Ron Paul: How Does He Feel About Chocolate Milk??

[Jedes]

Now tell us his stance on chocolate milk.

That is the subject of the thread. Try to focus.

Chocolate milk contains a good amount of sugar. It's like drinking soda- alright in moderation, and as long as you work out a bit, but it's certainly not healthy. hope this helps.

[bella-day]

Chocolate milk contains a good amount of sugar. It's like drinking soda- alright in moderation, and as long as you work out a bit, but it's certainly not healthy. hope this helps.

So this would be his official stance or your opinion of what you feel would be his official stance?

Hint:
We are not looking for anything short of his official stance on the issue.

[Jedes]

So this would be his official stance or your opinion of what you feel would be his official stance?

Hint:
We are not looking for anything short of his official stance on the issue.

Ah i see. Sorry about the misunderstanding. This is my "best guess". I'm basing it off reasonable data, but it's definatly NOT the official stance. I saw on a video that he opposes pancakes for similar health reasons, but is open to chocolate chip cookies IF one takes the time to burn off the excess sugar. :) hope that helps.

[Thanatos144]

Wonder if Ron Paul likes chocolate milk and then tells everyone he hates it to get votes?

[Jedes]

Wonder if Ron Paul likes chocolate milk and then tells everyone he hates it to get votes?

No, actually, it would be the equivelent of telling voters you "hate" ethenol ;). Try telling Davenport, IA, you hate the dairy industry ;)

[Thanatos144]

No, actually, it would be the equivelent of telling voters you "hate" ethenol ;). Try telling Davenport, IA, you hate the dairy industry ;)

I guess I was capearing it to Ron Paul's love of pork.

[Jedes]

I guess I was capearing it to Ron Paul's love of pork.

Ah i see. Ron Paul seems to take the position of lower (or no) income tax, and allowing people to opt out of social security. Not to mention getting rid of several federal departments. Hopefully more canidates take these positions as well. Especially with the impending doom of the social security system.

[Thanatos144]

Ah i see. Ron Paul seems to take the position of lower (or no) income tax, and allowing people to opt out of social security. Not to mention getting rid of several federal departments. Hopefully more canidates take these positions as well. Especially with the impending doom of the social security system.

And all that has to do with his hipocracy in pork how?

[Jedes]

And all that has to do with his hipocracy in pork how?


explain?

[Thanatos144]

explain?

He puts pork in to bills then votes against those same bills when he is sure it will pass. See? It is how he lies about hating pork.

[herefsihy]

He puts pork in to bills then votes against those same bills when he is sure it will pass. See? It is how he lies about hating pork.


It's like you pay your taxes, but then you lie when you complain about it. Hypocrite.



Kind Regards,

Mark

[Jedes]

He puts pork in to bills then votes against those same bills when he is sure it will pass. See? It is how he lies about hating pork.

I didn't know this. He's been in congress what- 20 years? off and on, perhaps. I admit, i don't know the details of his voting record as well as some of his long time supporters. But from what i've seen, his record is conversative on economics. For example, he's never voted to raise taxes or voted against a proposed income tax cut, correct?

As far as the pork bills, you're refering to proposing things for his district? But he votes against it? I guess that does seem a bit odd, but i'm not sure i'd say it's lying about hating taxes and federal goverment?

[Thanatos144]

It's like you pay your taxes, but then you lie when you complain about it. Hypocrite.



Kind Regards,

Mark

Oh please. I dont bitch about paying taxes just about how much they are. I never acted like I was above certain things while doing those same things in the dark. The only reason we know what Paul has been doing is cause now he has to declare his pork were as before he didnt have to. Your God had clay feet.

[Thanatos144]

I didn't know this. He's been in congress what- 20 years? off and on, perhaps. I admit, i don't know the details of his voting record as well as some of his long time supporters. But from what i've seen, his record is conversative on economics. For example, he's never voted to raise taxes or voted against a proposed income tax cut, correct?

As far as the pork bills, you're refering to proposing things for his district? But he votes against it? I guess that does seem a bit odd, but i'm not sure i'd say it's lying about hating taxes and federal goverment?

When has any politican not put pork in from his own district? Thats the whole reason for earmarks. Just most dont act above it while putting it in.

[bella-day]

He puts pork in to bills then votes against those same bills when he is sure it will pass. See? It is how he lies about hating pork.

He also is wasting the time of Congress with such behavior.

You do not waste time inserting earmarks that you plan to vote against.

I really do not get how anyone can look at that brand of behavior and see it as admirable.

But then...that could explain the lack of support in his home district.:whistle:

[Jedes]

When has any politican not put pork in from his own district? Thats the whole reason for earmarks. Just most dont act above it while putting it in.


Yeah, but as you said, any politician does. And perhaps he should come out more strongly campeigning against the entire earmark system.

But regardless, i'd assume most conversatives on this board acknowledge that Paul has a fairly consistent voting against tax increases and supporting income tax reductions.

[Conservative Okie]

He also is wasting the time of Congress with such behavior.

You do not waste time inserting earmarks that you plan to vote against.

I really do not get how anyone can look at that brand of behavior and see it as admirable.

But then...that could explain the lack of support in his home district.:whistle:

I don't either. I see it as worse than hypocrisy. It is deceitful. He is out there saying he is all against this pork (its unconstitutional blah blah blah) while he is slipping it in the back door intentionally. He is willingly being dishonest about it.

The same as he is for term limits and has been elected to 10? 11? terms ?

This is not a man that leads by example. He doesn't practice what he preaches.

[Jedes]

I don't either. I see it as worse than hypocrisy. It is deceitful. He is out there saying he is all against this pork (its unconstitutional blah blah blah) while he is slipping it in the back door intentionally. He is willingly being dishonest about it.

The same as he is for term limits and has been elected to 10? 11? terms ?

This is not a man that leads by example. He doesn't practice what he preaches.

But you're being fairly selective. Correct me if i'm wrong, but he opted out of the congressional pension, has consistantly voted against congressional pay raises, hasn't EVER? taken a junket. Sent all 5 of his childen through school without taking federal aid.

[bella-day]

But you're being fairly selective. Correct me if i'm wrong, but he opted out of the congressional pension, has consistantly voted against congressional pay raises, hasn't EVER? taken a junket. Sent all 5 of his childen through school without taking federal aid.

Do you honestly believe that a Congressman's child would qualify for Federal Grants for college?

If you do it's only because you know absolutely nothing about the Pell Grant Program.

[bella-day]

I don't either. I see it as worse than hypocrisy. It is deceitful. He is out there saying he is all against this pork (its unconstitutional blah blah blah) while he is slipping it in the back door intentionally. He is willingly being dishonest about it.

The same as he is for term limits and has been elected to 10? 11? terms ?

This is not a man that leads by example. He doesn't practice what he preaches.

Well, I guess it would never occur to him to install his own term limit. That would be way too simple.

But hey, he has a choir that can see the forest for the trees. He can blather away and their eyes glaze over. Kind of convenient for him when you stop to consider that if they really looked at his actions they would notice they are a bit out of tune with his chatter.

[Thanatos144]

Most Paul supporters are young or new to politics. They see what he wants them to see. The many more of us who are cynical like to look befor we leap. We saw Paul for what he is. He is a opertunistic politican like the rest. Except the rest dont try to hide it as decitefully as he does.


And befor you paul supporters get bent out of shape I just want to say yes we can dismiss a person for one issue if that one issue is national defense. Thats a presidents one and most important job. Paul to me and many more has shown us he isnt compatent to run the big show.

[Fire Watch]

They're lemmings.

[Jedes]

Do you honestly believe that a Congressman's child would qualify for Federal Grants for college?

If you do it's only because you know absolutely nothing about the Pell Grant Program.

Again, selectively commenting on one of many items. first, there are other types of federal aid than Pell Grants, including a variety of subsidized and unsubsidized loans. secondly, i never said anything about the Pell Grant. Perhaps his childen were qualified for low interest, subsidized loans. i don't know much about the Pell Grant system, you are correct. My tuition was paid for by the GI Bill, and my own pocket.

either way, from what i've read, there are many examples where he does seem to practice what he believes. note, i'm not denying the earmarks issue, but it seems some ignore the fact that he seems to have a consistant voting record vs. Tax increases, and supporting income tax reductions.

[Jedes]

They're lemmings.

That's no way to talk to fellow conservatives.

[gwhughes]

They're lemmings.

I thought you were outta here.

[Fire Watch]

:lol:I thought you were outta here.
And now I'm back.

[Fire Watch]

That's no way to talk to fellow conservatives.
Who cares if they're conservatives or not. The Ron aPAULogist® retreading trolls are a waste of space on this planet. True conservatives don't act the way they do. They're idiotic, criminals, disingenuous, and dishonest to the core.

[Jedes]

Most Paul supporters are young or new to politics. They see what he wants them to see. The many more of us who are cynical like to look befor we leap. We saw Paul for what he is. He is a opertunistic politican like the rest. Except the rest dont try to hide it as decitefully as he does.


And befor you paul supporters get bent out of shape I just want to say yes we can dismiss a person for one issue if that one issue is national defense. Thats a presidents one and most important job. Paul to me and many more has shown us he isnt compatent to run the big show.


Thanatos,

i wouldn't look down on anyone for voting on a single issue- placing something they feel passionate about above others. My grandparents voted on the prolife issue almost exclusively, and were able to influence their community against abortion being practiced there - and the clinic eventually ended performing abortions.

You feel the Iraq War is helping defend our nation. i disagree entirely, but there's nothing wrong with voting for a single issue, and ruling out a canidate who doesn't follow your ideals.

[gwhughes]

GL will be pleased......BTW go easy on this one, he seems like he has a little sense.

[Jedes]

Who cares if they're conservatives or not. The Ron aPAULogist® retreading trolls are a waste of space on this planet. True conservatives don't act the way they do. They're idiotic, criminals, disingenuous, and dishonest to the core.

Thats an absurd generalization.

Every canidate draws in a variety of supporters.

The Ron Paul supporters i've met have been of all ages, and irronically, mostly republicans. But then, in Iowa, perhaps i'm seeing a different demographic than you've been exposed to.

