Do you own a High Definition Media Device?

[Jíbaro]

Do you own a High Definition Media Device?

[ChrisSpencer]

Do you own a High Definition Media Device?

50 inch plasma samsung, bought at the peak of the sub-prime lending season. I am a college student with 0 income and 3 additional credit cards received within the last 12 months, walked into BestBuy, applied for their finance card, asked how much they'd approve.... somehow I was approved for the best card they offered. :rolleyes:

I'm sure if I went in there now they'd laugh at me.... but who is laughing now? I have their TV and they're just receiving no interest minimum payments for 2 more years. :cool:

[PeterGriffin]

Nothin' but the finest at Chateau Le Griffin:

http://www.temple.edu/instituteondisabilities/atlend/news/apr99/media/107095.jpg

[MrShotShot]

I have a 42 inch ENHANCED Definition TV that I found when I was fishing in 2006 - seriously, it was sitting there covered by a tarp.

Anyway, it's been fine so far, but the wife and I plan to upgrad to High Def sometime this year. As for HDDVD vs BlueRay, I'd like to see the market settle out before committing to a format. Beta/VHS anyone?

[J10]

Sony 23" LCD in the bedroom and Sony 34" CRT (tube) in the main room both widescreen Hi-Def.

The older style tube TV has a way better picture.

My house is tiny. Could just about fit a 42" in the main room. Plasma is the closest I've seen to tube in terms of picture quality and I like the Panasonics and the Pioneers.

I'm going to wait till the format wars subside before deciding which HD disc device to choose.

I went high-end upscaling on my DVD player. The picture's great but it's practically worthless now so I might as well hang on till it dies (no sign yet).

Word is discs will disappear totally anyway to be replaced by downloads but I've never had much success with streaming video so who knows?

[Joenumbertwo]

50 inch plasma samsung, bought at the peak of the sub-prime lending season. I am a college student with 0 income and 3 additional credit cards received within the last 12 months, walked into BestBuy, applied for their finance card, asked how much they'd approve.... somehow I was approved for the best card they offered. :rolleyes:

I'm sure if I went in there now they'd laugh at me.... but who is laughing now? I have their TV and they're just receiving no interest minimum payments for 2 more years. :cool:

How much are your payments?

[PeterGriffin]

Find out which format the porn industry is supporting. That will be your winner.

[peter45]

We have a HDTV but have no idea if what we see is high definition.

Too many cables, and too lazy to read the manual.

Probably just mostly lazy.

[Jeemie]

42" LCD Sony Wega (predecessor to Bravia)- bought it because it was the only TV I saw that didn't make normal resolution shows look like crap when it upconverted them.

And since normal resolution is still what a lot of shows are in....

I do not have a HD-DVD or BluRay yet- I have an upconverting DVD player but have not yet bought the HDMI cable necessary to make it work. Normal resolution looks just great with it, anyway.

Toshiba and, I think LG, make a DVD player that plays all formats- regular, HD-DVD, and BluRay. So, if you have $$$ to spend and don't want to wait for the market to play this out...

[ChrisSpencer]

How much are your payments?

Minimum is around $43 per month but I pay $50-60 so that when my 2 years of interest deferment come around I don't have that much time to accrue interest.

[ChrisSpencer]

Find out which format the porn industry is supporting. That will be your winner.
+1

[MrShotShot]

Minimum is around $43 per month but I pay $50-60 so that when my 2 years of interest deferment come around I don't have that much time to accrue interest.

Just make damned sure you read the "fine print" of your agreement - many interest deferement programs zap you for interest over the total period of your loan if you have a balance remaining following the grace period.

In other words, you'll get hit for the full two years worth of interest even if you only have $10 left to pay.

[ChrisSpencer]

Just make damned sure you read the "fine print" of your agreement - many interest deferement programs zap you for interest over the total period of your loan if you have a balance remaining following the grace period.

In other words, you'll get hit for the full two years worth of interest even if you only have $10 left to pay.

Already have that under consideration: if I do have any remaining balance I'll just switch it over before the grace period ends to another low interest credit card I have with a large credit that I leave generally unused.

[bioya1]

Let's see:

PS3

XBox with HD-DVD drive

both tehtered to

Sony 60" SXRD XBR (great HD cable feed and son claims it does excellent job with XBox & PS3)

Sony Blu Ray player tethered to

Pioneer Elite 50" Plasma (simply phenomenal picture no matter source)

Pioneer Elite 42" Plasma (technically, an older tv which is near HDTV and was replaced about 6 weeks ago by the 50") and no is the main monitor for my PC in my office and still displays cable feed just fine (no HD box though)

Dell XPS M2010 (wife's mutant 20" laptop with Blu Ray drive) set up in our sitting room which can be tethered to:

Older 40" Sony XBR tube tv in master BR (not HD but ED and still a sweet picture)

Technically, I think the two 24 LCD inch monitors (one my son's and one mine) are HD compatible and I am sure that both my son's and my PCs have HD capable video cards. Not as sure about the media center PC he built and attached to the 60" Sony last fall

The Yamaha Receivers in the basement and family room both have HDMI hookups and should be considered HD in some sense

We also have some sort of Sharp LCD at our place in San Diego which I am pretty sure is HD as is the Denon Receiver and Up Converting DVD player attached to it

We like electronics :drool: in my house

[PeterGriffin]

This is me grabbing my crotch and making obscene gestures at bioya1 right now.

I can't be mad at ya though. Smoke 'em if ya got 'em. But, damn. You should ease off the electronics and finance a ****ing revolution or something.

[bioya1]

This is me grabbing my crotch and making obscene gestures at bioya1 right now.

I can't be mad at ya though. Smoke 'em if ya got 'em. But, damn. You should ease off the electronics and finance a ****ing revolution or something.

Just doing my part to keep the economy moving along.

[PeterGriffin]

Just doing my part to keep the economy moving along.

I'm in the wrong business. I simply feel inadequate.

I have a lot of premier Pioneer home theater gear, but the only reason I could ever afford it was because I had an inside contact that could get me employee pricing. Even with that, I could never justify a Pioneer Elite TV. The rest of the stuff you listed, very very nice, but damn.....I feel like such a schnook looking at my 42" Sony plasma with 1200 watts of Pioneer 7.1 surround.

[Joenumbertwo]

Minimum is around $43 per month but I pay $50-60 so that when my 2 years of interest deferment come around I don't have that much time to accrue interest.

Not too bad, how's your credit?

I'm wasting my xbox 360 gaming on a ****ty 13 inch crt tv it's sad.

When I get my apartment next fall I want to get HD digital cable and enjoy my gaming in HD, but I'm really not used to any forms of credit or payment options like that.

Until very recently, my parents never used credit cards or anything of the sort, and since we never had much income, we only got what we could immediately afford, which was never much.

I got a credit card myself, but am still hesitant to make any big purchases but with huge sums of financial aid and work I'll be looking forward to, I may be able to afford a small luxury or two, while building my credit.

[grapabeaux]

All the enhancement I need:

http://www.dse.co.nz/isroot/dse/images/products/L4655.JPG

(I hear that in about a year, I'm screwed.)

[philstar]

My dad got a 62" LCD HD TV thingy a few years ago, since then he's gotten a 50" for his room, and one for the kitchen lol. He loves 'em.

As for HDDVD or Blueray: Not sure yet, he's thinking of getting a Blueray player.

I'm not too crazy about it, I spend most of my time at home on my computer anyways. It does look amazing though.

[Polkfan]

50 inch plasma samsung, bought at the peak of the sub-prime lending season. I am a college student with 0 income and 3 additional credit cards received within the last 12 months, walked into BestBuy, applied for their finance card, asked how much they'd approve.... somehow I was approved for the best card they offered. :rolleyes:

I'm sure if I went in there now they'd laugh at me.... but who is laughing now? I have their TV and they're just receiving no interest minimum payments for 2 more years. :cool:

Similar here, except it wasn't quite the best card they offer and planning to pay more than the mins, but purchased one of the best computers they carry.

[Polkfan]

Find out which format the porn industry is supporting. That will be your winner.

:))

[Honest_talk]

No, but we plan on getting one maybe later this year. I am a coumputer not so most of our extra scratch goes to our home studio and upgrades and we just had a baby.

NOt poor, it's just that money is allocated to different areas right now.

[MenigLBC]

Puchased within the last year:

32" LCD Samsung Aquos HDTV

Modified XBox 360 w/ HD-DVD, 4 wireless controllers - hooked up to my CPU and managed through Windows Media Center which is installed on one of my VMWare Virtual Machines.

:cool:

....and coming home for the holidays, I got to enjoy my Dad's new toy behemoth, a 70" JVC HDTV:
http://www.ubergizmo.com/photos/jvc-lcos-70.jpg

[CogitoErgoSum]

I just bought a 46" Samsung LCD from Best Buy along with a Playstation 3 to watch Blu-Ray DVD's. It’s Awesome! I also have HD receiver through my cable company.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8454825&type=product&id=1183767793513

[Fire Watch]

Find out which format the porn industry is supporting. That will be your winner.
Funny, but true.

[grapabeaux]

Well, I guess PG has a point...

