10-Year Old Tased By Police Officer In Arkansas!

[Paul-w]

WOW! :eek:

Source (http://www.4029tv.com/news/21638427/detail.html)
OZARK, Ark. -- Ozark police said they were called to a home where a mother asked for help with her unruly child, but the 10-year-old's father said he's outraged at the force police used against his daughter.

"I would like to say Ozark police Tased this little girl right here. Ten years old and [they] shot electricity through her body, and I want to know how the heck in God's green earth can they get away with this," said the girl's father, Anthony Medlock.

Medlock said his daughter was at her mother's house when Ozark police Officer Dustin Bradshaw shocked her in the back with a Taser and arrested her.

"If you can't pick the kid up and take her to your car, handcuff her, then I don't think you need to be an officer," Medlock said.

Medlock said his daughter does show signs of having emotional issues, but she "doesn't deserve to be treated like a dog. She's not a tiger."

According to a police report, the officer was called to the home by the mother and witnessed the child kicking and screaming.

The officer's statement said the girl's mother, Kelly Hamlert, told him to use a Taser on her if he needed to.

The officer did shock the girl after he said she kicked him in the groin.

"He had no other choice. He had to get the child under control," said Ozark police Chief Jim Noggle.

Noggle said the officer shocked the girl for about a second.

Ozark police said it is their policy to use a Taser on someone who is a threat to others, no matter their age.

Noggle said simply restraining the child could be harmful.

"Well, if he tried to restrain her, he might hurt her by restraining her. If you grab somebody, you can slip an arm out of joint. They can slip from you and fall on the ground," Noggle said.

"I don't know what kind of policy it is. I don't think it's right," Medlock said.

Medlock said this is not the first time the girl's mother has called police to take her daughter to a juvenile facility. He said he will now try to get custody of his daughter.

"She just wants somebody to love her, and I do," he said.

40/29 News checked with several other police agencies about their taser policies. The Fort Smith Police Department said it will only uses a Taser on a person 14 years old or older if they are a threat to someone.

Fort Smith Police said it's usually the discretion of each police department to make their own policies on using a Taser.

Noggle said no action is being taken against the Ozark officer who used the Taser on the girl, and he said her case will go before the juvenile court system.

[MrShotShot]

Well we just had everyone up in arms here in Syracuse because a kid got tasered in school by a resource officer.

Within two weeks, that kid had shot up a home and was sitting in jail.

[birddog1]

"Noggle said no action is being taken against the Ozark officer who used the Taser on the girl, and he said her case will go before the juvenile court system."

There might not be any official sanctions coming his way but I bet his friends and co-workers are having a good laugh at his expense due to the fact that he couldn't control a 10 yr old girl without using a taser.

[bryan92]

"Noggle said no action is being taken against the Ozark officer who used the Taser on the girl, and he said her case will go before the juvenile court system."

There might not be any official sanctions coming his way but I bet his friends and co-workers are having a good laugh at his expense due to the fact that he couldn't control a 10 yr old girl without using a taser.
Too bad the mother or father couldn't and had to call the police.

[birddog1]

Too bad the mother or father couldn't and had to call the police.

He probably should have given them a good jolt or two while he was at it.

[DLaw911]

WOW! :eek:

Source (http://www.4029tv.com/news/21638427/detail.html)Kicked the officer in the groin and she only got a one second shock.
I would have held down the button until her hair stood up on end and the Taser battery was dead.

[gdoane]

It's all well and good to assume that a full grown man can take down a girl half his size, but doing that without anybody getting hurt is a whole 'nuther equation.

It was and is completely obvious that this kid has no respect for authority whatsoever and that her parent (using that term in the biological sense only) exerted no command or control over the situation expecting the police to raise her kid.

Police actually have a job description. I've seen one. Raising kids ain't in there.

If a parent cannot control their own child, then how in the heck is a cop expected to do a better job of it? All he's got is a badge and a gun. He's not a social worker and all he wants to do is live another day without some jackass causing him injury or death before he clocks out.

The article reads like a 10-year-old girl is no threat to anybody. Like heck! A ten-year-old girl is going to be about 5 feet tall and over 80 pounds, making a pit bull look like a hamster in comparison. If she wants to kill you, then she's more than capable of doing just that.

