Duke: "Exotic Dancer" or "Stripper" or "Hooker"?... [Archive]

tha malcontent™

April 11th, 2006, 9:07 am

tislaw

April 11th, 2006, 9:14 am

All I know about the story is that they said on the local Chicago news last night that the DNA didn't match any of the Duke LaCrosse team.

tha malcontent™

April 11th, 2006, 9:19 am

All I know about the story is that they said on the local Chicago news last night that the DNA didn't match any of the Duke LaCrosse team.

I have heard that same thing.

My Issue on this Thread is the use of Politically Correct Terms such as "Exotic Dancer".

Met many of these People in my years, and Witnessed what they do, and "Exotic Dancing" is not it in most settings.

Hell, most "Gentlemen's Clubs" I have Witnessed from Colorado to Kentucky have more than "Exotic Dancing" going on inside, and what goes on @ Private Residences is as close to Prostitution as it can be, and in many cases, it is.

Seems to me that this Term does not tell the Whole Story, and Assists in Creating a Perception of Victim on the part of the "Dancer".

:)

peace...

CentralNYYank

April 11th, 2006, 9:19 am

well she's just a lying whore now isnt she...

tha malcontent™

April 11th, 2006, 9:22 am

well she's just a lying whore now isnt she...

Didn't say that, but it is Dishonest to Paint a Picture of Dry-Humping Naked Women in Private Residences as "Exotic Dancers"...

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peace...

tatervt

April 11th, 2006, 9:38 am

Hookers don't like to snuggle

Scheideck

April 11th, 2006, 9:41 am

I want to know why women can lie about rape without getting the same punishment that a raper would get.

snagswolf

April 11th, 2006, 9:47 am

Hookers don't like to snuggle
If you tell them you have a 50 hidden on you somewhere, and if they find it they can have it, you can close your eyes and pretend that's snuggling.

Er, or so I've heard.

tha malcontent™

April 11th, 2006, 9:48 am

If you tell them you have a 50 hidden on you somewhere, and if they find it they can have it, you can close your eyes and pretend that's snuggling.

Er, or so I've heard.

So I've hearrd also...

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peace...

markd

April 11th, 2006, 10:03 am

Didn't say that, but it is Dishonest to Paint a Picture of Dry-Humping Naked Women in Private Residences as "Exotic Dancers"...

:)

peace...
Right, I'm with you. Often it isn't "dry". I would say the EXCEPTION to these "exotic dances" are the ones that don't have sex with someone from the event. Meaning, more often than not someone is gonna nail the dancer. The men know it and the dancer knows it.

tha malcontent™

April 11th, 2006, 10:07 am

janine11

April 11th, 2006, 11:52 am

This Duke Scandal has the "Free Press" referring to a Whore that goes to Private Residences and Performs non-Penatrating Sex Acts in the Nude with a group of Men for Money as an "Exotic Dancer"...

Been to a Bachelor Party or two @ Private Residences over my 35 Years, and "Dancer" is the last thing that is in anyone's Head 15 minutes after the "Whore" Arrives.

Having said that, if she was Raped, she was Raped, and that would be a Crime.

But I have Witnessed Sex for Money from these "Dancers", so the "Free Press" could tell the Whole Story, and use Police Reports of Busts on these "Dancing Agencies" as Evidence for pointing out what many of them really are.

Any Thoughts?...

:)

peace...

Just b/c the strippers YOU have hired have offered other men sex for money does not make ALL strippers prostitutes. I've had male strippers in my apt and they were not prostitutes. If you want to go there, I would argue that married women are "whores" , especially the ones that don't work. They are getting money from their working husbands in return for sex, right? :rolleyes:

tatervt

April 11th, 2006, 11:59 am

Just b/c the strippers YOU have hired have offered other men sex for money does not make ALL strippers prostitutes. I've had male strippers in my apt and they were not prostitutes. If you want to go there, I would argue that married women are "whores" , especially the ones that don't work. They are getting money from their working husbands in return for sex, right? :rolleyes:
This is a joke right?? I mean the entire thing...

First, think how much harder it is for male strippers - they would have to convince the girls to have sex, and many girls are turned off by the whole "dude in a g-string" thing....Guys however, typically have a woody upon first boob exposure, and tend to do whatever it takes to get some from the stripper - the female strippers, are often willing (if the price is right of course)

Next, to call stay at home married women "whores" is just plain wrong...Everyone knows women STOP having sex once they're married...

cyph3r7

April 11th, 2006, 12:03 pm

Just b/c the strippers YOU have hired have offered other men sex for money does not make ALL strippers prostitutes. I've had male strippers in my apt and they were not prostitutes. If you want to go there, I would argue that married women are "whores" , especially the ones that don't work. They are getting money from their working husbands in return for sex, right? :rolleyes:

you are comparing male strippers to female which is apples to oranges. Women are different creatures than men. Period.

I have been to many bachelor parties and I would have to say that 90%+ of the time someone ended up having sex with the "stripper".

So these "strippers" do not walk the streets like most prostitutes we see on the news but all of them are selling some form of sex for money.

As to your second point, I would almost tend to agree that one way or another men pay for sex. :razz:

A buddy of mine has a saying, "if it floats, flies or ****s....rent it"

cyph3r7

April 11th, 2006, 12:04 pm

This is a joke right?? I mean the entire thing...

First, think how much harder it is for male strippers - they would have to convince the girls to have sex, and many girls are turned off by the whole "dude in a g-string" thing....Guys however, typically have a woody upon first boob exposure, and tend to do whatever it takes to get some from the stripper - the female strippers, are often willing (if the price is right of course)

:clap::clap::clap:

Next, to call stay at home married women "whores" is just plain wrong...Everyone knows women STOP having sex once they're married...

:)):)):))

priceless....wise beyond your years man

Paul31

April 11th, 2006, 12:05 pm

This Duke Scandal has the "Free Press" referring to a Whore that goes to Private Residences and Performs non-Penatrating Sex Acts in the Nude with a group of Men for Money as an "Exotic Dancer"...

Been to a Bachelor Party or two @ Private Residences over my 35 Years, and "Dancer" is the last thing that is in anyone's Head 15 minutes after the "Whore" Arrives.

Having said that, if she was Raped, she was Raped, and that would be a Crime.

But I have Witnessed Sex for Money from these "Dancers", so the "Free Press" could tell the Whole Story, and use Police Reports of Busts on these "Dancing Agencies" as Evidence for pointing out what many of them really are.