[Thanatos144]

Thanatos,

i wouldn't look down on anyone for voting on a single issue- placing something they feel passionate about above others. My grandparents voted on the prolife issue almost exclusively, and were able to influence their community against abortion being practiced there - and the clinic eventually ended performing abortions.

You feel the Iraq War is helping defend our nation. i disagree entirely, but there's nothing wrong with voting for a single issue, and ruling out a canidate who doesn't follow your ideals.

you one of the few then. But thats ok. If the others wernt around I woul;d have anyone to tease. I culd tease liberals but they are to easy.

[Fire Watch]

disagree entirely, but there's nothing wrong with voting for a single issue, and ruling out a canidate who doesn't follow your ideals.
Let's go with that then. I am a former Marine. I served multiple tours in Afghanistan and Iraq. Ron apPAULling® doesnt support our military. He prefers to send money to shrimp farmers.

Quite simply, I dont give a flying **** about earmarks for shrimp. Not one. MY problem is him standing on his soapbox, proclaiming himself such a conservative, while NEVER having voted for ONE DIME for any active duty service members. He has NEVER voted for ONE defense appropriations bill. He has NEVER voted to fund our defenses, EVER. NEVER one dime for active duty service members, the department of defense, weapons, but shrimp gets his nod. **** him. Our troops, and the funding required to support them are more important than ****ing shrimp.

Ron Paul did not vote on...

5/16/07 Vote 355: H R 1585: National Defense Authorization Act

5/15/07 Vote 346: H R 692: Army Specialist Joseph P. Micks Federal Flag Code Amendment Act

5/15/07 Vote 345: H R 634: American Veterans Disabled for Life Commemorative Coin

1/31/07 Vote 73: H CON RES 5: Establishing “Hire a Veteran Week”.

12/8/06 Vote 535: H R 6375: Requiring the Secretary of Defense to Submit to Congress An Annual Report and to Provide Notice to the Public on Congressional Initiatives in Funds Authorized or Made Available to the Department of Defense.

4/27/06 Vote 110: H RES 783: Providing for Consideration of the Bill (H.R. 4975) to Provide Greater Transparency With Respect to Lobbying Activities, and for Other Purposes

11/18/05 Vote 604: H R 2528: Military Quality of Life and Va Appropriations, Fy 2006

11/18/05 Vote 602: H RES 546: Condemning in the Strongest Terms the Terrorist Attacks That Occured on November 9, 2005, in Amman, Jordan

10/9/04 Vote 530: H R 4567: Making Appropriations for the Department of Homeland Security for the Fiscal Year Ending September 30, 2005, and for Other Purposes

10/9/04 Vote 529: H R 4837: Making Appropriations for Military Construction, Family Housing, and Base Realignment and Closure for the Department of Defense for the Fiscal Year Ending September 30, 2005, and for Other Purposes

10/9/04 Vote 528: H R 4200: Dod Authorization, Fiscal Year 2005

7/22/04 Vote 418: H R 4613: Department of Defense Appropriations, Fy 2005

7/22/04 Vote 417: H R 4837: Making Appropriations for Military Construction, Family Housing, and Base Realignment and Closure for the Department of Defense for the Fiscal Year Ending September 30, 2005, and for Other Purposes

11/7/03 Vote 617: H R 1588: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2004


Just a few minor votes that RP could not be bothered making...but the ****er voted for his shrimp money.. http://projects.washingtonpost.com/c.../votes/missed/ (http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/p000583/votes/missed/)

[Fire Watch]

Thats an absurd generalization.

Every canidate draws in a variety of supporters.

The Ron Paul supporters i've met have been of all ages, and irronically, mostly republicans. But then, in Iowa, perhaps i'm seeing a different demographic than you've been exposed to.
No, I'm going by the history of the Ron aPAULogist® ****heads that have flooded this forum, and keep flooding it..retreading over and over after being banned for being trolls/ copy-paste artist/ and spamming morons.

[Jedes]

Just a few minor votes that RP could not be bothered making...but the ****er voted for his shrimp money.. http://projects.washingtonpost.com/c.../votes/missed/ (http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/p000583/votes/missed/)


Actually, based on what several members of this forum have conveyed, he actually doesnt vote for the shrimp money?

[Thanatos144]

No, I'm going by the history of the Ron aPAULogist® ****heads that have flooded this forum, and keep flooding it..retreading over and over after being banned for being trolls/ copy-paste artist/ and spamming morons.

Tell us how you really fell :)

[Thanatos144]

Actually, based on what several members of this forum have conveyed, he actually doesnt vote for the shrimp money?

Dammit that made me laugh.

[Jedes]

Dammit that made me laugh.

and don't get me wrong, i do think its a bit weird to propose tons of money and vote against it. I'm just saying, he votes against the shrimp right lol

[Thanatos144]

and don't get me wrong, i do think its a bit weird to propose tons of money and vote against it. I'm just saying, he votes against the shrimp right lol

He might have voted for that one cause he had to claim it. I am not sure though.

[Jedes]

No, I'm going by the history of the Ron aPAULogist® ****heads that have flooded this forum, and keep flooding it..retreading over and over after being banned for being trolls/ copy-paste artist/ and spamming morons.

Well, first let me say as a former guardsman, i have a great deal of respect for the Marines. My brother in law is currently serving in Iraq.

I've heard about the out of controling spamming too. I'm ususally not a forum lurker, but when election season starts, i go to all the political sites and check out what people are thinking.

I'm sure there are lots of young kids that just hear the anti war message and are attracted to it, and may not know Paul's other positions. It seems like in iowa though, many people get interested in the political season early, and i've mett some good people who support Paul, some former military, many conservatives who've never really supported this iraq war. There's not many here who do, but the debate is more about "how to leave". And those who want to leave soon, but don't want to support OBillary, tend to like Paul.

by the way, Huckabee is more popular here than most people would think as well.

[bella-day]

Again, selectively commenting on one of many items. first, there are other types of federal aid than Pell Grants, including a variety of subsidized and unsubsidized loans. secondly, i never said anything about the Pell Grant. Perhaps his childen were qualified for low interest, subsidized loans. i don't know much about the Pell Grant system, you are correct. My tuition was paid for by the GI Bill, and my own pocket.

either way, from what i've read, there are many examples where he does seem to practice what he believes. note, i'm not denying the earmarks issue, but it seems some ignore the fact that he seems to have a consistant voting record vs. Tax increases, and supporting income tax reductions.

Yeah, he just votes against everything. It must make it easy for him. Little thought, just vote no...including funding for our troops.

I'll say this again since you apparently overlooked my earlier post.

My son served 2 tours in Iraq and 1 in Afghanistan. I'm well aware your idol voted against the war...he votes against everything.

But you do not send our troops to war and then vote against funding them.

That pig was willing to put my son in more danger to make his political points.

If you feel that is impressive; you are very easily impressed.

Our troops are not pawn on a chest board. They are PEOPLE that were sent to do a job and we the people should be willing to support them and make sure they have the tools needed to do that job.

Your idol forgot that for his blah...blah....blah points. Maybe he won people like you over with it. Those of us that have family and friends over there are not impressed.

I'd write in Bugs Bunny before I put a mark by that man's name.

[Jedes]

I didn’t intentionally overlook your last post- I’ve just been occasionally reading and posting from “work”. ;)

Actually, I completely disagree. Don’t use the “funding” cop out. If you’re a representative, and feel we’ve gone to war under false pretenses, and are continuing a prolonged police action with few tangible results (largely due to the culture and corruption of the Iraqi parliament), you try to END the situation.

I believe our presence in Iraq is unnecessary, and only hurting our ability to deal with al quada, and other threats, including Iran.

The troops aren’t going to run out of money. Trust me. I’ve served. I know a thing or two about the military burocracy. I have a brother in law, a cousin, and numerous friends serving in Iraq. Many of them feel the same as I do.

That doesn’t diminish the service of your son, or those of you who have honest, but misplaced notions of the Iraq situation and national security. But if anyone’s playing politics and using our troops as pawns, in my opinions, its those who wish to continually nation build, and police the world. It was wrong during Clinton. It’s wrong during Bush.

The troops have done their job admirably. They brought down the Iraqi regime in six weeks. But they’ve been policing a country for four years, not fighting a war, and if that country wants democracy, they’re going to have to fight for it, as WE did over 200 years ago. We can’t and shouldn’t fight that fight.

[Jedes]

you one of the few then. But thats ok. If the others wernt around I woul;d have anyone to tease. I culd tease liberals but they are to easy.

lol. well at least i've made your day a bit more interesting haha.

As far as teasing liberals, I've read moveon forums from time to time, and it always reminds me of the "hate hannity" hotline type of comments :lol:

[Conservative Okie]

and don't get me wrong, i do think its a bit weird to propose tons of money and vote against it. I'm just saying, he votes against the shrimp right lol

The word isn't weird. Its WRONG. Its LYING. Its DECEITFUL.

He is against earmarks right? but just not his OWN earmarks?

He is a lying hypocritical fool.

and you Paulettes EAT it UP !

Yum Yum Yum !

http://bestsmileys.com/eating1/13.gif

[Jedes]

The word isn't weird. Its WRONG. Its LYING. Its DECEITFUL.

He is against earmarks right? but just not his OWN earmarks?

He is a lying hypocritical fool.

and you Paulettes EAT it UP !

Yum Yum Yum !

http://bestsmileys.com/eating1/13.gif


what's a Paulette? That doesnt even make sense. Are you denying the Paul has a consistant record of voting against Tax increases, and supporting income tax reductions?

[one_party_under_god]

With 60% Americans considering Iraq war a blunder and firmly against over $2 billion per week purposeless Iraq adventure and with and reports of Christian Right looking at third party candidates, is there anyone who can beat Obama in 08 besides Ron Paul?

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/10/01/388589.aspx

http://campaignsandelections.com/nh/releases/index.cfm?ID=4563

Ron Paul revolution is getting more dangerous by the day, we need to stop this man.

[Conservative Okie]

what's a Paulette? That doesnt even make sense. Are you denying the Paul has a consistant record of voting against Tax increases, and supporting income tax reductions?

Makes sense to everyone but Paulettes.

[Fire Watch]

With 60% Americans considering Iraq war a blunder and firmly against over $2 billion per week purposeless Iraq adventure and with and reports of Christian Right looking at third party candidates, is there anyone who can beat Obama in 08 besides Ron Paul?