The deadliest predator on Earth is Us. No other species can kill everything it meets, no other species is a match for every creature on this planet, but humans are. There's nothing we can't kill.

The article acts like this 10-year-old girl was no threat at all. Nevermind that she's a half-grown member of the deadliest species on the planet. Nevermind that she's so out of control that her OWN MOTHER called the cops on her. Nevermind that she ASSAULTED A UNIFORMED POLICE OFFICER.

Screw the taser. The cop would have been fully justified to pump her full of lead.

Billy the Kid was 10 years old when he killed his first man. A cop who wants to live long enough to get his next paycheck had better be willing to take every threat stone cold seriously.

Even if it's only 10 years old and 80 pounds. Kind of like a Pit Bull.

[DLaw911]

.snipped.....Screw the taser. The cop would have been fully justified to pump her full of lead. You're killing me, Gene!

[gdoane]

You're killing me, Gene!

I probably talk to cops about as much as you, and the ones I talk to call the domestic violence calls the most dangerous of all.

This was a domestic violence call. The kid knew the house, knows where every weapon is, knows the layout and escalated the violence.

Think of it this way: if you're a cop in a stranger's house and an occupant of that house wants to assault you, then exactly how safe are you going to feel about your continued survival?

Yeah, she's 10 years old and in the 5th grade. And she knows where every gun, every knife, and every chainsaw in the house is at and you don't. If she wins, you're dead and the game is stacked in her favor on her home territory.

I think the taser showed remarkable restraint on the part of the cop. I'd have used the real gun.

[LouC]

I really don't see the problem here?

Shoot if I thought I could have gotten away with it I would have borrowed my dad's cattle prod to have taught my grandson that when grandpa says it is "time to get up" that it is "time to get up" not merely a weak non binding suggestion. :)

[JediMindTrick]

So two parents cannot control their own 10 year old child but they figure a cop somehow can without resorting to force? Sometimes I really despise worthless parents who expect the cops to be the disciplinarians for their children.

[Broseph]

Somebody post a thread when the cops actually do something rational and appropriate for once instead of power tripping while being paid your tax dollars to do it.

Then we'll be surprised and you'll get a ton of hits.

[FidelisAdMortem]

One day parents will be able to raise their children without calling the police.

[CaptainPike]

This is pretty lame.

The cop obviously needs some training if he's gonna whip out his taser on a 10 year old.

[CaptainPike]

So two parents cannot control their own 10 year old child but they figure a cop somehow can without resorting to force? Sometimes I really despise worthless parents who expect the cops to be the disciplinarians for their children.

I bet they could control the kid just fine if they weren't worried about a bunch of busy bodies sticking their nose in where it doesn't belong.

They called the cops before others had a chance to call the cops on them. You know if they wrestled the kid to the ground and gave her the beating she deserved, they'd be in jail.

[FidelisAdMortem]

But somehow a cop wrestling the 10 yr old to the ground wouldnt result in the same sort of controversy?

[Sinister Rouge]

Bet she won't be kicking any more cops...

[Residential Bob]

I really don't see the problem here?

Shoot if I thought I could have gotten away with it I would have borrowed my dad's cattle prod to have taught my grandson that when grandpa says it is "time to get up" that it is "time to get up" not merely a weak non binding suggestion. :)Ah, the old cattle prod incentive. I forgot about those. A childhood friend of mine told me once that his dad used to threaten him with a cattle prod, and I thought, "Cool, I wonder what that would feel like."

Hey, that makes me wonder: how do I go about getting tasered without wetting myself?

[JediMindTrick]

I bet they could control the kid just fine if they weren't worried about a bunch of busy bodies sticking their nose in where it doesn't belong.

They called the cops before others had a chance to call the cops on them. You know if they wrestled the kid to the ground and gave her the beating she deserved, they'd be in jail.