Any Thoughts?...

:)

peace...
I don't go to private parties that have strippers present. I much perfer to go to strip clubs. When at strip clubs, I don't go get private dances either. Don't want to be accused of attempted sexual assault.

cyph3r7

April 11th, 2006, 12:09 pm

I don't go to private parties that have strippers present.

I only go if there is a firm "no cameras" rule enforced

I much perfer to go to strip clubs. When at strip clubs, I don't go get private dances either. Don't want to be accused of attempted sexual assault.

I hate strip clubs. It's cheaper and easier to go to a regular bar and get what I need. A strip club is all window dressing and a giant vacuum that sucks all your money away.

I can drop $100 at a strip club and walk away unsatisfied or pay a $10 cover, $20 in beer and a $15 cab fare home the next day. Saves me $55 bucks and I get what I need. ;)

ALASKAROB

April 11th, 2006, 12:16 pm

If they didnt pay her after the sex it would be theft not rape?
She got beat up some too, thats assault?

uncledoom

April 11th, 2006, 12:40 pm

At the end of the day, no matter what is "assumed" or what "they are really here for" or whatever the pre-conceived notions are about strippers, no means no.

tatervt

April 11th, 2006, 12:51 pm

At the end of the day, no matter what is "assumed" or what "they are really here for" or whatever the pre-conceived notions are about strippers, no means no.
Yea well, innocent until proven guilty also means innocent until proven guilty - but that seems to have gotten lost in all this huh??

Now you have kids who lost an entire season that they'll never be able to get back, a coach is now gone, and this is still far from over...

I would just like to have seen how the school would've handled this situation had it been a revenue-generating sport, ala Duke Basketball....You really think they would've cancelled a season of Duke basketball based on allegations with little or no legs to stand on?? Gimme a break

tha malcontent™

April 11th, 2006, 12:55 pm

Just b/c the strippers YOU have hired have offered other men sex for money does not make ALL strippers prostitutes. I've had male strippers in my apt and they were not prostitutes. If you want to go there, I would argue that married women are "whores" , especially the ones that don't work. They are getting money from their working husbands in return for sex, right? :rolleyes:

Many Male "Dancers" are Homosexuals... That's why they did not want to have Sex with you.

They make plenty of Money from Horny Women, and don't need to have Sex with them to do it.

On the other hand, Female "Dancers" are Rarely Homosexual, many times they are Bisexual, or at least Available to Act like it.

"Hardbodies" here in Denver, and Established "Female Entertainment" Company, has Mutiple Stripper Combos, and these Strippers Perfrom Oral Sex on each other as a part of their Job.

I have seen it more than once, regardless of what Hardbodies Admits to.

Ever (2) Girl Combo I have seen has done it, and ever Bachelor Helped.

That is Sex, regardless of what the Former POTUS Claim while under Oath.

:)

peace...

tha malcontent™

April 11th, 2006, 12:55 pm

I don't go to private parties that have strippers present. I much perfer to go to strip clubs. When at strip clubs, I don't go get private dances either. Don't want to be accused of attempted sexual assault.

That's a Safe way to be.

:)

peace...

tha malcontent™

April 11th, 2006, 12:57 pm

If they didnt pay her after the sex it would be theft not rape?
She got beat up some too, thats assault?

She is Claiming she was Beaten by these Duke Students.

There are Claims to the Contrary.

Court will play that out.

Either way, this "Dancer" was at Frat House doing what "Dancers" in House do.

Why the "Free Press" can't Describe her for what she is, is a Product of PC TRIPE.

She Dry-Humps Men Naked for Money.

:)

peace...

tatervt

April 11th, 2006, 12:59 pm

I can drop $100 at a strip club and walk away unsatisfied or pay a $10 cover, $20 in beer and a $15 cab fare home the next day. Saves me $55 bucks and I get what I need. ;)
Now that is a great point...

And when money gets tight - head to a house party instead - no cover, $5 for a red solo cup, and $1 for bus fare the next morning....They are a gamble though, as many house parties turn into sausage-fests as soon as the keg arrives.

tha malcontent™

April 11th, 2006, 12:59 pm

Yea well, innocent until proven guilty also means innocent until proven guilty - but that seems to have gotten lost in all this huh??

:clap: :clap: :clap:

The "Men are Wrong" and "Women are Victims" Absolutists can't hear you...

And that 8 post Newbie is most likely not going to be here in a Month, so I would not Invest much more Energy on it, if I were you!

:)

peace...

tha malcontent™

April 11th, 2006, 1:01 pm

Now that is a great point...

And when money gets tight - head to a house party instead - no cover, $5 for a red solo cup, and $1 for bus fare the next morning....They are a gamble though, as many house parties turn into sausage-fests as soon as the keg arrives.

If you are Familiar with the Club, you can control your timing, you can get "what you need" in a Gentlemen's Club in a Private Dance with (1) $20 bill.

There are drawbacks to taking Girls to your Apartment, after all.

Thank God I haven't had those Concerns for many a year!

:)

peace...

uncledoom

April 11th, 2006, 1:06 pm

Yea well, innocent until proven guilty also means innocent until proven guilty - but that seems to have gotten lost in all this huh??

Now you have kids who lost an entire season that they'll never be able to get back, a coach is now gone, and this is still far from over...

I would just like to have seen how the school would've handled this situation had it been a revenue-generating sport, ala Duke Basketball....You really think they would've cancelled a season of Duke basketball based on allegations with little or no legs to stand on?? Gimme a break

Mike Golic said the exact same thing on the radio this morning. Sad...but true. However, here's my issue. If they are innocent and have nothing to fear, why refuse to talk? Why not just tell them everything so that this "non-sense" gets cleared up sooner than later...something to hide perhaps?

markd

April 11th, 2006, 1:08 pm

She is Claiming she was Beaten by these Duke Students.

There are Claims to the Contrary.

Court will play that out.

Either way, this "Dancer" was at Frat House doing what "Dancers" in House do.

Why the "Free Press" can't Describe her for what she is, is a Product of PC TRIPE.

She Dry-Humps Men Naked for Money.

