How can people be so cruel - GRAPHIC!!

[DLaw911]

This is a very graphic story with equally graphic photos. It's not for everyone.
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Five year old Iraqi boy doused with gasoline and set on fire. He survives but is badly scarred.


BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Five-year-old Youssif is scarred for life, his once beautiful smile turned into a grotesquely disfigured face -- the face of a horrifying act by masked men. They grabbed him on a January day outside his central Baghdad home, doused him with gas and set him ablaze.

It's an act incomprehensibly savage, even by Iraq's standards today. No one has been arrested and the motive remains unknown.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/08/22/iraq.boy/index.html?eref=rss_topstories#cnnSTCPhoto

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/08/22/iraq.boy/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

[ImNewHere]

What could a 5-year old ever do to have something like that happen?

[DLaw911]

What could a 5-year old ever do to have something like that happen?This world is full of a lot of sick people.

[ImNewHere]

I looked at the pic and read the article. It's so schocking I can't even get angry reading that.

[DLaw911]

I looked at the pic and read the article. It's so schocking I can't even get angry reading that.I read it and was left feeling very sad. I wish the clock could be turned back on this little boy. I cannot even call him a causualty of war since no motive has been shown. Maybe it had something to do with his father's job.

I'd like to see him brought to the US for compassionate plastic surgery to give him a fighting chance. How can one go through life when no one wants to look at you, to be friends with you. He's only 5 but he was a happy little boy and now look at him. What happened to him is too disgusting to imagine.

[ImNewHere]

Was reading the comments at the bottom of the article. Looks like CNN is going to try to do something like that to help him out.

[JewishMamaof2]

That's just terrible. Very sad.

[notluzn]

Should have stayed and fought with the terrorist and against the US if he didnt want that to happen. Right DLAW? Remember the soldiers family that got murdered because the soldier went to war? You said it.

[jeepers]

There is a special place in hell for the men that did this. Only someone utterly and completely evil could do that to another human being, let alone an innocent child.

As a mother, words don't describe how this makes me feel.

[notluzn]

There is a special place in hell for the men that did this. Only someone utterly and completely evil could do that to another human being, let alone an innocent child.

As a mother, words don't describe how this makes me feel.
Religion of Peace

[jeepers]

Pieces.

[Dual867PowerMac]

I think I'm going to be ill. :cry:

If there is a hell, I hope the bastard who did it fries. :evil:

[JFKLiberal]

Yeah, and this is the kind of people that we should leave Iraq to?

Bush screwed up and failed to allow the Iraqi government to form a leadership to agree to end the war.

He compounds that error by giving a virtually unending agreement to defend Iraq from it's terrorist forces. Surely he realizes that the longer we stay there, the more legitimacy we give the terrorists in the eyes of many Iraqis, right?

This war is a quagmire, but it needs to be given the best effort we can give till it doesnt need our help which should be soon.

[notluzn]

Yeah, and this is the kind of people that we should leave Iraq to?

Bush screwed up and failed to allow the Iraqi government to form a leadership to agree to end the war.

He compounds that error by giving a virtually unending agreement to defend Iraq from it's terrorist forces. Surely he realizes that the longer we stay there, the more legitimacy we give the terrorists in the eyes of many Iraqis, right?

This war is a quagmire, but it needs to be given the best effort we can give till it doesnt need our help which should be soon.
omg you are one wack job

[JFKLiberal]

omg you are one wack job

Wow, excellent rebuttal.

What is left to be said?

Either agree to worship at W's alter or be slammed as a wack job, lol.

[Larry, Curly & Mohamed]

This is a very graphic story with equally graphic photos. It's not for everyone.
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Five year old Iraqi boy doused with gasoline and set on fire. He survives but is badly scarred.



http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/08/22/iraq.boy/index.html?eref=rss_topstories#cnnSTCPhoto

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/08/22/iraq.boy/index.html?eref=rss_topstories


You can more then likely thank Al Qaeda. IF the family was helping Iraqi and American forces, which is more then likely the case, this is sent as a warning to the family. They do this all the time. They have no regards for anyone.

[AutoRacer55]

5 years old?

Being 5 is about making the small transition from preschool to kindergarden, playing with tinker toys, and daytime naps, not about being badly burned by scum of the earth.

[JFKLiberal]

You can more then likely thank Al Qaeda. IF the family was helping Iraqi and American forces, which is more then likely the case, this is sent as a warning to the family. They do this all the time. They have no regards for anyone.

But yet many want to abandon Iraq to folks like al Qaeda.