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/10/01/388589.aspx

http://campaignsandelections.com/nh/releases/index.cfm?ID=4563

Ron Paul revolution is getting more dangerous by the day, we need to stop this man.
Ron apPAULling has 0 chance at getting the GOP nomination. You folks need to wake up.

[Jedes]

Makes sense to everyone but Paulettes.

I don't feel the need to call Hillary or Obama supports names/ classify them into a single generalized group, just because i disagree with everything they stand for. It's silly to resort to that tactic, just because you dislike a canidate. Fine. Don't vote for Paul. We get it.

I happen to agree with him on Iraq, so will likely support him at caucus.

[Conservative Okie]

I don't feel the need to call Hillary or Obama supports names/ classify them into a single generalized group, just because i disagree with everything they stand for. It's silly to resort to that tactic, just because you dislike a canidate. Fine. Don't vote for Paul. We get it.

I happen to agree with him on Iraq, so will likely support him at caucus.


Its funny how you Pauly supporters can't look past what he is saying to see what he is doing.

[Jedes]

Ron apPAULling has 0 chance at getting the GOP nomination. You folks need to wake up.

I don't base my primary vote on popularity. Vote for the canidate who best represents your positions. Ron Paul seems to be the best fit for me, based on the current crop of GOP canidates.

[Jedes]

Its funny how you Pauly supporters can't look past what he is saying to see what he is doing.

Campeining for the GOP nomination?

[Fire Watch]

No. Campaigning for the GOP nomination.

[Conservative Okie]

Campeining for the GOP nomination?



d=m/v

[Jedes]

No. Campaigning for the GOP nomination.

Me = Dislexia + internet forums + poor speller - it's not the first spelling mistake/word mix up i will have, and it will certainly not be the last :lol:

[Jedes]

d=m/v

?

[Conservative Okie]

?

density formula.

you are a dense one.

[Jedes]

density formula.

you are a dense one.


sorry, i should have asked a more specific ? than just "?"

what, in your expert opinion, is Ron Paul "doing"?

[Fire Watch]

Wasting his and your time in a race he cannot win.

[Jedes]

Wasting his and your time in a race he cannot win.

Ah, gotcha. And if i were you, i'd spend time putting energy into supporting someone who agrees with your positions. The primary is the time to do it.

I wouldn't feel compelled to support someone like Paul if i didn't think his canidacy had a chance to at least push the debate back into conservative mainstream. I've supported longshots before, and have never felt it to be a waste of time or effort.

[Average Joe From Texas]

As I've caught up reading this thread milk just shot out of my nose. Is the great Ron Paul going to be angry with me?

[Mr. M]

As I've caught up reading this thread milk just shot out of my nose. Is the great Ron Paul going to be angry with me?

You are forgiven.


The Paul is full of the chocolate milk of human kindness...

[NKT]

You are forgiven.


The Paul is full of the chocolate milk of human kindness...

All hail the Paul!!:hug:

[Mr. M]

All hail the Paul!!:hug:

lol...

"Bow down before the one you serve...


you're going to get what you deserve."

[NKT]

"Bow down before the one you serve...


you're going to get what you deserve."

http://images.bravenet.com/common/images/smilies/headbang.gif

[Mr. M]

http://images.bravenet.com/common/images/smilies/headbang.gif

lol...


Great smiley!

[NKT]

lol...


Great smiley!

Great song!! http://home.tiscalinet.ch/chriskuert/smiley/headbang_2.gif

[gwhughes]

Ah...nice to see some chocolate milk lovers back in this thread.


Ron Paul's chocolate milk is derived from soy products mixed with earmarks for texture.

[gwhughes]

http://images.bravenet.com/common/images/smilies/headbang.gif

Damn, I used to do that.

[Average Joe From Texas]

Milk.......It does a paulbot good!!

[NKT]

LOL!!!! :dance:

[Jedes]

Milk.......It does a paulbot good!!

Paulbot? Thats a new one. This is just bizzare. Only on the internet, i guess lol.

[tobybear]

I always found it odd that in the Wake of Katrina DR! Paul whined and complained about the States affected recieving Federal Disaster Relief and FEMA!

Responding to Katrina

September 12, 2005


Texans and all Americans have responded wonderfully to the Hurricane Katrina disaster, opening their wallets and their homes to help displaced victims. Private donations already have topped $600 million. This outpouring shows there is hope for rebuilding and breathing life back into New Orleans and other destroyed communities, if the American entrepreneurial spirit is permitted to operate freely.

When it comes to government relief efforts for the victims of Hurricane Katrina, Congress must be very careful with the nearly $52 billion dollars approved last week-- almost all of which goes to FEMA. The original $10 billion authorized by Congress for hurricane relief was spent in a matter of days, and there is every indication that FEMA is nothing but a bureaucratic black hole that spends money without the slightest accountability. Any federal aid should be distributed as directly as possible to local communities, rather than through wasteful middlemen like FEMA. We cannot let the Katrina tragedy blind us to fiscal realities, namely the staggering budget deficits and national debt that threaten to devastate our economy.

Why does Congress assume that the best approach is simply to write a huge check to FEMA, the very government agency that failed so spectacularly? This does not make sense. We have all seen the numerous articles detailing the seemingly inexcusable mistakes FEMA made - before and after the hurricane. Yet in typical fashion, Congress seems to think that the best way to fix the mess is to throw money at the very government agency that failed. We should not be rewarding failure.

Considering the demonstrated ineptitude of government on both the federal and state level in this disaster, the people affected by the hurricane and subsequent flood would no doubt be better off if relief money simply was sent directly to them or to community organizations dedicated to clean-up and reconstruction. Indeed, we have seen numerous troubling examples of private organizations and individuals attempting to help their fellow Americans in so many ways over the last ten days, only to be turned back by FEMA or held up for days by government red tape. We have seen in previous disasters how individuals and non-governmental organizations were often among the first to pitch in and help their neighbors and fellow citizens. Now, FEMA is sending these good Samaritans a troubling message: stay away, let us handle it.

The examples of FEMA blocking relief efforts are numerous: Wal-Mart trucks containing water and supplies were turned away; the Coast Guard was prevented from delivering diesel fuel; a 600-bed Navy hospital was left unused; firefighters were ordered away from flood sites; donated generators were refused; and rescue attempts by private citizens were rebuffed. Is FEMA really an agency that should be given another $50 billion?

In several disasters that have befallen my Gulf Coast district, my constituents have told me many times that they prefer to rebuild and recover without the help of federal agencies like FEMA, which so often impose their own bureaucratic solutions on the owners of private property.

Once again the federal government is attempting to impose a top-down solution to the disaster. No one questions where this $52 billion will come from. The answer, of course, is that the federal government simply is going to print the money. There will be no reductions in federal spending elsewhere to free up this disaster aid. Rather, the money will come from a printing press. The economic devastation created by such a reckless approach may well be even more wide-reaching than the disaster this bill is meant to repair.

We should consider more constructive ways to help New Orleans and the other affected areas recover from this tragedy. There are numerous approaches, such as the creation of tax-free enterprise zones, which would attract private capital to the area and result in a much quicker and more responsive recovery. Katrina’s victims and the rest of the country deserve a more sustainable and financially rational approach than simply printing and spending money.

http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2005/tst091205.htm

Then begged W' to quickly send Federal Assistance to Texas when Rita threatened Texas!

Paul Asks President for Emergency Declaration


September 21, 2005

Washington, DC: Congressman Ron Paul has joined Texas Governor Rick Perry in requesting a federal state of emergency declaration for the entire state of Texas. Under a federal declaration of emergency, federal assistance in many forms becomes available to the people of Texas. This assistance includes Disaster Unemployment Assistance, Hazard Mitigation, SBA disaster loans, and USDA loans, in addition to assistance from the U.S. Coast Guard, Federal Emergency Management Agency, and the Department of Homeland Security in general.

President Bush declared the emergency today, pledging a stepped-up federal response to what may be the biggest Hurricane ever to hit Texas.

Paul, in a letter to the president, stressed that all 254 counties in Texas likely will be affected by the hurricane, causing the displacement of thousands or even millions of citizens. Galveston and Brazoria counties in particular may be hard hit, and will need the coordination of federal, state, and local disaster services to ensure the fastest possible recovery.

http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2005/pr092105.htm

Maybe he found out those MRE's contained Cocoa Beverage Powder and and powdered Chocolate Dairy Shakes!

[DiveCon]

I always found it odd that in the Wake of Katrina DR! Paul whined and complained about the States affected recieving Federal Disaster Relief and FEMA!

Responding to Katrina

September 12, 2005


Texans and all Americans have responded wonderfully to the Hurricane Katrina disaster, opening their wallets and their homes to help displaced victims. Private donations already have topped $600 million. This outpouring shows there is hope for rebuilding and breathing life back into New Orleans and other destroyed communities, if the American entrepreneurial spirit is permitted to operate freely.

When it comes to government relief efforts for the victims of Hurricane Katrina, Congress must be very careful with the nearly $52 billion dollars approved last week-- almost all of which goes to FEMA. The original $10 billion authorized by Congress for hurricane relief was spent in a matter of days, and there is every indication that FEMA is nothing but a bureaucratic black hole that spends money without the slightest accountability. Any federal aid should be distributed as directly as possible to local communities, rather than through wasteful middlemen like FEMA. We cannot let the Katrina tragedy blind us to fiscal realities, namely the staggering budget deficits and national debt that threaten to devastate our economy.

Why does Congress assume that the best approach is simply to write a huge check to FEMA, the very government agency that failed so spectacularly? This does not make sense. We have all seen the numerous articles detailing the seemingly inexcusable mistakes FEMA made - before and after the hurricane. Yet in typical fashion, Congress seems to think that the best way to fix the mess is to throw money at the very government agency that failed. We should not be rewarding failure.

Considering the demonstrated ineptitude of government on both the federal and state level in this disaster, the people affected by the hurricane and subsequent flood would no doubt be better off if relief money simply was sent directly to them or to community organizations dedicated to clean-up and reconstruction. Indeed, we have seen numerous troubling examples of private organizations and individuals attempting to help their fellow Americans in so many ways over the last ten days, only to be turned back by FEMA or held up for days by government red tape. We have seen in previous disasters how individuals and non-governmental organizations were often among the first to pitch in and help their neighbors and fellow citizens. Now, FEMA is sending these good Samaritans a troubling message: stay away, let us handle it.

