"Open Season" the Movie is Offensively Agendized and Stereotyping...

[tha malcontent™]

"Open Season"... On Whites Males.

By: tha malcontent 05.10.2007

"Open Season" the Movie is Offensively Agendized and Stereotyping... The Redneck who runs down the Deer, if it were Reversed and it was say, a Black Woman who Runs down a White Homeless Man and leaves him Impaled in her Windshield to Die and brings Men she's Bedding out to View his Death in her Garage while they Party, well that would be... Something that actually Happened in Real Life that was all but Ignored by the Media when Compared with a Whore Lying about Rape @ Duke.

The Larger Point is that Negatively Stereotyping White People, Specifically Males as that Movie did, and then Directing it at Children, is Concerning.

The Assumed White Male was the Bad Guy... Redneck with a Gun in a Truck, Driving Recklessly, Harming Nature and Targeting Defenseless Innocent Animals outside of the Proper Hunting Season with a Mean Old Gas Guzzling Truck, and in general more of an Animal than the Animals in the Film.

As all White Male Hunters are, of course.

The Woman was a Nature Loving, Hunter Hating, Tree-Hugger who was Obviously one of the Good Guys... The Husbandless Mother Figure of the Film, because God Forbid we show "Daddies" to Children.

The Sheriff was not Falling Down Drunk at the Bar, as many Indians are, but we'll Save the Negative Stereotyping for the White Male with the Gun... No, our Fearless and Wise Sheriff was a Respectable Man, not what I saw in Billings Montana everytime I Visited.... Again, we'll Save the Negative Stereotyping for the Evil White Man.

Anyway, I didn't Finish it because it was also not Entertaining and I Fell Asleep.

I Hope I am not the only one who Finds that Film Offensive, considering it's Target Audience... Children. The same Children we are trying NOT to Enforce Stereotypes to, I would Assume.

One other part of this Film that I don't like, and it's not Exclusive to this Children's Film by any Stretch, is the Humanizing of Animals.

Bears Eat Children.

They are not your Friends...

They are not Pets...

They don't Pal around with Deer...

They Kill Humans every single time they get the Chance, End of ****ing List.

Anyway... That's my Take on that Dime a Dozen Kumputeranimitized Flim... Yes, Flim.

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peace...

[tha malcontent™]

OK... I Fixed some Errors in that Rant.

Now maybe it's Acceptable.

I was as Busy as I was Tired yesterday, Damn it! ;)

:)

peace...

[Fire Watch]

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[tha malcontent™]

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Hey Boo-Boo!...

What's in the Pic-a-nic Basket?

:)

peace...

[lesterge]

"Open Season"... On Whites Males.

By: tha malcontent 05.10.2007

"Open Season" the Movie is Offensively Agendized and Stereotyping... The Redneck who runs down the Deer, if it were Reversed and it was say, a Black Woman who Runs down a White Homeless Man and leaves him Impaled in her Windshield to Die and brings Men she's Bedding out to View his Death in her Garage while they Party, well that would be... Something that actually Happened in Real Life that was all but Ignored by the Media when Compared with a Whore Lying about Rape @ Duke.

Mal, all kidding aside - re-read what you wrote. I'm not joking, being sarcastic or partisan in the slightest when I say that it comes across as very disturbing.

[JediMindTrick]

:rolleyes:

Holy over analyzing a kids movie Batman.


I took my kids to see it at the movie. For a kids movie it was pretty enjoyable. And never once during the whole movie did I find it political.

Once its again a case of someone wanting to find bias so they find it in everything.

[Joeybear23]

Mal, all kidding aside - re-read what you wrote. I'm not joking, being sarcastic or partisan in the slightest when I say that it comes across as very disturbing.

That really happened, just a few miles from where I work.

[Sisupala]

Hey Boo-Boo!...

What's in the Pic-a-nic Basket?

:)

peace...
Boo Boo: What about the ranger, Yogi?

Yogi: Let the ranger get his own pic-a-nic basket! :)

[noose4]

speedy gonzalez is a stereotypical mexican mouse!!!!! warner brothers hires illegals to star in their cartoons!!!!!

[tha malcontent™]

That really happened, just a few miles from where I work.

It Sho did!...

Liberals don't Travel Far outside of their Packs and Comfort Zones, DJB! ;)

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peace...

[flores_in_texas]

:rolleyes:

Holy over analyzing a kids movie Batman.


I took my kids to see it at the movie. For a kids movie it was pretty enjoyable. And never once during the whole movie did I find it political.

Once its again a case of someone wanting to find bias so they find it in everything.

I haven't seen the movie in question, but I know what you mean about over-analyzing a kids movie. Whenever we watched Over the Hedge, I thought it was a funny kid-friendly animation. Others however said it was a veiled attempt at pointing out the illegal immigration problem.

I missed that part I guess.

[mdk190]

Not another woe is whitey thread.

[lesterge]

Not another woe is whitey thread.

True, but there's a certain tone in this one...I don't know, it goes beyond the norm.

[tha malcontent™]

True, but there's a certain tone in this one...I don't know, it goes beyond the norm.

Oh (w)ise one, please, Expand on this "tone" thing you are Speaking of.

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peace...

[lesterge]

Oh (w)ise one, please, Expand on this "tone" thing you are Speaking of.

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peace...

Mal, not looking to get into an argument here. I just ask you re-read your post.

[tha malcontent™]

Mal, not looking to get into an argument here. I just ask you re-read your post.

Um... If you didn't Notice, I Posted it last night...

ReRead it this Find Colorado Rocky Mountain Spring Mornin', and made some Adjustments...

What more could you Possibly be wanting After the Fact?...

If the Redneck in that Film was a Black NEGATIVE Stereotype instead of the Cracker Stereotype that was Presented, $harpton et al would have been ****ing themselves, and you Know it!

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[Mimiheart]

speedy gonzalez is a stereotypical mexican mouse!!!!! warner brothers hires illegals to star in their cartoons!!!!!And the Lion King is all about how people in the ghetto want to ruin the rest of the world!

[nortman]

And the Lion King is all about how people in the ghetto want to ruin the rest of the world!:question: I hadn't heard that one.......wow.

[Mimiheart]

:question: I hadn't heard that one.......wow.You hadn't? Apparently because all of the people who played Hyenas were minorities, there was an uproar that it was about what would happen if people in the ghetto were to have power and how they should stay in the shadows. Or something.

[lesterge]

ReRead it this Find Colorado Rocky Mountain Spring Mornin', and made some Adjustments...

What more could you Possibly be wanting After the Fact?...


Mal, it's the level of venom/paranoia spewing from the review...not typos or factual errors. You can get your point across without getting to the level of "disturbing rant".

[lesterge]

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The Assumed White Male was the Bad Guy... Redneck with a Gun in a Truck, Driving Recklessly, Harming Nature and Targeting Defenseless Innocent Animals outside of the Proper Hunting Season

By the way, are you suggesting this stock character hasn't been around for generations?

[nortman]

You hadn't? Apparently because all of the people who played Hyenas were minorities, there was an uproar that it was about what would happen if people in the ghetto were to have power and how they should stay in the shadows. Or something.
Hadn't thought of that. Hmm, maybe we need to boycott Whoopie Goldberg and Cheech Marin. Actually, I make a joke out of it, but it is kind of sad. Whoever it was got miffed at Disney for the characters, yet they say nothing about the actors who did the voices. Whoopie Goldberg and Cheech Marin didn't really need the job, they weren't actually starving. They are high profile stars, yet they took the parts without complaint. why didn't they get called out for it as well?

[tha malcontent™]

Mal, it's the level of venom/paranoia spewing from the review...not typos or factual errors. You can get your point across without getting to the level of "disturbing rant".

You Thought that was a Rant?...

Here's a Rant!...

Man charged with removing body from windshield

Associated Press Writer JULY 17, 07:25 ET (Original post July 2, by CNN/AP)

FORT WORTH, Texas (AP) — A man has been charged with evidence tampering in the death of a homeless man who authorities say was hit by a car and left lodged in the windshield until he died.

(ap) - Ain't "Nuthin' but a "G" Thang" AP III! The last time that I checked, Chante Mallard admitted to the FACT that she was responsible, so that would not make it an accusation on the part of authorities, it would make it what actually happened AP! For clarification, Chante and this thug who helped her, are BLACK! I know the "Free Press" will not make an issue of the race of the accused or the victim, so I will! If the scenario in which this pre-meditated murder (in my opinion) happened, but the race and gender roles were reversed, this is how the "Free Press" would still be reporting on this today: "A White man, Gregory Biggs, with rumored ties to White Supremacist groups, ran down a young, Black, homeless woman in March, leaving her impaled in his windshield, bleeding to death and begging for her life over a period of days, while Mr. Biggs showed her off to visitors and even had sex with a woman while Miss Mallard was left to die in his garage. Later, one of his accomplices helped him to dispose of the body and they began to dispose of the evidence, including the car, before Mr. Biggs', bragging about the incident at a party, led police to him and subsequently to his arrest and indictment for murder." I am waiting for the example that will directly compare to this story for the proof that I need that the AP is racist, and so is the rest of the "Free Press" as they follow the AP's lead and continue to bury this story about this Black murderer! When I get it, and I will, I may sue the AP myself! - tha malcontent)

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(Buried AP Photo of "Accused/Admitted" Black Killer, Chante Mallard and her White Victim, Gregory Biggs.(Source: Foxnews.com)

According to an indictment, Clete Jackson removed the man's body from the car and dumped him in a park to try to conceal the hit-and-run.

("You in some trouble Clete!"... Of course, not with the "Free Press"! - tha malcontent)

A friend of his, Chante Mallard, 26, allegedly told police she was returning from a nightclub October 26 when she hit the homeless man. She said she was scared and drove home with him in the windshield.

