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tha malcontent™
November 6th, 2009, 7:02 am
Hasan was ‘mortified’ about deployment
Relatives: Ft. Hood suspect upset over being harassed about being Muslim
NYT: Suspect ‘mortified’ about deployment - The New York Times- msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33704314/ns/us_news-the_new_york_times)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33704314/ns/us_news-the_new_york_times
By JAMES DAO
updated 8:43 p.m. MT, Thurs., Nov . 5, 2009
WASHINGTON - Born and reared in Virginia, the son of immigrant parents from a small Palestinian town near Jerusalem, he joined the Army right out of high school, against his parents’ wishes. The Army, in turn, put him through college and then medical school, where he trained to be a psychiatrist.
But Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the 39-year-old man accused of Thursday’s mass shooting at Fort Hood, Tex., started having second thoughts about his military career a few years ago after other soldiers harassed him for being a Muslim, he told relatives in Virginia.
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I could set my Watch to this ****.
For those of you who say this has nothing to do with Islam, well, either way it does.
The New York Times is now Excusing this Animal, Above the Fold, for what he did Yesterday...
And YES, this is the NYT Excusing it.
One can only Conclude that if our Mean White Servicemen weren't Harrassing him about his Religion, that he wouldn't have had to Shoot them all up.
That and if he didn't have to be Deployed to Boooooshes Failed Wars Against his Will.
There is NO Excuse for this, NYT, and your Running with Family Hearsay within the First 24 Hours of this Massacre is Shameless to say the Least.
Here's an Example of the NYT Qualifying Hearsay that goes the Direction they don't want to:
In one posting on the Web site Scribd, a man named Nidal Hasan compared the heroism of a soldier who throws himself on a grenade to protect fellow soldiers to suicide bombers who sacrifice themselves to protect Muslims.
“If one suicide bomber can kill 100 enemy soldiers because they were caught off guard that would be considered a strategic victory,” the man wrote. It could not be confirmed, however, that the writer was Major Hasan.
^If it is him, can we say that he was the Enemy in this War, and not some Soldier who Snapped?...
The NYT Certainly didn't have a Problem Inking Family Hearsay as Fact when Assisted in Excusing this Puke, did they.
It could not be confirmed, however
People have Short Memories... I Remember the Beltway Sniper... I Remember the "Free Press" almost Immediately Assuming it had to be some Angry Cracker, probably a Hunter, who was doing it.
Ends up being a Couple, and a MEAN Couple of Islam Converts, and Suddenly the Stereotyping of Groups Stops with the "Free Press".
Time will Tell... But the Selective Assumptions and Excuse Making by the New York Times within the First 24 Hours is Disturbing to say the Least...
Predictable, but Disturbing all the same.
How many of these Events that are Perpetrated by Islamists on American Soil are we going to Excuse before we Realize that this War was Begun on our Soil in February of 1993 and it Continues to this Day... Not just over there...
Right here.
:)
peace...
Dacarlo
November 6th, 2009, 8:04 am
I find it hard to believe that a Major was harassed for being a Muslim.
tha malcontent™
November 6th, 2009, 8:09 am
I find it hard to believe that a Major was harassed for being a Muslim.
I've been waiting Elsewhere for someone to Point that out...
Thank you for being the First.
:)
peace...
rhet 2
November 6th, 2009, 8:54 am
Ain't that always the defense claim?
I WAS JUSTIFIED -- shouldn't have been so mean to poor little innocent sweet perfect little me. You gotta die 'cause you're so damned mean.
Makes a person want to vomit, such vile, despicable dishonesty.
Mean happens.
Doesn't justify a slaughter rampage.
The guy freaked out and went nuts.
The guy refused to live by the single most basic rule of all civilized communal existence: Don't Murder Other People.
When psychologically incompetent fools defy that most basic law, hell walks the earth around them, destroying everybody in their path.
Regardless of their religious beliefs. Regardless of their social rank. Regardless of their wealth. Regardless of any other of the billions of issues that divide us from one another.
There IS NO EXCUSE FOR MURDER. period
The man is an insane freak not fit for human society. period
Because he defied the single rule that makes human coexistence possible at all.
And he needs to die -- because locking the insane humanity hating son of a bitch up like a wild animal is NOT merciful nor compassionate.
