died for me, that I don't have to die and go to hell. That is the greatest gift ever.

agreed

Mortis
May 20th, 2008, 10:19 pm
My two sons.

Kazsirk
May 21st, 2008, 10:14 am
Ok wow

the greatest thing that God did for me aside from salvation and all that I gain without earning in the kingdom....

it is during the low points of my life when my back was against the wall and the wolves where at the door and even my family and friends where backing away from me and I did not want to look in the mirror and it seemed like every thing I touched failed or became irrelevant in my hand... that God did great things.

It was not when I had accolades of men and popularity and celebrity and when I had money to burn and time on my hands and gifts from strangers that God did great things in my heart.

I learned the hard way the lessons of the Fruit of God Spirit (Gal 5:22-23) when I watched in horror my headstrong Sister and her family and my own mother go into spiritual rebellion against our church leadership and they fell into the most ridiculous battle and they tried to drag me into thier offese and tried to force me to quit my job at the church. Imagine drawing a line in the sand, forcing me to choose between my calling to God and them and thier pride and I chose my calling to God. I witnessed people who spent 25 years sitting under the Jesus tree but God revealed to me they sat ther against the bark but never ate the fruit.

they divorced me and my wife and our 4 children and will not see them or us to this day. It has been 4 years.

In that place God planted something worthwhile. I became a pastor and now I preach about the fruit of the spirit every week.
Kazsirk

hben
May 21st, 2008, 10:26 am
Ok wow

the greatest thing that God did for me aside from salvation and all that I gain without earning in the kingdom....

it is during the low points of my life when my back was against the wall and the wolves where at the door and even my family and friends where backing away from me and I did not want to look in the mirror and it seemed like every thing I touched failed or became irrelevant in my hand... that God did great things.

It was not when I had accolades of men and popularity and celebrity and when I had money to burn and time on my hands and gifts from strangers that God did great things in my heart.

I learned the hard way the lessons of the Fruit of God Spirit (Gal 5:22-23) when I watched in horror my headstrong Sister and her family and my own mother go into spiritual rebellion against our church leadership and they fell into the most ridiculous battle and they tried to drag me into thier offese and tried to force me to quit my job at the church. Imagine drawing a line in the sand, forcing me to choose between my calling to God and them and thier pride and I chose my calling to God. I witnessed people who spent 25 years sitting under the Jesus tree but God revealed to me they sat ther against the bark but never ate the fruit.

they divorced me and my wife and our 4 children and will not see them or us to this day. It has been 4 years.

In that place God planted something worthwhile. I became a pastor and now I preach about the fruit of the spirit every week.
Kazsirk

Thanks for that testimony. I can to relate to much of it. ;)

5thIDSoldier
May 21st, 2008, 10:33 am
I like your "sig line". I can relate. I thought about keeping a gun under my pulpit, but I decided to leave it in the truck parked outside. :cool:

:))

Seriously, my salvation and my family are blessings which God has given me that there is no comparison to. I wouldn't be able to replace that with all the money in the world.

signcut
May 21st, 2008, 10:55 am
He has allowed me to make all my mistakes, and to learn from them, so that I could come to the point I am in my life now, with many blessings, of health, love, and family. He has shown me the light, and the path; it is incumbent on me to follow that path, and keep that light.

HardHammer
May 21st, 2008, 11:41 am
He found me worthy to know Him, for I know, certainly, I am not worthy. By His Grace through Faith in Jesus, I know His love and He mine...

Frazzled
May 21st, 2008, 11:44 am
I was blessed to be born into a family that had a strong testimony of the truthfulness of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Thor
May 21st, 2008, 11:57 am
I'd like to ask you to stop and think for a moment, and then tell us what is the greatest thing God has ever done for you. ;)

Wait! Let me think about this for a minute.......

Well, when I was a child I prayed to "God" for my grandmother to be cured.

She died.

I also prayed for my dog to be healed after he got hit by a car.

He died.