(Note the sympathetic tone the AP has towards this admitted murderer! SHE LEFT HIM TO DIE BLEEDING FOR DAYS WHILE SHE HAD SEX AND PARTIED AP! - tha malcontent)

Chante Mallard faces murder and evidence tampering charges.

("Faces" and WILL be convicted of such, guaranteed! - tha malcontent)

Jackson, 27, was arrested June 21 after a Tarrant County grand jury returned the indictment. He remained jailed Tuesday on nearly $106,000 bail. His attorney, William Harris, declined to comment, citing a gag order.

(Chante's attorney claimed that she was not "the monster" that the prosecution was making her out to be... Must not be a gag order on that case eh! - tha malcontent)

Mallard was indicted in April for murder and evidence tampering in the death of Gregory Biggs, 37, a former bricklayer living in a homeless shelter. She remains jailed on $250,000 bail.

(Where is all of the excessive personal information about Miss Mallard AP? You'd be singing a different tune if she was a man... and a Cracker-ass-cracker! We'd know that there was potentially racist materials found in his apartment and such! The "Free Press" reported that very thing about a mass murderer a year or so ago the same day he was taken into custody... He was White, of course! - tha malcontent)

A tipster came forward months later and told police Mallard had talked and laughed about the alleged hit-and-run while at a party.

(Here's a slightly different view of the incident that the ap originally posted back in March while the AP chose to ignore it... "According to an arrest warrant affidavit released Thursday, the woman who tipped off police said she, Mallard and several other women were at a party Feb. 15 when Mallard brought up the accident. In recounting how she hit a man while driving under the influence of alcohol and ecstasy, Mallard giggled and remarked that after the accident she had sex with a friend at her home, the affidavit says. According to the affidavit, Mallard told the women that she waited a couple of days for Biggs to die before two male friends removed his body and dumped it in Cobb Park. She said she planned to burn the car and buy a new one after she received her income tax refund, the affidavit says. Police who searched her house last week found the 1997 Chevrolet Cavalier still parked in the garage. Its two seats had been removed and were found in the back yard, one of them burned. - Dallas/Fort Worth Star-Telegram. Interesting, isn't it! - tha malcontent)

Authorities say Biggs could have survived with medical attention.

(That's what they say! Don't look for this story in your evening news casts when she is found guilty, it won't be there! It would be racist for the "Free Press" to cover this story. Just as it is racist for me to! 400+ years of oppression, and I have to just keep piling it on like the bigot that I am! Have a nice day! - tha malcontent)

Now that's a Rant!...

DJB was Correct, by the way.

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peace...

[tha malcontent™]

By the way, are you suggesting this stock character hasn't been around for generations?

I never Suggested any such thing!

:)

peace...

[Mimiheart]

Hadn't thought of that. Hmm, maybe we need to boycott Whoopie Goldberg and Cheech Marin. Actually, I make a joke out of it, but it is kind of sad. Whoever it was got miffed at Disney for the characters, yet they say nothing about the actors who did the voices. Whoopie Goldberg and Cheech Marin didn't really need the job, they weren't actually starving. They are high profile stars, yet they took the parts without complaint. why didn't they get called out for it as well? *Disclaimer, I don't think this is true, it's just an opportunity to make a BAD BAD joke.


Because, as minorities, they were too stupid to realize they were being taken advantage of...

[JediMindTrick]

Whats next?

Hispanics getting angry over the insult to their machismo that Antonio Banderas voices a character whose name has "Puss" in it and licks his butt during a scene in the last movie? And blacks getting made because Eddie Murphy has to voice a Donkey and we all know Donkeys are useless and lazy? And lets not leave whites out of it as Mike Myers and Cameron Diaz have to voice horrible Ogres and we all know Ogres are vicious, cruel, and killers. I'm not sure which race got the worst of it but I think I better get outraged anyway since the third installment of this obviously biased series is coming out in a few weeks.


(sarcasm off)

[grapabeaux]

To be fair, hunting in America seems to be a white male kind of thing.

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[tha malcontent™]

To be fair, hunting in America seems to be a white male kind of thing.

http://www.nonstick.com/sounds/Elmer.gif

You don't Know many Hispanics, do you?... ;)

:)

peace...

[tha malcontent™]

Whats next?

Hispanics getting angry over the insult to their machismo that Antonio Banderas voices a character whose name has "Puss" in it and licks his butt during a scene in the last movie? And blacks getting made because Eddie Murphy has to voice a Donkey and we all know Donkeys are useless and lazy? And lets not leave whites out of it as Mike Myers and Cameron Diaz have to voice horrible Ogres and we all know Ogres are vicious, cruel, and killers. I'm not sure which race got the worst of it but I think I better get outraged anyway since the third installment of this obviously biased series is coming out in a few weeks.


(sarcasm off)

You can use a Garden Hose for that Sand... ;)

If you don't like my Ranting, then Movealong.com.

:)

peace...

[Apatriot]

I haven't seen the movie in question, but I know what you mean about over-analyzing a kids movie. Whenever we watched Over the Hedge, I thought it was a funny kid-friendly animation. Others however said it was a veiled attempt at pointing out the illegal immigration problem.

I missed that part I guess.

I thought "Over the Hedge" was an environmental rant at the evils of suburbia.

[Apatriot]

By the way, are you suggesting this stock character hasn't been around for generations?

The stock character of the black Mammie, has also been around for generations. That doesn't make it any less racist.

[Apatriot]

Whats next?

Hispanics getting angry over the insult to their machismo that Antonio Banderas voices a character whose name has "Puss" in it and licks his butt during a scene in the last movie? And blacks getting made because Eddie Murphy has to voice a Donkey and we all know Donkeys are useless and lazy? And lets not leave whites out of it as Mike Myers and Cameron Diaz have to voice horrible Ogres and we all know Ogres are vicious, cruel, and killers. I'm not sure which race got the worst of it but I think I better get outraged anyway since the third installment of this obviously biased series is coming out in a few weeks.


(sarcasm off)

Cameron Diaz is Hispanic.

[lesterge]

The stock character of the black Mammie, has also been around for generations. That doesn't make it any less racist.

So you are offended by Elmer Fudd?

[Apatriot]

So you are offended by Elmer Fudd?

Of course. It's racist to all bald white men who hunt.....

[tha malcontent™]

So you are offended by Elmer Fudd?

A Question... What Road are you in the Middle of?...

You are Obviously Left of Center, but I'd like to Hear your Explanation.

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peace...

[lesterge]

A Question... What Road are you in the Middle of?...

You are Obviously Left of Center, but I'd like to Hear your Explanation.

:)

peace...


I'm left of center because I don't write scary rants screaming about African American crime and double-standards in a long-winded post detailing the political agenda contained within an animated children's film (made by white people) because I so desperately need to be the victim?

[tha malcontent™]

I'm left of center because I don't write scary rants screaming about African American crime and double-standards in a long-winded post detailing the political agenda contained within an animated children's film (made by white people) because I so desperately need to be the victim?

How long have been Under your Skin?... :))

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[Fire Watch]

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[tha malcontent™]

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You the Smarty ASSassin... ;)

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[tha malcontent™]

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^The Final Draft...

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peace...

[tha malcontent™]

Bumpdigity for the Weekend Warriors...

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peace...

[tha malcontent™]

"Open Season"... On Whites Males.

By: tha malcontent 05.10.2007

"Open Season" the Movie is Offensively Agendized and Stereotyping... The Redneck who runs down the Deer, if it were Reversed and it was say, a Black Woman who Runs down a White Homeless Man and leaves him Impaled in her Windshield to Die and brings Men she's Bedding out to View his Death in her Garage while they Party, well that would be... Something that actually Happened in Real Life that was all but Ignored by the Media when Compared with a Whore Lying about Rape @ Duke.

The Larger Point is that Negatively Stereotyping White People, Specifically Males as that Movie did, and then Directing it at Children, is Concerning.

The Assumed White Male was the Bad Guy... Redneck with a Gun in a Truck, Driving Recklessly, Harming Nature and Targeting Defenseless Innocent Animals outside of the Proper Hunting Season with a Mean Old Gas Guzzling Truck, and in general more of an Animal than the Animals in the Film.

As all White Male Hunters are, of course.

The Woman was a Nature Loving, Hunter Hating, Tree-Hugger who was Obviously one of the Good Guys... The Husbandless Mother Figure of the Film, because God Forbid we show "Daddies" to Children.

The Sheriff was not Falling Down Drunk at the Bar, as many Indians are, but we'll Save the Negative Stereotyping for the White Male with the Gun... No, our Fearless and Wise Sheriff was a Respectable Man, not what I saw in Billings Montana everytime I Visited.... Again, we'll Save the Negative Stereotyping for the Evil White Man.

Anyway, I didn't Finish it because it was also not Entertaining and I Fell Asleep.

I Hope I am not the only one who Finds that Film Offensive, considering it's Target Audience... Children. The same Children we are trying NOT to Enforce Stereotypes to, I would Assume.

One other part of this Film that I don't like, and it's not Exclusive to this Children's Film by any Stretch, is the Humanizing of Animals.

Bears Eat Children.

They are not your Friends...

They are not Pets...

They don't Pal around with Deer...

They Kill Humans every single time they get the Chance, End of ****ing List.

Anyway... That's my Take on that Dime a Dozen Kumputeranimitized Flim... Yes, Flim.

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peace...

^Did I Author that Drunk?...

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peace...

[rob_b52]

I still feel racially sterotyped in the Bambi movie. I shot a deer once. I have not been able to get over my grief that I could be so cruel.