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Even-The-Porn-Industry-Abandons-HD-DVD-75979.shtml

These past couple of days have been absolutely catastrophic for HD DVD, the next-generation disc format backed by Toshiba, Microsoft and Intel. First of all, Warner announced that it would commit solely to Blu-ray from now on, then the rumor mill had Paramount going the same way fast, while the sales figures released by the Blu-ray Disc Associations completely belittled HD DVD. However, it seems that this nightmarish week will end even worse than expected, because it seems that even pornographers are about to leave this sinking ship.

Thus, according to the German publication Heise, who has interviewed Digital Playground's founder, Joone, at this year's AVN Adult Entertainment Expo (AEE), it looks like the porn industry is seriously taking into consideration the possibility of going Blu-ray-only in the near future. Furthermore, the respective publisher has declared that, by the end of 2008, all of its new movies will probably be released in Blu-ray format only. ...

[jasons8166]

Im just to cheap to pay for it, hell my family doesnt even have cable.

[Gengar]

46" Sony LCD, and a 80GB PS3. :razz:

[MrShotShot]

All the enhancement I need:

http://www.dse.co.nz/isroot/dse/images/products/L4655.JPG

(I hear that in about a year, I'm screwed.)

Well you could probably make a couple of nice retractable fishing rods out of those.

[logicmaster]

Sony 50" SXRD in the living room with a PS3 for Bluray, Xbox360, and a Wii.

Toshiba 42" Projection HDTV bought back in 2001 for the bedroom.

HP 24" LCD (1920x1200) for the Gaming PC in my office.

Sony seems to be locking down bluray with the big studios as of late, who knows. I think digital distribution is the future, ie..streaming HD content through Netflix's upcoming box, IPTV from MS or Apple all via Internet, and further advances from OnDemand services through cable/satellite providers.

I don't ever think Bluray or HD-DVD will reach the pinnacle that DVD has reached.

[Jíbaro]

Interesting: Toshiba achieved the #1 sales volume in the next generation DVD category with an approximately 50 percent market share in 2007, HD DVD is proven to be the format of choice for consumers. Coupled with an 80 percent plus market share of all next generation DVD equipped notebooks for the 4th quarter 2007, the HD DVD format has already paved the way to a high definition digital AV solution by eliminating the boundaries between the consumer's living room and on the go. (http://www.dvdtown.com/news/toshiba-deploys-new-hd-dvd-marketing-campaign/5120)

[Jíbaro]

I found this:
http://www.netflix.com/BrowseSelection?sgid=2442&mqso=80008236 (http://www.netflix.com/BrowseSelection?sgid=2442&mqso=80008236)
Same price as regular DVD rentals.

[Chucky]

All the enhancement I need:

http://www.dse.co.nz/isroot/dse/images/products/L4655.JPG

(I hear that in about a year, I'm screwed.)Actually, you'll be able to get a digital/analog converter box to keep using your old TV. Cost should be $50-$100. If you have satellite TV, you're already ready doing this through its receiver. Cable might do this, too, somewhere in their broadcast chain, but I don't know.

BTW, your PC/Mac screen is HD - unless you have a REALLY old one!

[CogitoErgoSum]

Some news on HD DVD

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080115/tc_nm/media_toshiba_dc_1

[Grendel IV]

Digital cable, but no HD TV or Blu ray...
<shrug>
I don't watch tv that much...

[giuliag1]

:Where's the option for Honey, my life is much more interesting that what's on TV. I prefer real people (family and friends) and real toys.

We suspend satellite during the summer, because we don't even have the TV on...we're out...the real world....

:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:

[Jíbaro]

Some news on HD DVD

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080115/tc_nm/media_toshiba_dc_1

There is this one:
http://www.netflix.com/Genre?sgid=2442&lnkctr=LhcGenre2442 (http://www.netflix.com/Genre?sgid=2442&lnkctr=LhcGenre2442)

[Losertarian]

I am sorry I could not vote in your poll, I do not own a TV in my home at all.

[J10]

Toshiba 42" Projection HDTV bought back in 2001 for the bedroom.

That's a great TV.

[notluzn]

I have the best of the best HD TV and DVD.. Love it with my HD Direct TV also

[DarthBush]

I actual own both..

[JeffR]

I'm so poor I don't have an HDTV yet. I really hope I can afford one someday.

[DarthBush]

Just rob a bank..

;)

[bioya1]

Interesting:

Looks like HD DVD will turn out to be the Betamax after all.


One week after Warner Brothers Entertainment announced that it was abandoning its support for the next-generation HD DVD format in favor of the Blu-ray high-definition format, consumers abandoned HD DVD.

What was a 50-50 market split in 2007 for the high-definition players shifted sharply in Blu-ray’s favor in the new year. For the week that ended Jan. 12, Blu-ray hardware captured 90 percent of the market, according to data collected by the NPD Group, a market analysis firm.

...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/28/technology/28disc.html?_r=1&ei=5088&en=34e6ecdf1b4604bb&ex=1359262800&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1201534395-/knEoL+0JIdeVm022591sA

[chip]

Blue Ray on the laptop and on the PS3.

62 inch Mistubishi 1080p tv.

[Jíbaro]

Looks like HD DVD will turn out to be the Betamax after all.


You are late by two weeks and sales of HD-DVD boxes have rebounded:
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/12742.cfm (http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/12742.cfm)

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/hd%20dvd%20sales%20rebound_1057944 (http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/hd%20dvd%20sales%20rebound_1057944)

http://www.videobusiness.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA6526968 (http://www.videobusiness.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA6526968)
BTW, did you know of the SONY payola to Warner Bros? It was $500 million dollars:
SONY PAYOLA LINK (http://gizmodo.com/346783/the-truth-about-the-format-war-and-hd-dvds-demise)

[bioya1]

You are late by two weeks and sales of HD-DVD boxes have rebounded:http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/12742.cfm (http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/12742.cfm)


http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/hd%20dvd%20sales%20rebound_1057944 (http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/hd%20dvd%20sales%20rebound_1057944)


http://www.videobusiness.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA6526968 (http://www.videobusiness.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA6526968)

BTW, did you know of the SONY payola to Warner Bros? It was $500 million dollars:SONY PAYOLA LINK (http://gizmodo.com/346783/the-truth-about-the-format-war-and-hd-dvds-demise)


Do you ever read your own links?


Where we officially are: The ball is in Toshiba's court, and Universal, Paramount and DreamWorks Animation are sticking with Toshiba until it calls it quits, which it may do if the market" for its players turns sour—according to Toshiba, the most recent price cuts (http://gizmodo.com/344444/toshiba-totally-gutting-hd-dvd-prices-will-it-help) may well lead to a sales bump before any kind of bitter end.

Where we actually are: Blu-ray execs are 100 percent confident they have won—publicly and privately in our conversations with them; dual-format swinger Samsung thinks HD DVD's back was broken on the Hollywood front (http://gizmodo.com/341906/interview-samsung-says-theres-life-after-hollywood-for-hd-dvd) and will be relegated to personally recorded content; an IDC analyst told us Toshiba may fall back on dual-format players (http://gizmodo.com/341371/prediction-hd-dvd-not-dead-toshiba-will-produce-dual-format-hd-players), like Samsung and LG. It could have gone either way just a few weeks ago, but now it really is over for HD DVD.

[Jíbaro]

Do you ever read your own links?


Don't you feel ashamed of siding with a Monopolist like SONY?
Specially after their $500 payola?
Then again, Socialist do love monopolies...

[bioya1]

Don't you feel ashamed of siding with a Monopolist like SONY?Specially after their $500 payola?
Then again, Socialist do love monopolies...

Remember that my HD DVD drive was purchased from Microsoft, a company that has also had some problems when it comes to market dominance issues but whatever.

In any event, we have both drives in our house. Besides, I don't watch that many DVDs so I don't really care all that much.

Why do you care that much anyway? You can still play regular DVDs in your HD DVD player, can't you?

BTW, I am not a Socialist. I also don't think that a Socialist would warm that much towards a monopoly in any event.

[Jíbaro]

Remember that my HD DVD drive was purchased from Microsoft, a company that has also had some problems when it comes to market dominance issues but whatever.

In any event, we have both drives in our house. Besides, I don't watch that many DVDs so I don't really care all that much.

Why do you care that much anyway? You can still play regular DVDs in your HD DVD player, can't you?

BTW, I am not a Socialist. I also don't think that a Socialist would warm that much towards a monopoly in any event.
I had a Marxist Math Teacher at highschool in Puerto Rico, and he told me one day among his daily Marxist diatribe (teachers unions do have a monopoly...), that if given a million dollars, he would be the happiest guy in the world.
If you scratch a little the surface of 99.9% Marxists, there is a greedy materialist who drivels at the thought of getting rich by confiscating the wealth of those who earn it.
Last night, while watching James Cagney in "ONE, TWO THREE", I laughed as I was reminded of these facts.