The examples of FEMA blocking relief efforts are numerous: Wal-Mart trucks containing water and supplies were turned away; the Coast Guard was prevented from delivering diesel fuel; a 600-bed Navy hospital was left unused; firefighters were ordered away from flood sites; donated generators were refused; and rescue attempts by private citizens were rebuffed. Is FEMA really an agency that should be given another $50 billion?

In several disasters that have befallen my Gulf Coast district, my constituents have told me many times that they prefer to rebuild and recover without the help of federal agencies like FEMA, which so often impose their own bureaucratic solutions on the owners of private property.

Once again the federal government is attempting to impose a top-down solution to the disaster. No one questions where this $52 billion will come from. The answer, of course, is that the federal government simply is going to print the money. There will be no reductions in federal spending elsewhere to free up this disaster aid. Rather, the money will come from a printing press. The economic devastation created by such a reckless approach may well be even more wide-reaching than the disaster this bill is meant to repair.

We should consider more constructive ways to help New Orleans and the other affected areas recover from this tragedy. There are numerous approaches, such as the creation of tax-free enterprise zones, which would attract private capital to the area and result in a much quicker and more responsive recovery. Katrina’s victims and the rest of the country deserve a more sustainable and financially rational approach than simply printing and spending money.

http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2005/tst091205.htm

Then begged W' to quickly send Federal Assistance to Texas when Rita threatened Texas!

Paul Asks President for Emergency Declaration


September 21, 2005

Washington, DC: Congressman Ron Paul has joined Texas Governor Rick Perry in requesting a federal state of emergency declaration for the entire state of Texas. Under a federal declaration of emergency, federal assistance in many forms becomes available to the people of Texas. This assistance includes Disaster Unemployment Assistance, Hazard Mitigation, SBA disaster loans, and USDA loans, in addition to assistance from the U.S. Coast Guard, Federal Emergency Management Agency, and the Department of Homeland Security in general.

President Bush declared the emergency today, pledging a stepped-up federal response to what may be the biggest Hurricane ever to hit Texas.

Paul, in a letter to the president, stressed that all 254 counties in Texas likely will be affected by the hurricane, causing the displacement of thousands or even millions of citizens. Galveston and Brazoria counties in particular may be hard hit, and will need the coordination of federal, state, and local disaster services to ensure the fastest possible recovery.

http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2005/pr092105.htm

Maybe he found out those MRE's contained Cocoa Beverage Powder and and powdered Chocolate Dairy Shakes!
thats not hard to figure out
pork is bad, unless its pork Paul likes
kinda seems like the same thing for FEMA relief

[austin356]

thats not hard to figure out
pork is bad, unless its pork Paul likes
kinda seems like the same thing for FEMA relief



Scary......... A Congressman that likes to tell his voters he "brought something home"........

Hummm thats strange, I tell ya.

[Mr. M]

Scary......... A Congressman that likes to tell his voters he "brought something home"........

Hummm thats strange, I tell ya.

Then can we dispense with the worn out platitude that The Paul despises pork?

[jwil59]

Ok so what have we learned here?

Does Ron like his chocolate milk pre mixed or not?

If not, does he like the liquid Hershey's mix or the concentrate Nestles?

[DiveCon]

Scary......... A Congressman that likes to tell his voters he "brought something home"........

Hummm thats strange, I tell ya.
if he wasnt voting no on everything because of pork, you would have a point
otherwise, it shows him to be a massive hypocrite

[Jedes]

Ok so what have we learned here?

Does Ron like his chocolate milk pre mixed or not?

If not, does he like the liquid Hershey's mix or the concentrate Nestles?

No official campaign answer. As i said, based on avalible evidence, he probobly likes skim or 1 percent milk, without added sugar. Hope this helps :)

[Mr. M]

Ok so what have we learned here?

Does Ron like his chocolate milk pre mixed or not?

If not, does he like the liquid Hershey's mix or the concentrate Nestles?

I'm not sure about the quality or brand. As far as quantity goes?


He's a half pint.

[Wookinstien]

I'm not sure about the quality or brand. As far as quantity goes?


He's a half pint.

I though he was just a little squirt! :))

[jwil59]

I'm not sure about the quality or brand. As far as quantity goes?


He's a half pint.


:)):)):)):)) Even the Paul supporters will get a chuckle from that :lol:

[NKT]

I though he was just a little squirt! :))

Oh so many replies to this, but I don't wanna get banned :mrgreen:

[jwil59]

Oh so many replies to this, but I don't wanna get banned :mrgreen:


LOL....Simmer down now

[tobybear]

Scary......... A Congressman that likes to tell his voters he "brought something home"........

Hummm thats strange, I tell ya.

Somehow other peoples pork is bad!

Somehow other peoples pork is Un-Constitutional!

When its DR! Pauls its A-OK! :eh:

And in case you didnt read DR! Pauls whole article that I posted...


In several disasters that have befallen my Gulf Coast district, my constituents have told me many times that they prefer to rebuild and recover without the help of federal agencies like FEMA, which so often impose their own bureaucratic solutions on the owners of private property.


http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2005/tst091205.htm

Apparently DR! Paul has no problem selling his constituents out!

Even if its UN-Constitutional Pork!

[NKT]

LOL....Simmer down now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNPWQfKT3TQ

[Wookinstien]

Oh so many replies to this, but I don't wanna get banned :mrgreen:

That feeling you are feeling now. THAT is my life!! :)):))


Hello I'm Wookie

and I am a complusive comedian.......:hug:

[NKT]

That feeling you are feeling now. THAT is my life!! :)):))


Hello I'm Wookie

and I am a complusive comedian.......:hug:

LOL!!! ^5 :mrgreen:

[Mr. M]

That feeling you are feeling now. THAT is my life!! :)):))


Hello I'm Wookie

and I am a complusive comedian.......:hug:

lol...

We'd put you in a twelve step program...


but something tells me you wouldn't take it seriously.

[Wookinstien]

lol...

We'd put you in a twelve step program...


but something tells me you wouldn't take it seriously.

Seriously? Me? :angel:

[Mr. M]

Seriously? Me? :angel:

Oscar Wilde said, "Seriousness is the last refuge of the shallow."


I don't think you've even taken the first refuge...


:D

[Wookinstien]

Oscar Wilde said, "Seriousness is the last refuge of the shallow."


I don't think you've even taken the first refuge...


:D

Oh, bravo!.....Bravo! :D

[Fire Watch]

I always found it odd that in the Wake of Katrina DR! Paul whined and complained about the States affected recieving Federal Disaster Relief and FEMA!

Responding to Katrina

September 12, 2005


Texans and all Americans have responded wonderfully to the Hurricane Katrina disaster, opening their wallets and their homes to help displaced victims. Private donations already have topped $600 million. This outpouring shows there is hope for rebuilding and breathing life back into New Orleans and other destroyed communities, if the American entrepreneurial spirit is permitted to operate freely.

When it comes to government relief efforts for the victims of Hurricane Katrina, Congress must be very careful with the nearly $52 billion dollars approved last week-- almost all of which goes to FEMA. The original $10 billion authorized by Congress for hurricane relief was spent in a matter of days, and there is every indication that FEMA is nothing but a bureaucratic black hole that spends money without the slightest accountability. Any federal aid should be distributed as directly as possible to local communities, rather than through wasteful middlemen like FEMA. We cannot let the Katrina tragedy blind us to fiscal realities, namely the staggering budget deficits and national debt that threaten to devastate our economy.

Why does Congress assume that the best approach is simply to write a huge check to FEMA, the very government agency that failed so spectacularly? This does not make sense. We have all seen the numerous articles detailing the seemingly inexcusable mistakes FEMA made - before and after the hurricane. Yet in typical fashion, Congress seems to think that the best way to fix the mess is to throw money at the very government agency that failed. We should not be rewarding failure.

Considering the demonstrated ineptitude of government on both the federal and state level in this disaster, the people affected by the hurricane and subsequent flood would no doubt be better off if relief money simply was sent directly to them or to community organizations dedicated to clean-up and reconstruction. Indeed, we have seen numerous troubling examples of private organizations and individuals attempting to help their fellow Americans in so many ways over the last ten days, only to be turned back by FEMA or held up for days by government red tape. We have seen in previous disasters how individuals and non-governmental organizations were often among the first to pitch in and help their neighbors and fellow citizens. Now, FEMA is sending these good Samaritans a troubling message: stay away, let us handle it.

The examples of FEMA blocking relief efforts are numerous: Wal-Mart trucks containing water and supplies were turned away; the Coast Guard was prevented from delivering diesel fuel; a 600-bed Navy hospital was left unused; firefighters were ordered away from flood sites; donated generators were refused; and rescue attempts by private citizens were rebuffed. Is FEMA really an agency that should be given another $50 billion?

In several disasters that have befallen my Gulf Coast district, my constituents have told me many times that they prefer to rebuild and recover without the help of federal agencies like FEMA, which so often impose their own bureaucratic solutions on the owners of private property.

Once again the federal government is attempting to impose a top-down solution to the disaster. No one questions where this $52 billion will come from. The answer, of course, is that the federal government simply is going to print the money. There will be no reductions in federal spending elsewhere to free up this disaster aid. Rather, the money will come from a printing press. The economic devastation created by such a reckless approach may well be even more wide-reaching than the disaster this bill is meant to repair.

We should consider more constructive ways to help New Orleans and the other affected areas recover from this tragedy. There are numerous approaches, such as the creation of tax-free enterprise zones, which would attract private capital to the area and result in a much quicker and more responsive recovery. Katrina’s victims and the rest of the country deserve a more sustainable and financially rational approach than simply printing and spending money.

http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2005/tst091205.htm

Then begged W' to quickly send Federal Assistance to Texas when Rita threatened Texas!