I also prayed for my grandfather to have good health.

He had a stroke.

Looks like my answer would be "nothing".

Kazsirk
May 21st, 2008, 12:19 pm
Wait! Let me think about this for a minute.......

Well, when I was a child I prayed to "God" for my grandmother to be cured.

She died.

I also prayed for my dog to be healed after he got hit by a car.

He died.

I also prayed for my grandfather to have good health.

He had a stroke.

Looks like my answer would be "nothing".

As a child he was with you as you cried for your grandmother and later for your grandfather he was even there as you cried for your dog. He was there for several other events in your life that did not go as you would have wanted.

He did not say if you pray you will live a fairy tale existance where every thing you pray for will instantly materialize. He promised to be ther with you. And He was.

God did things for you that improved your heart and enlightened your mind and unburdened you. He placed some key people in your life to be your help at a time you did not know you needed help. and they did.

He also did things you will never see on your behalf that protected you from evil and you cannot help but take that for granted because you did not witness his hand on it and the tragic situation was averted and you where preserved.

not wanting to give him credit for any part of your life is lame. stop and notice you can breath, and think and eat and sleep and you have a pulse there are a million trillion things that could happen to stop all that.

Thor is fitting the name of a small "g" god and the root word for thursday not quite there but ...almost payday.

you are almost to payday mr. thor blinders fall off on payday and you win the lotto and become Gods heir if you just see past your flesh long enough to see His spirit.

good luck thursday

bsleplatt
May 21st, 2008, 12:23 pm
As a child he was with you as you cried for your grandmother and later for your grandfather he was even there as you cried for your dog. He was there for several other events in your life that did not go as you would have wanted.

He did not say if you pray you will live a fairy tale existance where every thing you pray for will instantly materialize. He promised to be ther with you. and he was.

Go did things for you that improved your heart and enlightened your mind and unburdened you. He placed some key people in your life to be your help at a time you did not know you needed help and they did.

He also did things you will never see on your behalf that protected you from evil and you cannot help but take that for granted because you did not witness his hand on it and the tragic situation was averted and you where preserved.

not wanting to give him credit for any part of your life is lame. stop and notice you can breath, and think and eat and sleep and you have a pulse there are a million trillion things that could happen to stop all that.

Thor is fitting the name of a small "g" god and the root word for thursday not quite there but ...almost payday.

you are almost to payday mr. thor blinders fall off on payday and you win the lotto and become Gods heir if you just see past your flesh long enough to see His spirit.

good luck thursday

what a wonderful post.

I think of John 16:33. And Jesus Said, "In this world, you will have difficulties. Take heart, I have overcome the world."

A prayer is not the solution to a problem, it is the asking of help through difficult times. God promised us we would have those. Just because our prayers are not answered how we want, does not mean He didnt answer. We just didnt like the answer He gave us.

Kazsirk
May 21st, 2008, 12:39 pm
what a wonderful post.

I think of John 16:33. And Jesus Said, "In this world, you will have difficulties. Take heart, I have overcome the world."

A prayer is not the solution to a problem, it is the asking of help through difficult times. God promised us we would have those. Just because our prayers are not answered how we want, does not mean He didnt answer. We just didnt like the answer He gave us.

Many times people have their own answer they even say thier own answer yet remain blind to it.

in Thursdays case he layed out his proof that God either did not care or did not exist but he named three of the times in his life that he most felt the love of God.

It was in his agony that God tried to comfort him however his flesh would not let his spirit see God in it and now from his own heart he pokes God with a stick from his memory but the memories he pick where the very ones where God was as close to him as his own heartbeat.

Funny that you and I can see that but thursday (Thor) can't .

but he is here in this space complaining so that tells me and you that he is near payday that friday is coming.
interesting
Kazsirk

captusa
May 21st, 2008, 2:40 pm
What is the greatest thing God has ever done for you?

Remained anonymous and not bothered me.