[bioya1]

I had a Marxist Math Teacher at highschool in Puerto Rico, and he told me one day among his daily Marxist diatribe (teachers unions do have a monopoly...), that if given a million dollars, he would be the happiest guy in the world.If you scratch a little the surface of 99.9% Marxists, there is a greedy materialist who drivels at the thought of getting rich by confiscating the wealth of those who earn it.
Last night, while watching James Cagney in "ONE, TWO THREE", I laughed as I was reminded of these facts.

I see, but why do you care how Sony spends their shareholder's money?

It sounds like they were both doing it but that Sony was willing to be the high bidder. How is one good while other is bad.

[supreme_war_Pig]

50 inch plasma samsung, bought at the peak of the sub-prime lending season. I am a college student with 0 income and 3 additional credit cards received within the last 12 months, walked into BestBuy, applied for their finance card, asked how much they'd approve.... somehow I was approved for the best card they offered. :rolleyes:

I'm sure if I went in there now they'd laugh at me.... but who is laughing now? I have their TV and they're just receiving no interest minimum payments for 2 more years. :cool:

Nice.

[Jíbaro]

I see, but why do you care how Sony spends their shareholder's money?

It sounds like they were both doing it but that Sony was willing to be the high bidder. How is one good while other is bad.
I do care about being FORCED to buy SONY (something that reminds me why some people risked their lives and homes for signing a document in 1776...).
Particularly in view of SONY boxes costing $500, while Toshiba boxes cost $129.
Then again that may not matter to you if you don't have an HDTV.

[Jíbaro]

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/29/latest-npd-report-shows-blu-ray-sales-were-no-trend/

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadgethd.com/media/2008/01/npdjan19.jpg

[Charmagne]

Our old big screen TV gave up and we knew the switch was coming, so we got an HD-TV. We also live out in the middle of nowhere and we do not have satelite or cable, so we had to get an HD indoor antenna at radio shack. The antenna made all the difference in the world and we get a much better picture.

[sironin]

I do care about being FORCED to buy SONY (something that reminds me why some people risked their lives and homes for signing a document in 1776...).
Particularly in view of SONY boxes costing $500, while Toshiba boxes cost $129.
Then again that may not matter to you if you don't have an HDTV.

You can get the cheaper PS3 for $400 ($399), and during black friday sales (last november), the HD-DVD and Blue-Ray players were priced similarly. The players are expected to come down quite a bit now that Blue-Ray has essentially won the format wars. However, for a lot of people that also wanted a gaming system, the PS3 is a pretty good bargain. As it's a game system, an upconverter (for playing DVDs at better resolutions on HDTVs), and it has a lot more manufacture support regarding keeping the unit up to date and free of errors.

[Jíbaro]

You can get the cheaper PS3 for $400 ($399), and during black friday sales (last november), the HD-DVD and Blue-Ray players were priced similarly. The players are expected to come down quite a bit now that Blue-Ray has essentially won the format wars. However, for a lot of people that also wanted a gaming system, the PS3 is a pretty good bargain. As it's a game system, an upconverter (for playing DVDs at better resolutions on HDTVs), and it has a lot more manufacture support regarding keeping the unit up to date and free of errors.
Actually, if you go to SAMS Club, and buy yourself a Toshiba D3, with the two movies in the package, plus another five free HD-DVD movies offer, you actually get the whole deal for free, and you get another $46 extra than you spent:

-$128.99 Toshiba
+ 7*$25.00 HD-DVDs
--------
$46.01

[bioya1]

Actually, if you go to SAMS Club, and buy yourself a Toshiba D3, with the two movies in the package, plus another five free HD-DVD movie offer, you actually get the whole deal for free, and you get another $46 extra than you spent:

-$128.99 Toshiba
+ 7*$25.00 HD-DVDs
--------
$46.01

But then you are stuck with the equivalent of BetaMax.

What do you suppose a cassette player sells for these days?

[Jíbaro]

Actually, if you go to SAMS Club, and buy yourself a Toshiba D3, with the two movies in the package, plus another five free HD-DVD movies offer, you actually get the whole deal for free, and you get another $46 extra than you spent:

-$128.99 Toshiba
+ 7*$25.00 HD-DVDs
--------
$46.01
But then you are stuck with the equivalent of BetaMax.

What do you suppose a cassette player sells for these days?

I don't know, I used cassettes for 30 years until recently.

BTW, Betamax movies were available in many rental places around here until some 7 years ago. Amazing, how long lived the "obsolete" medium was.

Anyway, I don't see anything wrong with getting paid by Toshiba $46.01 to get my free HD-DVD player :cool:.

In the mean time, I get my HD-DVD rentals from NETFLIX, some 3 movies every other business day, for only $16.99 a month :mrgreen:.

[Ex_Spy_Guy]

psp

[Jíbaro]

http://news.punchjump.com/article.php?id=5511 (http://news.punchjump.com/article.php?id=5511)

$124 for the A3, wow :eek:!!!!!!!

[fallenturtle]

Am I the only projector owner here?

720p DLP projector, projecting onto a roughly 110" (diag) screen. No HD-DVD or blu-ray (waiting for a winner) so all my HD content is from my media PC hooked up to the projector. Also got a Wii, Xbox 360, and collecting dust, my PS2. :D

Seriously though, if anyone is in the market for an HDTV and you have a large room with good light control, get a projector and a screen and you'll save tons of money. My screen was under $500 and the projector was around $1000 and the picture is awesome.

[Jito463]

Heck, not only do I NOT own an HDTV yet, I don't even own a TV. I have a TV tuner card in my computer, but it's not playing nice with Vista (Media Center won't even recognize it exists, and the official software isn't giving me anything but blue). But I do have a rather large collection of DVD movies (close to 500, not including the TV shows on DVD I own).

[Jíbaro]

Heck, not only do I NOT own an HDTV yet, I don't even own a TV. I have a TV tuner card in my computer, but it's not playing nice with Vista (Media Center won't even recognize it exists, and the official software isn't giving me anything but blue). But I do have a rather large collection of DVD movies (close to 500, not including the TV shows on DVD I own).
Regular DVD's get a boost of resolution in an HD-DVD, to HDTV levels.

[puddinstirrer]

we have a 26" HDTV, Samsung in the living room and 15" samsung Hdtv in the spare room. We'l be getting a Blu-ray when the prices come down. Hubby seems to think Blu-ray will win out over hd-dvd.

I could vote I own a blu-ray but I don't yet.

[Jíbaro]

we have a 26" HDTV, Samsung in the living room and 15" samsung Hdtv in the spare room. We'l be getting a Blu-ray when the prices come down. Hubby seems to think Blu-ray will win out over hd-dvd.

I could vote I own a blu-ray but I don't yet.
Go to SAMS Club and buy the Toshiba D3 HD-DVD.
It will only cost $128.99, and it comes with two free movies in the box.
Then go to the Toshiba website, download the form and request your five free HD-DVD movies.

When you add it together, Toshiba is paying you $45 to get the D3, and you can watch regular DVD's in HDTV quality.

[Jíbaro]

http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/2008/02/04/publishers-say-screw-it-choose-both-in-hd-dvd-vs-blu-ray-war/ (http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/2008/02/04/publishers-say-screw-it-choose-both-in-hd-dvd-vs-blu-ray-war/)

Charlie Wilson's War is also coming out in HD-DVD:
http://www.themanroom.com/news/Charlie_Wilsons_War_Coming_to_HD_DVD/2129 (http://www.themanroom.com/news/Charlie_Wilsons_War_Coming_to_HD_DVD/2129)

[bioya1]

When you add it together, Toshiba is paying you $45 to get the D3, and you can watch regular DVD's in HDTV quality.

No, they are not paying you $45 at all.

They are giving you a DVD player and some DVDs for $128.99 plus taxes and handling.

A lot of people own a DVD player but very few DVDs since they rent them at places like Blockbuster. Of course, you can't actually rent HD-DVDs at Blockbuster(they do have some Blu-Ray titles) but the regulat DVDs will still play very nice in your Toshiba.

[Jíbaro]

Go to SAMS Club and buy the Toshiba D3 HD-DVD.It will only cost $128.99, and it comes with two free movies in the box.
Then go to the Toshiba website, download the form and request your five free HD-DVD movies.

When you add it together, Toshiba is actually paying you $45 to get the D3, plus you can watch regular DVD's in HDTV quality.
http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/2008/02/04/publishers-say-screw-it-choose-both-in-hd-dvd-vs-blu-ray-war/ (http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/2008/02/04/publishers-say-screw-it-choose-both-in-hd-dvd-vs-blu-ray-war/)


Charlie Wilson's War is also coming out in HD-DVD: http://www.themanroom.com/news/Charlie_Wilsons_War_Coming_to_HD_DVD/2129 (http://www.themanroom.com/news/Charlie_Wilsons_War_Coming_to_HD_DVD/2129)

http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/forbiddenplanet.html (http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/forbiddenplanet.html)

[Jíbaro]

http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/images/post/1/1799/original.pjpeg

HAPPY FEET was stunning (AWESOME) in HD-DVD.

It looked so real.

[MrShotShot]

What about this ULTRA high definition that will be entering the market in a couple of years? Granted, most of us don't have the space for an 15 foot television, but how many folks were saying that 5 years ago about the 60" models?