:)

peace...
And if you stretch the definition of prostitution to mean providing sexual arousal for money (which isn't a huge stretch, by any means) then these women are whores/prostitutes.

tatervt

April 11th, 2006, 1:30 pm

Mike Golic said the exact same thing on the radio this morning. Sad...but true. However, here's my issue. If they are innocent and have nothing to fear, why refuse to talk? Why not just tell them everything so that this "non-sense" gets cleared up sooner than later...something to hide perhaps?
I'm sure they were advised to stay quiet. Anything they say could just be mis-quoted or used against them in court...I used to be a believer in "just tell the truth" and everything will be fine, but I don't think that works in situations such as these.

snagswolf

April 11th, 2006, 1:35 pm

If you want to go there, I would argue that married women are "whores" , especially the ones that don't work. They are getting money from their working husbands in return for sex, right? :rolleyes:
You certainly have a ****ed up idea of what marriage is. I feel sorry for your husband, past, present, or future.

tha malcontent™

April 11th, 2006, 2:29 pm

And if you stretch the definition of prostitution to mean providing sexual arousal for money (which isn't a huge stretch, by any means) then these women are whores/prostitutes.

The Physical Aspect of it, the Interaction between the "Dancer" and the "Customer", makes it Prostitution of "Arousal" Occurs...

If Orgasm Occurs, it can't be any other thing but Prostiution.

:)

peace...

tatervt

April 11th, 2006, 2:33 pm

And if you stretch the definition of prostitution to mean providing sexual arousal for money (which isn't a huge stretch, by any means) then these women are whores/prostitutes.
You and I know, they are good kids just trying to pay their way through college....

tha malcontent™

April 11th, 2006, 2:37 pm

You and I know, they are good kids just trying to pay their way through college....

Some are Good... Some aren't worth the $20.

:)

peace...

markd

April 11th, 2006, 2:54 pm

Some are Good... Some aren't worth the $20.

:)

peace...
truer words...

IronEagle

April 11th, 2006, 3:14 pm

It's pretty obvious what went on here. An obvious drunk or drugged up hooker shows up at the house(pictures show that she had bruises on her knees before she walked into the house,says the defense attorney). Most likely there was an argument over money and they tossed her out. She tries to get back in(again pictures prove that) and she decides to call 911 to get these guys in trouble. Protests by blacks and whites demand justice for the poor hooker, the coach quits, the team's season is over and nothing has been proven yet! Except until now, DNA shows none of the boys were on or in her. YET, Jesse Jackson, the DA and the rest of Durham can't let it go. Jackson said on Fox, SOMETHING WENT ON IN THERE. Yes, he's right and that something is probably nothing went on. These guys are high profile and should not have ordered for this woman and now they will pay for it but not for rape but with their reputations.

janine11

April 11th, 2006, 6:11 pm

[QUOTE=tatervt]Guys however, typically have a woody upon first boob exposure, and tend to do whatever it takes to get some from the stripper -
QUOTE]

Right. Including rape, right?

janine11

April 11th, 2006, 6:13 pm

tha malcontent™

April 11th, 2006, 6:33 pm

Right. Including rape, right?

You have Proof of Rape?

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peace...

chip

April 11th, 2006, 9:01 pm

You have Proof of Rape?

:)

peace...

Of cource not.

Stinger_1066

April 11th, 2006, 9:42 pm

I would argue that married women are "whores" , especially the ones that don't work. They are getting money from their working husbands in return for sex, right? :rolleyes:

You just stepped over the line there.

In my life I cannot recall having ever referred to any woman as a whore, whether she made her living taking money for sex or not.

My wife is a wonderful woman who has not worked outside the home, other than small part time jobs, in over 18 years of marriage and raising two now grown up kids. We have a tremendously satisfying sex life, and never once has there been any hint of her rewarding me for the support I have provided.

There are millions more women in America just like my wife. You have just insulted each and every one of them. You are a despicable person.

Fortunately, if the others are anything like my wife, they will consider the source and not be bothered by it.

tha malcontent™

April 12th, 2006, 12:46 am

Of cource not.

Of course not is Correct!...

:)

peace...

JFKLiberal

April 12th, 2006, 5:09 am

http://talkleft.com/new_archives/014436.html

This woman who won't get out of the car, was the woman who went back into the house. She is a college student, part-time stripper/dancer/escort and mother of two. She then alleges she was raped by three white males at the party. She provides first names. Here is the search warrant later executed at the house which names them. One is not on the team.

She goes to the hospital where the nurse conducting the rape exam finds evidence of sexual activity. The DA calls in all 46 white players for a DNA test. The players deny any sexual activity occurred.

http://wfmynews2.com/news/local_state/article.aspx?storyid=60198

The woman said the assault took place in the early hours of March 14 near Duke's East Campus. She had worked for an escort service to help support her two children and pay for classes at N.C. Central University and the night she was attacked was the first time she had been hired to dance for a group.

She was an escort and thus she was a whore. Escorts are whores.

tha malcontent™

April 12th, 2006, 9:16 am

So I found out last night that this Extra Bad because the Hooker was Black...

Race is Irrelevant, and Race Whores like Je$$e Jack$on make Prostitution seem Moral.

:)

peace..

tha malcontent™

April 18th, 2006, 12:48 pm

Bumpdigity to Assist in getting this Subject out of the Mod Forum...

:)

peace...

tatervt

April 18th, 2006, 12:55 pm

2, soon to be 3, college kids lives have now been ruined - why?? because a broke ass whore was looking for some attention and crack money, and a DA is looking to move up the public ladder.

Gross situation

tha malcontent™

April 18th, 2006, 1:00 pm

I have never met a Stripper who wasn't a Whore.

They are Inticing Men Sexually with their Flesh for Money.

By Definition they are Whores.

These Whores who go to Private Homes to things, Legally mind you, that can only be Considered Prostitution.

Dry-Humping is a tad more than "Exotic Dancing".

Whip Cream Licks...

Lollipops...

Drynks poured across the Stomach, then across the...

And then into the Mouth of one of the Many Men present.

Sorry, but In House Strippers are Whores, End of List.

And most of them are so Trampy, that they don't even Deny it.

"Porn Actors" are Whores also.

That is Legalized Prostitution without Question.

:)

peace...

secondclasscitizen

April 18th, 2006, 1:06 pm

Met many of these People in my years, and Witnessed what they do, and "Exotic Dancing" is not it in most settings.

Hmmm..."ex-" = out + "-otic" = of or relating to the eyes = eye-popping

Sounds plausible to me... :)

tha malcontent™

April 18th, 2006, 1:08 pm

Hmmm..."ex-" = out + "-otic" = of or relating to the eyes = eye-popping

Sounds plausible to me... :)

That Term is Dishonest in this Context.