We cant afford to stay indefinately and leaving Iraq to the terrorists is just too inhumane.

so methinks we will abandon it and tacitly agree to let Iran take it into its own protective sphere.

Maliki has already been to Iran to get a commitment from Ahmadinejad to defend Iraq and he did so.

[Larry, Curly & Mohamed]

But yet many want to abandon Iraq to folks like al Qaeda.

We cant afford to stay indefinately and leaving Iraq to the terrorists is just too inhumane.

so methinks we will abandon it and tacitly agree to let Iran take it into its own protective sphere.

Maliki has already been to Iran to get a commitment from Ahmadinejad to defend Iraq and he did so.
Well good for you.

I would rather talk about how to get this boy the help he needs in this thread.

[Rhonda]

5 years old?

Being 5 is about making the small transition from preschool to kindergarden, playing with tinker toys, and daytime naps, not about being badly burned by scum of the earth.

Yes worse than scum they are bottom feeders of hell...those kind who do such things to children and others...I want to see in hell...just for a moment Lord... PLEASE!!!

[Rhonda]

You can more then likely thank Al Qaeda. IF the family was helping Iraqi and American forces, which is more then likely the case, this is sent as a warning to the family. They do this all the time. They have no regards for anyone.

This is a truth people... a truth!

[Larry, Curly & Mohamed]

This is a very graphic story with equally graphic photos. It's not for everyone.
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Five year old Iraqi boy doused with gasoline and set on fire. He survives but is badly scarred.



http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/08/22/iraq.boy/index.html?eref=rss_topstories#cnnSTCPhoto

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/08/22/iraq.boy/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

DLaw - I'm not sure where you stand on the entire war or how you view certain stories as to who published them - but maybe this one might help.

Al Qaeda in Egypt Leader Calls for Attacks On Women and Children
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/06/al-qaeda-in-egy.html



There is an EXCELLENT freelance journalist by the name of Michael Yon who is embedded with the Iraqi forces.

Michael Yon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Yon

Here is the link to his site.


VERY UPSETTING AND GRAPHIC story & Photos
http://michaelyon-online.com/wp/bless-the-beasts-and-children.htm
The article bless-the-beasts-and-children is where I linked you to. Its an archive from earlier this summer.

[Dragon1963]

Those who did this to the boy are the human equivalent to rabid animals and should be put down in what ever manner would be best to make others who would follow in their footsteps turn away from the same path.

Death by torture would be my first choice and make it as long drawn out as possible..

[gdoane]

Not much the enemy does can shock me anymore. The cruelty and viciousness of Al Qaeda is legendary, after all, but to commit an act of cowardice and cruelty like waylaying a 5-year-old boy... that's shameless.

I think it works to defeat their purposes, which are to use terrorism and take the willingness to fight out of the enemy but doing that to a five-year-old boy doesn't meet that goal. Now I want their asses kicked more than ever.

What they did was evil. Pure evil. I don't see how they justify that in their religion or their "jihad" and I don't even care to.

Those who say we shouldn't be fighting against this evil are totally wrong.

[Dragon1963]

Not much the enemy does can shock me anymore. The cruelty and viciousness of Al Qaeda is legendary, after all, but to commit an act of cowardice and cruelty like waylaying a 5-year-old boy... that's shameless.

I think it works to defeat their purposes, which are to use terrorism and take the willingness to fight out of the enemy but doing that to a five-year-old boy doesn't meet that goal. Now I want their asses kicked more than ever.

What they did was evil. Pure evil. I don't see how they justify that in their religion or their "jihad" and I don't even care to.

Those who say we shouldn't be fighting against this evil are totally wrong.


Those who are against fighting evil have no concept of it and easily condemn those who fight evil as the evil ones.

[ScottFree]

But yet many want to abandon Iraq to folks like al Qaeda.

We cant afford to stay indefinately and leaving Iraq to the terrorists is just too inhumane.

so methinks we will abandon it and tacitly agree to let Iran take it into its own protective sphere.

Maliki has already been to Iran to get a commitment from Ahmadinejad to defend Iraq and he did so.


So many posts. So little intelligence.

[thr3]

Its BUshs fault.

[waynevan]

This is a very graphic story with equally graphic photos. It's not for everyone.
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Five year old Iraqi boy doused with gasoline and set on fire. He survives but is badly scarred.



http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/08/22/iraq.boy/index.html?eref=rss_topstories#cnnSTCPhoto

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/08/22/iraq.boy/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

Your right, its not for everybody. There ain't no friggin way I'm looking at any of those pictures. Not saying you shouldn't have started the thread, but, no thanks.