Put the jerk out of his misery ------- permanently.
It is the one law for which there is no exception, no tolerance, no excuse.
Because it is the one law that makes civilized coexistence possible at all.
MrShotShot
November 6th, 2009, 9:43 am
Perhaps he was harassed AFTER he starting spouting a bunch of crazy Jihadist ********?
Rick Rhetoric
November 6th, 2009, 10:28 am
Hasan was ‘mortified’ about deployment.
Major Hasan was no doubt 'mortified" about being deployed to help in the fight against his religious brethren. If so, it should be very understandable. It is egregiously improper and prurient to expect a devout soldier of strong religious beliefs to commit any type of action which might be detrimental or contrary to his religious convictions. Would that it be that all of us should be so personally devoted to our Creators.
In view of that, the United States military should study, consider and arrange to make some serious adjustments in this matter.
For instance:
Soldiers of the Baptist faith should not be required to fight Baptists.
Soldiers of the Catholic faith should not be required to fight Catholics.
Muslim Soldiers should not be required to fight Muslims.
And the same for all other established religions.
Furthermore, homosexuals should not be required to fight homosexuals, and so forth.
Neither should different races, cultures and ethnicity be pitted against each other.
Additionally, those soldiers of different political parties should not be expected to fight one another. For example, Democrats, Republicans and conservatives should not be pitted against one another.
In today's world of high technology and computerized assets, the sorting out, distinct grouping and cataloging soldiers of various racially diverse and multiculturalistic feelings, should not be a problem for the military.
Thank you
ArmyCowboy
November 6th, 2009, 10:48 am
I'm not sure the New York Times pice is trying to excuse that act. There is no excuse for it.
However, I do believe they are trying to dig up evidence to try to suggest why he did it, which is much different from excusing it.
MrShotShot
November 6th, 2009, 10:49 am
Major Hasan was no doubt 'mortified" about being deployed to help in the fight against his religious brethren. If so, it should be very understandable. It is egregiously improper and prurient to expect a devout soldier of strong religious beliefs to commit any type of action which might be detrimental or contrary to his religious convictions. Would that it be that all of us should be so personally devoted to our Creators.
In view of that, the United States military should study, consider and arrange to make some serious adjustments in this matter.
For instance:
Soldiers of the Baptist faith should not be required to fight Baptists.
Soldiers of the Catholic faith should not be required to fight Catholics.
Muslim Soldiers should not be required to fight Muslims.
And the same for all other established religions.
Furthermore, homosexuals should not be required to fight homosexuals, and so forth.
Neither should different races, cultures and ethnicity be pitted against each other.
Additionally, those soldiers of different political parties should not be expected to fight one another. For example, Democrats, Republicans and conservatives should not be pitted against one another.
In today's world of high technology and computerized assets, the sorting out, distinct grouping and cataloging soldiers of various racially diverse and multiculturalistic feelings, should not be a problem for the military.
Thank you
Interesting comments - it should also be pointed out that 2 of the 3 Axis powers during WWII were Christian nations. How many Catholics fought in Mussolini's army? As for the Germans, well Gott Mit Uns anyone?
trsjr70
November 6th, 2009, 10:52 am
DONATE BLOOD IF YOU'RE IN TEXAS
Excuse me if I'm repeating what's been said or overstating the obvious.
We've been getting the word out any way we can here in Austin to everyone who can make it to a blood donation center to get there ASAP. Red Cross and other blood centers across Texas are accepting donations.
Even if you're not in Texas, go donate blood anyway.
Middy
November 6th, 2009, 11:28 am
Perhaps he was harassed AFTER he starting spouting a bunch of crazy Jihadist ********?
Could be that after he expressed such great glee over the murder of a soldier outside a U.S Army recruitment office in Little Rock, he was chastised by other soldiers much too harshly........How dare they harass him?
MEGOP
November 6th, 2009, 11:29 am
Fort Hood shooter was member of Homeland Security Panel advising Obama (http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/11/fort-hood-shooter-was-member-of-homeland-security-panel-advising-obama.html)
Of course. Why not? He was a "moderate." Until he wasn't.