Cearúilín
May 21st, 2008, 2:50 pm
Deleting my post

geauxtohell
May 21st, 2008, 3:29 pm
Jesus heard my prayers before my daughter died. She accepted him as her Lord and Savior three months before she went to heaven.

Sorry for your loss.

Cearúilín
May 21st, 2008, 3:42 pm
Sorry for your loss.
Thank you very much.

ISYairio
May 21st, 2008, 4:42 pm
I was not aborted like the sibling that came before me.

In the past, I used to sometimes fall asleep when I would cook... my house hasn't burned down on me yet (usually happens with ramen). Actually, it happened again not too long ago... :redface:

Thor
May 21st, 2008, 5:02 pm
Just because our prayers are not answered how we want, does not mean He didnt answer. We just didnt like the answer He gave us.

Ah, yes. The old "sometimes the answer is no" rationalization.

Dear God, we ask in your name that all blind people be given sight today. Amen.

God: No

Thor
May 21st, 2008, 5:26 pm
Many times people have their own answer they even say thier own answer yet remain blind to it.Kazsirk

It makes me "blind" if I don't see something that isn't there?

in Thursdays case he layed out his proof that God either did not care or did not exist but he named three of the times in his life that he most felt the love of God.


Excuse me, but I NEVER said I "felt the love of God". This is nothing but an unsubstantiated assumption on your part.

It was in his agony that God tried to comfort him however his flesh would not let his spirit see God in it and now from his own heart he pokes God with a stick from his memory but the memories he pick where the very ones where God was as close to him as his own heartbeat.


If this god was trying to comfort me he did a pretty lousy job. I was a child when these events took place and at that time I was a believer. I probably would have looked upon any comforting presence as a sign from "god". Never happened.

Funny that you and I can see that but thursday (Thor) can't .

Yeah, I'm just so blind. Interesting that you seem to be able to see things that aren't there...

Thor
May 21st, 2008, 5:36 pm
As a child he was with you as you cried for your grandmother and later for your grandfather he was even there as you cried for your dog. He was there for several other events in your life that did not go as you would have wanted.

This is the typical vacuous platitude I've come to expect from believers. No matter how great the tragedy, "God" was somehow "with you". This makes as much sense as saying that Lucky the Leprechaun was "with you" during times of strife.

Sorry, but during these bad times I felt no "comforting presence". I only felt sadness and sorrow. If this god truly wanted to wipe away my tears he could have come to me and said, "Fear not, my child. For your grandmother is with me." Now THAT would have been comforting.

He did not say if you pray you will live a fairy tale existance where every thing you pray for will instantly materialize. He promised to be ther with you. And He was.


Actually, there are a number of places in the Bible where Jesus says that if you believe and you pray to him whatever you ask for shall be yours.

God did things for you that improved your heart and enlightened your mind and unburdened you. He placed some key people in your life to be your help at a time you did not know you needed help. and they did.

More vacuous platitudes.

He also did things you will never see on your behalf that protected you from evil and you cannot help but take that for granted because you did not witness his hand on it and the tragic situation was averted and you where preserved.


If this is true, then how do you explain all the people who are killed or severely injured every day? Does this god pick and choose just who will be spared at any given moment?

not wanting to give him credit for any part of your life is lame. stop and notice you can breath, and think and eat and sleep and you have a pulse there are a million trillion things that could happen to stop all that.


Why should I credit your god? Why not credit Apollo? Or Allah? Or Vishnu? Or King Midas?

bsleplatt
May 21st, 2008, 6:50 pm
Ah, yes. The old "sometimes the answer is no" rationalization.

Dear God, we ask in your name that all blind people be given sight today. Amen.

God: No

Do you know who Fanny Crosby is?

Not long after birth, she became blind. Despite being a women, and being blind....she went on to write over 8,000 hymns of praise.

She never looked at her disability as a bad thing...She said instead,

It seemed intended by the blessed providence of God that I should be blind all my life, and I thank him for the dispensation. If perfect earthly sight were offered me tomorrow I would not accept it. I might not have sung hymns to the praise of God if I had been distracted by the beautiful and interesting things about me.

