View Full Version : PETA vs. Lobsters ... OOPS!
OldBuzzard
November 20th, 2009, 3:49 pm
A gentleman invents a 'humane way to kill lobsters.
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1153489.html
PETA decides to make a big deal of it, and...
... The animal rights group PETA bought two of the lobster devices and paid for Mr. Buckhaven and his wife to fly to the Arizona event last Saturday to demonstrate the technology.
Unfortunately, the courier service lost the two machines and the animal rights people had to look the other way as volunteers killed hundreds of lobster in boiling water for hungry supporters of the resource centre. ...
:)):)):))
Ballygrl
November 20th, 2009, 4:19 pm
A gentleman invents a 'humane way to kill lobsters.
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1153489.html
PETA decides to make a big deal of it, and...
:)):)):))
Those poor lobsters, what horrible lives they have. The few times we've gone to Red Lobster hubby had to tell me to get away from the lobsters, I think he's afraid I'm going to free them, and I've been tempted to do that many times.
Residential Bob
November 20th, 2009, 4:22 pm
Fried, and then boiled.
Hmm, sounds good, actually, like a twice-baked potato.
Apatriot
November 20th, 2009, 4:39 pm
Those poor lobsters, what horrible lives they have. The few times we've gone to Red Lobster hubby had to tell me to get away from the lobsters, I think he's afraid I'm going to free them, and I've been tempted to do that many times.
Their brains are the size of a pea. They have no idea that they have horrible lives.
birddog1
November 20th, 2009, 4:53 pm
Their brains are the size of a pea. They have no idea that they have horrible lives.
Personally I don't care what they think as they are very delicious. Hell, if I thought baby kittens tasted like lobster I would probably try one those for supper.
camarozz
November 20th, 2009, 5:07 pm
Personally I don't care what they think as they are very delicious. Hell, if I thought baby kittens tasted like lobster I would probably try one those for supper.
They Do! :cool:
Apatriot
November 20th, 2009, 5:10 pm
Personally I don't care what they think as they are very delicious. Hell, if I thought baby kittens tasted like lobster I would probably try one those for supper.
I'm not a big lobster fan, personally. (I prefer shrimp or crawfish). However, that said, I would have no problem boiling them up for friends. I would think baby kittens would taste like chicken.
Hoobeedoo Bejesus
November 20th, 2009, 5:12 pm
I just can't justify the prices restaurants charge for sea roaches.
Apatriot
November 20th, 2009, 5:17 pm
I just can't justify the prices restaurants charge for sea roaches.
Biologically, that irritates me. They are closer to being sea spiders than sea roaches (and they aren't particularly close to that).
Hoobeedoo Bejesus
November 20th, 2009, 5:24 pm
Biologically, that irritates me. They are closer to being sea spiders than sea roaches (and they aren't particularly close to that).
They are all crunchy on the outside with a stinky juicy center.
Samm
November 20th, 2009, 5:31 pm
I still laugh when Sean tells the story about how Flipper released the lobster that he gave her and her husband into a fresh water lake... where it died a slow death. :))
Laughing at Flipper, not the death of the lobster...
EnchantedFrog
November 20th, 2009, 5:34 pm
I guess PITA ranks among the few people who are morbidly stupid enough to pay $3,500 for a Lobster Euthanasia Machine.
AutoRacer55
November 20th, 2009, 6:22 pm
They are all crunchy on the outside with a stinky juicy center.
Just like...
I'll end the joke here, you figure it out.
:mrgreen:
Yunari
November 20th, 2009, 6:36 pm
I just can't justify the prices restaurants charge for sea roaches.
Hey man, if actual roaches tasted as good as lobster or crab, and they weren't disease ridden, I would harvest those bad boys in my home!
LouC
November 20th, 2009, 6:41 pm
Those poor lobsters, what horrible lives they have. The few times we've gone to Red Lobster hubby had to tell me to get away from the lobsters, I think he's afraid I'm going to free them, and I've been tempted to do that many times.
:))
"You're free, you're free, run away, run away"
They are crustaceans, they live in the depths of the cold ocean, all they ever get to do is crawl around on silt covered rocks, whale poop, and other ugly gnarly lobsters.