[ScottFree]

What this family needs is a man like John Creasy. He would find these thugs and make them all pay. He makes Jack Bauer look like a choir boy.

Man On Fire
http://imdb.com/title/tt0328107/

[Hadassah]

I read it and was left feeling very sad. I wish the clock could be turned back on this little boy. I cannot even call him a causualty of war since no motive has been shown. Maybe it had something to do with his father's job.

I'd like to see him brought to the US for compassionate plastic surgery to give him a fighting chance. How can one go through life when no one wants to look at you, to be friends with you. He's only 5 but he was a happy little boy and now look at him. What happened to him is too disgusting to imagine.


My heart broke when I saw those pictures. I can't even be angry at the evil beasts who did this right now. I want to get this boy some help.

[notluzn]

Wow, excellent rebuttal.

What is left to be said?

Either agree to worship at W's alter or be slammed as a wack job, lol. Sorry Pond Scum but I don't worship Bush. I don't like him. So how about you stick to playing outside in the pond.

[thr3]

My heart broke when I saw those pictures. I can't even be angry at the evil beasts who did this right now. I want to get this boy some help.

So you have seen this person so it makes you wanna help him but what about the rest of the world, which you do not see that is dieing?

[Andrew_980]

This kind of thing is commonplace in much of africa that is one unending political coup/civil war/tribal violence that leave a sickening number maimed and disfigured.

[bodecea]

Religion of Peace


That guy in CA who burned his own son because of a custody dispute...was he a member of the same religion? Or...or...or...is THAT different?

[thr3]

That guy in CA who burned his own son because of a custody dispute...was he a member of the same religion? Or...or...or...is THAT different?

The religion of peace strikes again but you fail to condem it. Why is that?

[Seedy]

That guy in CA who burned his own son because of a custody dispute...was he a member of the same religion? Or...or...or...is THAT different?

He and those in Iraq who did this to that poor boy are cut from the same mold. The only difference is that the Iraqi perps use their religion as justification for such actions, while the freak in CA used his hatred for his wife as justication.

I used to post "religion of peace" in threads like this, but I stopped when I realized the true difference between religious people and those who perverse their religion.

[Hadassah]

So you have seen this person so it makes you wanna help him but what about the rest of the world, which you do not see that is dieing?


Who says I don't want to help them?

[DLaw911]

DLaw - I'm not sure where you stand on the entire war.....I have always been totally opposed to US involvement in Iraq, just as I was with US action in the Gulf War.

Both actions have been totally about oil. Bush does not care about Iraqis and, in particular, persons of Islamic faith. Everything we have done in Iraq was set up by early US intervention. We befriended Saddam, gave him chemical weapons, then told him we would not interfere if he attacked Kuwait for its border incursions and oil thefts from Iraq.

Then we broke our word and led a coalition to expel Saddam, and his two bit army, from Kuwait.

Then, despite knowing better, we launched a full blown invasion and occupation of Iraq, guaranteed to put us in the middle of a destabalized country. We went there for nothing. We took down a dictator who, for better or worse, had kept terrorists out and kept his country at relative peace.

[HSMaxim]

That guy in CA who burned his own son because of a custody dispute...was he a member of the same religion? Or...or...or...is THAT different?
One guy in CA is wayyyyyy different from thousands around the globe doing these horrible things under the guise of religion and you know it.

Sickos are among us, yes, but when there are those that use religion, any religion, to promote violence against women and children, how can you even come up with a comment like that one above?

Just wondering, was that guy in CA attending meetings where someone was telling him that God would look the other way and even reward him for burning his son? If he was, those sick ****s need the chair or a gallows.

Sorry, history has shown that numerous religions over the ages had their dark and twisted times, but there is only one mainstream religion that has thousands of "confused" followers murdering and disfiguring women and children in the name of their God today, and even though some deny it and even try to ignore it, it is happening as the links in the OP prove.




No child should have that happen to them, anywhere. Even though I do not pray, I think I can make an exception this time.

[HSMaxim]

We took down a dictator who, for better or worse, had kept terrorists out and kept his country at relative peace.
Are the reports and photographs from Iraqis claiming the rape of young girls to force confessions from parents, rooms with acid dripping from ceilings, mass graves and the like all figments of Iraqi imagination or just pure US propaganda?

The terrorists are lowly scum, but saying that this kind of stuff did not go on in Iraq before we got there is just wrong on so many levels.