In House Strippers are more than "Exotic Dancers"...

They are, in Fact, Whores.

The term "Dancer" or "Exotic Dancer" or "Entertainer" are "Free Press" and Leftist terms to soften the Perception of this Whore who may or may not have been Raped.

:)

peace...

signcut

April 18th, 2006, 1:15 pm

This Duke Scandal has the "Free Press" referring to a Whore that goes to Private Residences and Performs non-Penatrating Sex Acts in the Nude with a group of Men for Money as an "Exotic Dancer"...

Been to a Bachelor Party or two @ Private Residences over my 35 Years, and "Dancer" is the last thing that is in anyone's Head 15 minutes after the "Whore" Arrives.

Having said that, if she was Raped, she was Raped, and that would be a Crime.

But I have Witnessed Sex for Money from these "Dancers", so the "Free Press" could tell the Whole Story, and use Police Reports of Busts on these "Dancing Agencies" as Evidence for pointing out what many of them really are.

Any Thoughts?...

:)

peace...

A stripper is not automatically a whore, regardless of what you might think. If that were the case, there wouldn't be separate definitions for the two words. While it may be the case here, you have made the assertion that 'all' strippers' are whores, based on your experience, apparently...

While useful, it doesn't translate to across the board fact.

It may turn out that this particular stripper was indeed a prostitute, but isn't jumping the gun and assuming facts not in evidence something that you rail against?

signcut

April 18th, 2006, 1:16 pm

And if you stretch the definition of prostitution to mean providing sexual arousal for money (which isn't a huge stretch, by any means) then these women are whores/prostitutes.

Yes, and by stretching the definition of a lot of things, you could make them something else... I hope this is not a practice of which you approve?

signcut

April 18th, 2006, 1:20 pm

Right, I'm with you. Often it isn't "dry". I would say the EXCEPTION to these "exotic dances" are the ones that don't have sex with someone from the event. Meaning, more often than not someone is gonna nail the dancer. The men know it and the dancer knows it.

Well, hold on...

If there is an exception, then 'all' strippers aren't whores... although that is what you assert in a different thread...

I'm not stnading up for this woman, but I am against the automatic assumption of what she is, based on what she does, which can be separate.

signcut

April 18th, 2006, 1:21 pm

AugustGem

April 18th, 2006, 2:17 pm

What makes me laugh is all the men claiming strippers have sex with "someone" at private parties! Mind, not them but their friend or friends, friends who knows a gas station attendent who had a cousin who did. Typical boys and their stories. it is not common for strippers to have sex on the job. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen but when you look at the better strip clubs/ stripping companies, why would a woman making a few grand, yup grand, a night need to have sex for what? $50?

This chick could have been a cheap stripper/hooker. But to claim strippers on a whole are whores. That is beyond ignorant.

tha malcontent™

April 18th, 2006, 2:26 pm

A stripper is not automatically a whore, regardless of what you might think. If that were the case, there wouldn't be separate definitions for the two words. While it may be the case here, you have made the assertion that 'all' strippers' are whores, based on your experience, apparently...

While useful, it doesn't translate to across the board fact.

It may turn out that this particular stripper was indeed a prostitute, but isn't jumping the gun and assuming facts not in evidence something that you rail against?

Every "Stripper" falls under one of the (3) Definitions I provided for "Whore".

:)

peace...

uncledoom

April 18th, 2006, 2:40 pm

Strippers: Those who take their clothes off for money.
Exotic Dancers: See strippers.

Whores: Those who perform sexual favors in exchange for money.

2 different groups of people if you ask me.

tha malcontent™

April 18th, 2006, 2:42 pm

Strippers: Those who take their clothes off for money.
Exotic Dancers: See strippers.

Whores: Those who perform sexual favors in exchange for money.

2 different groups of people if you ask me.

I did not ask you...

Nor would I.

On the other hand, earlier I Consulted the Dictionary:

whore http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/JPG/pron.jpg (https://secure.reference.com/premium/login.html?rd=2&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdictionary.reference.com%2Fsearch%3 Fq%3Dwhore) ( P ) Pronunciation Key (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/ahd4/pronkey.html) (hôr, hhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/omacr.gifr)
n.

A prostitute.
A person considered sexually promiscuous.
A person considered as having compromised principles for personal gain.---

The Above "Whore" in the Duke Scandal was an In House Stripper.

She Sold her Body Sexually.

The Word is Extemely Accurate.

And Whores can be Raped, and when they are, it's a Crime.

Whether or not she was will be Decided by a Court, and then probably by another in Appeals.

:)

peace...

---

She's a Whore... All Strippers are.

:)

peace...

uncledoom

April 18th, 2006, 2:49 pm

I did not ask you...

Nor would I.

On the other hand, earlier I Consulted the Dictionary:

---

She's a Whore... All Strippers are.

:)

peace...

I wasn't specifically talking to you....but whatever.

Just because a person takes their clothes off for a person for money doesn't mean they would sleep with that person for money.

tha malcontent™

April 18th, 2006, 2:53 pm

I wasn't specifically talking to you....but whatever.

Just because a person takes their clothes off for a person for money doesn't mean they would sleep with that person for money.

Now you are talking about Prostitutes, which some, but not all Strippers are.

:)

peace...

signcut

April 18th, 2006, 2:55 pm

Every "Stripper" falls under one of the (3) Definitions I provided for "Whore".

:)

peace...

Just so that others may be clear on this, this is the definition you provided, and the three examples contained within:

whore ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hôr, hr)
n.
A prostitute.
A person considered sexually promiscuous.
A person considered as having compromised principles for personal gain.

Now, I find it puzzling indeed that you can actually say that you know about "all strippers", when in fact, you can only speak of some. What you are doing so blindly is making assumptions based on your past experience. Now, this may work for those that you knew, or know, but not for everyone. You act as though you know it all, my friend, when you don't, and cannot.

I have known some strippers that didn't fall into any of the above categories; hell, I dated some. I am not foolish enough to believe that even a majority of a population or sub-culture speaks for all, but it appears that you don't see things that way; what you believe is, regardless of fact.

While some or many strippers are prostitutes is undeniable, as is that some or many are sexually promiscuous. If they don't fall into one of those two categories, then apparently you see them as falling into the third, which again, is an assumption, of which you seem to be making many. Your presumption of whether they compromised their morals is also based on your assumption of what those morals were to begin with. The same as yours, since that is the standard, apparently.

