Report: Suspect pushed Islam on patients

[samurai7]

The Muslim Army psychiatrist who allegedly opened fire on fellow soldiers at Fort Hood and killed 13 aggressively pushed Islam on his patients to the point he was disciplined over the issue, according to a report today.

Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, 39, is suspected of opening fire with two handguns yesterday at the Texas base's readiness center, where soldiers were getting last-minute checkups before deploying to Iraq and Afghanistan .

A source told National Public Radio's Joseph Shapiro that Hasan was given a period of probation early in his postgraduate work for proselytizing Islam with coworkers and soldiers he was treating.

The source was someone who worked with Hasan at the time, NPR reported.

Hasan did his early postgraduate work at the Uniformed Service Universityi of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md.

Hasan, reportedly is in stable condition after being shot four times by a female civilian officer, who also was wounded. He was upset about his scheduled overseas deployment, according to Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson of Texas.

Nader Hasan, the suspect's first cousin, told Fox News his relative was a "good" American, was born in Arlington, Va., and went to local high schools and then Virginia Tech.

The Associated Press has said authorities actually started looking into Hasan's activities several months ago after Internet postings about suicide bombings were linked to him.

Robert Spencer at JihadWatch.org, says the evidence points to a clear link between Hasan's Muslim faith and the massacre.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=115231

Why don't we face up to the fact that political correctness killed these people. The warning signs were screaming, but no one would do anything about it, lest they be called bigoted.

:rolleyes:

[mkh]

Because it didn't. A wacked out nutjob witha gun killed these people.

[Floydian]

Because it didn't. A wacked out nutjob witha gun killed these people.

Oh Snap!

[mmancil]

Because it didn't. A wacked out nutjob witha gun killed these people.

Yep.

[mobiusptc]

i read this article a little while back that showed that a very small minorty but powerfull was pushing christianity, let me see if i can dig it up.

[BillBrown]

Plenty was known about this guy.
He shouldn't have been in the military.
We need to find out why he was and who kept him there.

[ExDem]

Is it the job of a psychologist or psychiatrist to push any religion?

[mobiusptc]

http://harpers.org/archive/2009/05/0082488

there it is

i honestly do not know how the vast majority of the military is since i havent been able to serve yet but this article was reall sad to read.

[JStasc08]

I understand that it's suspect when somebody tries to justify suicide bombings like this man has, but what danger can one assume comes with proselytizing?

[E7ALR]

This is going to end up being a case of an individual, who was deeply conflicted between his view of the requirements of his religious beliefs and his duties as an officer of the US Army. I don't see anything that says this guy is some planted operative, but rather someone with a fundamentalist holding of his religion.

I'm guessing, but this guy's family probably imigrated from the West Bank (which Jordan claimed at that time) to the US after the 67 War where Israel siezed the West Bank, Gaza and th Golen Heights.

[MR. MISTER]

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=115231

Why don't we face up to the fact that political correctness killed these people.

Is that the conservative's version of "guns kill people" ?

[fjccommish]

"I'm guessing, but this guy's family probably imigrated from the West Bank (which Jordan claimed at that time) to the US after the 67 War where Israel siezed the West Bank, Gaza and th Golen Heights."

It's already come out that his parents were from Palestine and he listed his nationality as Palestinian despite being born in America.

"http://harpers.org/archive/2009/05/0082488"

So a soldier painting something on his truck and thus being shot at by Islamic extremists is the same as an Islamic extremist killing 12 people. Got it.

[Trip]

Is that the conservative's version of "guns kill people" ?

Guns don't tell you to stand in front of a threat, guard down, and then claim the results were entirely unexpected.

Political Correctness does.

[Navy Nuke]

Let me make an important point here:

WND is not a credible source. Why WND is not credible (http://mediamatters.org/research/200408060010).

Therefore, this topic as well as the other one that is based on 'facts' taken from this absurd website, are both based on information that is not backed up and therefore not proven to be true.


Is there anyone here that thinks that Media Matters is a credile source? Nope. Using another source that's not credible to put down another source that you are deeming as not credbile really doesn't work...

[MR. MISTER]

Guns don't tell you to stand in front of a threat, guard down, and then claim the results were entirely unexpected.

Is that what the Army's doing these days? A new directive from the CnC perhaps?

[JerryN]

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=115231

Why don't we face up to the fact that political correctness killed these people. The warning signs were screaming, but no one would do anything about it, lest they be called bigoted.

:rolleyes:

Well, we also have a system of justice here that doesn't punish you for what we _think_ you might do.
Remember Gerald Ford? He was shot at twice, once by Queeky Fromme from the Manson gang,
and once by Sara Jane Moore.
From Wiki:
"Moore had been evaluated by the Secret Service earlier in 1975, but that organization had decided that she presented no danger to the President.[7] She had been picked up by police on an illegal handgun charge the day before the Ford incident, but was released from arrest. The police confiscated her .44 caliber pistol and 113 rounds of pistol ammunition.

Moore was about 40 feet away from President Ford[8] when she fired a single shot at him with a different pistol, a .38 caliber revolver."

Would you like to change to a "Minority Report" environment where the thought police arrest you for what you might do?

[Camp]

This is going to end up being a case of an individual, who was deeply conflicted between his view of the requirements of his religious beliefs and his duties as an officer of the US Army. I don't see anything that says this guy is some planted operative, but rather someone with a fundamentalist holding of his religion.

I'm guessing, but this guy's family probably imigrated from the West Bank (which Jordan claimed at that time) to the US after the 67 War where Israel siezed the West Bank, Gaza and th Golen Heights.


Sirhan Sirhan Syndrome...


Will never happen again I am sure.

[spinach]

Is it the job of a psychologist or psychiatrist to push any religion?

Well, it's unethical to do that to persons who are there for treatment, unless the person wanting treatment asks for the input.


but according to the first amendment, it would be legal.
as far as the military goes, what he was doing was probably well over the line

it depends on what the actual wording of the rules is about mental health treatment in the military.

[spinach]

I understand that it's suspect when somebody tries to justify suicide bombings like this man has, but what danger can one assume comes with proselytizing?

it depends on what is being said.

if he is encouraging distraught people to wage jihad against non-muslims

that would be a bit different than telling someone "love your neighbor as yourself"

[Trip]

Is that what the Army's doing these days? A new directive from the CnC perhaps?

Not sure how that works in your argument.

We were attacked on 911 after PC Clinton spent time treating terroristic acts like a "police actions". Clinton kept having Americans stand in front of that threat and then sought to punish those who then caused harm under the law ..... when they don't acknowledge ANY law.

Now we're fighting wars.


It has the same unbridled ignorance used in outlawing guns ... when the criminals dont respect laws in the first place.