[tha malcontent™]

I still feel racially sterotyped in the Bambi movie. I shot a deer once. I have not been able to get over my grief that I could be so cruel.

I Dug the Eyes out of mine and put them on my Index Fingers like Black Olives and ran around Screaming, "She is Calling from the Deep!"...

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[enki]

^Did I Author that Drunk?...

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i REALLLLLY hope so... cause it's way over the top PC'ish.

[tha malcontent™]

i REALLLLLY hope so... cause it's way over the top PC'ish.

What?...

This?:

I Dug the Eyes out of mine and put them on my Index Fingers like Black Olives and ran around Screaming, "She is Calling from the Deep!"...

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peace...

Or the OP?...

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[enki]

the OP. the black olives bit was...


awesome.

[Harmonious]

You hadn't? Apparently because all of the people who played Hyenas were minorities, there was an uproar that it was about what would happen if people in the ghetto were to have power and how they should stay in the shadows. Or something.
:doh:

I would NEVER have made that connection.

By the same token, I know someone who despises the Shrek series, because Donkey is a not-too-bright character played by a black man.
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Dude, it was a DONKEY, and Shrek was an ogre.

I suppose we need to recalibrate all cartoons by what nationality or religion or race some voice actor plays whichever character...

[Harmonious]

Whats next?

Hispanics getting angry over the insult to their machismo that Antonio Banderas voices a character whose name has "Puss" in it and licks his butt during a scene in the last movie? And blacks getting made because Eddie Murphy has to voice a Donkey and we all know Donkeys are useless and lazy? And lets not leave whites out of it as Mike Myers and Cameron Diaz have to voice horrible Ogres and we all know Ogres are vicious, cruel, and killers. I'm not sure which race got the worst of it but I think I better get outraged anyway since the third installment of this obviously biased series is coming out in a few weeks.


(sarcasm off)Yup. I wish I would have seen this before my previous post, but dude - it only makes it more frustrating...

[sgtmac_46]

:rolleyes:

Holy over analyzing a kids movie Batman.


I took my kids to see it at the movie. For a kids movie it was pretty enjoyable. And never once during the whole movie did I find it political.

Once its again a case of someone wanting to find bias so they find it in everything.
That makes one of us.....these type of movies are indoctrination....they are more successful when you DON'T see the political in it. ;)

It's anti-hunting and anti-gun.....that's the intent of it's makers, and really isn't anything new.....it's been the same onslaught since Bambi.

[sgtmac_46]

Whats next?

Hispanics getting angry over the insult to their machismo that Antonio Banderas voices a character whose name has "Puss" in it and licks his butt during a scene in the last movie? And blacks getting made because Eddie Murphy has to voice a Donkey and we all know Donkeys are useless and lazy? And lets not leave whites out of it as Mike Myers and Cameron Diaz have to voice horrible Ogres and we all know Ogres are vicious, cruel, and killers. I'm not sure which race got the worst of it but I think I better get outraged anyway since the third installment of this obviously biased series is coming out in a few weeks.


(sarcasm off)
HUGE difference......the INTENT of the makers isn't to be anti-Hispanic....if it WERE you'd have a point......but it's intent is not to be anti-Hispanic propaganda.

Open Season, on other hand, is OBVIOUS anti-gun/anti-hunter propaganda.....so blatant an obvious even a caveman could see it.

[CaptainPike]

I agree that the tree hugger woman and anti-hunter ideas of the movie were pretty lame. Hunters provide food for their families, and that's not a bad thing.

The rest of what the OP had to say, I'm not so sure about.

[Radioflyer]

HUGE difference......the INTENT of the makers isn't to be anti-Hispanic....if it WERE you'd have a point......but it's intent is not to be anti-Hispanic propaganda.

Open Season, on other hand, is OBVIOUS anti-gun/anti-hunter propaganda.....so blatant an obvious even a caveman could see it.The Bambi movie is the greatest anti-gun/anti-hunter propaganda....and it didn't help criminalize the sport much. I'm sure the creators were trying to say ( propaganda ) something but I doubt it was very affective.

[Radioflyer]

I agree that the tree hugger woman and anti-hunter ideas of the movie were pretty lame. Hunters provide food for their families, and that's not a bad thing.

The rest of what the OP had to say, I'm not so sure about.Hear,hear.

[Pudge]

OK... I Fixed some Errors in that Rant.

Now maybe it's Acceptable.

I was as Busy as I was Tired yesterday, Damn it! ;)

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peace...

I still have NO idea what you're talking about, Mal. A movie? I don't think I've seen a preview for it.

[Pudge]

I agree that the tree hugger woman and anti-hunter ideas of the movie were pretty lame. Hunters provide food for their families, and that's not a bad thing.

The rest of what the OP had to say, I'm not so sure about.

This is almost as lame as the bikers who claim that the main reason for loud pipes is to save lives.

Most hunters hunt for sport, not for food. Now, I am not opposed to hunting, but I really think that people need to be honest about why they hunt. If you hunt for sport, be proud of it and say so. Don't be afraid because you might be portrayed as eeeeeeeeeeeevil by PETA.

[STEEL]

This is almost as lame as the bikers who claim that the main reason for loud pipes is to save lives.

Most hunters hunt for sport, not for food. Now, I am not opposed to hunting, but I really think that people need to be honest about why they hunt. If you hunt for sport, be proud of it and say so. Don't be afraid because you might be portrayed as eeeeeeeeeeeevil by PETA.

I know ZERO hunters who don't eat all that they kill.

I also know ZERO hunters who give a crap about PETA and what they think.

[nortman]

I know ZERO hunters who don't eat all that they kill.

I also know ZERO hunters who give a crap about PETA and what they think.

My oldest son is a member of PETA.

People for the
Eating of
Tasty
Animals.

Their slogan is; "There's a place for all of God's creatures right next to the mashed potatoes."

[STEEL]

My oldest son is a member of PETA.

People for the
Eating of
Tasty
Animals.

Their slogan is; "There's a place for all of God's creatures right next to the mashed potatoes."

I love the shirt:

"If God didn't want us to eat animals... he wouldn't have made them out of meat"

[waynevan]

I'm not too sure Bambi was so successful in the anti hunter business. My daughter use to watch it once or twice a week and during that same time frame spend Saturdays at my friends house who more often than would come home with a dead deer in the back of his truck, hunting season or not, as he did crop protection and could shoot them year 'round. The first time she saw one she asked me about it. I told her they were going to eat it and she said, Oh. That was the end of it and she continued to watch the movie and spend Saturdays there if both her parents were working, which we often were back then.

[Article]

Is this about the slapstick comedy who nobody in their right mind would ever take seriously?

[tha malcontent™]

the OP. the black olives bit was...


awesome.

Thank you, Sir...

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peace...

[STEEL]

...or the saying

"If God didn't want us to eats pigs....He wouldn't have made them taste like bacon"

Something like that. I can't remember where I heard it though.

[STEEL]

Is this about the slapstick comedy who nobody in their right mind would ever take seriously?

My daughter came home from school the other day turning off all the lights in the house to "save a walrus". You can't honestly believe that kids don't take slapstick comedy seriously.

[waynevan]

...or the saying

"If God didn't want us to eats pigs....He wouldn't have made them taste like bacon"

Something like that. I can't remember where I heard it though.

I think the original of that was;

"If God didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat".

[waynevan]

My daughter came home from school the other day turning off all the lights in the house to "save a walrus". You can't honestly believe that kids don't take slapstick comedy seriously.

We have three kids, two of them now in high school and I couldn't count the number of homework assignments they get that have something to do with climate change. Some of their teachers probably hate me. ;)

[Maelstrom]

You hadn't? Apparently because all of the people who played Hyenas were minorities, there was an uproar that it was about what would happen if people in the ghetto were to have power and how they should stay in the shadows. Or something.

I believe most of the animals played were minorities.

[Maelstrom]

http://www.wftv.com/news/2286531/detail.html

FORT WORTH, Texas -- A former nurse's aide accused of impaling a man in her windshield and leaving him to die in her garage pleaded guilty Monday morning to evidence tampering before arguments began on the first-degree murder charge against her.

Mallard was arrested in March 2002 and charged in the death of Gregory Biggs, 37, in October 2001. Police and medical reports say Mallard hit Biggs while driving in southeast Fort Worth.

She told police she hit the man with such force, he jammed into the windshield of her car where he remained, moaning, for a few hours.

The police report says Mallard kept going in and out of the garage, telling the man she was sorry. But she finally quit going into the garage and doesn't know when he died.

Mallard told police she was scared and left Biggs stuck in her windshield, parked in her garage. The medical examiner said Biggs, who bled to death, could have survived if he'd received medical attention.

Prosecutors will rely on two key witnesses, both friends of Mallard who say they helped dispose of Biggs' body in a nearby park.

<<snip>>

[Article]

My bad, I thought Mal was talking about the new movie that's out about the guys filming a nature show.

Carry on.

[Maelstrom]

My bad, I thought Mal was talking about the new movie that's out about the guys filming a nature show.

Carry on.

The new movie used the same scenario, but changed the perpetrator, and changed the victim.

Reality meets art with a political agenda.

[tha malcontent™]

http://www.wftv.com/news/2286531/detail.html

FORT WORTH, Texas -- A former nurse's aide accused of impaling a man in her windshield and leaving him to die in her garage pleaded guilty Monday morning to evidence tampering before arguments began on the first-degree murder charge against her.

Mallard was arrested in March 2002 and charged in the death of Gregory Biggs, 37, in October 2001. Police and medical reports say Mallard hit Biggs while driving in southeast Fort Worth.

She told police she hit the man with such force, he jammed into the windshield of her car where he remained, moaning, for a few hours.