Mal, you can throw around the word as much as you like, but to automatically assume that people fall into neat little categories is often seen as a sign of a small or closed mind. That the word is so derogatory, and used so quickly... to be honest, I see it as hypocritical, as I doubt that you would sit still if someone made an instant judgement about you.

tha malcontent™

April 18th, 2006, 2:56 pm

Just so that others may be clear on this, this is the definition you provided, and the three examples contained within:

Now, I find it puzzling indeed that you can actually say that you know about "all strippers", when in fact, you can only speak of some. What you are doing so blindly is making assumptions based on your past experience. Now, this may work for those that you knew, or know, but not for everyone. You act as though you know it all, my friend, when you don't, and cannot.

I have known some strippers that didn't fall into any of the above categories; hell, I dated some. I am not foolish enough to believe that even a majority of a population or sub-culture speaks for all, but it appears that you don't see things that way; what you believe is, regardless of fact.

While some or many strippers are prostitutes is undeniable, as is that some or many are sexually promiscuous. If they don't fall into one of those two categories, then apparently you see them as falling into the third, which again, is an assumption, of which you seem to be making many. Your presumption of whether they compromised their morals is also based on your assumption of what those morals were to begin with. The same as yours, since that is the standard, apparently.

Mal, you can throw around the word as much as you like, but to automatically assume that people fall into neat little categories is often seen as a sign of a small or closed mind. That the word is so derogatory, and used so quickly... to be honest, I see it as hypocritical, as I doubt that you would sit still if someone made an instant judgement about you.

So, why is that you feel Compelled to Defend Strippers?...

:)

peace...

signcut

April 18th, 2006, 2:57 pm

Now you are talking about Prostitutes, which some, but not all Strippers are.

:)

peace...

So, what is the difference between a whore and a prostitute?

You have said that all strippers fall under the definition of whore, but that not all are prostitutes...

tha malcontent™

April 18th, 2006, 2:59 pm

So, what is the difference between a whore and a prostitute?

You have said that all strippers fall under the definition of whore, but that not all are prostitutes...

Sorry, I must Correct myself...

Considering this Defintion:

pros·ti·tute http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/JPG/pron.jpg (https://secure.reference.com/premium/login.html?rd=2&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdictionary.reference.com%2Fsearch%3 Fq%3DProstitute) ( P ) Pronunciation Key (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/ahd4/pronkey.html) (prhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/obreve.gifshttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/prime.gifthttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/ibreve.gif-thttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/oomacr.gifthttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/lprime.gif, -tyhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/oomacr.gifthttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/lprime.gif)
n.
One who solicits and accepts payment for sex acts.
One who sells one's abilities, talent, or name for an unworthy purpose.

They are all Arguably Prostitutes too...

Obviously not by the Legal Definition, of course.

:)

peace...

signcut

April 18th, 2006, 3:01 pm

So, why is that you feel Compelled to Defend Strippers?...

:)

peace...

I am not defending strippers, I am arguing against assumptions being made. The assumption in question is that all strippers are whores or prostitutes, which is not the case.

I don't accept broad brushes being used against anybody... especially such derogatory ones.

tha malcontent™

April 18th, 2006, 3:03 pm

I am not defending strippers, I am arguing against assumptions being made. The assumption in question is that all strippers are whores or prostitutes, which is not the case.

I don't accept broad brushes being used against anybody... especially such derogatory ones.

It's one of the Few Cases where it Fits...

Honestly.

I don't Think all Homosexual Men are Promiscuous, nor would I say so, but all Strippers are Whores by Defintion.

:)

peace...

signcut

April 18th, 2006, 3:08 pm

Sorry, I must Correct myself...

Considering this Defintion:

pros·ti·tute http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/JPG/pron.jpg (https://secure.reference.com/premium/login.html?rd=2&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdictionary.reference.com%2Fsearch%3 Fq%3DProstitute) ( P ) Pronunciation Key (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/ahd4/pronkey.html) (prhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/obreve.gifshttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/prime.gifthttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/ibreve.gif-thttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/oomacr.gifthttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/lprime.gif, -tyhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/oomacr.gifthttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/lprime.gif)
n.
One who solicits and accepts payment for sex acts.
One who sells one's abilities, talent, or name for an unworthy purpose.

They are all Arguably Prostitutes too...

Obviously not by the Legal Definition, of course.

:)

peace...

How so? While some may easily fall under the first definition, the second would require said "unworthy purpose" to be defined as such. A fuzzy definition, at best. Such could be used against anyone; a liberal could truthfully call any conservative a prostitute, as they use their talents or name for what they deem "an unworthy purpose", or vice versa...

Would you accept being called such, "by definition"?

Yankee in NC

April 18th, 2006, 3:09 pm

I think people need to keep themselves out of situations that could turn out very badly for themselves.

markd

April 18th, 2006, 3:21 pm

Well, hold on...

If there is an exception, then 'all' strippers aren't whores... although that is what you assert in a different thread...

I'm not stnading up for this woman, but I am against the automatic assumption of what she is, based on what she does, which can be separate.
All strippers are whores. Period. They provide sexual arousal for cash. Not all strippers are prostitutes.
If I wasn't clear in another post, I apologize.All prostitutes are whores but not all whores are prostitutes.

uncledoom

April 18th, 2006, 3:27 pm

Sorry, I must Correct myself...

Considering this Defintion:

pros·ti·tute http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/JPG/pron.jpg (https://secure.reference.com/premium/login.html?rd=2&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdictionary.reference.com%2Fsearch%3 Fq%3DProstitute) ( P ) Pronunciation Key (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/ahd4/pronkey.html) (prhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/obreve.gifshttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/prime.gifthttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/ibreve.gif-thttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/oomacr.gifthttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/lprime.gif, -tyhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/oomacr.gifthttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/lprime.gif)
n.
One who solicits and accepts payment for sex acts.
One who sells one's abilities, talent, or name for an unworthy purpose.

They are all Arguably Prostitutes too...

Obviously not by the Legal Definition, of course.

:)

peace...