The kid was obviously out of control. No one disputes that. The kid kicked the officer in the groin. No one disputes that. At this point the officer is faced with the decision of how to control the kid. His options at that point are all going to look bad to those prone to hate the use of force by police. He can manhandle the kid and risk injuring the kid (broken bones and dislocated joints are common when dealing with a thrashing person and you go hands on, especially with a huge size / weight difference), he can pepper spray the kid, or he can taser the kid. The cop chose the least violent and least likely method to control the kid by tasering. Without a doubt the cop could have wrestled the kid under control but at a much greater risk of hurting the kid than by tasering.

[gdoane]

The kid was obviously out of control. No one disputes that. The kid kicked the officer in the groin. No one disputes that. At this point the officer is faced with the decision of how to control the kid. His options at that point are all going to look bad to those prone to hate the use of force by police. He can manhandle the kid and risk injuring the kid (broken bones and dislocated joints are common when dealing with a thrashing person and you go hands on, especially with a huge size / weight difference), he can pepper spray the kid, or he can taser the kid. The cop chose the least violent and least likely method to control the kid by tasering. Without a doubt the cop could have wrestled the kid under control but at a much greater risk of hurting the kid than by tasering.

That reminds me of an interview I saw of UFC fighters, reality TV fights who said that about 80% of fights wind up on the ground. Basically, if things go physical, it's going to follow the laws of gravity.

Detention officers call them "polyester pileups" as situations out of control take significant outnumbering. They don't allow guns in jail so the basic strength of authority is the strength of numbers.

I totally agree that every possible outcome was ugly. There was no way for this cop to resolve the situation and make it look pretty. It was a little girl acting out and waaaay out of control assaulting a cop who had been called by her own mother. This wasn't little red riding hood, this was a brutal out of control animal out to hurt somebody. She was exactly the kind of person police are supposed to apprehend.

A physical assault took place. That's not disputed. The police officer had been contacted because of a report of violence. That's not disputed either. The responding officer was then physically assaulted. The duty of the officer was to stop the violence and enforce the law using reasonable force.

I don't see how the taser could be anything but reasonable force. I'd support using a 9MM or better in this situation because if the cop loses this fight, then a violent perp has their gun.

That would be a bad thing.

It's amazingly expensive to put a cop on the street. Given the equipped cruiser, the training, and the infrastructure, it's not even a stretch to say that you're looking at $100,000 every time you see a cop's Crown Victoria with a lightbar on it.

Losing is not an option that a cop enjoys. If the bad guy wins, he has the gun, the taser, the cruiser, everything the good guy had.

What would have happened if the little girl won this fight? She'd have had a gun, a police cruiser, and nothing to lose. I dunno if she'd have tried to drive the cruiser but I wouldn't put anything past somebody who'd attack a uniformed police officer.

[Panhead0422]

I really don't see the problem here?

Shoot if I thought I could have gotten away with it I would have borrowed my dad's cattle prod to have taught my grandson that when grandpa says it is "time to get up" that it is "time to get up" not merely a weak non binding suggestion. :)

The Army way works better and is more impressive. Grab one side of the mattress or bed frame, lift and flip. The sluggard will normally wake up not later than the sudden air/ground interface. :mrgreen:

[LouC]

The Army way works better and is more impressive. Grab one side of the mattress or bed frame, lift and flip. The sluggard will normally wake up not later than the sudden air/ground interface. :mrgreen:

I actually did that one time. Grandson was not impressed. But he was awake. ;)

[LouC]

...Hey, that makes me wonder: how do I go about getting tasered without wetting myself?

Prior extreme dehydration.

Penile plug or tourniquet.

[birddog1]

Bet she won't be kicking any more cops...

Given how she is acting at 10 yr old I would place my bet on this not being the last police officer she comes into contact with and assaults.

[CaptPops]

Nay, he should have used a 10 second blast from his pepper spray. That should have cleared the house for a while...

[Panhead0422]

:mrgreen:I actually did that one time. Grandson was not impressed. But he was awake. ;)

Well heck, one out of two ain't bad.

[JediMindTrick]

Read a more complete story about this incident and the story is not what its been portrayed in most media articles and by the parents.