Are we close to the point of absurdity with all of this? I mean, how much clearer of a picture do we actually need - HD is like you're practically there anyway.

[rgandy1018]

Not currently, but planning on buying a HDTV once the $ to do so comes in.

[Jíbaro]

For XBOX users, the HD-DVD add on is now $130, which is almost half price from Christmas:
http://blogs.pcworld.com/gameon/archives/006452.html (http://blogs.pcworld.com/gameon/archives/006452.html)

[Jíbaro]

Guys on the West Coast are buying them up like crazy:
http://news.punchjump.com/article.php?id=5532 (http://news.punchjump.com/article.php?id=5532)

[ElwoodWV]

If you own a computer with a decent LCD monitor, you own a high-definition media device. It's just a matter of whether or not you have a supporting drive or media that can take advantage of the resolution.

As for me, as much as I love video and sound, I do not own a hi-def TV or DVD player. In fact, the DVD player I do own went down around the time I lost my job along with one of my laptop computers and then my car suffered irrepairable damage. The remaining laptop is doing double-duty as a DVD player for my living room TV right now. I don't even have cable. As a musician, I've put my instruments higher in priority than entertainment and I've put my family before either. Four kids, no job and modest income before that = no hi-def for me any time in the forseeable future.

[bioya1]

Go to SAMS Club and buy the Toshiba D3 HD-DVD.Better hurry though:


.
http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssConsumerGoodsAndRetailNews/idUSN1559110620080215

Wal-Mart dumps HD DVDs, backs Blu-ray

Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT.N: Quote (http://www.reuters.com/stocks/quote?symbol=WMT.N), Profile (http://www.reuters.com/stocks/companyProfile?symbol=WMT.N), Research (http://www.reuters.com/stocks/researchReports?symbol=WMT.N)) has decided to exclusively sell high-definition DVDs in the Blu-Ray format, dealing what could be a crippling blow to the rival HD DVD technology backed by Toshiba Corp (6502.T: Quote (http://www.reuters.com/stocks/quote?symbol=6502.T), Profile (http://www.reuters.com/stocks/companyProfile?symbol=6502.T), Research (http://www.reuters.com/stocks/researchReports?symbol=6502.T)).

The move by the world's largest retailer, announced on Friday, caps a disappointing week for HD DVD supporters, who also saw consumer electronics chain Best Buy Co Inc (BBY.N: Quote (http://www.reuters.com/stocks/quote?symbol=BBY.N), Profile (http://www.reuters.com/stocks/companyProfile?symbol=BBY.N), Research (http://www.reuters.com/stocks/researchReports?symbol=BBY.N)) and online video rental company Netflix Inc (NFLX.O: Quote (http://www.reuters.com/stocks/quote?symbol=NFLX.O), Profile (http://www.reuters.com/stocks/companyProfile?symbol=NFLX.O), Research (http://www.reuters.com/stocks/researchReports?symbol=NFLX.O)) defect to the Blu-ray camp.

In a statement on its Web site, Wal-Mart said that over the next few months it will phase out sales of HD DVD systems and discs. By June, it will sell only products in the Blu-ray format which was developed by Sony Corp (6758.T: Quote (http://www.reuters.com/stocks/quote?symbol=6758.T), Profile (http://www.reuters.com/stocks/companyProfile?symbol=6758.T), Research (http://www.reuters.com/stocks/researchReports?symbol=6758.T)).

"We've listened to our customers, who are showing a clear preference toward Blu-ray products and movies with their purchases," said Gary Severson, a Wal-Mart senior vice president.

The move affects 4,000 Wal-Mart and Sam's Club stores in the United States, as well as related online sites. The stores will continue to sell traditional DVD players and movies.

...

[chip]

So much for HD-DVD

[bioya1]

So much for HD-DVD

Too bad I never bought a stand-alone player, my Pioneer Elite Laser Disc player has always needed a mate.

[angelicmadrigal]

Do you own a High Definition Media Device?

Nope, and I do not intend on buying one. I can play my PS2 and watch DVDs just fine on regular TV, thanks. :)

[Tweetie]

Do you own a High Definition Media Device?


Sony HD TV..1080 baby! We are yet to switch over to HD channels, that's in the near future..

As for Blue Ray, does the PS3 count? We own a bunch of Blu ray discs that we play on the PS3.

[bioya1]

Sony HD TV..1080 baby! We are yet to switch over to HD channels, that's in the near future..

As for Blue Ray, does the PS3 count? We own a bunch of Blu ray discs that we play on the PS3.

You will be amazed at HD channels.

PS3 definitely counts!

[blklab]

NO - not even a TV. So many of the programs I find are stupid and the commercials will drive a person nuts. When better programs become available for viewing without causing a person to dumb-down I may consider TV. I will admit public TV does a much better job than all the others tho. But I can still do without it.

[NascarGirl2448]

My dad has a 13 inch HDTV in his den, but none of the other 5 tvs in the house are HD.

[scipio337]

Yes, Sony LCD.

I'm trying to figure out whether to buy an Xbox 360, or PS3. It looks like BluRay has won the HD war, so I've been thinking PS3, but everyone I know (Xbox Live) has a 360.

Any advice?

[enki]

I have the Xbox360 HD Drive. It offers an amazing picture, even on standard definition DVD's. But the drive and the Xbox themselves are really loud.

Since HD is pretty much giving up I am probably going to pick up a PS3 soon. But I'm sure I'll still use the Xbox for games most of the time. But, it'll give me an option when Force Unleashed, Ghostbusters, Brutal Legend and Dead Rising 2 come out... well, unless Microsoft ads a Bluray drive.

[Lego-Man]

Do you own a High Definition Media Device?

The poll doesn't give all the options. I don't have any of the poll options, but I paid extra for my laptop to be high-def.

[LoneStarHero]

No high def TV. It's not that I am too poor for it, but I don't watch enough TV. I still have rabbit ears and have not lived in a household with cable for nearly five years. However I do waste a lot of time on my laptop which I do believe has a high definition screen.

[sircharliebrown]

Yes. I inherited it when my boyfriend moved in with me. :whistle:

[bioya1]

I'm trying to figure out whether to buy an Xbox 360, or PS3. It looks like BluRay has won the HD war, so I've been thinking PS3, but everyone I know (Xbox Live) has a 360.


We actually have both systems and both get used by my son. He claims it depends on the specific game he is playing though his advice would be to go with PS3. He claims that the game manufacturers are just now catching up to the capabilities of PS3 and that it will prove to have better legs than Xbox.

[bioya1]

This makes it official:.


'
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/business/AP-Japan-Toshiba.html?ex=1361077200&en=aa297d939e9f9152&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

Toshiba Quits HD DVD Business

Toshiba (http://www.nytimes.com/mem/MWredirect.html?MW=http://custom.marketwatch.com/custom/nyt-com/html-companyprofile.asp&symb=TOSBF) said Tuesday it will no longer develop, make or market HD DVD players and recorders, handing a victory to rival Blu-ray disc technology in the format battle for next-generation video.

''We concluded that a swift decision would be best,'' Toshiba President Atsutoshi Nishida told reporters at his company's Tokyo offices.

The move would make Blu-ray -- backed by Sony Corp. (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/sony_corporation/index.html?inline=nyt-org), Matsu****a Electric Industrial Co. (http://www.nytimes.com/mem/MWredirect.html?MW=http://custom.marketwatch.com/custom/nyt-com/html-companyprofile.asp&symb=MC), which makes Panasonic brand products, and five major Hollywood movie studios -- the winner in the battle over high-definition DVD formatting that began several years ago.

Nishida said last month's decision by Warner Bros. Entertainment to release movie discs only in the Blu-ray format made the move inevitable.

''That had tremendous impact,'' he said. ''If we had continued, that would have created problems for consumers, and we simply had no chance to win.''

...

[notluzn]

Well this is a bad thing. Why can't they just have both? A lot of people bought HD DVD players and are much cheaper than Blu Ray. Blu Ray is over $300.00 and HD DVD was only $89 and up. Plus the HD DVD's are cheaper. IMO, this is a bad move. You can't tell the difference between the 2 also.

[Jíbaro]

Well this is a bad thing. Why can't they just have both? A lot of people bought HD DVD players and are much cheaper than Blu Ray. Blu Ray is over $300.00 and HD DVD was only $89 and up. Plus the HD DVD's are cheaper. IMO, this is a bad move. You can't tell the difference between the 2 also.
Without competition, Blu-Ray is bound to stay at $300 forever.

O, well. So I shed a few tears for a day :cry:.

On the upside, I spent only a few dollars for my player and its movies; and regular DVD's look great :mrgreen:. Anyone who bought a Blu-Ray in the past, will have to buy a NEW Blu-Ray when the 2.0 standard comes out in a year anyway.
Now, if HD movies were sold in memory chips, like Nintendo DS chips, that would be better than HD-DVD and Blu-Ray together :think:...

[bioya1]

Now, if HD movies were sold in memory chips, like Nintendo DS chips, that would be better than HD-DVD and Blu-Ray together :think:...

Solid-state (similar to flash memory) chips and HD downloads are the longer term wave of the future.