In that case, the word "prostitute" can be used across the board depending on how "unworthy purpose" is defined. The lawyer who will defend the Duke players. Technically, he could be a protitute because someone may think defending a rape suspect is unworthy.

markd

April 18th, 2006, 3:28 pm

I think people need to keep themselves out of situations that could turn out very badly for themselves.
If I were female and in "the business" I would NEVER make housecalls, NEVER. I've been in the houses and they ain't purty.

signcut

April 18th, 2006, 3:30 pm

All strippers are whores. Period. They provide sexual arousal for cash. Not all strippers are prostitutes.
If I wasn't clear in another post, I apologize.All prostitutes are whores but not all whores are prostitutes.

Well, I must not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, because I don't quite get this one.

A = B, but B does not = A...

I get that strippers provide a show for cash, but I don't equate that to being a whore. Even if the term "sexual arousal" is included, then any actor, for instance, that has done a scene in any way arousing is a whore. And what does that make the underwear models for Victoria's Secret? :cool:

markd

April 18th, 2006, 3:30 pm

Yankee in NC

April 18th, 2006, 3:31 pm

If I were female and in "the business" I would NEVER make housecalls, NEVER. I've been in the houses and they ain't purty.

True. But I wasn't only referring to her in this case.

uncledoom

April 18th, 2006, 3:31 pm

All strippers are whores. Period. They provide sexual arousal for cash. Not all strippers are prostitutes.
If I wasn't clear in another post, I apologize.All prostitutes are whores but not all whores are prostitutes.

Similarly, all squares are quadrilaterals, all rectangles are quadrilaterals, but not all quadrilaterals are squares or rectangles.

markd

April 18th, 2006, 3:35 pm

Well, I must not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, because I don't quite get this one.

A = B, but B does not = A...
Not all whores have sexual intercourse or perform sex acts.

I get that strippers provide a show for cash, but I don't equate that to being a whore. Even if the term "sexual arousal" is included, then any actor, for instance, that has done a scene in any way arousing is a whore. And what does that make the underwear models for Victoria's Secret? :cool:
The models are there to show off the new underwear line. If you get off, so be it, it's secondary or tertiary. Strippers are there solely to get you aroused so you give them your money.

markd

April 18th, 2006, 3:37 pm

True. But I wasn't only referring to her in this case.
Gotcha, those boys are equally stupid, and now they are paying for it with (at the least) their reputations. Knowing what I know now, my attendance in some house parties would have been drastically cut short.

markd

April 18th, 2006, 3:39 pm

Similarly, all squares are quadrilaterals, all rectangles are quadrilaterals, but not all quadrilaterals are squares or rectangles.
Precisely. (I think.) I've got a couple poli sci degrees, geometry/math aren't our strong suits.:cool:

uncledoom

April 18th, 2006, 3:40 pm

Defending one who is accused of a crime is a worthy purpose.

But that depends on what's "worthy". Defending a college athlete accused of rape by a stipper = worthy. Defending a college athlete accused of raping a 9 year old girl may not be worthy. Defending a known drug dealer accused of murder may not be worthy.

uncledoom

April 18th, 2006, 3:41 pm

Precisely. (I think.) I've got a couple poli sci degrees, geometry/math aren't our strong suits.:cool:

LOL...I had to do a quick search before I posted to make sure I was right.

Yankee in NC

April 18th, 2006, 3:42 pm

Gotcha, those boys are equally stupid, and now they are paying for it with (at the least) their reputations. Knowing what I know now, my attendance in some house parties would have been drastically cut short.

I hear you on that one.

signcut

April 18th, 2006, 3:42 pm

Not all whores have sexual intercourse or perform sex acts.

The models are there to show off the new underwear line. If you get off, so be it, it's secondary or tertiary. Strippers are there solely to get you aroused so you give them your money.

I was trying to be humorous on that one... :neutral:

I know what strippers are there to do. My argument is simply that is does not automatically make them whores, or prostitutes. Many are, and there is certainly no shortage of them, but I don't see where the others fit the definition.

Again, let me state that I am not defending strippers. I have enjoyed looking in my greener days, but I just find the term 'whore' to not be a word that encompasses the job, and to be honest, I find it a bit disconcerting that it was thrown about so quickly.

Yankee in NC

April 18th, 2006, 3:42 pm

Wait. So quadrilaterals are used to arouse men?

george kaplan

April 18th, 2006, 3:44 pm

Not all whores have sexual intercourse or perform sex acts.

:cool: Somebody got ripped off....

markd

April 18th, 2006, 4:01 pm

I was trying to be humorous on that one... :neutral:

I know what strippers are there to do. My argument is simply that is does not automatically make them whores, or prostitutes. Many are, and there is certainly no shortage of them, but I don't see where the others fit the definition.

Again, let me state that I am not defending strippers. I have enjoyed looking in my greener days, but I just find the term 'whore' to not be a word that encompasses the job, and to be honest, I find it a bit disconcerting that it was thrown about so quickly.
Sorry, I missed the humor.:wall:
I know you're not defending the strippers. The catch might be that the term whore has developed a negative connotation (deservedly so) but still holds the same definition, which, ultimately still fits. Words have meanings for a reason, and, not to put words in mal's mouth, but I think that is both our points, the definition is appropriate.

markd

April 18th, 2006, 4:02 pm

Wait. So quadrilaterals are used to arouse men?
No, just rectangles. You need to pay attention.:razz:

Dreamy

April 18th, 2006, 4:05 pm

You just stepped over the line there.

In my life I cannot recall having ever referred to any woman as a whore, whether she made her living taking money for sex or not.

My wife is a wonderful woman who has not worked outside the home, other than small part time jobs, in over 18 years of marriage and raising two now grown up kids. We have a tremendously satisfying sex life, and never once has there been any hint of her rewarding me for the support I have provided.

There are millions more women in America just like my wife. You have just insulted each and every one of them. You are a despicable person.

Fortunately, if the others are anything like my wife, they will consider the source and not be bothered by it.

:clap: Thank you from a married woman. That poster is beyond the pale more often than not. I wonder if she is even married. I hope not.

markd

April 18th, 2006, 4:06 pm

But that depends on what's "worthy". Defending a college athlete accused of rape by a stipper = worthy. Defending a college athlete accused of raping a 9 year old girl may not be worthy. Defending a known drug dealer accused of murder may not be worthy.
The defense is worthy because of the idea that we are innocent until proven guilty. The person's past doesn't apply because defending them of the current act of which they are accused is the only relevant concern at the time. When the trial is over and the evidence is overwhelming, then you (the person doing the defending) can decide whether or not it was a worthy fight.