The officer didn't actually taser the girl in the way people think of when they hear tasering. What the officer did was drive stun the girl using the taser. When people think of tasering they think of the prongs shooting out and the person being immobilized. Drive stunning is when you remove the cartridge and apply the taser directly to the skin. It causes pain and nothing else, before tasers this is how Electronic Restraint Devices work. They are typically used in this fashion when your trying to gain control of someones arm but they have it locked up and you can't get it behind their back. Using brute force to get the arm behind the back can cause joint dislocation so you drive stun them to cause pain which will generally cause them to stop fighting long enough to gain control of the arm.

[smyrna]

Da-da is a useless piece with a mouth and no action. He wants to take over now??????? Please...........:rolleyes:

[Clintville]

Well we just had everyone up in arms here in Syracuse because a kid got tasered in school by a resource officer.

Within two weeks, that kid had shot up a home and was sitting in jail.
We're talking about a ten year old girl with discipline problems.

[Sinister Rouge]

We're talking about a ten year old girl with discipline problems.


Well maybe her parents should have done a better job.

[Clintville]

Screw the taser. The cop would have been fully justified to pump her full of lead.

That's retarded. And disgusting.

[Clintville]

I think the taser showed remarkable restraint on the part of the cop. I'd have used the real gun.
No you wouldn't have. And you would go to prison.

[Gabby]

One day parents will be able to raise their children without calling the police.

No kidding. When I was a kid I knew better than to act like that brat did. My parents would have been allowed to handle it and the law would have backed them up.

Today a parent cannot handle a child acting out like that because the brat will call child protective services and the parents would be in trouble. Kids today know this and often use it against the parents.

The cop did what he had to do. Maybe the brat will think twice before throwing a fit like that again.

[gdoane]

No you wouldn't have. And you would go to prison.

Better that than going to a grave.

You do realize that if a cop loses control of their gun to a bad guy, that the bad guy has control of the gun, right?

You do whatever it takes to keep a gun out of the hands of evil, and this girl, the size of a pit bull with all the viciousness and ferocity of the most dangerous predator the world has ever known would have gotten that gun if the cop didn't work to prevent such a disaster via any and all available means.

I look at the bigger picture. That girl assaulting a police officer was clearly out of control and if she had bested the cop, she'd be out of control with a lethal weapon.

Obviously, that outcome is so unacceptable that it is to be avoided at all costs. If it takes a nuclear option, then fine, it does and that's STILL better than the alternative.

Think it through.

Let's say that the girl kicked the officer in the groin (she did, actually) and the cop, being a total gentleman, did nothing to prevent the assault from disabling him. Now he's on the ground, she's pulling his gun out of his holster and where do you think it goes from there? Do you think she's going to suddenly become cute and kind and turn into a Disney Princess or what?

She's EVIL. 100% purebred completely EVIL and without restraint of any sort of morals or convictions. She'd murder a man in a heartbeat if she's willing to assault a uniformed police officer. A dog who did half of what she did would have been put down by now.

[Mobulis]

Better that than going to a grave.

You do realize that if a cop loses control of their gun to a bad guy, that the bad guy has control of the gun, right?

You do whatever it takes to keep a gun out of the hands of evil, and this girl, the size of a pit bull with all the viciousness and ferocity of the most dangerous predator the world has ever known would have gotten that gun if the cop didn't work to prevent such a disaster via any and all available means.

I look at the bigger picture. That girl assaulting a police officer was clearly out of control and if she had bested the cop, she'd be out of control with a lethal weapon.

Obviously, that outcome is so unacceptable that it is to be avoided at all costs. If it takes a nuclear option, then fine, it does and that's STILL better than the alternative.

Think it through.

Let's say that the girl kicked the officer in the groin (she did, actually) and the cop, being a total gentleman, did nothing to prevent the assault from disabling him. Now he's on the ground, she's pulling his gun out of his holster and where do you think it goes from there? Do you think she's going to suddenly become cute and kind and turn into a Disney Princess or what?

She's EVIL. 100% purebred completely EVIL and without restraint of any sort of morals or convictions. She'd murder a man in a heartbeat if she's willing to assault a uniformed police officer. A dog who did half of what she did would have been put down by now.


You talk like a cop is a holy warrior of god, they are men nothing more nothing less.