Paul Asks President for Emergency Declaration


September 21, 2005

Washington, DC: Congressman Ron Paul has joined Texas Governor Rick Perry in requesting a federal state of emergency declaration for the entire state of Texas. Under a federal declaration of emergency, federal assistance in many forms becomes available to the people of Texas. This assistance includes Disaster Unemployment Assistance, Hazard Mitigation, SBA disaster loans, and USDA loans, in addition to assistance from the U.S. Coast Guard, Federal Emergency Management Agency, and the Department of Homeland Security in general.

President Bush declared the emergency today, pledging a stepped-up federal response to what may be the biggest Hurricane ever to hit Texas.

Paul, in a letter to the president, stressed that all 254 counties in Texas likely will be affected by the hurricane, causing the displacement of thousands or even millions of citizens. Galveston and Brazoria counties in particular may be hard hit, and will need the coordination of federal, state, and local disaster services to ensure the fastest possible recovery.

http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2005/pr092105.htm

Maybe he found out those MRE's contained Cocoa Beverage Powder and and powdered Chocolate Dairy Shakes!

Blatant hyPAULcrisy®

[Army Wife]

Ron Paul's chocolate milk is derived from soy products mixed with earmarks for texture.

EWwwww textured chocolate milk......:sick:

[Thanatos144]

Somehow other peoples pork is bad!

Somehow other peoples pork is Un-Constitutional!

When its DR! Pauls its A-OK! :eh:

And in case you didnt read DR! Pauls whole article that I posted...


In several disasters that have befallen my Gulf Coast district, my constituents have told me many times that they prefer to rebuild and recover without the help of federal agencies like FEMA, which so often impose their own bureaucratic solutions on the owners of private property.


http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2005/tst091205.htm

Apparently DR! Paul has no problem selling his constituents out!

Even if its UN-Constitutional Pork!

Maybe he is like Kerry. He voted against it befor he voted for it. :))

[Fire Watch]

sounds about right...

[gwhughes]

You are all neocon troskyites. The Paul's logic is infallible.

[Fire Watch]

All hail..

[Thanatos144]

You are all neocon troskyites. The Paul's logic is infallible.

Ron Paul has logic? When did this happen? Why wasnt I informed?

[Fire Watch]

He voted against funding logic.

[Thanatos144]

He voted against funding logic.

Now if it was a earmark it would be a whole diffrent story. :)

[Fire Watch]

True..he would have stuffed it full of pork before not voting for it.

[Thanatos144]

True..he would have stuffed it full of pork before not voting for it.

As long as he was sure it would pass.

[Fire Watch]

like a small kidney stone

[Jíbaro]

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/pix/rather_dan050309.jpg

Have you hugged your pathological liar today? (http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=353971)

[Fire Watch]

lmao

[Fire Watch]

lmao

[Wookinstien]

Dan looks like he needs more fiber....

[NKT]

Dan looks like he needs more fiber....

Fiber?? How about a lobotomy?

[Wookinstien]

Fiber?? How about a lobotomy?

That happened years ago, silly! :lol:

[NKT]

Oh, I must be too young to know ;)

[Wookinstien]

Oh, I must be too young to know ;)

Yep I'm an old fart... I remember when he walked off the set live on the pure BS news.

[NKT]

Yep I'm an old fart... I remember when he walked off the set live on the pure BS news.

he didn't...............

:lol:

[Wookinstien]

Oh yes he did.. He was in the middle of his contract dispute with CBS. His gripe was he didn't want to walk more than 300 yards, after that he wanted a limo to take him, a limo provided by CBS of course.

I worked for an affiliate of CBS at the time.

[NKT]

Oh yes he did.. He was in the middle of his contract dispute with CBS. His gripe was he didn't want to walk more than 300 yards, after that he wanted a limo to take him, a limo provided by CBS of course.

I worked for an affiliate of CBS at the time.

BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k104/sundedo/1168-416-rofl.jpg

[Fire Watch]

those silly libs

[Fire Watch]

Ron apPAULling® is responsible for the Saint's horrible season.

[tobybear]

Do DR! Paul and his followers still use their Orphan Annie decoder pins to send each other secret messages about Ovaltine?

[Mr. M]

Do DR! Paul and his followers still use their Orphan Annie decoder pins to send each other secret messages about Ovaltine?

When they aren't protecting the country with their Red Ryder BB Guns...

[gwhughes]

Ron apPAULling® is responsible for the Saint's horrible season.

He goes by the name John Kasay on the weekends?


What a kick.

[Fire Watch]

He's a sly one.

[gwhughes]

When they aren't protecting the country with their Red Ryder BB Guns...

Watch your tone, they'll soon be circling their little red wagons.

[Fire Watch]

Unless that requires actual funding from the Gub'mint...then they'll just let you run right over them...standing up for the Constitoootion and all.

[gdoane]

Paulettes, the most pathetic name in politics presents:
the ADVENTURES OF RON PAUL!
Older than an Egyptian Mummy!
Less Popular than Lyndon LaRouche!
Able to creep voters out with a single word!
LOOK! Down In The Polls!
It's a Loser! It's Voter Kryptonite! It's RON PAUL, MAN!!
Yes, it's Ron Paul, strange libertarian from another party pretending to be GOP
with promises and rhetoric far beneath those of sensible men!
RON PAUL! Who can get kicked out of debates, poll in the single digits and who,
disguised as a Republican Candidate,
Lunatic side story for all who believe the Republican Party is crazy,
fights a never-ending battle for Truth, Justice, and all the Internet Campaign Donations he can get!
And now, another exciting episode in the ADVENTURES OF RON PAUL!!

[Jedes]

Paulettes, the most pathetic name in politics presents:
the ADVENTURES OF RON PAUL!
Older than an Egyptian Mummy!
Less Popular than Lyndon LaRouche!
Able to creep voters out with a single word!
LOOK! Down In The Polls!
It's a Loser! It's Voter Kryptonite! It's RON PAUL, MAN!!
Yes, it's Ron Paul, strange libertarian from another party pretending to be GOP
with promises and rhetoric far beneath those of sensible men!
RON PAUL! Who can get kicked out of debates, poll in the single digits and who,
disguised as a Republican Candidate,
Lunatic side story for all who believe the Republican Party is crazy,
fights a never-ending battle for Truth, Justice, and all the Internet Campaign Donations he can get!
And now, another exciting episode in the ADVENTURES OF RON PAUL!!


Libertarians economically ARE old school republicans. And i'd take that over the new version of republicanism we are getting - aka wellfare state. That makes Libertarian far from a slanderous word, unless you are ignorant about them. Just ask Clint Eastwood, who you seem so fond of.

As i recall, Paul has assosciated/voted/ran as a republican most of his life. If i was an envirmentalist, and voted for nader/ran once as a green party canidate, but voted for/ran as a democrat for 90 percent of my life, would i somehow "not be a democrat?" Silly.

I see you like the flawed two party/black and white political system we have now. How very anti-democratic.

[gdoane]

Libertarians economically ARE old school republicans.

No, they aren't. Libertarians believe in Social Security and Welfare and every other Social Program under the Sun. They're social spending liberals.

And i'd take that over the new version of republicanism we are getting - aka wellfare state. That makes Libertarian far from a slanderous word, unless you are ignorant about them. Just ask Clint Eastwood, who you seem so fond of.

I'm fond of Dirty Harry, not Clint Eastwood. I like the shoot first and ask questions later style.

As i recall, Paul has assosciated/voted/ran as a republican most of his life. If i was an envirmentalist, and voted for nader/ran once as a green party canidate, but voted for/ran as a democrat for 90 percent of my life, would i somehow "not be a democrat?" Silly.

I see you like the flawed two party/black and white political system we have now. How very anti-democratic.

Democracy is pathetic. That's why this nation is a Constitutional Republic and not a Democracy. In a Democracy, the stupid people have equal voice to the smart people and you wind up mired in mediocracy. Democracy is a path to mediocrity. Only Republicanism rewards greatness.

[Fire Watch]

Ouch...damn..that hurt...go easy on the newbies Gene.

[Jedes]

No, they aren't. Libertarians believe in Social Security and Welfare and every other Social Program under the Sun. They're social spending liberals.


Very funny. And if, on the offchance, you aren't joking - here is my response.

LOL!!!!

[gdoane]

Ouch...damn..that hurt...go easy on the newbies Gene.

The real pain for the Paulettes will be on February 5th, when the Primaries end this charade. At the rate Ron Paul is ticking off the GOP, he probably won't even be invited to the Republican National Convention in 2008. It'll be like his last speech in Iowa out in a chicken coop next to the REAL Republican contenders.

[Jedes]

Ouch...damn..that hurt...go easy on the newbies Gene.

Everything he said responding to me sounded like parody lol!! So if you think thats going hard on me, lol!!!! Is that really what you think? on libertarians, and "I like the shoot first and ask questions later style. " (i like to send other people overseas to shoot first in policing actions, and stay at home guys!)

if so, i feel sorry for you guys.

[gdoane]

Everything he said responding to me sounded like parody lol!! So if you think thats going hard on me, lol!!!! Is that really what you think? on libertarians, and "I like the shoot first and ask questions later style. " (i like to send other people overseas to shoot first in policing actions, and stay at home guys!)

if so, i feel sorry for you guys.

Jedes, not to rain on your parade or anything but Rick and I are both military veterans, not stay at home guys. Granted, I was in the real Navy and Rick was just in the Marines which is Navy Cargo, but you can't rightly call a military vet somebody who sends other people overseas.

[johnrocks]

Jedes, not to rain on your parade or anything but Rick and I are both military veterans, not stay at home guys. Granted, I was in the real Navy and Rick was just in the Marines which is Navy Cargo, but you can't rightly call a military vet somebody who sends other people overseas.

:)):)) I'm looking forward to how Rick replies to this one.(Navy Cargo):)):))

[Jedes]

Jedes, not to rain on your parade or anything but Rick and I are both military veterans, not stay at home guys. Granted, I was in the real Navy and Rick was just in the Marines which is Navy Cargo, but you can't rightly call a military vet somebody who sends other people overseas.

Nope, and i was never deployed into combat, and never claim to be an expert at war, but i served long enough in the guards to know the attitutes people have of sending others into combat zones. Shoot first/ask questions later is hardly in the ilk of the founders, and certainly not christian. Strange how many in the military seemed to share my opinions on this matter.

And you are completely wrong about libterarism. I REALLY hope you are joking about that one.