She also once said, "when I get to heaven, the first face that shall ever gladden my sight will be that of my Savior!"

She really was an amazing person...but she was who she was because of her blindness. It was not a bad thing in her life...but a blessing.

Sometimes, even the darkest moments of our lives....are for our own good and our own blessings.

Fanny Crosby wrote one of my favorite hymns.... Near the Cross.
Jesus, keep me near the cross,
There a precious fountain
Free to all, a healing stream
Flows from Calvary’s mountain.

Refrain

In the cross, in the cross,
Be my glory ever;
Till my raptured soul shall find
Rest beyond the river.

Near the cross, a trembling soul,
Love and mercy found me;
There the bright and morning star
Sheds its beams around me.

Refrain

Near the cross! O Lamb of God,
Bring its scenes before me;
Help me walk from day to day,
With its shadows o’er me.

Refrain

Near the cross I’ll watch and wait
Hoping, trusting ever,
Till I reach the golden strand,
Just beyond the river.

Refrain

What I love about that hymn....life is hard....like the verse I quoted...Christ never told us it would be easy. but what he did say, was he was there for us. And even in those dark times....We can find rest in Him.

Mikko
May 21st, 2008, 7:09 pm
Most believers would probably say that God has blessed them beyone measure throughout their lifetimes. I'd like to ask you to stop and think for a moment, and then tell us what is the greatest thing God has ever done for you. I know dying for all of our sins was probably the greatest, so maybe I should have clarified and requested the second greatest thing He's ever done. ;)

Every good thing in my existence came from God. Everything else came from my own foolishness.

Sceptic
May 21st, 2008, 9:53 pm
If you believe that "God" is responsible for the things you have listed above, then it's clear what the best hting he did for me was.

He killed my sister when I was 10.

Went down really well with my parents, that.

darknessesedge
May 21st, 2008, 10:01 pm
Ah, yes. The old "sometimes the answer is no" rationalization.

Dear God, we ask in your name that all blind people be given sight today. Amen.

God: No

he only does it if it brings himslf glory
God does all things to glorify himself.

Sceptic
May 22nd, 2008, 12:20 am
he only does it if it brings himslf glory
God does all things to glorify himself.

Bit of an arrogant, self-centred egotist then, isn't he?

Tucson Jim
May 22nd, 2008, 12:33 am
Bit of an arrogant, self-centred egotist then, isn't he?

Not at all. Since He is God, He deserves all glory! It is only right that he receives all glory.

On the other hand, if you, for example, were to want all glory, THAT would be self centered and egotistical.

Thor
May 22nd, 2008, 3:02 pm
Do you know who Fanny Crosby is?

Not long after birth, she became blind. Despite being a women, and being blind....she went on to write over 8,000 hymns of praise.

She never looked at her disability as a bad thing...She said instead,

It seemed intended by the blessed providence of God that I should be blind all my life, and I thank him for the dispensation. If perfect earthly sight were offered me tomorrow I would not accept it. I might not have sung hymns to the praise of God if I had been distracted by the beautiful and interesting things about me.

She also once said, "when I get to heaven, the first face that shall ever gladden my sight will be that of my Savior!"

She really was an amazing person...but she was who she was because of her blindness. It was not a bad thing in her life...but a blessing.

Sometimes, even the darkest moments of our lives....are for our own good and our own blessings.

Fanny Crosby wrote one of my favorite hymns.... Near the Cross.
Jesus, keep me near the cross,
There a precious fountain
Free to all, a healing stream
Flows from Calvary’s mountain.

Refrain

In the cross, in the cross,
Be my glory ever;
Till my raptured soul shall find
Rest beyond the river.

Near the cross, a trembling soul,
Love and mercy found me;
There the bright and morning star
Sheds its beams around me.

Refrain

Near the cross! O Lamb of God,
Bring its scenes before me;
Help me walk from day to day,
With its shadows o’er me.