"Nidal Hasan: Ft. Hood Shooter Participated in Homeland Security Disaster Preparation," from Gawker (http://gawker.com/5398253/nidal-hasan-ft-hood-shooter-participated-in-homeland-security-disaster-preparation), November 6 (thanks to Mary Belle):
The gunman who killed 12 people today at Ft. Hood appears, based on current media reports, to be Army psychiatrist Nidal Hasan who was listed as a participant in a Homeland Security Policy Institute's presidential transition task force last year. The task force was not officially affiliated with the White House. It was a project of the Homeland Security Policy Institute, an independent thinktank housed at George Washington University, aimed at drafting policy recommendations for the incoming Obama administration.
According to the task force's May 2009 report [pdf], a "Nidal Hasan" from the Uniformed Services University School of Medicine was a task force event participant. Other participants included Senate and House staffers, Department of Homeland Security officials, Defense Department officials, and reporters for Politico, the Washington Post, and the London Times....
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Muhammad Atta said (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/sep/30/terrorism.september113): "Shout, 'Allahu Akbar,' because this strikes fear in the hearts of the non-believers."
"Fort Hood soldier describes horrific scene to family in Utah," by John Daley for KSL.com (http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=8572568), November 5 (thanks to AJ):
NORTHERN UTAH -- The news of the mass shooting at Fort Hood Thursday hit close to home for some Utahns. One man says his daughter heard the shooter exclaim "Allah Akbar" as he opened fire. We want to stress that no government or military officials are reporting that and there is no way for us to independently confirm that it is true....
The soldier's father says his daughter was at Fort Hood Thursday when the shooting happened, and she called him, frantic and upset, soon after.
"She said, 'Dad, I'm OK. Don't worry, I'm OK.' And initially I said, 'What are you talking about?' She said, 'Haven't you heard?' And I said, 'No.' And she said, 'We've been attacked by terrorists,'" the father explained.
He told KSL News soldiers were sitting in a staging area for medical and dental checks when the group was startled by gunfire.
"A person behind counter stood up, and he said, 'Allah Akbar!' And just opened up on everybody," the father told us....
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http://www.jihadwatch.org/images/NidalHasan.jpg
He handed out Korans? But didn't what he read in the Book of Peace (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1596981040?ie=UTF8&tag=robertspencer-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=1789&creativeASIN=1596981040) make him think that he shouldn't go through with the massacre?
Or maybe he read that Paradise was guaranteed to those who "kill and are killed" for Allah (9:111), and took that seriously.
Note also that he affected Islamic clothing -- as did another "moderate," Maher Hawash, before the latter embarked upon his jihad.
"Police raid shooting suspect's Killeen apartment," by Victor O'Brien for the Killeen Daily Herald (http://www.kdhnews.com/news/story.aspx?s=36899), November 6 (thanks to Ernest):
Bell County SWAT teams barricaded and evacuated a downtown Killeen apartment complex where Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan lived before authorities say he killed 13 people and injured 30 more during a massacre at Fort Hood Thursday.... In the morning, neighbors said Hasan handed Qurans and donated his furniture to anyone who would take it.
Neighbors described Hasan as a quiet man who began wearing "Arabic clothing" in recent weeks. Edward Windsor, a neighbor, never suspected Hasan was in the Army. Hasan's rank surprised Windsor who would never have imagined an officer with a rank of major would have lived in an apartment that rents for $350 and houses soldiers ranked as private first class....
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treadmill
November 6th, 2009, 11:32 am
There is no excuse for what he did...an insane, ideological reason, maybe...but no excuse.
The Bos'un
November 6th, 2009, 12:03 pm
the guy obviously had mental health issues.
While an intern at Walter Reed, Hasan had some "difficulties" that required counseling and extra supervision, said Dr. Thomas Grieger, who was the training director at the time.
Grieger said privacy laws prevented him from going into details but noted that the problems had to do with Hasan's interactions with patients.
The Bos'un
November 6th, 2009, 12:05 pm
There is no excuse for what he did...an insane, ideological reason, maybe...but no excuse.
tell it to the NY SLIMES... ;)
XTankLt
November 6th, 2009, 12:24 pm
....snip.....
In view of that, the United States military should study, consider and arrange to make some serious adjustments in this matter.
For instance:
Soldiers of the Baptist faith should not be required to fight Baptists.
Soldiers of the Catholic faith should not be required to fight Catholics.
Muslim Soldiers should not be required to fight Muslims.
bAnd the same for all other established religions.