Blu-Ray's victory will have less economic significance that the VHS victory over Beta-Max had.

[Lego-Man]

No high def TV. It's not that I am too poor for it, but I don't watch enough TV. I still have rabbit ears and have not lived in a household with cable for nearly five years. However I do waste a lot of time on my laptop which I do believe has a high definition screen.

Them rabbit-ears is gonna be no good as of next February. Analog broadcasts are gonna stop. I also understand (but may be mistaken) that this also covers radio broadcasts as well.

[Jíbaro]

La REVANCHA:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/infoworld/20080225/tc_infoworld/95524 (http://news.yahoo.com/s/infoworld/20080225/tc_infoworld/95524)

[CogitoErgoSum]

From what I can determine, none of the downloads are in HD. And besides, if I watch a movie on my PC, I won't be paying for it.

[sironin]

Without competition, Blu-Ray is bound to stay at $300 forever.

I seem to recall VCRs costing over $1000 at one point. I also seem to recall DVD players costing over $400 at one point (I got my last one for $15). I don't see any basis in fact that prevents competition between blue-ray player manufacturers.

Anyone who bought a Blu-Ray in the past, will have to buy a NEW Blu-Ray when the 2.0 standard comes out in a year anyway.
Now, if HD movies were sold in memory chips, like Nintendo DS chips, that would be better than HD-DVD and Blu-Ray together :think:...

People that own a blue-ray player in the form of a PS3, at least, won't need to buy anything new. As they will just be able to download an update. Similar firmware updates should also be available from the leading manufacturers for various other blue-ray players shortly after the new spec comes out (as long as the device has upgradeable firmware, which it should).

[Ruzzty]

Them rabbit-ears is gonna be no good as of next February. Analog broadcasts are gonna stop. I also understand (but may be mistaken) that this also covers radio broadcasts as well.

Rabbit-ears work fine for HDTV. I use rabbit ears for my 50" Sony HDTV and I get up to 1080i [720p].

Cable and satellite services are trying to mislead consumers that they are the only options for "true" HD. I'll take my rabbit ear HDTV over them any day of the week.

[Ruzzty]

Well this is a bad thing. Why can't they just have both? A lot of people bought HD DVD players and are much cheaper than Blu Ray. Blu Ray is over $300.00 and HD DVD was only $89 and up. Plus the HD DVD's are cheaper. IMO, this is a bad move. You can't tell the difference between the 2 also.

I just bought the HD DVD player that attaches to my XBox360 for $49.99. Yes, HD DVD lost the battle, but for that low cost.... it was worth it. Plus, HD DVD movies are bound to sell for 1/2 price since Blu ray won.

[hawke]

Unfortunately I picked HD DVD. I didn't buy many discs, however so it's not that bad. I will say, it looks awesome on my projector though. Picked this up a couple weeks ago:

http://store.audioholics.com/product/1730/66/epson-powerlite-home-cinema-1080-ub

Once you have a 100-inch screen, it doesn't matter if it's Blu-ray or HD DVD - it looks GOOD! At this point I'm waiting to see what the next wave of players bring. Until they are Profile 2.0 (BD-Live) I don't see any point in buying a BD player.

- H

[johnTD]

i'm betting that blue ray will be a bust, and hi def will be overtaken by direct downloads via netflix/itunes/apple tv/tivo Home Theater PCs will be the next big thing. Owning physical media is so 2005, large hard drives are now.

[Jíbaro]

http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?no_d2=1&sid=08/03/08/1650259 (http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?no_d2=1&sid=08/03/08/1650259)

Anyone buying a blue-ray machine NOW will still have to get rid of it and replace it with a new blue-ray next year, so HD-DVD is still a good buy until Fall :mrgreen:.

[Radioflyer]

Do you own a High Definition Media Device?Nope. Still using a TV set I bought in the early ninties. I don't plan on buying HD until the equiptment I've been using for the past ten years or more breaks down. Heck I'm still using windows 98SE mainly because the programs I like don't work on the newer versions.


This switch over to new video standards isn't like the switchover between Betamaxx and VHS or eight track and cassette, they were market driven thus justifiable in a free market capitalist system. This is something else entirely and it's not pretty.

[JohnRandolph]

Nope, I havent seen the need. The stuff I have works satisfactorily so why bother?

[CogitoErgoSum]

Nope, I havent seen the need. The stuff I have works satisfactorily so why bother?


Im sure many people said the same thing when the transition from black & white to color TV took place.

[Jíbaro]

http://www.mcgbfa.com/SensArticles.aspx?Id=294722 (http://www.mcgbfa.com/SensArticles.aspx?Id=294722)

One would only wish they realize that they need to recoup their HD DVD investment by selling HD DVD movies and equipment for the next 18 months.

[sironin]

http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?no_d2=1&sid=08/03/08/1650259 (http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?no_d2=1&sid=08/03/08/1650259)

Anyone buying a blue-ray machine NOW will still have to get rid of it and replace it with a new blue-ray next year, so HD-DVD is still a good buy until Fall :mrgreen:.

Not entirely true. The most popular blue-ray player, the PS3, will be fully compliant with the standards update via a free update download. Several other standalone units may also have firmware updates.

[abileneken]

I love my 42" HD TV

[Lego-Man]

Nope, I havent seen the need. The stuff I have works satisfactorily so why bother?

because your tv and radio will quit working after Feb 19 next year.

[JohnRandolph]

because your tv and radio will quit working after Feb 19 next year.

Actually this is not the case for me. I am on Direct TV not rabbit ears. They are already on HD and my stuff works just fine. When contacted they advised that there will be no problems. As for radio, no big loss there either, from Mozart to Pink Floyd, the CDs will continue to play just fine.

[sironin]

Actually this is not the case for me. I am on Direct TV not rabbit ears. They are already on HD and my stuff works just fine. When contacted they advised that there will be no problems. As for radio, no big loss there either, from Mozart to Pink Floyd, the CDs will continue to play just fine.

You can also get a signal converter (if you ever wanted one) and get a rebate from the government. Old screens won't magically stop working or anything, and will still continue to be useful. Also, I highly recommend internet radio.

That being said, LCD HDTVs are roughly equivalent in pricing to computer monitors of a similar size. So if you're ever looking to replace an old 20" crt with something new, you can't really go wrong by getting something with an hd tv tuner built into it.

[Jíbaro]

http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9896524-7.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20 (http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9896524-7.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20)

[Jíbaro]

HD DVD death leads to price hikes in Blu-Ray:
http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/200812/436/HD-DVD-death-leads-to-Blu-ray-price-increases (http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/200812/436/HD-DVD-death-leads-to-Blu-ray-price-increases)

[bioya1]

HD DVD death leads to price hikes in Blu-Ray:http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/200812/436/HD-DVD-death-leads-to-Blu-ray-price-increases (http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/200812/436/HD-DVD-death-leads-to-Blu-ray-price-increases)


Too bad you didn't buy sooner.

[Jíbaro]

Too bad you didn't buy sooner.
Anyone who bought a blu-ray player will have to buy a new one when their 2.0 Spec comes out next summer:
http://www.electronichouse.com/article/the_past_present_and_future_of_blu_ray/C201 (http://www.electronichouse.com/article/the_past_present_and_future_of_blu_ray/C201)

[Jíbaro]

http://techdigest.tv/microsoft_sez_blu-ray_sucks.gif

[CogitoErgoSum]

Anyone who bought a blu-ray player will have to buy a new one when their 2.0 Spec comes out next summer:
http://www.electronichouse.com/article/the_past_present_and_future_of_blu_ray/C201 (http://www.electronichouse.com/article/the_past_present_and_future_of_blu_ray/C201)


I (and most) already have the Blu-Ray 2.0 Spec.

And the the old Blu-rays will still work even after the 2.0 is released, you just wont be able to access some of the extra features that the 2.0 discs will offer.

[sironin]

Anyone who bought a blu-ray player will have to buy a new one when their 2.0 Spec comes out next summer:
http://www.electronichouse.com/article/the_past_present_and_future_of_blu_ray/C201 (http://www.electronichouse.com/article/the_past_present_and_future_of_blu_ray/C201)


The most popular blue-ray player, the ps3, will be able to update itself via a download from the playstation network.

[Jíbaro]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080321/tc_nm/itc_patent_dc (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080321/tc_nm/itc_patent_dc)

The U.S. International Trade Commission is launching an investigation of PATENT INFRINGEMENT against SONY over its Blu-Ray technology.

I wonder if other invetigations will follow, given that the HD disk war was a lot dirtier than what MS did to its rivals :think:.

[sironin]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080321/tc_nm/itc_patent_dc (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080321/tc_nm/itc_patent_dc)

The U.S. International Trade Commission is launching an investigation of PATENT INFRINGEMENT against SONY over its Blu-Ray technology.

I wonder if other invetigations will follow, given that the HD disk war was a lot dirtier than what MS did to its rivals :think:.

Sony isn't the only person on this lawsuit. Basically anyone that has produced a short wavelength (blue) LED is being sued.

[Jíbaro]

http://www.dailygame.net/news/archives/007455.php (http://www.dailygame.net/news/archives/007455.php)

The movie TWISTER may be the last HD-DVD movie to be printed.