Getting trapped, brought to harbor, trucked to the nearest airport for a flight to some mid west Red Lobster restaurant where they get to people watch in a big tank for a short while before getting in a hot tub is likely the most exciting thing to ever happen in their lives.
The only down side is they don't get to send postcards home to the folks to tell them about their wondrous adventures, and that nice warm bath at the eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Dragon1963
November 20th, 2009, 7:00 pm
Wait, I thought execution by electrocution was cruel? :think:
Does this mean PETA thinks its okay to use the electric chair to execute criminals?
Ballygrl
November 20th, 2009, 7:35 pm
:))
"You're free, you're free, run away, run away"
They are crustaceans, they live in the depths of the cold ocean, all they ever get to do is crawl around on silt covered rocks, whale poop, and other ugly gnarly lobsters.
Getting trapped, brought to harbor, trucked to the nearest airport for a flight to some mid west Red Lobster restaurant where they get to people watch in a big tank for a short while before getting in a hot tub is likely the most exciting thing to ever happen in their lives.
The only down side is they don't get to send postcards home to the folks to tell them about their wondrous adventures, and that nice warm bath at the eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
:))
Hubby once said what the heck are you going to do with them if you swipe them out of the tank, set them free in the parking lot or highway where they'll get run over. You can bet if I ever tried to set them free? he'd tell me we're bringing them home and put them in a safe place, then when I wasn't looking he'd cook them and eat them.
Panhead0422
November 20th, 2009, 10:13 pm
British entrepreneur Simon Buckhaven said the CrustaStun system, developed over the past decade by his company Studham Technologies Limited, near London, kills the lobster with an electric charge, so the crustacean feels no "pain or distress."
VS.
The Florida State Prison Board said the CrimnaStun system, developed over the past decade by General Electronic Death Technologies Limited, kills the inmate with an electric charge, so the criminal feels no "pain or distress." This system is a replacement for the reliable Old Sparky system.
Panhead0422
November 20th, 2009, 10:15 pm
Wait, I thought execution by electrocution was cruel? :think:
Does this mean PETA thinks its okay to use the electric chair to execute criminals?
Now there is an oxymoron.:mrgreen:
PredFan
November 21st, 2009, 9:48 am
Lobster, mmmmmmmmmmmmmm............................
Val in Az
November 21st, 2009, 2:25 pm
Homeless lobsters welcome here....will have a bath of warm drawn butter waiting on you :shifty:
nortman
November 21st, 2009, 4:32 pm
Their brains are the size of a pea. They have no idea that they have horrible lives.
:)) I'm just picturnig them in the restaurant tossing lobsters on the floor screaming, "Run for your lives."
Vaard
November 22nd, 2009, 6:22 pm
i hate lobster, but i love to hear them scream.......
Greyclouds
November 23rd, 2009, 9:41 am
i hate lobster, but i love to hear them scream.......
It's actually just gas escaping from the segments of their exoskeleton when you first put them in. I know I just ruined the family "practical joke" for alot of people right now, but when you think about it, lobsters have no vocal chords.
As for the article that the OP linked to, it has a FAR better humane method of killing the lobster: Freeze them at -20 in a bag for 15 minutes (longer will freeze the meat and ruin the texture). This anesthetizes the lobster and kills it before you boil.
The electrocution machines cost $100,000 each; that's pretty ridiculous and a total "pie in the sky" idea. I guess that PETA wants to run seafood restaurants out of business with their unfeasible ideas.
mysticbeauty_nbeast
November 23rd, 2009, 12:20 pm
It's actually just gas escaping from the segments of their exoskeleton when you first put them in. I know I just ruined the family "practical joke" for alot of people right now, but when you think about it, lobsters have no vocal chords.
As for the article that the OP linked to, it has a FAR better humane method of killing the lobster: Freeze them at -20 in a bag for 15 minutes (longer will freeze the meat and ruin the texture). This anesthetizes the lobster and kills it before you boil.
The electrocution machines cost $100,000 each; that's pretty ridiculous and a total "pie in the sky" idea. I guess that PETA wants to run seafood restaurants out of business with their unfeasible ideas.