Furthermore, homosexuals should not be required to fight homosexuals, and so forth.
Neither should different races, cultures and ethnicity be pitted against each other.
Additionally, those soldiers of different political parties should not be expected to fight one another. For example, Democrats, Republicans and conservatives should not be pitted against one another.
In today's world of high technology and computerized assets, the sorting out, distinct grouping and cataloging soldiers of various racially diverse and multiculturalistic feelings, should not be a problem for the military.
Thank you
:))
Screw that! Us Buddhist like to fight! ;)
http://www.marauder.org/nisei01.htm
RTchoke
November 6th, 2009, 12:31 pm
I find it hard to believe that a Major was harassed for being a Muslim.
I was also brought up by some pundit, I forget who now, that he was a 40 year old Major who people are claiming was harassed yet it makes no sense. He was not some silly assed 19 year old who just entered the service. He was a grown man, a major, a professional who earned a six figure income and he can't deal with "harassment" ? They were saying it made no sense. That was their argument so be aware that these aren't my words (except for the silly assed comment :razz: )
irgun48
November 6th, 2009, 1:00 pm
********, the New York times is a disgrace and nothing but a progressive lie machine. He did it because he was taught as a Muslim to hate and kill the unbeliever plain and simple.
Gengar
November 6th, 2009, 1:14 pm
Being called a "raghead" and a "camel jockey" most certainly didn't help... in fact, I believe the bigoted environment he was forced to work in only contributed to him snapping like this.
No doubt he turned to religion, so he could, in a twisted way, justify in his mind, what he was about to do.
Gengar
November 6th, 2009, 1:14 pm
********, the New York times is a disgrace and nothing but a progressive lie machine. He did it because he was taught as a Muslim to hate and kill the unbeliever plain and simple.
So why aren't the other 6 billion Muslims killing the rest of the planet?
SFC(R)L
November 6th, 2009, 1:15 pm
he did it because he's a liar and a coward.
Gengar
November 6th, 2009, 1:16 pm
I was also brought up by some pundit, I forget who now, that he was a 40 year old Major who people are claiming was harassed yet it makes no sense. He was not some silly assed 19 year old who just entered the service. He was a grown man, a major, a professional who earned a six figure income and he can't deal with "harassment" ? They were saying it made no sense. That was their argument so be aware that these aren't my words (except for the silly assed comment :razz: )
Actually, it makes perfect sense... being harassed and holding some resentment towards those who harassed him. What doesn't make sense is the shooting spree.
ExDem
November 6th, 2009, 1:17 pm
I find it hard to believe that a Major was harassed for being a Muslim.
His cousin told Sean last night that his accusations of harassement was a lie. He was trying everything possible to get out of going to fight for the country that had clothed, fed and provided him with a very good education and a six figure salary. He didn't want to fight his Muslim brothers for his country, but had no problem killing 12 of his fellow soldiers and countrymen. A disgusting coward.
ArmyMAJretired
November 6th, 2009, 1:21 pm
Being called a "raghead" and a "camel jockey" most certainly didn't help... in fact, I believe the bigoted environment he was forced to work in only contributed to him snapping like this.
No doubt he turned to religion, so he could, in a twisted way, justify in his mind, what he was about to do.
You probably don't want to know the names that troops throw at each other on a daily basis. It is a hard profession for hard people, thin skinned need not apply.
Damned, as a Phychiatrist you would have thought he mastered "sticks and stones can break my bones but names will never hurt me" in his first year of residency!
ArmyMAJretired
November 6th, 2009, 1:22 pm
I was also brought up by some pundit, I forget who now, that he was a 40 year old Major who people are claiming was harassed yet it makes no sense. He was not some silly assed 19 year old who just entered the service. He was a grown man, a major, a professional who earned a six figure income and he can't deal with "harassment" ? They were saying it made no sense. That was their argument so be aware that these aren't my words (except for the silly assed comment :razz: )
Unmarried too, looking for a wife at the Mosque. Sounds like a loser from way back. Jordanian claiming to be Palistinian, POSER.
RTchoke
November 6th, 2009, 1:24 pm
Actually, it makes perfect sense... being harassed and holding some resentment towards those who harassed him. What doesn't make sense is the shooting spree.