Refrain

Near the cross I’ll watch and wait
Hoping, trusting ever,
Till I reach the golden strand,
Just beyond the river.

Refrain

What I love about that hymn....life is hard....like the verse I quoted...Christ never told us it would be easy. but what he did say, was he was there for us. And even in those dark times....We can find rest in Him.

And this proves..... what? That there was once a woman who was so deluded that she was thankful for being blind?

And she wrote many "hymns of praise"? Again, so what? What if I could find someone who was blind and wrote many hymns of praise to Apollo? What would that prove?

And I doubt you could find too many sightless people who would tell you their blindness is a "blessing". I'd be willing to bet that nearly 100% of them would say that they would do pretty much anything if it would restore their sight.

Thor
May 22nd, 2008, 3:05 pm
he only does it if it brings himslf glory
God does all things to glorify himself.

So restoring the sight of all the blind people on Earth wouldn't bring him "glory"? Are you kidding? If this were to happen, people would sing the praises of this being!

buflineks
May 22nd, 2008, 3:28 pm
Gave me the miracle of my daughter.

bsleplatt
May 22nd, 2008, 6:24 pm
And this proves..... what? That there was once a woman who was so deluded that she was thankful for being blind?

And she wrote many "hymns of praise"? Again, so what? What if I could find someone who was blind and wrote many hymns of praise to Apollo? What would that prove?

And I doubt you could find too many sightless people who would tell you their blindness is a "blessing". I'd be willing to bet that nearly 100% of them would say that they would do pretty much anything if it would restore their sight.

actually there are many people who have disabilities who oppose operations that would restore sight, hearing, etc.. There are organized groups against such things. That there is nothing wrong with having a disability.

Thor
May 23rd, 2008, 5:54 pm
actually there are many people who have disabilities who oppose operations that would restore sight, hearing, etc.. There are organized groups against such things. That there is nothing wrong with having a disability.

So there are blind people who don't want to see? Deaf people who don't want to hear? Paralyzed people who don't want to walk? This does not sound rational to me.

hben
April 20th, 2009, 6:55 pm
Eighteen years and two months ago, He gave me my wife. And sixteen years and about eleven months ago, he gave me my daughter. That isn't even counting my son, stepson, daughter in law and three grandchildren. If I hadn't met my wife, I probably wouldn't be around now, because she made me go in and have all sorts of test run to find out why I wasn't feeling well, and they discovered that I had an incurable disease that should have killed me. Instead, I was given treatments, and I am still around to tell about it thanks to the grace of my precious Lord. That has been over ten years ago. Then about four years ago, my granddaughter (then three) was diagnosed with a rare type of cancer, but again by the grace of God the doctors at M.D. Anderson Cancer Hospital were able to amputate her index finger and get the cancer. She is cancer free and doing great. I have so many things to be thankful for, but these are just a few for now. Hopefully, someone else will share some great things that God has done for them, too.

I just wanted to update this thread that has been off the charts for a while.

LATEST UPDATE:

God spared my daughter's life on April 7th when she turned in front of an oncoming vehicle which was going somewhere between 55 and 70 mph. That was a couple of weeks ago, and she is in the healing process after having broken a colar bone and a bone in her ankle. She is not letting he confinement to a wheelchair for 6 weeks slow her down much. She went to her Senior Prom last Saturday night and is now gone to a softball game to support her team in tonight's game. I took her to her District Track Meet last Wednesday and Thursday, and we had a couple of good days out cheering for her team mates. Most everyone felt that if she had been able to participate in the meet that her track team would have won, but instead, they came in 4th place. It was unusual, but there were only 10 points between the 1st place and 4th place teams, and she normally would have made much more than 10 points herself which is why everyone felt that she would have made the difference. So I guess you could say it was both bitter and sweet for her.