The police report says Mallard kept going in and out of the garage, telling the man she was sorry. But she finally quit going into the garage and doesn't know when he died.

Mallard told police she was scared and left Biggs stuck in her windshield, parked in her garage. The medical examiner said Biggs, who bled to death, could have survived if he'd received medical attention.

Prosecutors will rely on two key witnesses, both friends of Mallard who say they helped dispose of Biggs' body in a nearby park.

<<snip>>

^Part of my Many "Ain't Nothin' but a G-Thing AP" Seriers a couple of years back...

Nice Flashback, Mael!

:)

peace...

[tha malcontent™]

...or the saying

"If God didn't want us to eats pigs....He wouldn't have made them taste like bacon"

Something like that. I can't remember where I heard it though.

Click me! (http://www.associalisticpress.com/PULP3.WAV)

:)

peace...

[blackcatrun]

Can I add a little? Maybe this should be a point made?

Sitting in front of me is an Offical Mickey Mouse club 78 RPM extra play record. A record that is a bit hard to find.

A recording from a movie made by Walt Disney. A movie that is banned from viewers. The name escapes me at the presen time. It has been years scence I have seen it.
But maybe one of you know the songs from that now banned movie?

Maybe even know why this one movie was banned?
Uncle remuse sings Zip-a-dee-doo-dah. How do you do. Everybodie has a laughing place.

[blackcatrun]

SONG OF THE SOUTH. Sung by James Baskett. That was the movie banned from being seen in movie theaters and on television.
The resoans why are because it "showed slavery in a postive light".

[CaptainPike]

This is almost as lame as the bikers who claim that the main reason for loud pipes is to save lives.

Most hunters hunt for sport, not for food. Now, I am not opposed to hunting, but I really think that people need to be honest about why they hunt. If you hunt for sport, be proud of it and say so. Don't be afraid because you might be portrayed as eeeeeeeeeeeevil by PETA.

I have never hunted for sport. But if I did, there'd be nothing wrong with it.

[sgtmac_46]

The Bambi movie is the greatest anti-gun/anti-hunter propaganda....and it didn't help criminalize the sport much. I'm sure the creators were trying to say ( propaganda ) something but I doubt it was very affective. Really? Have you looked around you in the years since Bambi and the bombardment of like movies? Ever heard of 'PETA', 'ALF', 'Earth First!'? Do you really not see the societal connection between childhood exposure to these movies and the subsequent mixed bag of nuts and fruitcakes being produced these days? Where else do you think they sprang up?


Movies like this are PURE ANTHROPOMORPHISM! They are attempting to HUMANIZE the non-human, to instill empathy for a political purpose.

[sgtmac_46]

This is almost as lame as the bikers who claim that the main reason for loud pipes is to save lives.

Most hunters hunt for sport, not for food. Now, I am not opposed to hunting, but I really think that people need to be honest about why they hunt. If you hunt for sport, be proud of it and say so. Don't be afraid because you might be portrayed as eeeeeeeeeeeevil by PETA.
I hunt for food AND sport.....and legal hunting provides an ESSENTIAL ecological service to wildlife.....a service that does far more for wildlife populations than a MILLION PETA's as you probably well know.

[blackcatrun]

I hunt for food AND sport.....and legal hunting provides an ESSENTIAL ecological service to wildlife.....a service that does far more for wildlife populations than a MILLION Peta's!

sence when is splashing red paint on a already dead animal doing any thing any good?

[sgtmac_46]

sence when is splashing red paint on a already dead animal doing any thing any good? It doesn't.....but PETA members have never been successfully accused of being remotely rational.

[Pudge]

Killing deer is fine m by me- rats with antlers they are. Ruined a car of mine. Hell with 'em.

I just don't buy it when people say most hunters eat their kills.

[HeadOnStraight]

OK... I Fixed some Errors in that Rant.

Now maybe it's Acceptable.

I was as Busy as I was Tired yesterday, Damn it! ;)

:)

peace...

LOL

You were much more entertaining.

[HeadOnStraight]

You hadn't? Apparently because all of the people who played Hyenas were minorities, there was an uproar that it was about what would happen if people in the ghetto were to have power and how they should stay in the shadows. Or something.

And all the bad guys in Star Wars had British accents.

[blackcatrun]

Killing deer is fine m by me- rats with antlers they are. Ruined a car of mine. Hell with 'em.

I just don't buy it when people say most hunters eat their kills.

Well, mine is in the freezer. I have eaten every deer I have taken every bird I have shot.

I save a lot of money by taking deer and filling my freezer up with meat.
If I was a sportsman I would file for a moose permit. I wont eat a moose so I wont file.

[VRWCbabe]

I *love* venison, and I wish someone would fill my freezer with it! The last venison I had came from a student of mine who brought me a HUGE bag full of deer meat. Now he's graduated, so I don't have any more Bambi to eat! :((

[tha malcontent™]

LOL

You were much more entertaining.

My Wife's First Degree was in English...

Her Masters was in Education...

My Errors are her Burden also... ;)

Of course, Speaking in FounderSpeak when I Write isn't Entertaining either!

:)

peace...

[tha malcontent™]

I *love* venison, and I wish someone would fill my freezer with it! The last venison I had came from a student of mine who brought me a HUGE bag full of deer meat. Now he's graduated, so I don't have any more Bambi to eat! :((

A-****in'-men!...

Ever Drynk the Blood of a Fresh Kill from it's Heart?...

:)

peace...

[croupier101]

I think mutilating bodies, decapitating animals, and putting their decapitated heads up on a wall is very normal and healthy. :rolleyes:

[waynevan]

I think mutilating bodies, decapitating animals, and putting their decapitated heads up on a wall is very normal and healthy. :rolleyes:

Tens of millions of hunters would agree with you. We are a part of nature, all this trying to "rise above it" is silly.

[HeadOnStraight]

I think mutilating bodies, decapitating animals, and putting their decapitated heads up on a wall is very normal and healthy. :rolleyes:

Like the unsuspecting corn plants, they are sowed side by side, only to be run over by a combine which picks, shucks, and mutilates them, and putting their decapitated heads up on a display case in the produce section,
this s very normal and healthy. :rolleyes:

Not to mention all the roses that are killed, mutilated and stuffed into vases for Valentines Day.

[CaptainPike]

Killing deer is fine m by me- rats with antlers they are. Ruined a car of mine. Hell with 'em.

I just don't buy it when people say most hunters eat their kills.

Pudge, have you ever been hunting?

[CaptainPike]

I think mutilating bodies, decapitating animals, and putting their decapitated heads up on a wall is very normal and healthy. :rolleyes:

Why criticize hunters?

After all, they are doing the work that you refuse to do. I doubt you complain like this when you sit down at the dinner table to eat a steak. At least the deer had a chance to run. The cow never did.

[STEEL]

Pudge, have you ever been hunting?

or know many hunters?

I'm guessing no.

[Pudge]

Pudge, have you ever been hunting?

My uncle tried to take me once. I found it to be absolutely pointless. Getting up at 3:30 AM to stalk a defenseless animal and shoot it is not my favorite way to spend a Saturday morning. Sleep, cartoons, breakfast, and more sleep. That's a Saturday morning.

[Pudge]

or know many hunters?

I'm guessing no.

And I am guessing that you're presumptuous..

I know a lot of hunters though I don't hunt myself. I have a deer's head on my back porch right now, my neighbor is letting the meat rot off for what reason I don't know. I live in a small town where a lot of people hunt.

Look, I am not anti-hunter. Knock yourselves out, I don't care. I don't have a moral objection to it.

Just don't try and make it out to be more than what it is- grown dudes hanging out in the woods with weapons shooting at animals and occasionally hitting each other.

[Maelstrom]

I think mutilating bodies, decapitating animals, and putting their decapitated heads up on a wall is very normal and healthy. :rolleyes:

I think there's something wrong with your "thinking".

So you never eat meat, eh?

[tha malcontent™]

I think mutilating bodies, decapitating animals, and putting their decapitated heads up on a wall is very normal and healthy. :rolleyes:

It's called "Processing", Croup!...

CitySlicker.

:)

peace...

[croupier101]

Why criticize hunters?

After all, they are doing the work that you refuse to do. I doubt you complain like this when you sit down at the dinner table to eat a steak. At least the deer had a chance to run. The cow never did.

They aren't doing any work. They enjoy killing, decapitating and putting dead animal heads on their walls.

Sorry, but the cow and the pigs I eat are not killed by hunters. I have never heard of a hunter, hunting down cows and sticking their head on a wall.

[croupier101]

I think there's something wrong with your "thinking".

So you never eat meat, eh?

Huh? Of course I eat meat. But I don't decapitate or mutilate the bodies to make some sort of sick trophy out of it. That is just ****ing sick.

[croupier101]

Like the unsuspecting corn plants, they are sowed side by side, only to be run over by a combine which picks, shucks, and mutilates them, and putting their decapitated heads up on a display case in the produce section,
this s very normal and healthy. :rolleyes:

Not to mention all the roses that are killed, mutilated and stuffed into vases for Valentines Day.

Are you comparing the decapitation of animals to put on a wall to roses?

[CaptainPike]

Huh? Of course I eat meat. But I don't decapitate or mutilate the bodies to make some sort of sick trophy out of it. That is just ****ing sick.

Of course you don't decapitate and mutilate the bodies.

You expect others to do that work for you.

[croupier101]

Of course you don't decapitate and mutilate the bodies.

You expect others to do that work for you.

I don't need anyone to work for me to create decapitated deer head trophies. I don't want one.

[waynevan]

They aren't doing any work. They enjoy killing, decapitating and putting dead animal heads on their walls.