[gdoane]

You talk like a cop is a holy warrior of god, they are men nothing more nothing less.

They are men, and as men, they CAN LOSE A FIGHT.

So what happens if a cop loses a fight to an out of control punk? Do you think that's IT? That it's over and everything goes back to a normal situation? Or is there an out of control punk with a gun running around with the only gun in sight?

The punk saw victory as an option, otherwise she'd have never assaulted an armed police officer in the hopes of getting his gun and murdering people with it. The cop could not see losing as an option because if he did, innocent people are left to the mercy of a maniac with his gun.

You're right, cops are human. My point is that losing is not an option in some cases, and this was such a case.

[Mobulis]

They are men, and as men, they CAN LOSE A FIGHT.

So what happens if a cop loses a fight to an out of control punk? Do you think that's IT? That it's over and everything goes back to a normal situation? Or is there an out of control punk with a gun running around with the only gun in sight?

The punk saw victory as an option, otherwise she'd have never assaulted an armed police officer in the hopes of getting his gun and murdering people with it. The cop could not see losing as an option because if he did, innocent people are left to the mercy of a maniac with his gun.

You're right, cops are human. My point is that losing is not an option in some cases, and this was such a case.

I was referring to this.

She's EVIL. 100% purebred completely EVIL and without restraint of any sort of morals or convictions. She'd murder a man in a heartbeat if she's willing to assault a uniformed police officer.

ANY person is willing to assault a uniformed police officer under the right conditions, does this mean that EVERYONE is "EVIL. 100% purebred completely EVIL and without restraint of any sort of morals or convictions."

[birddog1]

Read a more complete story about this incident and the story is not what its been portrayed in most media articles and by the parents.

The officer didn't actually taser the girl in the way people think of when they hear tasering. What the officer did was drive stun the girl using the taser. When people think of tasering they think of the prongs shooting out and the person being immobilized. Drive stunning is when you remove the cartridge and apply the taser directly to the skin. It causes pain and nothing else, before tasers this is how Electronic Restraint Devices work. They are typically used in this fashion when your trying to gain control of someones arm but they have it locked up and you can't get it behind their back. Using brute force to get the arm behind the back can cause joint dislocation so you drive stun them to cause pain which will generally cause them to stop fighting long enough to gain control of the arm.

Taser is the new buzz word for the media, I hear and see it misused by them all the time. As far as I know there aren't very many if any Tasers available to private citizens yet every time a stun gun is used by someone the news outlets say they were tasered.

[smyrna]

A 10 year old...girl...whew...vicious....that cop surely dodged that bullet.:))

The officer listened to who... the mother?:))

She's doing such an excellent job raising her child thus far, that you would definitely want to take her advice on how to handle this situation.:))

A tazer!:))

[JediMindTrick]

Taser is the new buzz word for the media, I hear and see it misused by them all the time. As far as I know there aren't very many if any Tasers available to private citizens yet every time a stun gun is used by someone the news outlets say they were tasered.

Any private citizen can buy a taser. They even sell them in hot pink for the ladies (no joke). Taser has a policy that if you have to use it, say on a mugger, they will replace the taser for free as the idea is you taser the bad guy, drop it, and run while he's immobilized.

http://www.itaser.com/

[birddog1]

Any private citizen can buy a taser. They even sell them in hot pink for the ladies (no joke). Taser has a policy that if you have to use it, say on a mugger, they will replace the taser for free as the idea is you taser the bad guy, drop it, and run while he's immobilized.

http://www.itaser.com/

I did not know that.

The media still get it wrong in my area all the time regardless as I have seen them post pictures of stun guns in their news report and use the word Taser.

[birddog1]

Any private citizen can buy a taser. They even sell them in hot pink for the ladies (no joke). Taser has a policy that if you have to use it, say on a mugger, they will replace the taser for free as the idea is you taser the bad guy, drop it, and run while he's immobilized.

http://www.itaser.com/

For $350 I can buy a very nice used revolver or semi-auto pistol and have more than one chance to defend myself. I don't believe I will be owning one of those and really don't know why many other people would either.

