Obama says "Don't jump to conclusions" on shooting

[gb2004]

"We don't know all the answers yet. And I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts," Obama said in a Rose Garden statement otherwise devoted to the economy.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33712858/ns/us_news-tragedy_at_fort_hood/

Unlike he did in the not so distant past:

"I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry. Number two, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home," he said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5895861/Barack-Obama-embroiled-in-row-after-accusing-police-of-acting-stupidly.html

[BillBrown]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33712858/ns/us_news-tragedy_at_fort_hood/

Unlike he did in the not so distant past:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5895861/Barack-Obama-embroiled-in-row-after-accusing-police-of-acting-stupidly.html

You can bet the fed's official investigation will be sanitized.
Islam probably won't even be mentioned.

[1997lancer]

Any shout outs today?

[george kaplan]

You can bet the fed's official investigation will be sanitized.
Islam probably won't even be mentioned.

Of course not.

This was just an incident carried out by some deranged individual because he didn't get a toy with his happy meal....

[pattyk]

well, since the terrorist served on Oblamer's transition team, of course the ****er would say that. (read on another thread)

I can't take another 3 yrs of this dirtbag.

[PuckHappy]

This was just an incident carried out by some deranged individual because he didn't get a toy with his happy meal....

In Odramas dreams.

[PuckHappy]

well, since the terrorist served on Oblamer's transition team, of course the ****er would say that. (read on another thread)

I can't take another 3 yrs of this dirtbag.

So yesterdays shooting was literally an "inside" job.

[mmancil]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33712858/ns/us_news-tragedy_at_fort_hood/

Unlike he did in the not so distant past:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5895861/Barack-Obama-embroiled-in-row-after-accusing-police-of-acting-stupidly.html

Oh snap!!

Nice catch!!

[Ballygrl]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33712858/ns/us_news-tragedy_at_fort_hood/

Unlike he did in the not so distant past:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5895861/Barack-Obama-embroiled-in-row-after-accusing-police-of-acting-stupidly.html

And if we do jump to conclusions and they seem to be pointing to those conclusions being right, then can we expect another Obama apology tour to the middle east again?

[Czhorat]

well, since the terrorist served on Oblamer's transition team, of course the ****er would say that.

"served on his transition team" is so misleading a way of stating this that I'm comfortable just calling it a lie.

[PuckHappy]

"served on his transition team" is so misleading a way of stating this that I'm comfortable just calling it a lie.

Kind of like "Change we can believe in" and "If you like your Insurance plan, you can keep it".

[Shawna]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33712858/ns/us_news-tragedy_at_fort_hood/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33712858/ns/us_news-tragedy_at_fort_hood/)

Unlike he did in the not so distant past:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5895861/Barack-Obama-embroiled-in-row-after-accusing-police-of-acting-stupidly.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5895861/Barack-Obama-embroiled-in-row-after-accusing-police-of-acting-stupidly.html)


Good post.

It seems Obama feels that "conclusion jumping" is only inappropriate when it involves one of his Muslim brothers.

[Vic Daring]

well, since the terrorist served on Oblamer's transition team, of course the ****er would say that. (read on another thread)


Bzzzzt. Wrong. But please, don't let your wrongness stop you in gleefully stepping over the bodies of dead soldiers to take cheap political shots at the President.



I can't take another 3 yrs of this dirtbag.

That's SEVEN more years.

[DelawareGuy]

That's SEVEN more years.

and if he does make sure he gives a shout out to ACORN before attempting to appear solemn at the loss of military lives or make a decision on troops in harms way

[lee66219]

Bzzzzt. Wrong. But please, don't let your wrongness stop you in gleefully stepping over the bodies of dead soldiers to take cheap political shots at the President.




That's SEVEN more years.

Not a chance Vic, not a chance. Unemployment is going out the roof and he is doing nothing about that. Economy is in a shambles and all he has is some nutso saying about he has a mob. His popularity is low and going lower.

[Cold_War_Warrior]

Just because he’s a Muslim…just because he screamed, Allah Akbar while killing American’s…just because he was against the war he was ordered to be deployed…just because he tried to convert his patients to Islam…just because he was a mass murderer set on suicide by cop and failed to die….

Don’t jump to any conclusions….

Like what?

[Bluenose177]

Just because he’s a Muslim…just because he screamed, Allah Akbar while killing American’s…just because he was against the war he was ordered to be deployed…just because he tried to convert his patients to Islam…just because he was a mass murderer set on suicide by cop and failed to die….

Don’t jump to any conclusions….

Like what?

racist ;)

(because you know that's coming next)

[muhadeeb99]

Speaking of "Jumping to conclusions", didn't Obama conclude unemployment wouldn't get higher than 8%.
Didn't Obama conclude that healthcare would be on his desk by Aug.31st.
Didn't Obama conclude Gitmo would close by January by executive order.
Didn't Obama conclude he would unite the country.