Yankee in NC

April 18th, 2006, 4:11 pm

No, just rectangles. You need to pay attention.:razz:

Rectangles are the sexiest of all the shapes. Makes much more sense. :))

tha malcontent™

April 18th, 2006, 4:23 pm

In that case, the word "prostitute" can be used across the board depending on how "unworthy purpose" is defined. The lawyer who will defend the Duke players. Technically, he could be a protitute because someone may think defending a rape suspect is unworthy.

Strippers are Whores and Prostitutes for a number of reason...

Sex and or Sexuality for Money is one of them.

Dry-Humping a Man until Orgasim, by the Definition given by the Court to Clinton, IS Sex.

So is licking Whip Cream off of a Sexual Organ, or taking a Drynk off of one.

:)

peace...

signcut

April 18th, 2006, 4:23 pm

Rectangles are the sexiest of all the shapes. Makes much more sense. :))

WHAT??!!

I have never in my life seen a 'rectangle' on a woman's chest, or the back of their pants... I'm a circle man... :cool:

Yankee in NC

April 18th, 2006, 4:25 pm

WHAT??!!

I have never in my life seen a 'rectangle' on a woman's chest, or the back of their pants... I'm a circle man... :cool:

Back pockets, man.... Back pockets

signcut

April 18th, 2006, 4:29 pm

The defense is worthy because of the idea that we are innocent until proven guilty. The person's past doesn't apply because defending them of the current act of which they are accused is the only relevant concern at the time. When the trial is over and the evidence is overwhelming, then you (the person doing the defending) can decide whether or not it was a worthy fight.

Although it still does leave the defining to an outside source. As I remarked earlier, then everybody could be called a whore by another whose definition of "an unworthy cause" was different, such as between liberals and conservatives, for instance.

Pro-choice v. pro-life, labor v. management, black v. white, men v. women, etc... I see that portion of the definition to be so ambiguously vague as to be near useless.

Anyhoo...

tha malcontent™

April 18th, 2006, 4:31 pm

Although it still does leave the defining to an outside source. As I remarked earlier, then everybody could be called a whore by another whose definition of "an unworthy cause" was different, such as between liberals and conservatives, for instance.

Pro-choice v. pro-life, labor v. management, black v. white, men v. women, etc... I see that portion of the definition to be so ambiguously vague as to be near useless.

Anyhoo...

Strippers are Whores and Prostitutes for a number of reason...

Sex and or Sexuality for Money is one of them.

Dry-Humping a Man until Orgasim, by the Definition given by the Court to Clinton, IS Sex.

So is licking Whip Cream off of a Sexual Organ, or taking a Drynk off of one.

:)

peace...

With Strippers, we are talking about Selling Sex...

:)

peace...

signcut

April 18th, 2006, 4:37 pm

With Strippers, we are talking about Selling Sex...

:)

peace...

No, YOU are talking about strippers selling sex. I know of instances where that wasn't true, but far be it for me to tell you something that couldn't possibly be true, as you have experience in the matter... :rolleyes:

markd

April 18th, 2006, 4:41 pm

No, YOU are talking about strippers selling sex. I know of instances where that wasn't true, but far be it for me to tell you something that couldn't possibly be true, as you have experience in the matter... :rolleyes:
That is the only goal of a stripper, the better she sells sex, the more cash she takes home. No cooking demonstrations, no surprise redecorating, no stenography. Just simple sex selling.

uncledoom

April 18th, 2006, 4:46 pm

That is the only goal of a stripper, the better she sells sex, the more cash she takes home. No cooking demonstrations, no surprise redecorating, no stenography. Just simple sex selling.

It's more like sexual enticement. There is a difference between waving some boobies in your face and getting a hummer. But even from that, different people have different levels of sexual gratification....

tha malcontent™

April 18th, 2006, 5:07 pm

No, YOU are talking about strippers selling sex. I know of instances where that wasn't true, but far be it for me to tell you something that couldn't possibly be true, as you have experience in the matter... :rolleyes:

Experience in Observations...

And Penetration is not Required for "Sex"...

Check the list the Court gave Clinton about what "Sex" is.

Strippers are Whooooooooooooooores!

:)

peace...

croupier101

April 18th, 2006, 5:11 pm

Strippers are Whooooooooooooooores!

What are the people that hire them called?

Striker8440

April 18th, 2006, 5:13 pm

What are the people that hire them called?

desperate

croupier101

April 18th, 2006, 5:17 pm

desperate

Are they as morally corrupt and repugnant as....Whooooooooooooooores!

signcut

April 18th, 2006, 5:37 pm

Experience in Observations...

And Penetration is not Required for "Sex"...

Check the list the Court gave Clinton about what "Sex" is.

Strippers are Whooooooooooooooores!

:)

peace...

I see... so you support Clinton's definition of sex, do you? Apparently as well as his question about what the meaning of 'is' is... :rolleyes:

No, I think you use them not because you believe them, but because they are there, and could possibly support your claim. Dang, Mal, with such cynical manipulation, you could be a Democratic politician... :cool:

tha malcontent™

April 18th, 2006, 7:15 pm

What are the people that hire them called?

Pimps?...

The Johns, or the Employer?...

:)

peace...

tha malcontent™

April 18th, 2006, 7:17 pm

I see... so you support Clinton's definition of sex, do you?

No, the Court's Definition...

The same Court that found him "In Contempt of Court" for "Willfully Lying Under Oath" about said Sex.

:)

peace...

tha malcontent™

April 19th, 2006, 9:46 am

Musta been the Thread Killa...

:)

peace...

tha malcontent™

August 5th, 2006, 6:04 am

Anyone Convicted on this one yet?...

:)

peace...

tha malcontent™

April 11th, 2007, 9:04 am

Hooker... And the Charges were Dropped.

Fin.

:)

peace...

tha malcontent™

December 1st, 2007, 11:21 am

dittoheadAZ

December 1st, 2007, 11:41 am

Correct. And we STILL are awaiting the apologies from Jesse Sharpton and Al Jackson. (Or is it the other way around? It's hard to tell them apart - they're joined at the lip.)

tha malcontent™

December 1st, 2007, 11:42 am

Correct. And we STILL are awaiting the apologies from Jesse Sharpton and Al Jackson. (Or is it the other way around? It's hard to tell them apart - they're joined at the lip.)

Even though the Whities weren't Found Guilty, they are Guilty of being White...

Get it?...

:)

peace...

waynevan

December 1st, 2007, 2:37 pm

Correct. And we STILL are awaiting the apologies from Jesse Sharpton and Al Jackson. (Or is it the other way around? It's hard to tell them apart - they're joined at the lip.)