You didn't get the point. He was not some candy assed new recruit. He was in a position for this to be dealt with. He was a MAJOR, he had the ability to shut that **** down if it happened at all. He didn't. that is a flat out lazy assed whiney excuse.
Middy
November 6th, 2009, 2:19 pm
Actually, it makes perfect sense... being harassed and holding some resentment towards those who harassed him. What doesn't make sense is the shooting spree.
HE felt resentment about being harassed? He was always saying this country was evil for killing Muslims. He celebrated the murder of the soldier who was killed at the Little Rock US Army recruiting center.
He was very encouraged by the election of Obama, believing that he would stop the killing of Muslims. He was very disappointed and frustrated after he saw that was not happening. Perhaps the blame for his deranged mind should go to President Obama.
One of the people who worked with him heard him say that Muslims should become suicide bombers and go to NYC Times Square and detonate themselves and everything around them.
..................This crazy phsychiatrist was booted out of Walter Reed Hospital with a very poor evaluation, and he was transferred to Ft. Hood......He should have been booted out of there as well, and put on a watch list after so many people heard him make anti-American remarks.
.....and the poor, sensitive Major was harassed!......................
The Bos'un
November 6th, 2009, 2:37 pm
he did it because he's a liar and a coward.
The news media and "experts" are now saying Compassion Fatigue. There was a breakdown of some time, perhaps all the way around.... Remember, Hasan had some "difficulties" that required counseling and extra supervision while assigned to Walter Reed...
Bluenose177
November 6th, 2009, 3:20 pm
is there anybody else, on this board or in America, fed up and tired by this left wing fed, ******** excuses that somehow it was people against his religion and his objection to a war that was going on while the military paid for his education that somehow was to blame.
As usual with the liberals it's always somebody else's ****ing fault
mikepenn
November 6th, 2009, 4:35 pm
is there anybody else, on this board or in America, fed up and tired by this left wing fed, ******** excuses that somehow it was people against his religion and his objection to a war that was going on while the military paid for his education that somehow was to blame.
As usual with the liberals it's always somebody else's ****ing fault
Do you generalize much? I am left of center and do not think this is anyone's fault but his. I dont buy the harrassment claim.
He could have gone to his EO rep and filed a complaint for the harrasment. If it went nowhere, he could have gone to a chaplain or the IG. On my last deployment, we had at least 4 or 5 EO briefings... painfully boring to me. The army seems to go out of its way to enforce that. They hang EO posters everywhere, even on some of the FOBs. You cant turn on AFN without seeing EO spots.
notluzn
November 6th, 2009, 5:09 pm
So why aren't the other 6 billion Muslims killing the rest of the planet?6 billion muslims? NO! Opportunity is different than wanting.
Being muslim in other counties is like being a gang member. Blood in blood out. I would say 45% would love to leave that religion.
notluzn
November 6th, 2009, 5:10 pm
I wonder where he got his Ideas of justification? Hmmmmmmmmm
rhet 2
November 6th, 2009, 6:08 pm
You probably don't want to know the names that troops throw at each other on a daily basis. It is a hard profession for hard people, thin skinned need not apply.
Damned, as a Phychiatrist you would have thought he mastered "sticks and stones can break my bones but names will never hurt me" in his first year of residency!
Jerks like this Nothing Worth a Damn never master anything.
Because "mastery" begins with mastering yourself -- and that's something jerks like this one never do. So, they live in a fantasy world that just doesn't exist.
He was and always will be a walking patsy for every cult leader on earth, begging to be mastered by anyone except himself. UBL, Nasrallah, Khameini -- apes of that ilk eat suckers like this one alive every single solitary day.
Dacarlo
November 6th, 2009, 6:12 pm
The harassment charges are bogus.
Abdul-Rashid Abdullah, deputy director of the American Muslim Armed Forces and Veterans Affairs Council, told FoxNews.com that the nonprofit group has not received a single report recently of a U.S. soldier being harassed "simply because he was Muslim."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572588,00.html
MR. MISTER
November 6th, 2009, 7:50 pm
There is NO Excuse for this, NYT, and your Running with Family Hearsay within the First 24 Hours of this Massacre is Shameless to say the Least.In an interview with The Washington Post, Hasan's aunt, Noel Hasan of Falls Church, Va., said he had been harassed about being a Muslim in the years after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks and he wanted out of the Army. "Some people can take it and some people cannot," she said. "He had listened to all of that and he wanted out of the military......