We HD-DVD owners better make a line for it.

[Jíbaro]

http://blogs.zdnet.com/carroll/?p=1818 (http://blogs.zdnet.com/carroll/?p=1818)

http://techdigest.tv/2008/04/survey_hd_dvd_i.html (http://techdigest.tv/2008/04/survey_hd_dvd_i.html)

http://news.punchjump.com/article.php?id=5796 (http://news.punchjump.com/article.php?id=5796)

[Jíbaro]

http://www.hddvd.com/ (http://www.hddvd.com/)

:mrgreen:

[CogitoErgoSum]

http://www.hddvd.com/ (http://www.hddvd.com/)

:mrgreen:

Hey Jib, you seem to have a thing for artifacts, so I added a few links that you might enjoy looking at:

WWW.BETTAMAX.COM
WWW.8-TRACK.COM

Enjoy,

[Jíbaro]

Another update:
http://www.gastongazette.com/news/ray_19053___article.html/blu_dvd.html (http://www.gastongazette.com/news/ray_19053___article.html/blu_dvd.html)

[CogitoErgoSum]

Another update:
http://www.gastongazette.com/news/ray_19053___article.html/blu_dvd.html (http://www.gastongazette.com/news/ray_19053___article.html/blu_dvd.html)



Jib, thanks for the link, it was informative. This is the part that best describes the whole HD / Blu-ray issue the best:

"The author says that most of the players on the market will become obsolete with the introduction of BD 2 later this year. This blatant innaccuracy is repeated so often I'm beginning to wonder if its being done on purpose. Blu Ray profile 1 and 11 players WILL NOT become obsolete when profile 2 players ship. All profiles play all movies and the only things added are picture in picture and internet interactivity. Neither of which affect the ability to watch films. A profile 1 or 11 player is no more obsolete than an MP3 player which doesnt have wifi or a DVD player that doesnt support DiVX. Also the PS3 was updated to support profile 2 last month so a full profile player is available right now. Advising people to buy HD DVD players is frankly mindboggling. Isnt the author aware that the vast majority of studios have already dropped the format altogether and a growing number of retailers have removed them from their stock?"

[Jíbaro]

More news on the HD front:
http://www.canmag.com/nw/10899-bee-movie-dvd-review (http://www.canmag.com/nw/10899-bee-movie-dvd-review)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7334152.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7334152.stm)

[Jíbaro]

About Blu-Ray:

http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/07/sony-could-have-difficulty-taking-blu-ray-share-to-50-this-year/ (http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/07/sony-could-have-difficulty-taking-blu-ray-share-to-50-this-year/)

[sironin]

I've heard rumors that we'll start to see stuff out on blue-ray from previously hd-dvd only producers as early as this summer. That's a pretty massive back catalog.

[jimjames418]

My son gave me a Blu-Ray player last fall. I like it for action movies. Those that like to look at women may not like it very much. It will and does show all flaws, even those they attempt to cover with make up. :((

You can even count the hairs on the ladies. And believe me they do have hair.

[PaleoPaul]

I will in 2 weeks

[Jíbaro]

http://www.biosmagazine.co.uk/article.php?id=5745 (http://www.biosmagazine.co.uk/article.php?id=5745)

http://www.northjersey.com/betterliving/shopping/17318689.html

[Jíbaro]

http://www.premiere.com/dvdreviews/4426/high-definition-dvd-consumer-guide-special-so-long-hd-dvd-edition.html

[Jíbaro]

Good news:http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=86941

[Jíbaro]

http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/14000/15024/Samsung-launch-Blu-ray-HDDVD-drive.phtml

http://www.smh.com.au/news/how-tos/macman-making-toast/2008/04/16/1208025201345.html

http://www.edn.com/blog/400000040/post/890025089.html

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/36974/135/

[Krandor]

Blu-Ray player here and love it. With the high def video plus the lossless audio it really is like watching a movie in the theater, but without the extra noise.

I am done buying anything on standard DVD. Only Blu-Ray for me from now on.

[Jíbaro]

Blu-Ray player here and love it. With the high def video plus the lossless audio it really is like watching a movie in the theater, but without the extra noise.

I am done buying anything on standard DVD. Only Blu-Ray for me from now on.
High Definition will turn movie houses obsolete.
Unless of course, cinemas deliver 3D, or IMAX all the time.
For example, King Kong in HD DVD and a 50 inch plasma looks like it is almost 3D; downright scary.

As for me, I'll get Blu-Ray as soon as it hits the $75 dollar threshhold.

[CogitoErgoSum]

High Definition will turn movie houses obsolete.
Unless of course, cinemas deliver 3D, or IMAX all the time.
For example, King Kong in HD DVD and a 50 inch plasma looks like it is almost 3D; downright scary.

As for me, I'll get Blu-Ray as soon as it hits the $75 dollar threshhold.

If all you want to spend is $75, you wont be getting a blu-ray.

However, on the bright side, you may be able get a HD-DVD by late summer/early fall.

[sironin]

If all you want to spend is $75, you wont be getting a blu-ray.

However, on the bright side, you may be able get a HD-DVD by late summer/early fall.

In two or three years it may actually be that cheap. VCR's started at over $1000, dvd players started at over $500, DVRs started at over $500. Blue-ray started at over $500. Everything comes down in time. Materials advancement and competition always brings the price down to a happy medium for consumers. Once the HDTV's start hitting the sub-$1000 market for the larger ones, you'll start seeing significant drops for the basic players.

[Jíbaro]

http://www.dvdtown.com/reviews/august-rush/5833

[Jíbaro]

HD over cable is a little crappy nowadays:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/compressed_hd

[Claymore]

I'm so poor I don't have an HDTV yet.

I'm so poor I can't pay attention.:rolleyes:

[Jíbaro]

I'm so poor I don't have an HDTV yet.

I'm so poor I can't pay attention.:rolleyes:
If you get any money back from your taxes, try buying the biggest HD set your money can buy.
HD movies I have seen are awesome.
For example, King Kong in HD DVD is out of this world.

Even the BATTLE OF THE BULGE is impressive.

[Jíbaro]

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/business/stories/2008/04/21/technobuddy_0421.ART_ART_04-21-08_C9_8P9V98Q.html?type=rss&cat=&sid=101

[CogitoErgoSum]

If you get any money back from your taxes, try buying the biggest HD set your money can buy.
HD movies I have seen are awesome.
For example, King Kong in HD DVD is out of this world.

Even the BATTLE OF THE BULGE is impressive.


I just bought BBC's Planet Earth on Blu-Ray, it is awsome!

http://www.amazon.com/Planet-Earth-Complete-BBC-Blu-ray/dp/B000MRAAJM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1208812500&sr=1-2

[Jíbaro]

I just bought BBC's Planet Earth on Blu-Ray, it is awsome!

http://www.amazon.com/Planet-Earth-Complete-BBC-Blu-ray/dp/B000MRAAJM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1208812500&sr=1-2
If it looks as nice as in HD DVD, then it is AWESOME indeed.

The only thing I miss is the Sigourney Weaver narrator, but Sir David Attenborough came out OK, and I like him too.

[Jíbaro]

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/37065/113/

[Polkfan]

[/INDENT]For example, King Kong in HD DVD is out of this world.


If only the movie didn't suck. :))

[Jíbaro]

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/04/23/march_hd_dvd_blu_ray_sales/

[Jíbaro]

http://www.themanroom.com/news/Reds_Review_HD_DVD/2497

http://www.themanroom.com/news/16_Blocks_Review_HD_DVD/2466

[ogibillm]

I just bought BBC's Planet Earth on Blu-Ray, it is awsome!

http://www.amazon.com/Planet-Earth-Complete-BBC-Blu-ray/dp/B000MRAAJM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1208812500&sr=1-2

i own it too, if you have a blu ray player and an hd set, go out and pick this one up.

[Jíbaro]

http://storage.itworld.com/4648/blu-ray-versus-dvd-dr-080424/page_1.html

[Jíbaro]

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g61RdIeGOIc6yBHUXuHJ7vtaEm2gD90CEK4O3

[Jíbaro]

http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/2008/05/01/blu-ray-sales-have-dropped-massively-since-sony-killed-hd-dvd/

[ogibillm]

it just kills you that you own a dead format, doesn't it jib?

[Jíbaro]

it just kills you that you own a dead format, doesn't it jib?
Do you enjoy your Blu-ray, and how many BD movies have you seen?
I'm still watching the more than 400 HD DVD titles available, and I'm not even half way there http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/cool/cool0003.gif.

[ogibillm]

Do you enjoy your Blu-ray, and how many BD movies have you seen?
I'm still watching the more than 400 HD DVD titles available, and I'm not even half way there http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/cool/cool0003.gif.


i do enjoy my blu-ray, i don't primarily use it as a video player since it's a PS3, but blu-ray movies are amazing - as i'm sure hd-dvd movies are.

beta tapes were pretty awesome for their time too. and laserdiscs have great picture quality.