[Larry, Curly & Mohamed]

Here is another account of more AQ bs - This one is from TODAY

Women, children taken in fierce Iraq battle
http://ca.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2007-08-23T145734Z_01_YAT713362_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-IRAQ-COL.XML&archived=False

[Larry, Curly & Mohamed]

Are the reports and photographs from Iraqis claiming the rape of young girls to force confessions from parents, rooms with acid dripping from ceilings, mass graves and the like all figments of Iraqi imagination or just pure US propaganda?

The terrorists are lowly scum, but saying that this kind of stuff did not go on in Iraq before we got there is just wrong on so many levels.

Amen!

Be it you feel the war is unjust or not - were there now. We can stop the terrorist from continuing the atrocities that they do.

[RickRhetoric]

There you go again! Infidels criticizing the culture of another. What is taboo in one's culture may be perfectly acceptable to those of another culture, lifestyles and values. Learn to respect, tolerate and accommodate the culture of all others.

[thr3]

SOme cultural behaviours are not compatable with Western values, hence they can not be accepted.

[stoked]

Who would do that to anyone let alone a beautiful child.

[DLaw911]

Amen!

Be it you feel the war is unjust or not - were there now. We can stop the terrorist from continuing the atrocities that they do.We don't know if this was the act of terrorists. And it does not matter. My point is about people in general and how cruel some people can be.

There are a rash of hydrocloric acid attacks in India on young girls? I found some articles but they are so utterly graphic I cannot link to them. And they are being carried out not by terrorists, but by civilian men who are rarely prosecuted.

[NavyBlue]

We don't know if this was the act of terrorists. And it does not matter. My point is about people in general and how cruel some people can be.

There are a rash of hydrocloric acid attacks in India on young girls? I found some articles but they are so utterly graphic I cannot link to them. And they are being carried out not by terrorists, but by civilian men who are rarely prosecuted.

Well, according to Sean in yesterday's show some people are "missing a chip" in their head and they don't quite have a grasp on reality like the rest of us. I posted something yesterday on the topic and was threatened and told to watch what I say about the host of the show. The post pretty much challenged whether or not evil existed as an entity set out to hinder and destroy mankind or a natural invention of the developed human mind to categorize events that harm us and those who are emotionally close; an instinct for survival.

[Mixylplix]

There is a special place in hell for the men that did this. Only someone utterly and completely evil could do that to another human being, let alone an innocent child.

As a mother, words don't describe how this makes me feel.

Seems we forget that torturing children was SOP for Sadam. Tearing our childrens eyes in front of their parents was a standard practice of that bastard. He enjoyes the rewards of his actions. A nice dark miserable place in Hell has been set aside for him...

But why get upset by this? Sadam did it to hundreds, maybe thousands. We were told it was wrong to pull him out of power.

People... Can't live with them. Can't kill all of them.

[thr3]

We don't know if this was the act of terrorists. And it does not matter. My point is about people in general and how cruel some people can be.

There are a rash of hydrocloric acid attacks in India on young girls? I found some articles but they are so utterly graphic I cannot link to them. And they are being carried out not by terrorists, but by civilian men who are rarely prosecuted.

Man is an inherently wretched beast.

We know that.

[JFKLiberal]

Well good for you.

I would rather talk about how to get this boy the help he needs in this thread.

Posting here is going to help that kid? How's that?

I would far more prefer to avoid as many further burnings of other kids in the future by focusing on eleminating al Qaeda and that includes its grass roots support.

Hows that to be done?

By discussing it with other people, thats how.

I feel bad for the kid but its out of my hands except for prayer.

[dittoheadAZ]

Who would do that to anyone let alone a beautiful child.

Who would cut the head off a news reporter? Who would torture and execute women for not wearing their burkas? Who would fly planes into buildings and kill over 3000 people?

The answer to your question... is the answer to mine.

[Andrew_980]

This crap happens in Africa every day, none of these folks care But if a MUSLIM is responsible by god they have to be stopped!:rolleyes:

[Gabby]

This crap happens in Africa every day, none of these folks care But if a MUSLIM is responsible by god they have to be stopped!:rolleyes:

Generally it does not get reported so we don't know its going on. Of course everyone here would be just as upset no matter the reason it was done.

Good grief.

[Gabby]

There you go again! Infidels criticizing the culture of another. What is taboo in one's culture may be perfectly acceptable to those of another culture, lifestyles and values. Learn to respect, tolerate and accommodate the culture of all others.

Surely are you being sarcastic here? I really do hope you don't mean this.