Sorry, but the cow and the pigs I eat are not killed by hunters. I have never heard of a hunter, hunting down cows and sticking their head on a wall.

So you never heard about the city slicker that shot a one hundred thousand dollar prize bull? Some people shouldn't hunt, thats a fact, but there is more to it than just shooting animals. I'm not a hunter, but most of my friends are and I've eaten just about every game animal in the US. I've spent as much time or more in the wilderness than most hunters.

Seeing the sun come up in the deep wilderness and hearing the forest awaken, observing animals in a way most people have no idea about, you can't get that feeling reading about it. Ever heard 4 or 5 hundred geese land all around you? Or watched a tom turkey courting a female? A bald eagle catch a fish? A grizzly bear chasing an elk? Seen a flying squirrel fly? I've seen all these things and more and they are memories I cherish. Hunters are not just a bunch of rednecks with guns, most of them, like 95% from my experience, are stewards of the wilderness who have an understanding of the outdoors that far surpasses that of most other people. They are the real environmentalists, they live to be in the wilderness whenever they can and they take much better care of it than so called green citizens whose idea of wilderness is a walk in the park. Screw those whackjobs, they have no idea what the wilderness is even about.

[waynevan]

Butchering an animal is not "mutilation". Are Eskimos sick? American Indians? Australian Aborigines? Jungle villagers in South America and Africa? Like you said about racism being often based in ignorance, bigotry can have the same roots. You know nothing of hunters croup, nothing.

[CaptainPike]

Butchering an animal is not "mutilation". Are Eskimos sick? American Indians? Australian Aborigines? Jungle villagers in South America and Africa? Like you said about racism being often based in ignorance, bigotry can have the same roots. You know nothing of hunters croup, nothing.

Only people that look like Elmer Fudd are hunters.

[croupier101]

Butchering an animal is not "mutilation". Are Eskimos sick? American Indians? Australian Aborigines? Jungle villagers in South America and Africa? Like you said about racism being often based in ignorance, bigotry can have the same roots. You know nothing of hunters croup, nothing.

Those people had to hunt for food and survival. They didn't play dress up and slaughter animals for fun.

If there are hunters who are unable to afford food for their families, and as a result need to go into the woods to kill animals for food, then that is different. Someone who goes out simply for the thrill of killing an animal, chopping its head off, and putting it up on their wall, and use some stupid excuse about "meat", then I think it is BS.

[tha malcontent™]

Huh? Of course I eat meat. But I don't decapitate or mutilate the bodies to make some sort of sick trophy out of it. That is just ****ing sick.

It's called Processing, Croup...

:)

peace...

[croupier101]

It's called Processing, Croup...

:)

peace...

Oh sorry, I thought we were talking about hunters, not meat processing plants. I have never seen a big cow head up on the wall of a meat processing plant like a trophy, but I admit I don't visit them very often.

[tha malcontent™]

Oh sorry, I thought we were talking about hunters, not meat processing plants. I have never seen a big cow head up on the wall of a meat processing plant like a trophy, but I admit I don't visit them very often.

What do you Care if a Hunter Processes his Game, and Keeps the Head as a Trophy?...

Don't have Friends who Hunt, and move along!

:)

peace...

[croupier101]

What do you Care if a Hunter Processes his Game, and Keeps the Head as a Trophy?...


Someone who dresses up and sits in a tree to blow away a dumb animal with a 5 IQ, and then decapitate it, stuff it, and put it on his/her wall has some major issues.


Don't have Friends who Hunt, and move along!


You started the thread, if you didn't want comments, you should have locked it and made it a sticky.

[Fire Watch]

Oh sorry, I thought we were talking about hunters, not meat processing plants. I have never seen a big cow head up on the wall of a meat processing plant like a trophy, but I admit I don't visit them very often.
Yeah, ignorance is a fort for some no? Hows the view from the tower?

[croupier101]

Yeah, ignorance is a fort for some no? Hows the view from the tower?

Do you have decapitated animal heads on your walls? Do you hunt for meat or because you have fun shooting animals? I just want some honesty. Hunters pull this crap out about meat, and helping the environment, and don't just admit that they shoot animals and decapitate them because they have fun doing it.

[Fire Watch]

Do you have decapitated animal heads on your walls? Do you hunt for meat or because you have fun shooting animals? I just want some honesty. Hunters pull this crap out about meat, and helping the environment, and don't just admit that they shoot animals and decapitate them because they have fun doing it.
Hunting is a damned good time. However, I never hunt just for trophies, once I have enough meat to last me until the next season, I'm done. I rarely buy meat from a grocer.

[Maelstrom]

Are you comparing the decapitation of animals to put on a wall to roses?

It's perfectly comparable within the context of your own post...the one it mocked.

[Maelstrom]

Huh? Of course I eat meat. But I don't decapitate or mutilate the bodies to make some sort of sick trophy out of it. That is just ****ing sick.

It's art.

[croupier101]

Hunting is a damned good time.
Thank you, that is all I wanted.

However, I never hunt just for trophies, once I have enough meat to last me until the next season, I'm done. I rarely buy meat from a grocer.

That is all I wanted to hear.

Do you hunt cows, pigs, and chickens or do you not eat those foods?

[croupier101]

It's perfectly comparable within the context of your own post...the one it mocked.

If you find a florists who likes to dress up and face paint to be like an army guy so they can hide in the woods, catch an unsuspecting rose in the forest, and think they are cool because they cut its head off, you let me know.

[Fire Watch]

Do you hunt cows, pigs, and chickens or do you not eat those foods?
Are they wild? Is it a challenge? Is hunting them the only way to get the meat? Would hunting them for the meat be cheaper and more efficient than buying them from a grocer?

[croupier101]

Are they wild? Is it a challenge?
None of it is a challenge. A painted up guy with a high powered rifle up against an animal with a 5 IQ isn't a challenge.


Is hunting them the only way to get the meat?
I have no idea what hunters like shooting and what they don't like shooting.

Would hunting them for the meat be cheaper and more efficient than buying them from a grocer?

I have no idea.

[F9thRet]

Are they wild? Is it a challenge? Is hunting them the only way to get the meat? Would hunting them for the meat be cheaper and more efficient than buying them from a grocer?


Ok this Marine hunts Chickens. I hate them. Nothing pleases me more then snapping there heads. It's an Oedipus thing.

Growing up, My mother Fed me Boxed Fried Chicken every day for three years, Lunch and Dinner.

I had 18 Close members of my family die between the age of 10 and 12. Everyone brough KFC to the wake. It was a lottery, the person who ate the most Chicken would be the next to die.

I will knowingly and with haste, kill any Chicken I see. I hates me some Chicken.

Carry on Men.

Stephen

[Fire Watch]

None of it is a challenge. A painted up guy with a high powered rifle up against an animal with a 5 IQ isn't a challenge.

Thank you for confirming my suspicions of your ignorance.

[F9thRet]

Twice a year, I use a double tap with a .22 to Fall a cow. This gives my Family meat. I usually bring out the heavy stuff for those who would stop me from feeding my family.

Stephen

[tha malcontent™]

Someone who dresses up and sits in a tree to blow away a dumb animal with a 5 IQ, and then decapitate it, stuff it, and put it on his/her wall has some major issues.



You started the thread, if you didn't want comments, you should have locked it and made it a sticky.

You just ****ed on a lot of Hannity Members who are Hunters...

:)

peace...

[croupier101]

Thank you for confirming my suspicions of your ignorance.

Save it, I have seen those morons on ESPN. Pouring **** and urine around a tree stand and sitting there for 3 hours until one comes along and blowing its head off is not a challenge. Does the face paint make it feel like you are playing war, or just so the animal doesn't see you when you shoot it from behind??

Challenge? Shooting takes skill and practice, but that is about the extent of the challenge.

[croupier101]

You just ****ed on a lot of Hannity Members who are Hunters...

:)

peace...

So? This is a debate forum. I don't have to agree with everyone.

[Fire Watch]

Save it, I have seen those morons on ESPN. Pouring **** and urine around a tree stand and sitting there for 3 hours until one comes along and blowing its head off is not a challenge. Does the face paint make it feel like you are playing war, or just so the animal doesn't see you when you shoot it from behind??

Challenge? Shooting takes skill and practice, but that is about the extent of the challenge.
Where should we start?

*I've never seen a hunter shoot an animal in the head. (Ignorance revealed x1)

*I dont know many hunters at all that wear face paint. (Ignorance revealed x2)

*I dont have to play war. I served in the Marine Corps for over a decade. I went to war in several different theaters. I bled for my country. (Ignorance revealed x3)

*I've never seen a hunter shoot an animal from behind. It ruins the meat. (Ignorance revealed x4)

*I've never, ever heard of a hunter pouring "****" around a tree stand..that would in fact defeat the purpose. (Ignorance revealed x5)

All that ignorance in one post. You're very efficient. Kudos.

[Maelstrom]

Someone who dresses up and sits in a tree to blow away a dumb animal with a 5 IQ, and then decapitate it, stuff it, and put it on his/her wall has some major issues.


Someone who believes that there's something wrong with hunting, and taking pride in a kill by preserving it via taxidermy has some major major issues, especially if they, themselves, eat meat.

[Maelstrom]

If you find a florists who likes to dress up and face paint to be like an army guy so they can hide in the woods, catch an unsuspecting rose in the forest, and think they are cool because they cut its head off, you let me know.

If I did...what's would YOUR problem be?

Actually...what's YOUR problem when a hunter does this?

By the by, dressing up in camouflage in order to help achieve a successful hunt is a tactic almost as old as hunting is. You're confused, it is actually the military that dresses up with face pain to be like hunters.