[FREE DON]

Speaking of "Jumping to conclusions", didn't Obama conclude unemployment wouldn't get higher than 8%.
Didn't Obama conclude that healthcare would be on his desk by Aug.31st.
Didn't Obama conclude Gitmo would close by January by executive order.
Didn't Obama conclude he would unite the country.
Remember these great words NO lobbyist in my adminastration, No earmarks in the bill I sign, You will be able to read the bill first and this will be the most transparent adminastration BULL !!:)):))

[PuckHappy]

Not a chance Vic, not a chance. Unemployment is going out the roof and he is doing nothing about that. Economy is in a shambles and all he has is some nutso saying about he has a mob. His popularity is low and going lower.

Ah, that's not true. He gives DAILY infomercials to let us know that he has signed a "Bill" to cure all that ales us.

[Penhall99]

I don't understand. Why are people (including Obama) going out of their way to say this was not a terrorist act?

Is it because of pc nonsense? Or are people just wanting to believe that the terror threat is not real?

I don't understand it....

[BillBrown]

I don't understand. Why are people (including Obama) going out of their way to say this was not a terrorist act?

Is it because of pc nonsense? Or are people just wanting to believe that the terror threat is not real?

I don't understand it....

It's pc nonsense.

[Always Independent]

and if he does make sure he gives a shout out to ACORN before attempting to appear solemn at the loss of military lives or make a decision on troops in harms way

Odrama did nothing but jump to conclusions during his campaign that he has yet end. Not to mention his short tenure as a Senator where he had zero solutions and as we all know now, no inkling on what to do or even have a simple plan to start off with, one that he could share with and explain to the people he is supposed to be leading. Obama is fail.

So don't you worry your little neocon head, Obummer will make sure to have full press corp coverage, of course against the wishes and protests of over 94% of the families involved. Nothing is sacred to this loser who has cheapened the Presidency down to a daily show skit. :(( Don't be surprised to come find out that this pathetic excuse for a man plays table drums on the coffins of our fallen. We need real leadership and we NEED IT NOW, not the blame squad and the insults/attacks of hope and change.

[Cold_War_Warrior]

I don't understand. Why are people (including Obama) going out of their way to say this was not a terrorist act?

Is it because of pc nonsense? Or are people just wanting to believe that the terror threat is not real?

I don't understand it....

For Democrats: Terrorism is just a nuisance and should be a matter for law enforcement.

But, let’s not jump to conclusions....

Robert Gibbs: “It’s a matter for the FBI and your questions should be directed towards them”

[gb2004]

I don't understand. Why are people (including Obama) going out of their way to say this was not a terrorist act?

Is it because of pc nonsense? Or are people just wanting to believe that the terror threat is not real?




Yes, and yes.

[george kaplan]

I don't understand. Why are people....
{rest of post 'cleaned up'}

I would strongly suggest you delete your offensive post.





:flag:

[croupier101]

obama is trying to squelch my first amendment right to make up reasons and guesses to motives that will help my political argument with as few of the real facts as possible.

[True North]

well, since the terrorist served on Oblamer's transition team, of course the ****er would say that. (read on another thread)

I can't take another 3 yrs of this dirtbag.
It'll be 7 more.:cry::cry::cry::cry:

[croupier101]

it has to be a terrorist attack, because the guy was muslim. if he wasn't, then it would just be another crazy person going on a shooting rampage.

[DelawareGuy]

Odrama did nothing but jump to conclusions during his campaign that he has yet end. Not to mention his short tenure as a Senator where he had zero solutions and as we all know now, no inkling on what to do or even have a simple plan to start off with, one that he could share with and explain to the people he is supposed to be leading. Obama is fail.

So don't you worry your little neocon head, Obummer will make sure to have full press corp coverage, of course against the wishes and protests of over 94% of the families involved. Nothing is sacred to this loser who has cheapened the Presidency down to a daily show skit. :(( Don't be surprised to come find out that this pathetic excuse for a man plays table drums on the coffins of our fallen. We need real leadership and we NEED IT NOW, not the blame squad and the insults/attacks of hope and change.


think you didnt get my sarcasm, I am FAR from pro Obama

[george kaplan]

it has to be a terrorist attack, because the guy was muslim. if he wasn't, then it would just be another crazy person going on a shooting rampage.

It must be nice to be able to post such silly things when anybody arguing against your position gets banned.

[croupier101]

It must be nice to be able to post such silly things when anybody arguing against your position gets banned.

you are such a victim, everyone is out to get you.