[DLaw911]

Youssif is now HERE in Los Angeles for surgery and treatments expected to last at least 9 months. He has a lot of pain in store for him. But he is in excellent hands at the Grossman Burn Center.

[jetfire612]

Who would do that to anyone let alone a beautiful child.

A radical muslim......no regard for life....taught from an early age. Do anything for the cause.

[Hadassah]

Youssif is now HERE in Los Angeles for surgery and treatments expected to last at least 9 months. He has a lot of pain in store for him. But he is in excellent hands at the Grossman Burn Center.

I am so glad he's finally getting treatment. Who is with him?

[notluzn]

Youssif is now HERE in Los Angeles for surgery and treatments expected to last at least 9 months. He has a lot of pain in store for him. But he is in excellent hands at the Grossman Burn Center. Oh Boy

[DLaw911]

I am so glad he's finally getting treatment. Who is with him?The State Dept arranged for his entire family to come and accompany him. http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/12/youssif.arrives/

I cannot imagine him here, alone, without his family during this intense period of time.

[dittoheadAZ]

This is a very graphic story with equally graphic photos. It's not for everyone.
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Five year old Iraqi boy doused with gasoline and set on fire. He survives but is badly scarred.



http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/08/22/iraq.boy/index.html?eref=rss_topstories#cnnSTCPhoto

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/08/22/iraq.boy/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

Make up your mind. In a different thread, you said that we are destroying that country.

If that's what normally happens, then it NEEDS to be destroyed.

So which way do you want it?

[DLaw911]

Here is another update. This really brought tears to my eyes.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/02/26/youssif.update/index.html#cnnSTCText

[sgtmac_46]

Not much to say about that....:(

Any man who would think it's a find idea to douse a 5 year old child in gasoline and set him on fire deserves to have his GUTS BOILED OUT OF HIS BODY! :evil:

And if it were MY 5 year old child, that man or men would have their guts boiled out of their bodies before they drew their last BREATH! :evil:

[jetfire612]

Notice he had to come to the US for his surgeries? One thing to say for privatized medicine...it works!

[george kaplan]

This is a very graphic story with equally graphic photos. It's not for everyone.
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Five year old Iraqi boy doused with gasoline and set on fire. He survives but is badly scarred.



http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/08/22/iraq.boy/index.html?eref=rss_topstories#cnnSTCPhoto

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/08/22/iraq.boy/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

When has war not been hell on Earth?

[cypher]

War is about killing people and breaking things.

This is just another example of what comes along with war.
Sad, very sad, but true.

[bella-day]

I read it and was left feeling very sad. I wish the clock could be turned back on this little boy. I cannot even call him a causualty of war since no motive has been shown. Maybe it had something to do with his father's job.

I'd like to see him brought to the US for compassionate plastic surgery to give him a fighting chance. How can one go through life when no one wants to look at you, to be friends with you. He's only 5 but he was a happy little boy and now look at him. What happened to him is too disgusting to imagine.

The story and photos are heartbreaking.

I would imagine this child has some severe nerve damage on underneath all those scars.

There are some really sick people out there. Someone that could do something like this to a child is sick at heart. I just do not understand how in the world someone could do such a thing to anyone particularly a child.

[bella-day]

Here is another update. This really brought tears to my eyes.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/02/26/youssif.update/index.html#cnnSTCText

Tears of joy and hope. Those are the good kind.

Thank you for sharing the update. It warms my heart to know someone was able to step forward so this child could have a chance at a normal, happy life.

It sounds like he is making wonderful progress not only with the surgeries...it sounds like his spirit is healing also.

Don't ya love happy endings? It does sound like this one will end on a very up note.

[DLaw911]

Tears of joy and hope. Those are the good kind.

Thank you for sharing the update. It warms my heart to know someone was able to step forward so this child could have a chance at a normal, happy life.

It sounds like he is making wonderful progress not only with the surgeries...it sounds like his spirit is healing also.

Don't ya love happy endings? It does sound like this one will end on a very up note.Maybe he and his family will be able to stay in America if and until things stabilize in Iraq. Who knows --- by then he might be a grandfather.

[ImNewHere]

Maybe he and his family will be able to stay in America if and until things stabilize in Iraq. Who knows --- by then he might be a grandfather.

I know this isn't the AAW forum, but when I see that all I can think is how that war could have been over and the country secured in six months if Bush wanted it to be. If the military could have worked without one hand tied around its back, we wouldn't need to be having an Iraq war debate because there wouldn't be one.