[Fire Watch]

Everything he said responding to me sounded like parody lol!! So if you think thats going hard on me, lol!!!! Is that really what you think? on libertarians, and "I like the shoot first and ask questions later style. " (i like to send other people overseas to shoot first in policing actions, and stay at home guys!)

if so, i feel sorry for you guys.
You worthless troll. Gene is a former Squid, and I am a former Marine..both of us are combat veterans. I am a veteran of this current conflict. You really need to educate yourself a bit before opening your man pleaser next time.

[Jedes]

You worthless troll. Gene is a former Squid, and I am a former Marine..both of us are combat veterans. I am a veteran of this current conflict. You really need to educate yourself a bit before opening your man pleaser next time.

Yup, and i responded below, to him. (not you, as i respect your service, but not your childish attitute)

The clint eastwood attitute isn't right.

[Fire Watch]

Nope, and i was never deployed into combat, and never claim to be an expert at war, but i served long enough in the guards to know the attitutes people have of sending others into combat zones. Shoot first/ask questions later is hardly in the ilk of the founders, and certainly not christian. Strange how many in the military seemed to share my opinions on this matter.
I bet I know personally more Military members that agree with our stance than you know military members in total. You live in your little shelterd town and think you can speak for us veterans? You're a bigger idiot than I first thought. No wonder you're a Ron apPAULling® fan.

[Fire Watch]

Yup, and i responded below.

The clint eastwood attitute isn't right.
According to whom? You and your Ron aPAULogist® buddies?

[Fire Watch]

Yup, and i responded below, to him. (not you, as i respect your service, but not your childish attitute)

The clint eastwood attitute isn't right.
You think your "respect" matters to me? You insult another veterans service and expect your "respect" to garner some respect in return? Again, your statements show why Ron apPAULling® will never be a serious candidate, the majority of his supporters are idiots.

[Jedes]

I bet I know personally more Military members that agree with our stance than you know military members in total. You live in your little shelterd town and think you can speak for us veterans? You're a bigger idiot than I first thought. No wonder you're a Ron apPAULling® fan.


I've lived in a number of places.

no, you don't know me, or the number of military members i know. I know a fair few, but how i'd have any way of comparing to the number you know- lol. My family is full of vets, and thats why i chose to serve. I have a number of friends AND family in iraq.

I'm 28. needless to say, many of my military friends are younger and have served/are serving in Iraq/Afganistan. Perhaps you know many young servicemen as well. Either way, the general stance of the public is reflected in the military, in all surveys i've seen, and most importantly, in personal experience from young vets. And the public opposes the war- 60-70 percent.

[Jedes]

You think your "respect" matters to me? You insult another veterans service and expect your "respect" to garner some respect in return? Again, your statements show why Ron apPAULling® will never be a serious candidate, the majority of his supporters are idiots.

I worded it incorrectly, - was wrong, and apologize.

If he served in an action similar to policing the streets of bagdad, and truly believes we can take the agressive attitute in such a setting - then i disagree but respect him for being in a situation i never have. I was lucky to not be deployed to Iraq in 2003. I know those who have, so i can only base my view of things through their views, not my own.

[Fire Watch]

I've lived in a number of places.

no, you don't know me, or the number of military members i know. I know a fair few, but how i'd have any way of comparing to the number you know- lol. My family is full of vets, and thats why i chose to serve. I have a number of friends AND family in iraq.

I'm 28. needless to say, many of my military friends are younger and have served/are serving in Iraq/Afganistan. Perhaps you know many young servicemen as well. Either way, the general stance of the public is reflected in the military, in all surveys i've seen, and most importantly, in personal experience from young vets. And the public opposes the war- 60-70 percent.
Those numbers are complete ********. Especially if you're trying to say the military opposes the war 60-70%. If you're really trying to take that stance, it's time for you to close out your Ron apPAULling® websites, step away from the keyboard, and get a ****ing life..you're living in an alternate universe.

[johnrocks]

You think your "respect" matters to me? You insult another veterans service and expect your "respect" to garner some respect in return? Again, your statements show why Ron apPAULling® will never be a serious candidate, the majority of his supporters are idiots.

18891

[Fire Watch]

I worded it incorrectly, - was wrong, and apologize.

If he served in an action similar to policing the streets of bagdad, and truly believes we can take the agressive attitute in such a setting - then i disagree but respect him for being in a situation i never have. I was lucky to not be deployed to Iraq in 2003. I know those who have, so i can only base my view of things through their views, not my own.
Well how about basing it on MY views, (after figuring out how to use a ****ing spellcheck). I've been in Afghanistan and Iraq. I lost friends and Brothers in both places..hell, even got injured myself. Why doesn't my view matter??? Oh, that's right..it's because I'm not a Ron aPAULogist® pacifist, isolationist, coward.

[Fire Watch]

18891
Luckily for you John, you're a minority.

[tha malcontent™]

Are there still People who Honestly Feel that Ron Paul has a Snowball's Chance in Hell of doing anything but Running as an Independent and getting HILLARY! in Office?...

He ain'ts gettin' the REPUBLICan Nomination...

Not unless all of the other Nominees Die in the same Plane Crash.

Even then, the Party would put someone else up and Continue to Shot Spitballs at the back of Paul's Head... ;)

:)

peace...

[johnrocks]

Are there still People who Honestly Feel that Ron Paul has a Snowball's Chance in Hell of doing anything but Running as an Independent and getting HILLARY! in Office?...

He ain'ts gettin' the REPUBLICan Nomination...

Not unless all of the other Nominees Die in the same Plane Crash.

Even then, the Party would put someone else up and Continue to Shot Spitballs at the back of Paul's Head... ;)

:)

peace...

If the Republicans lose next year,it will be because a majority of voters did not buy their message,not because of a third party candidate.

I promise I will vote for the person who comes closest to my beliefs.

Less Government,less taxes and regulations,strong defense,anti gun control,anti socialized medicine,humble foreign policy. I will vote for that person,not the R,D or I beside their name.

[Jedes]

Those numbers are complete ********. Especially if you're trying to say the military opposes the war 60-70%. If you're really trying to take that stance, it's time for you to close out your Ron apPAULling® websites, step away from the keyboard, and get a ****ing life..you're living in an alternate universe.

The populatuion is largely opposed to the war. The numbers tend to fall bewteen 60-70 percent, depending on how the question is worded.

If you ask the military from a biased hannity viewpoint, "Should we lose in iraq?" - of course most will not say yes. If you ask whether military/ex military support nation building, the media reports say we reflect the general population. If i base it on personal experience, as i've illustrated to you, then yes, most young vets i know disagree with our actions in the middle east.

thanks

[Jedes]

Well how about basing it on MY views, (after figuring out how to use a ****ing spellcheck). I've been in Afghanistan and Iraq. I lost friends and Brothers in both places..hell, even got injured myself. Why doesn't my view matter??? Oh, that's right..it's because I'm not a Ron aPAULogist® pacifist, isolationist, coward.

you're view matters of course. But you are in the minority.

[Fire Watch]

The populatuion is largely opposed to the war. The numbers tend to fall bewteen 60-70 percent, depending on how the question is worded.

If you ask the military from a biased hannity viewpoint, "Should we lose in iraq?" - of course most will not say yes. Most wouldn't fall for such a ridiculously worded question.

If you ask whether military/ex military support nation building,
Another ridiculously biased and ignorant question. Most military members I know would look at the questioner with disdain and tell them to go get ****ed.

[Fire Watch]

you're view matters of course. But you are in the minority.
I am in the overwhelming majority. The fact that you believe the military population by majority percentage opposes this war shows that you're "research" is severely lacking. You either base you #'s solely on pure propaganda ******** from Ron aPAULogist® websites, or you're simply disingenuous.

[gwhughes]

Most wouldn't fall for such a ridiculously worded question.


Another ridiculously biased and ignorant question. Most military members I know would look at the questioner with disdain and tell them to go get ****ed.

If I may Rick?

The reason the question is ignorant is because when a military member is asked "are you opposed to nation building?" The questioner is basically accusing the military member of nation building and not defending this country. Why not ask him/her are they opposed to defending this country from islamo-facism?

[Jedes]

I am in the overwhelming majority. The fact that you believe the military population by majority percentage opposes this war shows that you're "research" is severely lacking. You either base you #'s solely on pure propaganda ******** from Ron aPAULogist® websites, or you're simply disingenuous.


No, you are in the minority if you word the question fairly, and not based on slanting it as

- "should we pull out in defeat?"
-"should we win the war on terror?"


if the question is "do you disagree with our policy in iraq? and "do you feel we should continue or policy in iraq?" then you are in the minority. If all the other data is flawed, then from personal experience alone. Yes, that is flawed of course. I'm only one person, only 28, and only served 6 years in the guards. But thats the trend i see.

Thanks.

[Jedes]

If I may Rick?

The reason the question is ignorant is because when a military member is asked "are you opposed to nation building?" The questioner is basically accusing the military member of nation building and not defending this country. Why not ask him/her are they opposed to defending this country from islamo-facism?

Sorry, that was a bad example that is just as tilted as your flawed example.

"are you opposed to defending this country from islamo facism" = silly question.


if the question is "do you agree/disagree with our policy in iraq? and "do you feel we should continue or policy in iraq?" then you are in the minority.

[Fire Watch]

Let's make it easy then. Watch the forum for the poll.

[Fire Watch]

Here's the poll to watch. http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=360201

[Jedes]

Let's make it easy then. Watch the forum for the poll.

lol.

Don't be silly. This forum is called "hannity.com".

the results are no more valid than a poll on moveon.org

[Fire Watch]

lol.

Don't be silly. This forum is called "hannity.com".

the results are no more valid than a poll on moveon.org
Silly? Please..the forum is split about 60/40 Con/Lib...No more silly than you getting your #'s from a Ron apPAULling® site and thinking they're valid or carry any weight.

[gwhughes]

This forum does have a variety of members dim-con.

[Fire Watch]

lol.

Don't be silly. This forum is called "hannity.com".

the results are no more valid than a poll on moveon.org
Here's the dirty little secret you choose to ignore. Most military members are conservatives cut from the same cloth as those conservatives that make up the membership of this board.