I spent most of my summers up at the beach with my grandparents. Crabbing and Loberstering were tradition..all the males in my family fished...and if lucky..brought home as 'treats' for dinner that night. I remember well the first time I heard that high pitched hiss from a lobster boil..and asked...Grandpa..is the lobster screaming? To this day I remember his response...'no honey..lobsters can't scream...his shell is.' ;) I didn't mind when moments later I had a succulent butter soaked tail on my plate. ;)
Electrocuting lobster? :rolleyes: What's next? Offering a final dinner of choice to bovines? People need to get lives....
~Mysty
Greyclouds
November 23rd, 2009, 12:26 pm
I spent most of my summers up at the beach with my grandparents. Crabbing and Loberstering were tradition..all the males in my family fishes...and if lucky..brought home as 'treats' for dinner that night. I remember well the first time I heard that high pitched hiss from a lobster boil..and asked...Grandpa..is the lobster screaming? To this day I remember his response...'no honey..lobsters can't scream...his shell is.' ;) I didn't mind when moments later I had a succulent butter soaked tail on my plate. ;)
I know quite a few families that haze each other by saying that the lobster IS screaming!
Electrocuting lobster? :rolleyes: What's next? Offering a final dinner of choice to bovines? People need to get lives....
~Mysty
Especially since the density of neurons in an invertebrate is insufficient for sensing pain like we do. I think that the equation of human beings with every animal that we consume is a logical fallacy.
The only animals that we should seek to treat with care are the super-social intellectual animals. Apart from that, we owe no other animal extraordinary care; just respect and a desire to not promote unnecessary suffering.
badkarma
November 23rd, 2009, 12:29 pm
The electrocution machines cost $100,000 each
I could save them $99,989.14 by telling them that Home Depot has a generic 20oz ripping hammer on sale for $10.86
mysticbeauty_nbeast
November 23rd, 2009, 12:33 pm
I know quite a few families that haze each other by saying that the lobster IS screaming!
Would have done me in as a child to hear that....dear lord...can't imagine the reaction I would have had thinking I was helping to torture a creature!
Especially since the density of neurons in an invertebrate is insufficient for sensing pain like we do. I think that the equation of human beings with every animal that we consume is a logical fallacy.
The only animals that we should seek to treat with care are the super-social intellectual animals. Apart from that, we owe no other animal extraordinary care; just respect and a desire to not promote unnecessary suffering.
I'm with you on the no reason to promote unnecessary suffering of any creature...for food harvest or not. There are methods that are safe and humane...witch are employed by those who work in this field/industry no? I understand what may look inhumane to an untrained eye is not necessarily inhumane to those who understand and work within the industry..right?
I believe it was a day or two ago..a thread had a article about switching out our red meat for dog. Now come on..who on earth is going to be ok with eating dog..no matter how humanely its slaughtered.
~Mysty
ALBOB2
November 23rd, 2009, 12:33 pm
Personally I don't care what they think as they are very delicious. Hell, if I thought baby kittens tasted like lobster I would probably try one those for supper.
Sorry, you're out of luck, baby kittens do NOT taste like lobster.....................they taste more like baby seal. ;)
Greyclouds
November 23rd, 2009, 1:02 pm
Would have done me in as a child to hear that....dear lord...can't imagine the reaction I would have had thinking I was helping to torture a creature!
Which is exactly why some families use it to haze people ;)
Like when I first started camping as a cub scout, some of the older boy scouts tried to tell us that the tiny little brown spheres we'd find out in the middle of the fields were "smart pellets" and that if you'd eat some, you'd learn something new! Luckily for me, my family owned rabbits, so I knew what rabbit droppings looked like! :lol:
I'm with you on the no reason to promote unnecessary suffering of any creature...for food harvest or not. There are methods that are safe and humane...witch are employed by those who work in this field/industry no? I understand what may look inhumane to an untrained eye is not necessarily inhumane to those who understand and work within the industry..right?
Most of the techniques used ARE humane, though there are cases of unwarranted cruelty on massive-scale farms. Each needs to be judged on a case-by-case basis.
I believe it was a day or two ago..a thread had a article about switching out our red meat for dog. Now come on..who on earth is going to be ok with eating dog..no matter how humanely its slaughtered.
~Mysty
As Americans, we find it abhorrent to eat dogs. In other cultures though? It is actually a delicacy.
I wouldn't advocate eating dogs, but then again, I'm biased.