[DelawareGuy]

obama is trying to squelch my first amendment right to make up reasons and guesses to motives that will help my political argument with as few of the real facts as possible.


yeah just like rushing to judgement that a certain song of worship couldnt possibly have occured

there is a lot of facts and theories and information going about now, I am not advocating stalling , things seem to be leading in one direction but cant be totally sure now, in a few days we will know a lot more

i think both those who "know its a terrorist incident" and the media's and the administrations seeming rush to proclaim it in no way is a terrorist incident are both a bit misguided

[Vic Daring]

*sigh*

Okay.

Look! He's a MUSLIM!

That is significant!
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now what?
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I don't feel any safer.

[gb2004]

*sigh*

Okay.

Look! He's a MISLIM!

That is significant!
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now what?
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I don't feel any safer.

Don't jump to conclusions.

[The Bos'un]

The ball may have been dropped by compassionate progressivism to begin with. There were apparently many signs that Hasan was not playing with a full deck.

The system may have failed Hasan because he was obviously mentally deranged and influenced by some radical teachings. But others were afraid to speak up....

[george kaplan]

you are such a victim, everyone is out to get you.

Not me, just those who take the position opposite of the one you expressed.

[The Bos'un]

We need to acknowledge the elephant in the middle of the room and find out how and why some muslims become radicalized and others remain moderate....

[mtbeaches]

Don't jump to conclusions.
But its ok for him to jump to conclusions when he says the white cop in MA acted stupidly. But when the radical muslim shoots up an army base, we can't state the obvious.

[george kaplan]

The ball may have been dropped by compassionate progressivism to begin with. There were apparently many signs that Hasan was not playing with a full deck.

The system may have failed Hasan because he was obviously mentally deranged and influenced by some radical teachings. But others were afraid to speak up....

Now, we're healing the bastard.

We should have spilled his guts and let him die slowly.

[The Bos'un]

What would you expect. President Obama is the most left leaning liberal politician in the history of America and many left leaning liberals do not like police officers and root for the underdog (as long as the underdog is not Israeli or defending ones self appropriately).

This is a progressivism issue.

[Cold_War_Warrior]

:rolleyes:

[Gatekeeper]

But its ok for him to jump to conclusions when he says the white cop in MA acted stupidly. But when the radical muslim shoots up an army base, we can't state the obvious.

LOLOLOL :)):)) I know, he should talk about jumping to conclusions. Is he for real? or is this just a bad dream I haven't woke up from yet?

[george kaplan]

We need to acknowledge the elephant in the middle of the room and find out how and why some {CLEANED} become radicalized and others remain moderate....

I don't think we're allowed to mention he's a {CLEANED}. You may want to edit your post.

[The Bos'un]

George, we do have to go through the legal system with Hanan (as flawed as the legal system is).

[Greyghost]

It must be nice to be able to post such silly things when anybody arguing against your position gets banned.

It is all he knows how to do on these boards. He brings nothing to the conversation but attacks on conservatives and is always trying to bait people. just look at his post after yours as a prime example.

[mtbeaches]

We need to acknowledge the elephant in the middle of the room and find out how and why some muslims become radicalized and others remain moderate....imo, islam is a violent religion and always has been from its inception. it was born out of violence. the only time its a peaceful religion is when they are in the minority. but if you look at the countries where islam is in the majority, it is hardly a peaceful ideology.

sorry if the truth hurts, but you can't change history...unless you're from the radical left of course.

[The Bos'un]

I clarified it by quantifying (some) and not throwing the baby out with the bathwater. We still have to get back to the basics like why did Johnny Taliban Lindh and Adam Gadahn become radicalized and go against America. Daveed Gartenstein Ross does start to zero in on the psychological mindset. As you know, Daveed drifted toward radial islamists ideology and was able to see the light before he went all the way. ...

[mtbeaches]

LOLOLOL :)):)) I know, he should talk about jumping to conclusions. Is he for real? or is this just a bad dream I haven't woke up from yet?lol...so this is your bad dream I'm living in??? Thank God, I thought it was mine!

[george kaplan]

George, we do have to go through the legal system with Hanan (as flawed as the legal system is).

Yes, of course you're right.

[george kaplan]

It is all he knows how to do on these boards. He brings nothing to the conversation but attacks on conservatives and is always trying to bait people. just look at his post after yours as a prime example.

One trick pony. Yeah, he's not worth the energy and time it takes to reply to his posts.

Thanks for the reminder.