[Jedes]

Silly? Please..the forum is split about 60/40 Con/Lib...No more silly than you getting your #'s from a Ron apPAULling® site and thinking they're valid or carry any weight.


1) your estimation of the "split" on this forum is just as inaccurate as my estimation of military vets for/against iraq. It's based on personal experience, and a reasonable conclusion can be made (majority/minority), but it's still a personal observation, and flawed.

2) are you implying hannity.com forum users reasonably respresent the overall population well?

general population
- internet user
---internet user interested in politics enough to post often on a conservative forum.

3) I base the 60-70 percent from mainstream media polls. Which Ron Paul sites are you refering to? Hannity.com is the only forum im currently registered in dealing with politics. And the only forum i've posted in much in the past few years. I heard about Ron Paul from a student, and started liking/supporting him only recently. I've visited his website and made a donation. But I've never seen these types of polls you are refering to.

thanks.

[Fire Watch]

1) your estimation of the "split" on this forum is just as inaccurate as my estimation of military vets for/against iraq. It's based on personal experience, and a reasonable conclusion can be made (majority/minority), but it's still a personal observation, and flawed. It is NOT flawed. My experience and knowledge about these forums outweigh yours just as much as my experience and knowledge regarding the military does. There's no comparison.

2) are you implying hannity.com forum users reasonably respresent the overall population well? Yes, absolutely.

I base the 60-70 percent from mainstream media polls.Well there ya go then..we all know the mainstream media has absolutely NO bias.

[Jedes]

1) personal experience is not scientific, no matter how desperately you wish it to be so. I never claimed to be a military expert, or war expert, but i served for six years, am from a military family, and have many many vetern/current military friends. How this compares to yours i do not know. I never said you didn't know these boards well, but throwing out an arbitrary number (60/40) is NOT scientific.

If you taught on a university all your life, you could perhaps say "well, i think the liberal/conservative split is 60/40", but that doesn't make it so - its a personal observation with a wide range of error.

2) Hannity.com doesn't represent the general population, anymore than dailykoz. It's a political website. It's biased to:

- internet user (young outweight the old to a certain extent, other factors may bias this group)
---internet user interested in politics enough to post often on a conservative forum.

3) Mainstream media does certainly have bias i totally agree. However, 60-70 percent is a fairly broad range (10%) plus range of error. Even if its off by 15%, the majority in these polls are against iraq. Now, many believe the libs won in 2006 over this issue. Is this not a reflection of the majority being frustrated and wanting an end to the war?

[Fire Watch]

No, it is a reflection of questions being biased, the wording being biased, and those interpreting the results being biased. Nothing more.

[Fire Watch]

76.92% according to the poll support the war..those are Military members, former and current. The "No" votes were libs and Ron apPAULling® supporters. I think it's time for you to do some soul searching.

[gwhughes]

Moot, he's gone. http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=13779611&postcount=3

[Fire Watch]

Damn.

[tha malcontent™]

If the Republicans lose next year,it will be because a majority of voters did not buy their message,not because of a third party candidate.

I promise I will vote for the person who comes closest to my beliefs.

Less Government,less taxes and regulations,strong defense,anti gun control,anti socialized medicine,humble foreign policy. I will vote for that person,not the R,D or I beside their name.

Voting for Someone who Can't Win is a Vote for Something LESS than you Want...

You will get HILLARY! if you Vote for a "More Conservative" Third Party Candidate.

Live in Reality...

:)

peace...

[johnrocks]

Voting for Someone who Can't Win is a Vote for Something LESS than you Want...

You will get HILLARY! if you Vote for a "More Conservative" Third Party Candidate.

Live in Reality...

:)

peace...

I do live in reality, Bush lost to Clinton because his message just wasn't strong enough to get the votes that went to Perot, the same goes for Gore with the Nader vote, I have voted for the Republican nominee for close to thirty years(Reagan)and it has gotten us to exactly the point where we are at! Sometimes we need to send politicians a message even though the medicine will taste bad for a few years,no I am sick of being taken for granted by my party, I will vote my principles from noe on even if I am the only vote he gets or if the Republican nominee loses. It will be their fault not mine.

[tha malcontent™]

I do live in reality, Bush lost to Clinton because his message just wasn't strong enough to get the votes that went to Perot, the same goes for Gore with the Nader vote, I have voted for the Republican nominee for close to thirty years(Reagan)and it has gotten us to exactly the point where we are at! Sometimes we need to send politicians a message even though the medicine will taste bad for a few years,no I am sick of being taken for granted by my party, I will vote my principles from noe on even if I am the only vote he gets or if the Republican nominee loses. It will be their fault not mine.

There will be no Message Sent, as there wasn't with Clinton's 43% Win, but hey, if it makes you Feel good, go with it!

:)

peace...

[fawnknudsen]

Ron Paul is the only candidate that makes sense.

[tha malcontent™]

Ron Paul is the only candidate that makes sense.

Makes Sense like the Donkey's Game Plan yesterday @ Mile High!... ;)

:)

peace...

[DiveCon]

Makes Sense like the Donkey's Game Plan yesterday @ Mile High!... ;)

:)

peace...
yeah, that did about as well as wRong aPauling will do when the votes actually come in

[johnrocks]

There will be no Message Sent, as there wasn't with Clinton's 43% Win, but hey, if it makes you Feel good, go with it!

:)

peace...

The way politics is now being played it certainly doesn't make me feel BETTER by keep voting for the one who may do the less damage to us. I did that with Bush Jr. twice and all I got to show for it is paying a little less in taxes and a couple of good SCOTUS nominees.

[Fire Watch]

The way politics is now being played it certainly doesn't make me feel BETTER by keep voting for the one who may do the less damage to us. I did that with Bush Jr. twice and all I got to show for it is paying a little less in taxes and a couple of good SCOTUS nominees.
That "little less in taxes" did a whole lot of good though John. So will those Scotus appointments. There are more Scotus appointments on the horizon. Those decisions will be vital to the future of this Nation. I'm sorry, I cant **** those away as nothing.

[gdoane]

That "little less in taxes" did a whole lot of good though John. So will those Scotus appointments. There are more Scotus appointments on the horizon. Those decisions will be vital to the future of this Nation. I'm sorry, I cant **** those away as nothing.

The next few years will be vital to swing the Supreme Court around to the right. Three of the Justices are over 70 years old and one is well over 80 years old.


John Paul Stevens: 87 Years old
Ruth Bader Ginsburg: 74 Years old
Antonin Scalia: 71 Years old
Anthony Kennedy: 71 Years old
Steven Breyer: 69 Years old
David Souter: 68 Years old
Clarence Thomas: 59 Years old
Samuel Alito: 57 Years old
John Roberts: 52 Years old


Whoever wins the 2008 election is probably going to be nominating at least two Supreme Court Justices. William Rehnquist was 81 years old when he died, and Sandra Day O'Connor was 76 when she retired so there are plenty of Justices getting in that ballpark of either stepping down or otherwise becoming unfit for service.

Of the 70+ aged Justices, only Scalia is a real conservative. The other three are stark raving liberals. Replacing them with liberals changes nothing but if we can replace them with conservatives we can start getting sane decisions out of the courts again.

[Justice]

That "little less in taxes" did a whole lot of good though John. So will those Scotus appointments. There are more Scotus appointments on the horizon. Those decisions will be vital to the future of this Nation. I'm sorry, I cant **** those away as nothing.

Our candidate is all for WAY less taxes and strict construction.

[DiveCon]

Our candidate is all for WAY less taxes and strict construction.
and he stand ZERO chance to win
because he is a KOOK that is a huge hypocrite

[Justice]

and he stand ZERO chance to win
because he is a KOOK that is a huge hypocrite

:))

Check your own candidate, dude... if you spent half as much time supporting him as you do attacking Paul, maybe HE would stand a chance...

[gdoane]

Our candidate is all for WAY less taxes and strict construction.

Which might mean something if the job of the President were to interpret and explain the law but that's actually the job of the Supreme Court. Your candidate is applying for the wrong job.

It might mean something if the job of the President were to lay and collect taxes, but that's actually the job of Congress. Your candidate is again applying for the wrong job.

I don't think Ron Paul supporters could actually describe the job of the President of the USA. Ron Paul sure as heck can't do it. :eh:

[DiveCon]

:))

Check your own candidate, dude... if you spent half as much time supporting him as you do attacking Paul, maybe HE would stand a chance...
my candidate might not stand a chance, but he isnt a kook nor a hypocrite
:hand:

[herefsihy]

Ron Paul thinks that you can take your chocolate milk... and stick it up your ***!


Kindest Regards,

Mark

[Average Joe From Texas]

my candidate might not stand a chance, but he isnt a kook nor a hypocrite
:hand:

And yet you don't know his stand on chocolate milk, do you?

[DiveCon]

And yet you don't know his stand on chocolate milk, do you?
nope, i can't drink chocolate milk

;)

[Average Joe From Texas]

nope, i can't drink chocolate milk

;)

So then, basically, you're telling me that chocolate milk isn't one of your hot button issues? Let's try this another way.

If the glass were 50% filled with chocolate milk, would Ron Paul admit that chocolate is an evil compound that was only unleashed in order to facilitate the integration of the communists into society?

[Fire Watch]

Ron Paul thinks that you can take your chocolate milk... and stick it up your ***!


Kindest Regards,

Mark
Paul cant wipe his own ass without ASSisstance..what business is it of his to tell me what to stick up mine?

[Average Joe From Texas]

Paul cant wipe his own ass without ASSisstance..what business is it of his to tell me what to stick up mine?

Not touching that one.......not gonna go there......not me....nope!!

:snooty: :redface: :snooty: :redface: :snooty: :redface:

[tobybear]

And yet you don't know his stand on chocolate milk, do you?

DR! Pauls stand on chocolate milk is that if he practices standing on chocolate milk enough, eventually he will be able to walk on chocolate milk! Thus fulfilling the prophesies of his supporters!

[DiveCon]

Ron Paul thinks that you can take your chocolate milk... <edited possible civility rule violation>


Kindest Regards,

Mark
hmmm, does that pass the new civility rules?
:think:

[Fire Watch]

Didnt he report me and this thread for basically the same thing? HyPAULcrisy®, but hey, he is a Ron apPAULling® supporter..what do you expect?