[Maelstrom]

None of it is a challenge. A painted up guy with a high powered rifle up against an animal with a 5 IQ isn't a challenge.


I have no idea what hunters like shooting and what they don't like shooting.



I have no idea.

You don't care either...you just prefer to imagine that they have a problem because you really really don't realize that you're in need of a mirror.

[croupier101]

Where should we start?

*I've never seen a hunter shoot an animal in the head. (Ignorance revealed x1)
Me neither, but the animal sure looks dead. I have no idea where the cool place to shoot them is. But now that I think about it, you are probably right, that would screw up the trophy when you cut its head off.

*I dont know many hunters at all that wear face paint. (Ignorance revealed x2)

The guy on ESPN had face paint on, and the other had this camo robber mask thing. It looked like this:

http://www.leafycamo.com/template_assets/images/hero1.jpg

*I dont have to play war. I served in the Marine Corps for over a decade. I went to war in several different theaters. I bled for my country. (Ignorance revealed x3)
What does you serving have to do with playing games and pretending now?

*I've never seen a hunter shoot an animal from behind. It ruins the meat. (Ignorance revealed x4)
You shoot them standing still, or when they are running away?



All that ignorance in one post. You're very efficient. Kudos.
You reached for some small details, but you didn't discredit the theme.

Tricking stupid animals to walk into an area where you are hiding, and then shooting them isn't a challenge. Unless sitting and being really quiet is somehow a skill.

[croupier101]

You don't care either...you just prefer to imagine that they have a problem because you really really don't realize that you're in need of a mirror.

In need of a mirror? What the hell are you talking about?

[Fire Watch]

You're absolutely clueless. I'm sorry for trying to engage someone so woefully unprepared. Carry on.

[croupier101]

If I did...what's would YOUR problem be?
I would say that is one nutty florist.

Actually...what's YOUR problem when a hunter does this?
I don't really have a problem. Hunting should be legal. I'd rather have these people out in the woods shooting at animals.

By the by, dressing up in camouflage in order to help achieve a successful hunt is a tactic almost as old as hunting is. You're confused, it is actually the military that dresses up with face pain to be like hunters.

Rick told me that hunters don't wear face paint.

[croupier101]

You're absolutely clueless. I'm sorry for trying to engage someone so woefully unprepared. Carry on.

Yay, that a boy, call me ignorant and move on. I am all for your right to play out in the woods, go for it. But lets not make it some noble and challenging thing. That is my only problem with it.

[Maelstrom]

Tricking stupid animals to walk into an area where you are hiding, and then shooting them isn't a challenge. Unless sitting and being really quiet is somehow a skill.

People from a city, like you, who believe as you do, typically can't do it.

[croupier101]

People from a city, like you, who believe as you do, typically can't do it.

Can't do what?

[croupier101]

*I dont know many hunters at all that wear face paint. (Ignorance revealed x2)

Wonder why they make it and sell it on nearly every hunting site I visited.

http://www.mackspw.com/Item--i-HUS278

http://www.nextag.com/camo-paint/search-html

[F9thRet]

Gentleman, Coup will never understand.

I have a good friend Named Frey. He is Pretty much left. Ok Very Much left, but He's an OK guy.

A few years ago, he came up from Texas to spend my Birthday with me. DarkBlade and I gave him a lesson on Gun safety, and He fired the 12 Gauge for the first time in his life. He loved it.

To this day, we discuss Hunting, and I am planning on taking him on his first hunt ever.

I say we better get used to Killing animals, Because the way the elections are going, we will need that skill.

Stephen

[croupier101]

Gentleman, Coup will never understand.

I have a good friend Named Frey. He is Pretty much left. Ok Very Much left, but He's an OK guy.

A few years ago, he came up from Texas to spend my Birthday with me. DarkBlade and I gave him a lesson on Gun safety, and He fired the 12 Gauge for the first time in his life. He loved it.

To this day, we discuss Hunting, and I am planning on taking him on his first hunt ever.

I say we better get used to Killing animals, Because the way the elections are going, we will need that skill.

Stephen

No doubt, I will never understand it. I am sure there are things that people do that you think is stupid and ridiculous. It doesn't matter what I think, do what you want. I just don't like it when hunters pretend it is something that it isn't.

[waynevan]

No doubt, I will never understand it. I am sure there are things that people do that you think is stupid and ridiculous. It doesn't matter what I think, do what you want. I just don't like it when hunters pretend it is something that it isn't.


Since you have no clue about it, you are about the worst one on the planet to judge it.

[croupier101]

Since you have no clue about it, you are about the worst one on the planet to judge it.

I have never seen a dog fight, but I have no problem making a judgement about that either.

[F9thRet]

No doubt, I will never understand it. I am sure there are things that people do that you think is stupid and ridiculous. It doesn't matter what I think, do what you want. I just don't like it when hunters pretend it is something that it isn't.


Croup I may be going out on a line here, But 97% of the food My family eats, Is either from me hunting, Raising, or Fishing.

Granted I am fed up to hear with Politics, And I think to myself, If I can clean a wild boar, so can you.

During the Ice Storm, Here in Oklahoma, we lost most of our food. I replaced the meat within two weeks. I did this by hunting.

I respect you , But I would have words with anyone Denying my Family food. Hell I have special rounds just for that occasion.

stephen

[ImNewHere]

Someone who dresses up and sits in a tree to blow away a dumb animal with a 5 IQ, and then decapitate it, stuff it, and put it on his/her wall has some major issues.

How do you administer and score an IQ test on an animal?

[croupier101]

Croup I may be going out on a line here, But 97% of the food My family eats, Is either from me hunting, Raising, or Fishing.
That is cool. If you are hunting to provide your family with survival, and you aren't doing it for fun that is completely different.

Granted I am fed up to hear with Politics, And I think to myself, If I can clean a wild boar, so can you.
Does boar taste good? Like pig?

During the Ice Storm, Here in Oklahoma, we lost most of our food. I replaced the meat within two weeks. I did this by hunting.
That is great.

I respect you , But I would have words with anyone Denying my Family food. Hell I have special rounds just for that occasion.


As I said in other posts, I have no problem if you are hunting to keep food on your table. My comments were directed at hunters who kill for fun.

[croupier101]

How do you administer and score an IQ test on an animal?

I have no idea how they test and measure animal intelligence, or how they derive the IQ of an animal at 5 or in some cases 14 or 15.

[waynevan]

I have never seen a dog fight, but I have no problem making a judgement about that either.


A cruel and torturous endeavor that has no parallel whatsoever. You are judging the motives of hunters yet have not an iota of insight about any part of it. It would seem that the wilderness is a foreign thing to you and that is a disturbing trend for humanity.

[ImNewHere]

I have no idea how they test and measure animal intelligence, or how they derive the IQ of an animal at 5 or in some cases 14 or 15.

I bet they did well with the questions dealing with numbers.

[croupier101]

A cruel and torturous endeavor that has no parallel whatsoever.
I disagree. I think they have alot in common.

You are judging the motives of hunters yet have not an iota of insight about any part of it.
I think it is clear that in most cases hunters hunt for fun. Do you believe that most hunters don't hunt for fun?

It would seem that the wilderness is a foreign thing to you and that is a disturbing trend for humanity.
I have no problem with the wilderness, but I don't think a guy dressed in camo in a spray painted fort shooting at deer for fun has anything to do with wilderness.

[croupier101]

I bet they did well with the questions dealing with numbers.

I saw a parrot at Busch Wildlife who did calculus for food.

[F9thRet]

That is cool. If you are hunting to provide your family with survival, and you aren't doing it for fun that is completely different.


Does boar taste good? Like pig?


That is great.



As I said in other posts, I have no problem if you are hunting to keep food on your table. My comments were directed at hunters who kill for fun.
I stand corrected then on the Concept behind this thread. It was my Mistake, that you where claiming all Hunters where bad, etc. I see know that you did not mean that.

I get very Defensive over my Wife and by Relation her Kinfolke.

:D Ok so on to the Donner party, what's the best Recipe you have for eating Leftest? :D

stephen

[tha malcontent™]

*I dont have to play war. I served in the Marine Corps for over a decade. I went to war in several different theaters. I bled for my country. (Ignorance revealed x3)


I Noticed Croup Ignored that one...

:)

peace...

[croupier101]

I Noticed Croup Ignored that one...

:)

peace...

Huh? I quoted that exact message, and posted a response directly to that line. You must have misread.

[croupier101]

I stand corrected then on the Concept behind this thread. It was my Mistake, that you where claiming all Hunters where bad, etc. I see know that you did not mean that.

I get very Defensive over my Wife and by Relation her Kinfolke.

:D Ok so on to the Donner party, what's the best Recipe you have for eating Leftest? :D

stephen

I am by no means a big animal rights person, and I think PETA is as big a joke as anyone else. I like meat, I eat meat, and I hope they keep killing animals to provide me with more meat. My comments are specifically in regards to game and recreational hunting for fun. And the hunter in the movie Mal is upset about, is about those sorts of hunters who kill animals for fun and trophies.

If you are hunting for survival and put food on your table, then I wish you the best of luck.

[tha malcontent™]

Huh? I quoted that exact message, and posted a response directly to that line. You must have misread.

Oh, I made a Mistake… Errors like these should be Handled Smoothly… This is the Mark of a Professional…

Your Dismissal, and in that Lack of "Thank yous" for his Service, are to say the Least... Disturbing.

:)

peace...

[croupier101]

Oh, I made a Mistake… Errors like these should be Handled Smoothly… This is the Mark of a Professional…

Your Dismissal, and in that Lack of "Thank yous" for his Service, are to say the Least... Disturbing.

:)

peace...