At least the prosecutor is getting nailed to the wall, thats what really counts.

tha malcontent™

December 1st, 2007, 2:42 pm

At least the prosecutor is getting nailed to the wall, thats what really counts.

And it's Funny, there isn't the same Coverage of that Prosecutoral Misconduct...

If the Prosecutor had Wrongly Accused Blacks?...

That'd be a Different Story with the Guilty White Liberals in the "Free Press"! ;)

:)

peace...

waynevan

December 1st, 2007, 2:46 pm

And it's Funny, there isn't the same Coverage of that Prosecutoral Misconduct...

If the Prosecutor had Wrongly Accused Blacks?...

That'd be a Different Story with the Guilty White Liberals in the "Free Press"! ;)

:)

peace...

Unfortunately, I think you are correct. On the flip side, a black girl disappeared from a college campus a few weeks ago or so and I haven't heard a peep about it in the news.

Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese

December 1st, 2007, 2:47 pm

Bachelor party strippers are working girls, ninety percent. Some of the more reputable agencies don't allow it, but that's it. I mean, alot of strippers who work in clubs, even the nice ones, hook on the side. Hell, if you're buddies with the owner of the place, you'll probably get hooked up gratis.

Not in every case, but the majority.

conservativeblkfemale

December 1st, 2007, 3:31 pm

Pimps?...

The Johns, or the Employer?...

:)

peace...

Actually I have a better name for them.....

MEN--you nasty things you...They wouldn't be able to sell it if you weren't buying it...

tha malcontent™

December 1st, 2007, 3:32 pm

Unfortunately, I think you are correct. On the flip side, a black girl disappeared from a college campus a few weeks ago or so and I haven't heard a peep about it in the news.

Yeah, I Know about that one too...

They also Tend to be Blonde when the "Free Press" is Fixated...

:)

peace...

tha malcontent™

December 1st, 2007, 3:34 pm

Actually I have a better name for them.....

MEN--you nasty things you...They wouldn't be able to sell it if you weren't buying it...

I've never ****ed a Stripper, and I never will...

Had Plenty of them want the $$$ to do just that, but I'd rather not get the Diseases, ya Know what I mean! ;)

And in Recent Years, I've been a Married Man, so ****in' Strippers isn't even on the Agenda! :))

How are you doin' CBF?...

:)

peace...

conservativeblkfemale

December 1st, 2007, 3:35 pm

I've never ****ed a Stripper, and I never will...

Had Plenty of them want the $$$ to do just that, but I'd rather not get the Diseases, ya Know what I mean! ;)

And in Recent Years, I've been a Married Man, so ****in' Strippers isn't even on the Agenda! :))

How are you doin' CBF?...

:)

peace...

I am fine thanks doll--how are you?

You have never been to a strip club? I call *cough* BS *cough*

Old_Mil

December 1st, 2007, 3:36 pm

This Duke Scandal has the "Free Press" referring to a Whore that goes to Private Residences and Performs non-Penatrating Sex Acts in the Nude with a group of Men for Money as an "Exotic Dancer"...

Been to a Bachelor Party or two @ Private Residences over my 35 Years, and "Dancer" is the last thing that is in anyone's Head 15 minutes after the "Whore" Arrives.

Having said that, if she was Raped, she was Raped, and that would be a Crime.

But I have Witnessed Sex for Money from these "Dancers", so the "Free Press" could tell the Whole Story, and use Police Reports of Busts on these "Dancing Agencies" as Evidence for pointing out what many of them really are.

Any Thoughts?...

:)

peace...

The reporting by the MSM was designed to frame the issue as the DA (and the race merchants) wanted it framed. It seemed more respectable to call the nappy headed crack whore in question an "exotic dancer", so truth be damned - it was done.

tha malcontent™

December 1st, 2007, 3:38 pm

I am fine thanks doll--how are you?

You have never been to a strip club? I call *cough* BS *cough*

No... I said I've Never ****ed a Stripper...

Of course I've been to a Strip Club! ;)

The Penthouse Club in D-Town is the Best.

It's been over a year though...

Went with the Brother-in-Law last time.

And I am Good, Lady...

Wife is Good... Preggers... And the lil one is a Blessing.

:)

peace...

conservativeblkfemale

December 1st, 2007, 3:39 pm

No... I said I've Never ****ed a Stripper...

Of course I've been to a Strip Club! ;)

The Penthouse Club in D-Town is the Best.

It's been over a year though...

Went with the Brother-in-Law last time.

:)

peace...

And darlin...You had to pay her..Or them...Hiring a stripper is not much different..

tha malcontent™

December 1st, 2007, 4:17 pm

And darlin...You had to pay her..Or them...Hiring a stripper is not much different..

There has only been one Time that I did not Give a Stripper Money...

Having said that, I still have NEVER ****ed a Stripper! ;)

:)

peace...

joedog

December 1st, 2007, 5:35 pm

And darlin...You had to pay her..Or them...Hiring a stripper is not much different..

And people pay to watch J-Lo, Antonio Banderas, Denzel Washington, and Halle Barry in movies, at least in part because they get turned on by watching their bodies. Is that the same as buying sex?
What about shelling out for a nice dinner and a show, in the hopes that the date will end up in an intimate encounter?
Or, in extreme cases, marrying someone (buying them an expensive piece of jewelry that marks them as your property, and off limits to others) so that you (and only you) can have sex with them. How is that different, other than that the transaction is less straightforward?

tha malcontent™

December 1st, 2007, 5:45 pm

flores_in_texas

December 1st, 2007, 5:46 pm

And people pay to watch J-Lo, Antonio Banderas, Denzel Washington, and Halle Barry in movies, at least in part because they get turned on by watching their bodies. Is that the same as buying sex?
What about shelling out for a nice dinner and a show, in the hopes that the date will end up in an intimate encounter?
Or, in extreme cases, marrying someone (buying them an expensive piece of jewelry that marks them as your property, and off limits to others) so that you (and only you) can have sex with them. How is that different, other than that the transaction is less straightforward?

Hmmm....

One of my teen daughter's friends was given a $30 necklace that said I love you. That was sweet and the boyfriend "got some". If he would have given her three $10 bills for sex he probably would have gotten slapped. Use that money to buy a cheap mall necklace, and now it's a sign of affection deserving gratitude.

It's all in the packaging I say.