Needless to say, something good is coming out of her car wreck. We are spending more quality time together than we would have otherwise, and "Dad" is thankful for that. I won't speak of my daughter since teenagers like to speak for themselves. LOL

Dancer
April 20th, 2009, 7:02 pm
Sent Jesus.

gpd®
April 20th, 2009, 8:34 pm
Sent Jesus.

...to abolish my shame and guilt.

hben
April 20th, 2009, 8:40 pm
actually there are many people who have disabilities who oppose operations that would restore sight, hearing, etc.. There are organized groups against such things. That there is nothing wrong with having a disability.

Practically every Christian with some sort of disability that I have ever known has seen more of the fruit of the Spirit produced in their lives than the average Christian has, so I definitely have seen the good that comes from disabilities and sickness. I believe God has received more glory in such cases than if He had healed them instantly.

Stardust
April 20th, 2009, 9:03 pm
He gave me faith in Him, of which I am eternally grateful.

Koushi Shinigami
April 20th, 2009, 9:05 pm
I'm waiting to see.

smyrna
April 20th, 2009, 11:43 pm
John 10:28 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=50&chapter=10&verse=28&version=47&context=verse)
I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.

Jacob_Rising
April 21st, 2009, 11:24 am
April 9th 2009, My first grandson, The one thing I have always prayed for. grandchildren and great grandchildren.

hben
April 21st, 2009, 11:34 am
April 9th 2009, My first grandson, The one thing I have always prayed for. grandchildren and great grandchildren.

:clap: :clap: :clap: Good answer, "Granddad". :clap: :clap: :clap:

...and congratulations. :D

countmein
April 21st, 2009, 11:42 am
Next to my Salvation, I would have to say............. everything. He gave me a spirit of survival. He helped me made it through a hellish childhood. He blessed me with the ability to overcome this negative ordeal and helped turn me into the positive, strong person I am today. He blessed me with the ability to look at any bad situation and see the good in it. He blessed me with a hubby that works hard so I can stay at home with our children. He blessed me with four children when the doctors told me it was unlikely that I would have any at all. The four children that He blessed me with are simply amazing. He has blessed me, in spite of my childhood, to be the parent that I am today. He blessed me with an aunt and uncle to rescue me in my childhood. They could not get me completely out of the hell, but they were able to show me the love that I lacked receiving at home and how a family should be, so I could pass THAT on to my children. He has blessed us with a nice home to raise our family in. I could go on and on, but I will leave at that for now.

Jacob_Rising
April 21st, 2009, 11:48 am
:clap: :clap: :clap: Good answer, "Granddad". :clap: :clap: :clap:

...and congratulations. :DWell I'm gonna love it like it's my grandchild. My very mean exwife's sisters told my daughter on her 18th birthday that I wasn't her father.

I wish there was a way to find out without my daughter finding out.

I would like to take one of those tests without my daughter's knowledge.

That is such a mean thing to do to a girl on her 18th birthday, Now it's like the pink elephant in the room.

Lie Sniper
April 21st, 2009, 1:15 pm
So far, He has given me life, family and a way to survive.

He has also given faith, logic, a sense of humor, sin and sarcasm.

I'm just not sure yet what to do with them.:think:

I am the Eggman
April 21st, 2009, 1:42 pm
he only does it if it brings himslf glory
God does all things to glorify himself.

And you are supposed to aspire to be more like god? All rightey, then.

agoodfoundation
April 21st, 2009, 1:48 pm
The greatest thing God has ever done for me was to save my wretched soul from Hell!

Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound, that saved a wretch like me!!

gpd®
April 21st, 2009, 8:56 pm
:clap: :clap: :clap: Good answer, "Granddad". :clap: :clap: :clap:

...and congratulations. :D

gpd???

hint:

grandpadave

Gem
April 21st, 2009, 9:06 pm
Most believers would probably say that God has blessed them beyone measure throughout their lifetimes. I'd like to ask you to stop and think for a moment, and then tell us what is the greatest thing God has ever done for you. I know dying for all of our sins was probably the greatest, so maybe I should have clarified and requested the second greatest thing He's ever done. ;)


There is not enough room on this thread to tell all the greatest things God has done for me because everything He has done for me is great. .
But the greatest of all is taking on all my sins and giving His all for me on the Old Rugged cross so I and all of my family could be saved.

bluebird
April 21st, 2009, 11:15 pm
other than sending Jesus, everything else is tied in "2nd place." One thing I've been grateful for lately are the tender mercies I've been given as a mother -- like that feeling you have when you watch your kids sleeping -- that feeling makes me forget about the rest of the day, and buoys my spirit for the challenges of the day to come.

RayMan
April 22nd, 2009, 2:18 am
actually there are many people who have disabilities who oppose operations that would restore sight, hearing, etc.. There are organized groups against such things. That there is nothing wrong with having a disability.

Yup. The UN seems to be aware of these things. Here's an excerpt from quite a long piece on a UN website. Notice the Member organizations and if you want to save time scroll down to the last point.
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http://www.un.org/esa/socdev/enable/rights/contrib-ida.htm

Member organizations:
Disabled Peoples' International, Inclusion International,
Rehabilitation International, World Blind Union,
World Federation of the Deaf, World Federation of the Deaf-Blind,
World Network of Users and Survivors of PsychiatryTowards a UN Disability Convention

Statement for 2nd Ad Hoc Committee Session, June 2003
I: Ensure that there will be a Disability Convention
Following extensive consultation with our members representing more than 600 million people in the world with a disability the IDA strongly recommends that the UN adopt a convention to protect the human rights of people with disabilities. In that respect IDA recommends that the Ad Hoc Committee establish a task force composed of experts in the field to develop a draft text for the convention. This draft shall recognize disability as a part of human diversity rather than as a medical problem. While IDA acknowledges the World Program of Action and the Standard Rules as important milestones in recognizing the right of disabled persons, we assert that a convention should be a comprehensive Human Rights Treaty, which goes beyond existing instruments in order to manifest the paradigm shift from disability as a social welfare/medical issue to disability as a human rights issue.
II: Fundamental Principles for the Drafting Process
The proposed UN Disability Convention shall build on existing human rights norms and interpret those in the context of disability. The convention shall recognize the obstacles faced by people with disabilities. Based on input from people with disabilities and their organisations a convention shall clearly rest on the fundamental human rights values of the International Bill of Human Rights: dignity and self-determination, equality and social justice. Rather than having a programmatic focus the convention shall provide people with disabilities judiciable human rights. The convention shall have a strong monitoring mechanism in order to give standing to disabled people.
III: Fundamental Rights
1) Civil and political rights;
Right to live
The lives of people with disabilities are threatened e.g. by denial of the necessities of life such as food and water, shelter, medical treatment (or conversely by the imposition of unwanted medical treatment) and eugenic threats.
Freedom from torture and inhuman and degrading treatment
Because disabled people are treated as objects they experience inhuman and degrading treatment in their everyday life, including sexual exploitation, physical violence and forced treatment. Disabled women are especially victimized.


(Here is the most pertinent bit)



Bodily and psychic integrity
Disabled people’s right to refuse treatment is often denied and they are frequently subjects of medical experimentation.

RayMan
April 22nd, 2009, 2:22 am
Bit of an arrogant, self-centred egotist then, isn't he?

That is darknessesedge's stock answer to pretty much all questions about God. I don't think you will find a lot of folk in the RF that will agree with him.

Gem
April 22nd, 2009, 3:48 pm
So far, He has given me life, family and a way to survive.

He has also given faith, logic, a sense of humor, sin and sarcasm.

I'm just not sure yet what to do with them.:think:


:think: humm :think: humm :angel:

Well you could bury the last to in concrete, sin and sarcasm.

gonavy
April 22nd, 2009, 4:05 pm
Kept me sober for 9 years, 3 months and 8 days. Oh yeah, and counting. And with his help and blessing I will stay this way until I am called home.