I accept your wierd apology. Rick did his job, he doesn't need my thanks in every thread he brings up his personal service in debate.

[tha malcontent™]

I accept your wierd apology. Rick did his job, he doesn't need my thanks in every thread he brings up his personal service in debate.

^Nope... Don't like that at all... Not one bit.

:)

peace...

[Conservative Okie]

Twice a year, I use a double tap with a .22 to Fall a cow. This gives my Family meat. I usually bring out the heavy stuff for those who would stop me from feeding my family.

Stephen

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k37/conokie/cows-chikin.jpg


yeah, yeah! I know. You HATE chicken! :))

[Losertarian]

I like venison, moose, caribou, bear, squirrel and a whole lot of other fresh meats. I dont ever see any liberals out here at my place. I guess the weather is too much for them.

[tha malcontent™]

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k37/conokie/cows-chikin.jpg


yeah, yeah! I know. You HATE chicken! :))

I Love THE White Meat...

And the Other White Meat...

And Fish...

And Shellfish...

And Game...

And Dog, if I don't Know any better... ;)

Props to PF!...

:)

peace...

[F9thRet]

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k37/conokie/cows-chikin.jpg


yeah, yeah! I know. You HATE chicken! :))


LOL, Hey us Okies do have a peculiar Sense of Humor.

Stephen

[sgtmac_46]

And all the bad guys in Star Wars had British accents.
That's only because George Lucas filmed in England to avoid paying union wages in hollywood.

[sgtmac_46]

I think mutilating bodies, decapitating animals, and putting their decapitated heads up on a wall is very normal and healthy. :rolleyes:
Who asked you what you thought? I hardly think you are the standard bearer for what is normal and healthy.

[sgtmac_46]

They aren't doing any work. They enjoy killing, decapitating and putting dead animal heads on their walls.

Sorry, but the cow and the pigs I eat are not killed by hunters. I have never heard of a hunter, hunting down cows and sticking their head on a wall. You prefer the hypocritical approach....let others do the dirty work so that you can enjoy the meat without the guilt.....how 'civilized'. ;)

[sgtmac_46]

Those people had to hunt for food and survival. They didn't play dress up and slaughter animals for fun.

If there are hunters who are unable to afford food for their families, and as a result need to go into the woods to kill animals for food, then that is different. Someone who goes out simply for the thrill of killing an animal, chopping its head off, and putting it up on their wall, and use some stupid excuse about "meat", then I think it is BS. And you don't have to eat meat bred and slaughtered to survive....you could be a vegetarian....you do it purely for 'enjoyment'.....but you let others do the dirty work. What does that make you again? Oh yes, 'civilized'. :))

I've killed animals for meat and i've killed animals for sport.....but I did both myself, I don't have to pay someone else to remove me several degrees away from the act so that I can lie to myself that what I ordered medium rare on the table is anything but an animal bred and killed for my pleasure....do you? ;)

[sgtmac_46]

Oh sorry, I thought we were talking about hunters, not meat processing plants. I have never seen a big cow head up on the wall of a meat processing plant like a trophy, but I admit I don't visit them very often. Of course you don't visit them.....you prefer the illusion that they just come from the store. And the reason you don't see a cow head on the wall is that there really is no chance for the cow, they are herded in to the slaughter house, herded down a chute, and then smacked in the head with an air hammer before having their throats cut.

The deer, on the other hand, lives as a wild animal, right up until the moment a predator kills it, not herded, not corraled, but free ranging until that one moment. They are not stupid defenseless animals, they are smart, fast, agile prey that when hunted sportingly are very difficult to find and kill......requiring a lot more effort than showing up at your local restaurant and deciding between rare and medium rare. ;)

[sgtmac_46]

Do you have decapitated animal heads on your walls? Do you hunt for meat or because you have fun shooting animals? I just want some honesty. Hunters pull this crap out about meat, and helping the environment, and don't just admit that they shoot animals and decapitate them because they have fun doing it. Do you enjoy your steak? I want some honesty! Do you eat because you have to eat meat to survive, or do you do it because it TASTES GOOD? And you derive PLEASURE FROM IT?!

[sgtmac_46]

I am by no means a big animal rights person, and I think PETA is as big a joke as anyone else. I like meat, I eat meat, and I hope they keep killing animals to provide me with more meat. My comments are specifically in regards to game and recreational hunting for fun. And the hunter in the movie Mal is upset about, is about those sorts of hunters who kill animals for fun and trophies.

If you are hunting for survival and put food on your table, then I wish you the best of luck. I don't care who it's in reference too.....when you take your family out to a restaurant and enjoy a nice juicy steak, you aren't doing it to survive.....you are doing it for PLEASURE! You could order a salad and survive....and it would probably be HEALTHIER!

Yet, you are standing in judgement over those of us who stalk and kill game animals for prey, the WHOLE thing BENEFITING wildlife in NUMEROUS ways, while you are enjoying your nice juicy guilt free steak under the rationale that since you didn't kill it, you're not responsible for it.....BS!

The difference between you enjoying your steak and a hunter killing for BOTH food and pleasure....is you have to have someone else do your dirty work for your pleasure! The hunter doesn't hide behind several layers of moral culpability to derive his pleasure....it's just him and the animal.....you have to have several layers of other people to enjoy your steak......again, how 'civilized'. :naughty:

[waynevan]

I disagree. I think they have alot in common.


I think it is clear that in most cases hunters hunt for fun. Do you believe that most hunters don't hunt for fun?


I have no problem with the wilderness, but I don't think a guy dressed in camo in a spray painted fort shooting at deer for fun has anything to do with wilderness.

Every hunter I know, and that is many, eats what they kill, every single one. Of those several dozen or more, I can at this moment only think of one or two that seem to be on the bloodthirsty side of things. One of them shot a bobcat once, and he was roundly cussed out by all and even ostracized by some, for such a wasteful stupid action, as they are not a game animal and even more than that, are protected wildlife. You have some stupid stereotype in your head that applies to maybe 1% of hunters, and probably less than that. Of the 40 or 50 people I know that hunt, not a single one goes out in camo and or face paint, not one. They are business owners and family men and their kids are good kids, they are not a bunch of wild ruffians or what have you.

You have some crazy idea in your head that the killing itself is considered to be "fun". That is just twisted. You also seem to think it is easy, another erroneous opinion. I know one guy that hunted for ten years before he got his first deer. Humans are not the only predators in the forest and most animals have depeloped a healthy fear of being stalked. They haven't survived for millions of years by being easy prey.

[sgtmac_46]

Every hunter I know, and that is many, eats what they kill, every single one. Of those several dozen or more, I can at this moment only think of one or two that seem to be on the bloodthirsty side of things. One of them shot a bobcat once, and he was roundly cussed out by all and even ostracized by some, for such a wasteful stupid action, as they are not a game animal and even more than that, are protected wildlife. You have some stupid stereotype in your head that applies to maybe 1% of hunters, and probably less than that. Of the 40 or 50 people I know that hunt, not a single one goes out in camo and or face paint, not one. They are business owners and family men and their kids are good kids, they are not a bunch of wild ruffians or what have you.

You have some crazy idea in your head that the killing itself is considered to be "fun". That is just twisted. You also seem to think it is easy, another erroneous opinion. I know one guy that hunted for ten years before he got his first deer. Humans are not the only predators in the forest and most animals have depeloped a healthy fear of being stalked. They haven't survived for millions of years by being easy prey. It's an error to get baited in to this distinction of 'Do you eat what you kill'? That's a requirement, though I eat most of what I kill, it's not necessary. You can admit you kill for enjoyment......hell, we EAT meat for enjoyment.....predators kill for food AND enjoyment, because that's what predators do.....and make no mistake about it, human beings are predators.

Big cats, Killer Whales, all higher predators kill more prey than required to eat when given the opportunity.....they do so because killing prey enhances your SKILL at killing prey, and the brain rewards success with pleasure.

Croup wants to deny that he is a 'predator' by simply considering himself a 'consumer'......yet he still enjoys the product of being a predator, meat....if there is anyone in unhealthy denial about their nature here, it's Croup....either be a grass eater, and stop eating meat.....or admit that he enjoys the products of killing as much as any hunter that he is disparaging, but you can't have it both ways.

As for my part, I am a KILLER.....I admit that, it's in my genes. I am a socially correct killer, I do not violate the law, I do not violate the morals and ethics I was raised with.......but I am a killer none the less.

[Fire Watch]

I dont ever see any liberals out here at my place. I guess the weather is too much for them.

That's because the only libs in the woods are either living in the trees as a form of "protest", or hugging the damn things..that makes them hard to spot..

[sgtmac_46]

That's because the only libs in the woods are either living in the trees as a form of "protest", or hugging the damn things..that makes them hard to spot.. That and they leave after they get their picture taken and go back to the city.

[waynevan]

It's an error to get baited in to this distinction of 'Do you eat what you kill'? That's a requirement, though I eat most of what I kill, it's not necessary. You can admit you kill for enjoyment......hell, we EAT meat for enjoyment.....predators kill for food AND enjoyment, because that's what predators do.....and make no mistake about it, human beings are predators.

Big cats, Killer Whales, all higher predators kill more prey than required to eat when given the opportunity.....they do so because killing prey enhances your SKILL at killing prey, and the brain rewards success with pleasure.

Croup wants to deny that he is a 'predator' by simply considering himself a 'consumer'......yet he still enjoys the product of being a predator, meat....if there is anyone in unhealthy denial about their nature here, it's Croup....either be a grass eater, and stop eating meat.....or admit that he enjoys the products of killing as much as any hunter that he is disparaging, but you can't have it both ways.