[Gray]

Actually, you'll be able to get a digital/analog converter box to keep using your old TV. Cost should be $50-$100. If you have satellite TV, you're already ready doing this through its receiver. Cable might do this, too, somewhere in their broadcast chain, but I don't know.

BTW, your PC/Mac screen is HD - unless you have a REALLY old one!

Go online and get the two coupons you are allowed.

[george kaplan]

I have a 42 inch ENHANCED Definition TV that I found when I was fishing in 2006 - seriously, it was sitting there covered by a tarp.

Anyway, it's been fine so far, but the wife and I plan to upgrad to High Def sometime this year. As for HDDVD vs BlueRay, I'd like to see the market settle out before committing to a format. Beta/VHS anyone?

You should have seen the t.v. that got away.... :)

[ValricoKate]

All the enhancement I need:

http://www.dse.co.nz/isroot/dse/images/products/L4655.JPG

(I hear that in about a year, I'm screwed.)

http://dtvfacts.com/converter-box-coupons/

above is a coupon for digital converter box (tiime is running out to apply)

either that or hit the pawn shop ... probably could pick up hdtv from someone who over financed their house.

[grapabeaux]

My coupon is in the mail. I punted on getting cable again (as if I need Bravo network to function in my life), so I guess this is my best option.

I'll be sure to give a report on how these devices work out. :-)

[Jíbaro]

http://www.efluxmedia.com/news_Report_Blu_ray_Too_Expensive_The_Old_HD_DVD_W orks_Just_Fine_17130.html

[Jíbaro]

http://www.itp.net/news/518346-blu-ray-xbox-360-consoles-by-year-end

[sironin]

http://www.itp.net/news/518346-blu-ray-xbox-360-consoles-by-year-end

That'd actually be a pretty good way to sell more xbox's. Given that the cost of players is still expensive and there are potential format updates on the horizon, a game console (backed by a powerful updating system) is a good way to go.

[Jíbaro]

That'd actually be a pretty good way to sell more xbox's. Given that the cost of players is still expensive and there are potential format updates on the horizon, a game console (backed by a powerful updating system) is a good way to go.
My kids like XBOX better than the PS3, so I can't wait for this XBOX-BD combo.

[sironin]

My kids like XBOX better than the PS3, so I can't wait for this XBOX-BD combo.

Well if it'll be out by years end, maybe they can expect it as a holiday present ;)

[Jíbaro]

The plot thickens:

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/05/06/microsoft_pegatron_bluray_denial/

[ISYairio]

No.

I don't even have cable. :neutral:

[ogibillm]

The plot thickens:

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/05/06/microsoft_pegatron_bluray_denial/

it doesn't make much sense to put a bd in an xbox. they can't use it for games and it would drive the price of the 360 up.

[Jíbaro]

it doesn't make much sense to put a bd in an xbox. they can't use it for games and it would drive the price of the 360 up.
Too bad, I was daydreaming of an XBOX-BD.

But the web can't presently deliver the bandwidth needed for HD games and video, so XBOX will need to deliver these images somehow.
Will Microsoft produce 30 GB memory sticks?

[ogibillm]

Too bad, I was daydreaming of an XBOX-BD.

But the web can't presently deliver the bandwidth needed for HD games and video, so XBOX will need to deliver these images somehow.
Will Microsoft produce 30 GB memory sticks?


it doesn't provide it on demand but you can get hd content through your internet connection, and i believe that MS sells downloadable HD movies through LIVE.

but really it doesn't make sense at this stage in the game for them to add BD. since it wouldn't be universal game publishers couldn't use it in development. they'd be better off waiting for the next gen.

[Jíbaro]

it doesn't provide it on demand but you can get hd content through your internet connection, and i believe that MS sells downloadable HD movies through LIVE.

but really it doesn't make sense at this stage in the game for them to add BD. since it wouldn't be universal game publishers couldn't use it in development. they'd be better off waiting for the next gen.
I thought BD was that nexgen.
How can anyone cram all the HD imagery in less than 10 to 30 GB?

[ogibillm]

I thought BD was that nexgen.
How can anyone cram all the HD imagery in less than 10 to 30 GB?

bd is, i was talking the next gen of MS game consoles.
that's the thing - MS went with a dual layer DVD for their games this generation. Already there have been struggles to fit the games on one disc - GTA IV being one of the most notable examples.

but because the bd would not be a standard device on all 360s game developers must try to fit their games on a 9 gb dvd - or span multiple discs.

so what you would have is a more expensive 360 with bd movie watching the only added capability.

maybe it'll happen, but i doubt it.

[sironin]

bd is, i was talking the next gen of MS game consoles.
that's the thing - MS went with a dual layer DVD for their games this generation. Already there have been struggles to fit the games on one disc - GTA IV being one of the most notable examples.

but because the bd would not be a standard device on all 360s game developers must try to fit their games on a 9 gb dvd - or span multiple discs.

so what you would have is a more expensive 360 with bd movie watching the only added capability.

maybe it'll happen, but i doubt it.

PC Developers deal with this all the time. It's solved by simply listing an additional requirement on the box. Microsoft could both produce new consoles with BD functionality as well as offering an add-on drive.

Part of the problem is the pricepoint. The cheapest bd-rom drive I could find online is $130. If Microsoft largely ate the profit margin, they could probably put these accessory drives out for around $60-$100. They've repeatedly said they won't do this sort of thing, so I'm inclined to think it'll just have to wait until the next gen MS console.

[ogibillm]

PC Developers deal with this all the time. It's solved by simply listing an additional requirement on the box. Microsoft could both produce new consoles with BD functionality as well as offering an add-on drive.

Part of the problem is the pricepoint. The cheapest bd-rom drive I could find online is $130. If Microsoft largely ate the profit margin, they could probably put these accessory drives out for around $60-$100. They've repeatedly said they won't do this sort of thing, so I'm inclined to think it'll just have to wait until the next gen MS console.

that's the difference between pc and console games - with console games you put the disc in and it works. no worries about minimum system requirements or any of that.

[Jíbaro]

http://www.tvpredictions.com/2008/05/samsung-blu-rayhd-dvd-player-489.html

[PeterGriffin]

I'm not sure who Jibaro is trying to convince that he bought into a dead end, soon to be obsolete platform, himself or a bunch of people he will never meet and would find it mildly humorous that once again, Jibaro is on the wrong side of history.

Probably some of both.

[bioya1]

I'm not sure who Jibaro is trying to convince that he bought into a dead end, soon to be obsolete platform, himself or a bunch of people he will never meet and would find it mildly humorous that once again, Jibaro is on the wrong side of history.

Probably some of both.

Ouch.

FTR, I still have a nice Pioneer Elite Laser Disc Player. Unfortunately, I only have 10 or so laser discs but what the heck.

[CogitoErgoSum]

I'm not sure who Jibaro is trying to convince that he bought into a dead end, soon to be obsolete platform, himself or a bunch of people he will never meet and would find it mildly humorous that once again, Jibaro is on the wrong side of history.

Probably some of both.

Be kind to poor old Jib,

Between his HD-DVD, Bettamax and 8-track, I'm sure he can find plenty of movies and music at the local flee markets.

[Jíbaro]

Be kind to poor old Jib,

Between his HD-DVD, Bettamax and 8-track, I'm sure he can find plenty of movies and music at the local flee markets.
Don't worry I can take it.
He just wants to vent his Partisan frustrations, which is totally understandable.

[Jíbaro]

HD DVD Requiem:http://www.whatpc.co.uk/personal-computer-world/comment/2216238/inside-information-aftermath

[tha malcontent™]

Wife and Child and I were @ Best Buy today, and it was Packed...

We don't Own one of them there Fancy TV Sets with the Wide Screen, but Apparently Best Buy was not having a Hard Time Selling them...

From Half a Grand to 10 Grand...

That Side of the Store was Biz-E...

Reminds me of the Soup Lines that had Grand Theft Auto Recently...

Relative Poverty is Great, ain't it!

:)

peace...

[Jíbaro]

The SAGA continues:http://blocksandfiles.com/article/5139

[Jíbaro]

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/05/14/lg-blu-ray-burner-reviewed

[gwhughes]

Blu-ray won, buy a PS3 and get a cool game system to boot.

[chip]

I'm not sure who Jibaro is trying to convince that he bought into a dead end, soon to be obsolete platform, himself or a bunch of people he will never meet and would find it mildly humorous that once again, Jibaro is on the wrong side of history.

Probably some of both.

LOL

[Jíbaro]

http://www.informationweek.com/news/personal_tech/bluray/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=207800191 http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/cool/cool0003.gif

[Jíbaro]

http://www.hd-report.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/roku_set-top_netflix-150x150.jpg (http://www.hd-report.com/2008/05/27/netflix-set-top-box-blu-rays-biggest-competitor/)

http://www.hd-report.com/2008/05/27/netflix-set-top-box-blu-rays-biggest-competitor/

[Jíbaro]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080601/ap_on_hi_te/blu_ray_sales

[Jíbaro]

http://www.betanews.com/article/Toshiba_looking_to_get_highdef_out_of_standard_DVD s/1212523865

[Jíbaro]

http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/toshiba-new-bd-attack-vector?date=041220080604

[Jíbaro]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/06/08/BUPF11383J.DTL

[Jíbaro]

And the lastest Rumor:http://www.laptoplogic.com/news/detail.php?id=5127

[Super Solid]

I'm I don't have an HDTV yet. Poorness is not the reason. I think.