[The Bos'un]

I hate it when I am right. :))

I am really trying to remain as object as I possibly can, although it is difficult. ;)

[DelawareGuy]

It is all he knows how to do on these boards. He brings nothing to the conversation but attacks on conservatives and is always trying to bait people. just look at his post after yours as a prime example.

yes his blind allegience to Obama knows no bounds and now when there are no successes at which to point, sarcasm is the last bit of ammunition left

[DavidC]

There needs to be more religious dialogue and sane debates between religions until we find out what parts of the sacred books are hate speech....then those who agree with those articles of hate speech, should be able to martyr themselves in a safe and sane way, without endangering others. Perhaps Disneyland and other theme parks could consider One way suicide rides for some and crucifixtion or self-emolation rides for others. Now if some insist they have to take others with them when the go, we'll ya know you will just have to settle for simulators, i.e., vidoe game style. For instance there could have been Kamakaze simulators for Militant Shinto glory or Concentration Camp Sims for the Nazis. In fact they should take all that Armageddon stuff and make an MMORPG and lets all sides battle it out in pixel jihads and revolutions to their hearts content.

I say take all this hate to virtual battlefields.

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3078/choosewow2bz1rt3.jpg


:idea::wall:

[cj234]

That's SEVEN more years.

Sorry, but!!:)):)):)):))

[The Bos'un]

:)) you obviously do not know me well. :))

[The Bos'un]

it has to be a terrorist attack, because the guy was muslim. if he wasn't, then it would just be another crazy person going on a shooting rampage.
Give me a break.... You have baited the hook and waiting for a bite to set it.... :))

[Cutiepie]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33712858/ns/us_news-tragedy_at_fort_hood/

Unlike he did in the not so distant past:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5895861/Barack-Obama-embroiled-in-row-after-accusing-police-of-acting-stupidly.html




Well, I will jump to conclusions b/c GObama! the idiot simply refuses to see what is going on. The man opposed our military. A red flag should have been up especially when he re enlisted. If you oppose something you don't join or enlist. At least I don't. I oppose the whole healthcare thing and I won't join.

[cj234]

it has to be a terrorist attack, because the guy was muslim. if he wasn't, then it would just be another crazy person going on a shooting rampage.

Yeah, kind of like the guys that flew planes into the towers????? Just a rampage???:rolleyes:

[Guvnah]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33712858/ns/us_news-tragedy_at_fort_hood/

Unlike he did in the not so distant past:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5895861/Barack-Obama-embroiled-in-row-after-accusing-police-of-acting-stupidly.html

Maybe it shows he's learning on the job!

[Cutiepie]

Maybe it shows he's learning on the job!




We don't need GObama! the idiot learning ON the job. It shows he is totally clueless and way in over his head.

[missmel]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33712858/ns/us_news-tragedy_at_fort_hood/

Unlike he did in the not so distant past:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5895861/Barack-Obama-embroiled-in-row-after-accusing-police-of-acting-stupidly.html

must have gotten the square on the top left this time.

[gb2004]

We don't need GObama! the idiot learning ON the job. It shows he is totally clueless and way in over his head.

Clearly.

[chico53]

"served on his transition team" is so misleading a way of stating this that I'm comfortable just calling it a lie.

In this case, consider the source -- Mr. Corsi. Telling a lie is the least of his faults these days.

[Kegler300]

Liberals have tried to tie Timothy McVeigh to the republican party...which party will they try to tie this murderer to?

[Jim50]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33712858/ns/us_news-tragedy_at_fort_hood/

Unlike he did in the not so distant past:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5895861/Barack-Obama-embroiled-in-row-after-accusing-police-of-acting-stupidly.html

Don't worry. He's going to invite all involved in this incident to the White House for a beer.

[gb2004]

Don't worry. He's going to invite all involved in this incident to the White House for a beer.

No doubt.

[reflechissez]

Odrama did nothing but jump to conclusions during his campaign that he has yet end. Not to mention his short tenure as a Senator where he had zero solutions and as we all know now, no inkling on what to do or even have a simple plan to start off with, one that he could share with and explain to the people he is supposed to be leading. Obama is fail.

So don't you worry your little neocon head, Obummer will make sure to have full press corp coverage, of course against the wishes and protests of over 94% of the families involved. Nothing is sacred to this loser who has cheapened the Presidency down to a daily show skit. :(( Don't be surprised to come find out that this pathetic excuse for a man plays table drums on the coffins of our fallen. We need real leadership and we NEED IT NOW, not the blame squad and the insults/attacks of hope and change.

looked for some facts. didn't find any.

[Inks]

Liberals have tried to tie Timothy McVeigh to the republican party...which party will they try to tie this murderer to?I thought they tried to tie him to the religious right and the so called "racist republicans"?

[tobybear]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33712858/ns/us_news-tragedy_at_fort_hood/

Unlike he did in the not so distant past:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5895861/Barack-Obama-embroiled-in-row-after-accusing-police-of-acting-stupidly.html


He probably remembered the Abu Gharab incident where Democrats declared that individual members of the military would never do anything wrong on their own and that they only act upon direct orders from the President!