As for my part, I am a KILLER.....I admit that, it's in my genes. I am a socially correct killer, I do not violate the law, I do not violate the morals and ethics I was raised with.......but I am a killer none the less.

He is painting a picture of maniacal bloodlust, that is what he means when he uses the word "fun". That view is as twisted as the stereotype he portrays.

[sgtmac_46]

He is painting a picture of maniacal bloodlust, that is what he means when he uses the word "fun". That view is as twisted as the stereotype he portrays. I know the portrait he's painting....of course, following his logic, what does that make him for supporting a system that raises animals strictly for the slaughter, just so he can enjoy their meat? ;)

Further, even many hunters hypocritically look down on big game hunters who legally shot bear, leopards, lions and buffalo....failing to realize that, especially in the case of african game, local tribes are fed by the meat of buffalo, and incentive is given to african governments to protect wildlife habitat by the HUGE fees paid by game hunters.....habitat that would otherwise be turned to development, which is the REAL threat to habitat. A hunter who hunts fair game legally is doing a service.....he is acting as a natural predator in the food chain.

What caused the Elephant and the Rhino to be hunted out was making hunting ILLEGAL! How? Well, when the legal hunting was ban in various African nations, there was no incentive for the government to keep and pay game wardens, nor money to pay them.....and the poachers came in and slaughtered the animals. In African countries, those huge fees partially pay for game wardens and wildlife management....just as hunting licenses in the US pay for wildlife conservation and wildlife conservation officers.

The best friend of wildlife is the LEGAL hunter.

[waynevan]

The best friend of wildlife is the LEGAL hunter.

Absolutely, which is why I called them the real stewards of the environment, or something like that.

[sgtmac_46]

Absolutely, which is why I called them the real stewards of the environment, or something like that. They absolutely are.....despite their 'faux' concern about the environment, most disney inspired loons do nothing but DAMAGE wildlife, ESPECIALLY when they try to help, because their version of 'helping' is usually well intentioned, but absolutely backwards.

[Conservative Okie]

That's only because George Lucas filmed in England to avoid paying union wages in hollywood.

he had to deal with the British Unions while shooting and they were a pita for him. He talked about it on one of the shows they put together about the serires. I think it might have even been on the extras dvd in the boxed set.

Lucas had many issues with hollyweird. They didn't like that he wanted to put credits at the end of the movie and not at the opening. He got fed up with them telling him how to make his movies is why he went out of the US to make it.

[croupier101]

I don't care who it's in reference too.....when you take your family out to a restaurant and enjoy a nice juicy steak, you aren't doing it to survive.....you are doing it for PLEASURE! You could order a salad and survive....and it would probably be HEALTHIER!

Yet, you are standing in judgement over those of us who stalk and kill game animals for prey, the WHOLE thing BENEFITING wildlife in NUMEROUS ways, while you are enjoying your nice juicy guilt free steak under the rationale that since you didn't kill it, you're not responsible for it.....BS!

The difference between you enjoying your steak and a hunter killing for BOTH food and pleasure....is you have to have someone else do your dirty work for your pleasure! The hunter doesn't hide behind several layers of moral culpability to derive his pleasure....it's just him and the animal.....you have to have several layers of other people to enjoy your steak......again, how 'civilized'. :naughty:

I read all of your responses and they are just a further continuation of the rationale pleasure hunters have in killing animals for fun. I asked basic questions that after paragraph and paragraph by you and other hunters don't seem to answer. You kill animals for fun. You can pull this crap out about meat and the environment, but at the end of the day you are out there to kill animals, and you do it for fun.

Why can't you just admit that?

[croupier101]

He is painting a picture of maniacal bloodlust, that is what he means when he uses the word "fun". That view is as twisted as the stereotype he portrays.

Again, I will ask. Do hunters hunt animals for fun? Do they enjoy hunting and killing animals?

Why is that such a hard question.

The hunters on ESPN certainly look like they are having fun.

[croupier101]

Croup wants to deny that he is a 'predator' by simply considering himself a 'consumer'......yet he still enjoys the product of being a predator, meat....if there is anyone in unhealthy denial about their nature here, it's Croup....either be a grass eater, and stop eating meat.....or admit that he enjoys the products of killing as much as any hunter that he is disparaging, but you can't have it both ways.

As for my part, I am a KILLER.....I admit that, it's in my genes. I am a socially correct killer, I do not violate the law, I do not violate the morals and ethics I was raised with.......but I am a killer none the less.

I like to eat meat, and gain no excitement or pleasure from killing an animal. I doubt, unless they are a little screwed up in the head, that workers at a slaughterhouse or pig farm gain enjoyment from killing the animals. They do it because it is their job, not because slaughtering pigs and cows is fun. The same can't be said for hunters, who like to kill animals with guns.

[ImNewHere]

Again, I will ask. Do hunters hunt animals for fun? Do they enjoy hunting and killing animals?

Why is that such a hard question.

The hunters on ESPN certainly look like they are having fun.

I will admit that I enjoy using a .22 or pellet gun to play a cool game I like to call, "It flies, it dies." And I don't eat the birds. They're just rats with wings.

But now that I know they score higher on an IQ test than most liberals I know, I'll probably leave them alone and hunt liberals instead.

[croupier101]

That's because the only libs in the woods are either living in the trees as a form of "protest", or hugging the damn things..that makes them hard to spot..

Yeah, they aren't cool enough to build pretend forts and pour animal feces on the bottom.

[croupier101]

I will admit that I enjoy using a .22 or pellet gun to play a cool game I like to call, "It flies, it dies." And I don't eat the birds. They're just rats with wings.

Thank you. That is all I wanted to hear. You are killing animals for a little fun.


But now that I know they score higher on an IQ test than most liberals I know, I'll probably leave them alone and hunt liberals instead.

We are trying to set up some tutoring programs for the liberals. Give us a few more years.

[Fire Watch]

Yeah, they aren't cool enough to build pretend forts and pour animal feces on the bottom.
Ok, let's do THIS again because it was rather fun the last time.

I've never seen a hunter build a fort, pretend or otherwise. Ignorant statement #1

I've never known ANY hunter to put animal feces anywhere near anyplace he intends to hunt..never known a hunter to do ANYthing with animal feces for that matter. Ignorant statement #2


Pardon the pun, but this is like shooting fish in a barrel.

[Conservative Okie]

the only hunters I know eat what they kill.

[CaptainPike]

I disagree. I think they have alot in common.


I think it is clear that in most cases hunters hunt for fun. Do you believe that most hunters don't hunt for fun?


I have no problem with the wilderness, but I don't think a guy dressed in camo in a spray painted fort shooting at deer for fun has anything to do with wilderness.

So dog fighting and hunting have a lot of common? I was always told the best deer meat comes from a deer that didn't know it was about to die. I would imagine that jumping on a deers back and chewing it to death would somewhat ruin the flavor of the meat.

[ImNewHere]

Thank you. That is all I wanted to hear. You are killing animals for a little fun.

I'm not speaking for everyone, just for me. And they're not "little animals." They're rats with wings. Pests.

I will boil a pot full of live kittens on special occasions, but I do eat those.

We are trying to set up some tutoring programs for the liberals. Give us a few more years.

:lol:

[Maelstrom]

I stand corrected then on the Concept behind this thread. It was my Mistake, that you where claiming all Hunters where bad, etc. I see know that you did not mean that.

I get very Defensive over my Wife and by Relation her Kinfolke.

:D Ok so on to the Donner party, what's the best Recipe you have for eating Leftest? :D

stephen

For Leftists, you take the raw deal, they're fruity and nutty, sometimes they're much too sweet for a healthy diet, and should be taken with a lot of salt and fiber.

[croupier101]

I'm not speaking for everyone, just for me. And they're not "little animals." They're rats with wings. Pests.
What kind of birds are they?

I will boil a pot full of live kittens on special occasions, but I do eat those.
As long as you eat the meat, and pay $40 to the conservation society to rationalize your kill, you are fine. And actually you are really good for the environment.

[ImNewHere]

What kind of birds are they?

Oh, I don't know. I'm no ornithologist. All I know is, "it flies, it dies."

As long as you eat the meat, and pay $40 to the conservation society to rationalize your kill, you are fine. And actually you are really good for the environment.

I rationalize the kill by being hungry. I really can't indulge as often as I'd like. My neighborhood is running out of cats.

[F9thRet]

For Leftists, you take the raw deal, they're fruity and nutty, sometimes they're much too sweet for a healthy diet, and should be taken with a lot of salt and fiber.

LOL, sounds about Right.

Stephen

[Sir Gallahad]

I like to eat meat, and gain no excitement or pleasure from killing an animal. I doubt, unless they are a little screwed up in the head, that workers at a slaughterhouse or pig farm gain enjoyment from killing the animals. They do it because it is their job, not because slaughtering pigs and cows is fun. The same can't be said for hunters, who like to kill animals with guns.

You like eating meat, though. You are no better than a hunter. In both cases, an animal dies to indulge the nonessential desires of a human. In fact, since you buy your meat from a store, you are far, far worse than any hunter, because commericial meat farming is extremely destructive to the environment. Lord knows how many animals died just so you could have your steak, yet you dare pass judgement on hunters.

[CaptainPike]

You like eating meat, though. You are no better than a hunter. In both cases, an animal dies to indulge the nonessential desires of a human. In fact, since you buy your meat from a store, you are far, far worse than any hunter, because commericial meat farming is extremely destructive to the environment. Lord knows how many animals died just so you could have your steak, yet you dare pass judgement on hunters.

I disagree. Meat is essential.

[Sir Gallahad]

I disagree. Meat is essential.

Not from a dietary or nutritional perspective. Millions of people have led perfectly healthy lives on vegetarian diets.