[Jíbaro]

I'm I don't have an HDTV yet. Poorness is not the reason. I think.
Age?

[Jíbaro]

http://www.digitimes.com/systems/a20080503PD200.html (http://www.digitimes.com/systems/a20080503PD200.html)

[Jíbaro]

http://www.betanews.com/article/WalMart_endeavors_to_lure_customers_to_Bluray/1212695288

[Jíbaro]

http://gizmodo.com/5013346/state-of-the-infinite-format-war-get-ready-for-five-long-years-of-set+top-battle-royale

[Jíbaro]

http://www.smh.com.au/news/articles/tangled-up-in-blu/2008/06/25/1214073261073.html

[Jíbaro]

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/14677.cfm

[spartan]

Expensive television sets are like boats; it's best to have a friend who has it rather than having it yourself. My buddy's set is friggin' amazing. I'd rather spend my money on cheap women though and when the playoffs come, I'll just go to his house. With my loose woman.

[Jíbaro]

Expensive television sets are like boats; it's best to have a friend who has it rather than having it yourself. My buddy's set is friggin' amazing. I'd rather spend my money on cheap women though and when the playoffs come, I'll just go to his house. With my loose woman.
Cheap women can turn out to be a lot more expensive than a $4000 HDTV...

http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/scared/scared0008.gif

[Jíbaro]

For guys who bought a Blu Ray console recently, the $400+ investment may have been in vain with a new 400GB HD disk unveiled by Pioneer:
http://www.neoseeker.com/news/8369-400gb-blu-ray-/ (http://www.neoseeker.com/news/8369-400gb-blu-ray-/)
The new format, which has 16 layers of data per disk, makes obsolete the current crop of Sony Blu Ray format boxes.

[Jíbaro]

Why does the PS3 get so hot during operation, compared to the Toshiba A3?

[Jíbaro]

http://marketnewsblog.blogspot.com/2008/07/retailers-blowing-out-or-hiking-up.html

[Jíbaro]

http://www.pcauthority.com.au/Feature/116227,bluray-buyers-guide.aspx

[Jíbaro]

http://www.thehdroom.com/images/news/3061.jpg

http://www.thehdroom.com/news/Romancing_The_Stone_and_Jewel_of_the_Nile_Coming_t o_Blu-ray_/3061

[Jíbaro]

Why do Blu-ray disks cost twice as much as regular DVDs, and Blu-ray players cost 4 times as much?

[Jíbaro]

http://www.tvpredictions.com/2008/07/blu-ray-review-10000-bc.html

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/14780.cfm

[Jíbaro]

http://www.microsoft.com/Presspass/press/2008/jul08/07-14InstantStreamPR.mspx

[Jíbaro]

http://www.switched.com/2008/07/15/xbox-360-getting-more-games-more-hd-and-netflix/

[Jíbaro]

http://www.e-gear.com/story/story.bsp?sid=112978&var=story

[Jíbaro]

http://www.dbtechno.com/gaming/2008/07/17/is-netflix-enough-to-help-xbox-360-battle-ps3-with-blu-ray/

[Jíbaro]

http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/industries/media/dish-network-expands-local-high-definition-markets/-1259506446

[Jíbaro]

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jul2008/tc20080720_217679.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index _technology

[Jíbaro]

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssConsumerGoodsAndRetailNews/idUSN2543889620080725

[msny]

Do you own a High Definition Media Device?


With our stimulus money we bought a 46" Samsung HDTV
and a Blu-Ray player back in late May. Hooked in 5 chanel
Surround sound stero.

There is nothing like TV in HD, i would not go back now
for anything.

[Jíbaro]

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080729-chinese-hd-format-its-blue-but-not-blu-ray.html

[Jíbaro]

http://www.crn.com/digital-home/209901134

[Jíbaro]

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2008/07/31/netflix-goes-from-red-mailers-to-blu-ray.aspx

[Jíbaro]

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/31/true-blu-ray-quality-via-satellite-or-not/

[Jíbaro]

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=206333

http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/08/04/blu-ray-not-doing-too-well-excpet-for-ps3/

[Lenny Stern]

I've never seen hi-def tv. My wife who does high-end window treatments here in Connecticut tells me people have one in each room. Oh well, I'm still driving a 1996 Toyota Rav 4 with 200,000 miles on it.

[Jíbaro]

I've never seen hi-def tv. My wife who does high-end window treatments here in Connecticut tells me people have one in each room. Oh well, I'm still driving a 1996 Toyota Rav 4 with 200,000 miles on it.
SAMS CLUB has on display a set of some 20 different HDTVs hooked up to an HD signal for you to take a look.
HDTV looks awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!
For example, King Kong in HD (be it Blu-ray, or HD-DVD) looks almost 3D, without the need to use funny glasses. But look at it on a 50 inch if you want to see the real deal.

BTW, I saw an original Star Trek episode in HD-DVD and it is really nice; they even enhanced the spaceship shots with CG, like Lucas did with the original Star Wars movies.

The issue of having an HDTV though is that you have to have an HD source, be it Cable, DirecTV or DishNetwork, and/or a HD disc source, like Blu-ray, or the now obsolete HD-DVD. Al this is about a $2,000 investment; same as buying a PC some six years ago.

[Jíbaro]

http://www.dvdtown.com/news/band-of-brothers-on-blu-ray/5798

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/news/html/breaking_article.cfm?article_id=13291

http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/200832/1652/Study-Blu-ray-failing-to-find-consumer-traction

http://www.techradar.com/blogs/article/get-dozens-of-cheap-hd-dvd-movies-online-446707

[Jíbaro]

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ie2yn10ylPIS-8str7ea4dsPejogD92KF9RG1

[Jíbaro]

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/polar-express-presented-3-d-blu-raytm/story.aspx?guid=%7BB250E173-4B1D-4CAE-A173-EB27A6B54E55%7D&dist=hppr

[Jíbaro]

http://www.informationweek.com/news/personal_tech/bluray/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=210101571

[Jíbaro]

http://www.connectedinternet.co.uk/2008/08/21/impressions-of-a-new-playstation-3-owner/

http://www.informationweek.com/news/personal_tech/bluray/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=210101571

[Jíbaro]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/storage/display/20080826130940_Toshiba_s_Refusal_to_Sell_HD_DVD_Pa tents_Indicates_Readiness_to_Fight_Blu_Ray_in_Chin a.html

[Jíbaro]

http://news.digitaltrends.com/talk-back/259/toshiba-xde-dvd-player-better-than-blu-ray

[Jíbaro]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-10042820-17.html

[Jíbaro]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-10052157-17.html

[Jíbaro]

http://www.avreview.co.uk/news/article/mps/uan/2342

[Jíbaro]

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081008-netflix-imposes-1-per-month-blu-ray-surcharge-for-hd-lovers.html

[Jíbaro]

http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/007935.html

[Jíbaro]

http://denver.yourhub.com/Golden/Blogs/Arts-Entertainment/Film/Blog~536139.aspx

[Jíbaro]

http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/20081023/ap_on_hi_te/samsung_netflix

[Jíbaro]

http://www.dmwmedia.com/news/2008/10/23/analysis:-bad-omen-blu-ray

[Jíbaro]

http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=365

[AchillesRising]

I have a tv tuner card in my computer to watch basic cable.

[Jacksmyname]

Main system:
Sony 46XBR4 46"
Panasonic Blu Ray player
Toshiba HD-DVD player
Yamaha RX-V3800 receiver 140watt/channel driving the center channel and side and rear surround speakers
Emotiva XPA-2 250watt/channel driving the left/right main speakers
Onkyo CD player
Denon universal disc player for multi-channel cd's
Energy RC-70 left/right main speakers
Energy RC-LCR center channel speaker
Mirage Omnican 6 in-ceiling speakers for side and rear surrounds
Mirage S10 and S12 subwoofers
And a few other goodies (headphones, surge protector/power center, sub EQ).

[Jíbaro]

http://www.smarthouse.com.au/HD/Blu_ray/C8E5J5Q8

http://www.dmwmedia.com/news/2008/10/23/analysis:-bad-omen-blu-ray

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10078711-93.html

[DarkRanger99]

I got a High Def TV, but the only HD device is my cable box.

[radiofreebcj]

Nah...there's no standard yet, and I don't need Fox in HD yet. If I want to see something special, I just rent a screen and a player.

That reminds me...I want to rent a screen for Wii Music!

[Jíbaro]

http://homemediamagazine.com/high-def/-hd-3-myths-dispelled-about-blu-ray-disc-13879

[Jíbaro]

For Black Friday:http://news.punchjump.com/article.php?id=7062

[Jíbaro]

http://www.hollywoodchicago.com/news/5965/blu-ray-review-original-day-the-earth-stood-still-stands-test-of-time

[hap]

+1

I may be wrong, but I think that if you don't pay it off in the two years, your interest will be for the entire original purchase price.