[Fire Watch]

60 posts to go to hit the 2k mark.

[Average Joe From Texas]

Rick,

I thought of you today while reading a local story. As a Corpsman early in life, I was hurt to read that a young man, son of a retired judge, had volunteered for a tour in Afghanistan as an FMF Corpsman and that he will be buried here at home tomorrow.

Some people just don't understand what it says about a guy who joins the Navy, learns to help people and then volunteers to go into combat with the Marines.

"The Marine already have their few good men......Navy Corpsmen!!" ..... used to bring a smile to my face.....maybe not so much anymore.

LINK (http://www.lubbockonline.com/updates/update5.shtml)

[Wookinstien]

Paulettes, the most pathetic name in politics presents:
the ADVENTURES OF RON PAUL!
Older than an Egyptian Mummy!
Less Popular than Lyndon LaRouche!
Able to creep voters out with a single word!
LOOK! Down In The Polls!
It's a Loser! It's Voter Kryptonite! It's RON PAUL, MAN!!
Yes, it's Ron Paul, strange libertarian from another party pretending to be GOP
with promises and rhetoric far beneath those of sensible men!
RON PAUL! Who can get kicked out of debates, poll in the single digits and who,
disguised as a Republican Candidate,
Lunatic side story for all who believe the Republican Party is crazy,
fights a never-ending battle for Truth, Justice, and all the Internet Campaign Donations he can get!
And now, another exciting episode in the ADVENTURES OF RON PAUL!!

:)):))
Damn Gene, my engineering department is tired of replacing my diet coke drenched Computer monitors!

:)):clap::clap:

[Jebster]

Ron Paul...leader of the brainless...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/darth_nighttrain/Paulettes/rpzero.jpg

[Jebster]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/darth_nighttrain/Paulettes/rp-Sheep.jpg

[Jebster]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/darth_nighttrain/Paulettes/rp-surrender.jpg

[DiveCon]

:)):))
Damn Gene, my engineering department is tired of replacing my diet coke drenched Computer monitors!

:)):clap::clap:
LOL stop drinking diet coke
;)

[Wookinstien]

LOL stop drinking diet coke
;)

What? Give up my only vice? :surprised


They need to plastic wrap the monitors I say!

[DiveCon]

What? Give up my only vice? :surprised


They need to plastic wrap the monitors I say!
well, while you are working
;)

[Fire Watch]

nice pics..lol

[tha malcontent™]

The way politics is now being played it certainly doesn't make me feel BETTER by keep voting for the one who may do the less damage to us. I did that with Bush Jr. twice and all I got to show for it is paying a little less in taxes and a couple of good SCOTUS nominees.

Voting for someone who doesn't have a Chance of doing anything but getting the MORE Liberal Candidate in Office, is a Self-Destructive Exercise...

If it's done only to Stroke One's Ego...

It's Clinical.

I am with many of you on many Issue in Spirit, but as I have said many Times...

I do not Reside in the Spirit World, I Live in a Political Reality.

Jumping up and down like a Child Holding One's Breath because the System doesn't Cater Directly to you, is no way to go through Life...

And it sets a Bad Example of how to Deal with Real Life Situations for any Impressionable People who may be Observing.

But Please, don't let me Iterrupt the Emoting...

Keep wagging the Finger at the System and saying "Bad System, Bad!"...

Vote for a 3rd Party Conservative and in Reality you will be Voting for HILLARY!...

Then you can Spend the following (4) Years Knowing your Assisted in that, and in now way was a Message sent to anyone Except the Majority of the Mainstream Media that HILLARY!'s Liberal Policies are what America REALLY Wanted...

Democratic Jon Tester 199,845 49.2%
Republican Conrad Burns (incumbent) 196,283 48.3%
Libertarian Stan Jones 10,377 2.6%

^Yeah, America got the Message...

"DemocRATS Win Senate".

^That was the Message.

You "Independent" and "Libertarian" Anarchists are Harmful to the Process...

:)

peace...

[Thanatos144]

I can't wait till the end of the primaries. Then maybe We can stop hearibng all the praises of Of Paul. Well untill he switches parties again and runs as a libertarian.

[Fire Watch]

I wont be surprised.

[Thanatos144]

What surprise is there? Of course Paul will show his true colors after he loses the nom. He will then run third party even though he said he wouldn't. All the pathetic Paulites will then follow him and the ones old enough to voter will vote third party. Will it be enough to win hillary the vote? I dont know. I guess it depends on how many Paulites are of legal voteing age.

[Fire Watch]

He's a hyPAULcrit®, we know that much.

[Conservative Okie]

I can't wait till the end of the primaries. Then maybe We can stop hearibng all the praises of Of Paul. Well untill he switches parties again and runs as a libertarian.

the whining won't go away. It will get worse from them once we find out who the nomineee will be. They will attack the nominee incessantly and tell us how wrong they are. etc. etc.

[inca]

Jeez, Then you complaint people are Bush Haters.

[Fire Watch]

Complain you mean?

[Wookinstien]

Do you think the 'Ron" would like chocolate covered shrimp?

[Fire Watch]

I wonder if he would like my sigpic?

[Conservative Okie]

I wonder if he would like my sigpic?

nice. :D

[cshoff]

the whining won't go away. It will get worse from them once we find out who the nomineee will be. They will attack the nominee incessantly and tell us how wrong they are. etc. etc.

:))Kinda like what you all are doing to Ron Paul?:))

[Fire Watch]

:))Kinda like what you all are doing to Ron Paul?:))
Ron apPAULling® is nothing. He will not get the GOP nomination. He will not become president. After the convention, if not before, he will be back in his hole somewhere. It's the Ron aPAULogist® retreading, trolling, idiotic dip****s that get on our nerves.

[Wookinstien]

Ron apPAULling® is nothing. He will not get the GOP nomination. He will not become president. After the convention, if not before, he will be back in his hole somewhere. It's the Ron aPAULogist® retreading, trolling, idiotic dip****s that get on our nerves.

+infinity

[Fire Watch]

thank you thank you

[Army Wife]

:think:
Hey Rick now that its getting cold can we have that chocolate milk heated up some...?

[Fire Watch]

Hot Chocolate it is!!!!

[Army Wife]

Hot Chocolate it is!!!!

WOO HOO! Fill my Bubba Keg!

[alienpyro]

Fred Thompson is amazing

[DiveCon]

Fred Thompson is amazing
retreaded so quick eh?

[Remus Lupin]

Fred Thompson is amazing

Can't say the same for you, retread!

[Fire Watch]

Like moths to a flame..

[Fire Watch]

Speaking of flamers...where's the nightly aPAULogist® rallly?

[Thanatos144]

Speaking of flamers...where's the nightly aPAULogist® rallly?

Looking for some Nesquick. :))

[Mr. M]

Speaking of flamers...where's the nightly aPAULogist® rallly?

Well, to be fair...


it is a school night.

[Average Joe From Texas]

Ok....Now let's change this up.

How does Ron Paul feel about Milk Chocolate?

[Fire Watch]

Well, to be fair...


it is a school night.
Good point.

[ancient]

Does Ron Paul have any other mode? Seems like his switch is stuck on "whine" and his voice is stuck in this high whiny pitch. I'm just waiting for 8 tears to start running down each of his cheeks whenever I watch him speak. Not to mention he looks like he just ate 5,000 lemons, he has no personality. Seems like this guy would probably make a good addition to a team of advisors for that devil's advocate factor to keep the balance, but certainly not president, in my opinion.

[Fire Watch]

Trotskyite.

[jeeper4391]

Biased poll. You sir fail

[Fire Watch]

English, we sir it speak.

[Wookinstien]

Biased poll. You sir fail

Hang on a sec.

[Dives in a phone booth and emerges as}

CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!

:shhh: The poll is for fun....

[Average Joe From Texas]

Wait a minute.....I just now discovered the evil plot here! The original OP is anti-Cow!!!

This is just wrong. I personally adore cows, especially medium rare!!

:)

[Fire Watch]

Me too..anything more than medium rare is burnt..anything less that 18oz is jerking me around and will get you slapped.

[werdd]

Chocolate milk should be a decision made on the local level. It is at the most importance that the federal goverment stays out of this.

I can play along, RON PAUL 2008!

[Fire Watch]

RP just likes milk for the udder play.

[jeepers]

English, we sir it speak.

Not only that, chocolate milk poll, humour it be.

[Fire Watch]

Dude almost has the same ID as you.. I thought it WAS you at first....hmm think on this I will

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/reconrick/yodachillin_small.jpg

[jeepers]

Dude almost has the same ID as you.. I thought it WAS you at first....hmm think on this I will

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/reconrick/yodachillin_small.jpg





Slightly annoyed about that I was, but internet, it is.

[ThrowCop]

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p20/ThrowCop/RP-NoWay.gif

[Fire Watch]

Hilarious.

[Conservative Okie]

hmmmm,

Ron Pork ?
Ron Poll ?
Wrong Stall ?

[GetItRight]

hmmmm,
Wrong Stall ?Leave Senator Craig out of this.

[Fire Watch]

wah wah wah......someone get this guy a new writer.

[Thanatos144]

And today the glorius Ron Paul raised the dead. Oh sorry thats just him in the morning.

[Liability]

And today the glorius Ron Paul raised the dead. Oh sorry thats just him in the morning.


LOL!

Wow.

Easy mistake to make.

But a damned funny observation.

:mrgreen:

[Fire Watch]

I hear they have to kick start him every morning.

[Thanatos144]

I hear they have to kick start him every morning.

Wouldnt you just love to have that job? (shudder)

[Conservative Okie]

hmmmm :think:

2,000 posts.

and the paulettes keep on coming ...

[bella-day]

Darn it! I thought I was going to get to post the 2000th!

Foiled again.

Oh uh...punch flavored buttermilk decorated with tiny umbrellas manufactured by illegals.

Paul's drink of choice.:mrgreen:

[Conservative Okie]

Darn it! I thought I was going to get to post the 2000th!

Foiled again.

Oh uh...punch flavored buttermilk decorated with tiny umbrellas manufactured by illegals.

Paul's drink of choice.:mrgreen:

:sick:

[Fire Watch]

2000 posts..outstanding!