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There have been reports that he was harassed for his Muslim religion, but the official says there is no indication Hasan filed a complaint within the military about that.
Here's an Example of the NYT Qualifying Hearsay that goes the Direction they don't want to:
In one posting on the Web site Scribd, a man named Nidal Hasan compared the heroism of a soldier who throws himself on a grenade to protect fellow soldiers to suicide bombers who sacrifice themselves to protect Muslims.
“If one suicide bomber can kill 100 enemy soldiers because they were caught off guard that would be considered a strategic victory,” the man wrote. It could not be confirmed, however, that the writer was Major Hasan.
^If it is him, can we say that he was the Enemy in this War, and not some Soldier who Snapped?...
At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.
They had not determined for certain whether Hasan is the author of the posting
I look forward to your outraged rant against Fox News
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572509,00.html
The Bos'un
November 6th, 2009, 9:13 pm
Hasan was promoted to Major in May 2009.
Orders authorizing May promotions for the following active-component commissioned officers and warrant officers have been issued by Human Resources Command.
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/04/army_officer_list_042009w/
Perhaps he overstated the "harassment."
The Bos'un
November 6th, 2009, 9:15 pm
When someone was posting the threatening post, at least six months ago, Major Hasan was being promoted to his current rank of Major. The BS meter is pegged by excuse makers...
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg160/geo40xyz/BS-Meter.gif
The Bos'un
November 6th, 2009, 9:18 pm
Was CID asleep at the investigative switch? Did a real serious investigation get switched off or what?
rhet 2
November 7th, 2009, 10:20 am
In an interview with The Washington Post, Hasan's aunt, Noel Hasan of Falls Church, Va., said he had been harassed about being a Muslim in the years after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks and he wanted out of the Army. "Some people can take it and some people cannot," she said. "He had listened to all of that and he wanted out of the military......
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There have been reports that he was harassed for his Muslim religion, but the official says there is no indication Hasan filed a complaint within the military about that.
At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.
They had not determined for certain whether Hasan is the author of the posting
I look forward to your outraged rant against Fox News
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572509,00.html
The US military has a long-standing acceptance of the Conscientious Objector -- a soldier who cannot in good conscience obey the commands of his superior officers.
He could have asked for discharge on the basis of conscience -- and DID NOT -- and he could have -- and SHOULD HAVE -- reported that harassment, filing charges against the individuals giving him hell for his religious beliefs -- and those harassers would most surely have faced investigation and punishment --
because the military DOES NOT TOLERATE such ******** -- and has an entirely independent chain of command to deal with all such brutal behaviors --
why the hell did this Death Worshiping son of a bitch accept promotion and continue in the military and NOT report criminal persecution to the proper authorities so that the abusers could be stopped?
He's LYING HIS FAT ASS OFF -- that's why
He deliberately volunteered for military service, wore the uniform, and PLANNED this treachery, that's why.
He's just another dishonorable worshiper of death and destruction, dedicated to the service of false gods -- another liar, cheat, and murderer, as false and treacherous as the human wanna-be gods he serves -- that's why.
irgun48
November 7th, 2009, 10:28 am
So why aren't the other 6 billion Muslims killing the rest of the planet?
almost every war, civil war or terrorist attack is committed by Muslims so in a sense they are.
irgun48
November 7th, 2009, 10:30 am
I wonder where he got his Ideas of justification? Hmmmmmmmmm
it is called the Koran.
tenzerra
November 7th, 2009, 10:54 am
There is no excuse for this coward. It is given that he began givng away belongings before he set out on his act of terror. That means it was premeditated. If he wanted out of the military because he did not believe in it then he easily could have left. As indicated from some prior posts HE CHOOSE not to do that. MUSLIMS need to do more in their part to rid themselves of the nuts in their house. MUSLIMS need to be more accepting of other religions. This guy VOLUNTEERED to be in the military. He sure liked getting the degrees and the pay and he was well informed that when he joined that there is always the possibility that he could be deployed into combat.
There should be no excuses for him.
MR. MISTER
November 7th, 2009, 11:11 am
The US military has a long-standing acceptance of the Conscientious Objector -- a soldier who cannot in good conscience obey the commands of his superior officers.