[gdoane]

For $350 I can buy a very nice used revolver or semi-auto pistol and have more than one chance to defend myself. I don't believe I will be owning one of those and really don't know why many other people would either.

I'd never own one just because of the theory of bringing a knife to a gunfight is a bad idea.

What does a tazer beat?

Certainly not a rifle or a handgun. Does a tazer beat a knife? I wouldn't be willing to bet my ass on it. How about a crowbar or a baseball bat?

About the only battle I can think of where a tazer would surely come out on top is a pillow fight. Even then a pillow might block the darts.

[birddog1]

I'd never own one just because of the theory of bringing a knife to a gunfight is a bad idea.

What does a tazer beat?

Certainly not a rifle or a handgun. Does a tazer beat a knife? I wouldn't be willing to bet my ass on it. How about a crowbar or a baseball bat?

About the only battle I can think of where a tazer would surely come out on top is a pillow fight. Even then a pillow might block the darts.

I fully agree! What happens if you miss or if there is more than one attacker after you? Your pretty much screwed in those two situations.

[Clintville]

I look at the bigger picture. That girl assaulting a police officer was clearly out of control and if she had bested the cop, she'd be out of control with a lethal weapon.

If he cannot prevent a ten year old girl from grabbing his gun he probably shouldn't be a cop. And if you have to kill her because something like that has the possibility of happening, then you definitely shouldn't be on the force, or in society.


She's EVIL. 100% purebred completely EVIL and without restraint of any sort of morals or convictions. She'd murder a man in a heartbeat if she's willing to assault a uniformed police officer.

And you base that on what? Kicking someone in the balls, even a police officer, does not make you some kind of serial killer.


A dog who did half of what she did would have been put down by now.
We aren't talking about a dog.

[Clintville]

They are men, and as men, they CAN LOSE A FIGHT.

Again, you lose a fight to an unarmed ten year old girl then you shouldn't be a cop.


So what happens if a cop loses a fight to an out of control punk? Do you think that's IT? That it's over and everything goes back to a normal situation? Or is there an out of control punk with a gun running around with the only gun in sight?

The punk saw victory as an option, otherwise she'd have never assaulted an armed police officer in the hopes of getting his gun and murdering people with it. The cop could not see losing as an option because if he did, innocent people are left to the mercy of a maniac with his gun.

You're right, cops are human. My point is that losing is not an option in some cases, and this was such a case.
Where are you getting the "she reached for the gun" thing? I didn't see that in the article.

[JediMindTrick]

For $350 I can buy a very nice used revolver or semi-auto pistol and have more than one chance to defend myself. I don't believe I will be owning one of those and really don't know why many other people would either.

Many states make it hard to buy guns. And some people just don't like guns.

[gdoane]

If he cannot prevent a ten year old girl from grabbing his gun he probably shouldn't be a cop. And if you have to kill her because something like that has the possibility of happening, then you definitely shouldn't be on the force, or in society.

A ten year old girl is probably 5 foot tall and 80 pounds. She's as big as an average pit bull terrier and a member of a deadlier breed of animals, namely humans.


And you base that on what? Kicking someone in the balls, even a police officer, does not make you some kind of serial killer.

It does make you pretty vicious. Not even pit bulls do that.

We aren't talking about a dog.

We're talking about something a lot more dangerous than any dog.

[Panhead0422]

Taser is the new buzz word for the media, I hear and see it misused by them all the time. As far as I know there aren't very many if any Tasers available to private citizens yet every time a stun gun is used by someone the news outlets say they were tasered.

Altered quote from above: Firearm is the new buzz word for the media, I hear and see it misused by them all the time. As far as I know there are very many guns available to law abiding citizens yet every time a handgun is used by a law abiding citizen the news outlets imply they were criminally used by otherwise law abiding citizens.:evil:

[Clintville]

A ten year old girl is probably 5 foot tall and 80 pounds. She's as big as an average pit bull terrier and a member of a deadlier breed of animals, namely humans.

Again, you lose a fight to an unarmed ten year old girl, you shouldn't be a cop.


We're talking about something a lot more dangerous than any dog.
Not really. I would rather take on an unarmed ten year old girl than a ****ed off pit bull.