He could have asked for discharge on the basis of conscience -- and DID NOT -- and he could have -- and SHOULD HAVE -- reported that harassment, filing charges against the individuals giving him hell for his religious beliefs -- and those harassers would most surely have faced investigation and punishment --
because the military DOES NOT TOLERATE such ******** -- and has an entirely independent chain of command to deal with all such brutal behaviors --
why the hell did this Death Worshiping son of a bitch accept promotion and continue in the military and NOT report criminal persecution to the proper authorities so that the abusers could be stopped?
He's LYING HIS FAT ASS OFF -- that's why
He deliberately volunteered for military service, wore the uniform, and PLANNED this treachery, that's why.
He's just another dishonorable worshiper of death and destruction, dedicated to the service of false gods -- another liar, cheat, and murderer, as false and treacherous as the human wanna-be gods he serves -- that's why.
I agree.
The point of my post was mearly to call out the OP for his faux outrage against the NY Times when [non-biased / fair & balanced ™] Fox News made the same "excuses" and the same qualifications for "hear say".
But I expected nothing less..........
tha malcontent™
November 8th, 2009, 4:03 pm
I agree.
The point of my post was mearly to call out the OP for his faux outrage against the NY Times when [non-biased / fair & balanced ™] Fox News made the same "excuses" and the same qualifications for "hear say".
But I expected nothing less..........
The HELL...
The NYT did this on their Front Page while the Bodies were still Warm and the Living Vicitms were Fighthing for their Lives and did so while Ignoring the Evidence that it was Islam Related.
As for your "FOXNews" Link...
Go ahead and tell me who Authored that again?...
Look Closely.
I have a Beef with them also.
And I don't Advocate for or Excuse FOXNews...
But that Link wasn't their Story.
Try again.
:)
peace...
tha malcontent™
November 8th, 2009, 4:05 pm
More from the Washington Post on the REAL Victim of these Shootings:
Alleged Fort Hood shooter's lonely life - Washington Post- msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33766545/ns/us_news-washington_post)
The lonely life of alleged Fort Hood shooter
‘He was mistreated. He didn't have nobody. He was all alone,’ says neighbor
By Philip Rucker
updated 2:39 a.m. MT, Sun., Nov . 8, 2009
KILLEEN, TEX. - About 9 a.m. Thursday, Maj. Nidal M. Hasan walked over to see a neighbor in his aging apartment building here on the edge of downtown. He had come to say goodbye.
The two occasionally would sit together in plastic chairs beneath a wind chime on the landing outside her second-floor apartment, she recalled. She was Christian and he was Muslim, but they shared coffee and talked about God. But this morning, Hasan said that he would be deploying to Afghanistan soon and that he did not want to go. He gave her a copy of the Koran.
"I'm going to do good work for God," he told her. ...
"Everyone else just sat down there and drunk their beer and looked at him and giggled at him," the woman said, starting to cry. "They just would laugh at him when he walked down with his Muslim clothes. . . . He was mistreated. He didn't have nobody. He was all alone. He went to his apartment there and was all alone."
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Nice Job, WashPost. :clap::clap::clap::clap:
:)
peace...
The Bos'un
November 8th, 2009, 5:49 pm
More from the Washington Post on the REAL Victim of these Shootings:
Alleged Fort Hood shooter's lonely life - Washington Post- msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33766545/ns/us_news-washington_post)
The lonely life of alleged Fort Hood shooter
‘He was mistreated. He didn't have nobody. He was all alone,’ says neighbor
By Philip Rucker
updated 2:39 a.m. MT, Sun., Nov . 8, 2009
KILLEEN, TEX. - About 9 a.m. Thursday, Maj. Nidal M. Hasan walked over to see a neighbor in his aging apartment building here on the edge of downtown. He had come to say goodbye.
The two occasionally would sit together in plastic chairs beneath a wind chime on the landing outside her second-floor apartment, she recalled. She was Christian and he was Muslim, but they shared coffee and talked about God. But this morning, Hasan said that he would be deploying to Afghanistan soon and that he did not want to go. He gave her a copy of the Koran.
"I'm going to do good work for God," he told her. ...
"Everyone else just sat down there and drunk their beer and looked at him and giggled at him," the woman said, starting to cry. "They just would laugh at him when he walked down with his Muslim clothes. . . . He was mistreated. He didn't have nobody. He was all alone. He went to his apartment there and was all alone."
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Nice Job, WashPost. :clap::clap::clap::clap:
:)
peace...
Yep all the infidels and insensitive bastards fault. http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn65/Steoger/crying-1.gif What we have is an insensitivity issue, pure and simple...
rhet 2
November 8th, 2009, 7:20 pm
Yep all the infidels and insensitive bastards fault. http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn65/Steoger/crying-1.gif What we have is an insensitivity issue, pure and simple...
Gee, musta been all the hateful Black insensitivity and refusal to share their world that caused all the KKK hate crimes, too.......
sarcasm off
The Times: one stupid dumbass huff 'n puff assinity after another for the entertainment of huff 'n puff brain dead Left-Wits who wouldn't know logic if the Logic Dog rose up and bit them on their half-baked butts..............
MEGA BARF
Why the hell is that Yellow Rag still publishing a damned thing?
And, while we're on the subject, where the hell was the neighbor's brains that she didn't pick up the phone and dial the cops? Talk about "brain dead idiots" with their noses stuck up their own ignorant *******s.............. What an irresponsible and stupid IDIOT she is.
The Bos'un
November 8th, 2009, 11:27 pm
The Yellow Rag and other lamestreamers will be received bail out stiphens from the Obama Stimulati Fund program. ;)
tha malcontent™
November 9th, 2009, 7:47 am
Alleged shooter tied to mosque of 9/11 hijackers
Hasan apparently attended mosque when a radical imam preached there
Alleged shooter tied to mosque of 9/11 hijackers - Tragedy at Fort Hood- msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33777070/ns/us_news-tragedy_at_fort_hood)
updated 4:42 p.m. MT, Sun., Nov . 8, 2009
WASHINGTON - The alleged Fort Hood shooter apparently attended the same Virginia mosque as two Sept. 11 hijackers in 2001, at a time when a radical imam preached there.
Whether the Fort Hood shooter associated with the hijackers is something the FBI will probably look into, according to a law enforcement official who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing.
The family of Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the Army psychiatrist who killed 13 and wounded 29 at the Texas military base, held his mother's funeral at the Dar al Hijrah Islamic Center in Falls Church, Va., on May 31, 2001, according to her obituary in the Roanoke Times newspaper.
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Allegedly... Apparently... But he was Harassed by Mean Old Soldiers, Damn it!
:)
peace...
tha malcontent™
November 9th, 2009, 7:48 am
I Hope Mister Mr. comes back...
:)
peace...
EnchantedFrog
November 9th, 2009, 8:01 am
I can just picture in my mind some of the group counseling sessions that Major Hasan provided for our troops upon their return from the theater of operations.
Soldier 1: "Doctor, I feel bad about having killed some insurgents in Iraq."
Hasan: "You certainly should. You are a pathetic person who participated in a war of aggression. Convert to Islam so you can martyr yourself properly."
Soldier 2: "I find that I despise those radical Islamists who murdered my fellow soldiers."
Hasan: "You are insulting my Muslim heritage. I am becoming upset."
Soldier 3: "You got a problem, Doc. I'm going to report you to the CO."
Hasan: "SILENCE. I KEEELLLL YOU."
treadmill
November 9th, 2009, 8:32 am
For liberals there is an excuse. He is a Muslim. I have one answer to those people. "Military justice. Firing squad". There is no excuse for this coward.
tha malcontent™
November 9th, 2009, 8:40 am
Fort Hood Shooter Tried to Contact al Qaeda Terrorists, Officials Say - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fort-hood-shooter-contact-al-qaeda-terrorists-officials/Story?id=9030873&page=1)
U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Army Major Nidal Hasan was attempting to make contact with people associated with al Qaeda, two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News.
:)
peace...
Mohawk5
November 9th, 2009, 9:28 am
Sure an Officer in the Military was being harassed about his religious preference?!
What a riot! A senior officer getting harassed?!
treadmill
November 9th, 2009, 12:05 pm
How many conservative Christians get harassed each and every day in the liberal establishments which infest this country, from academia to the entertainment industry. How many of THEM go out an commit genocide? Sure an Officer in the Military was being harassed about his religious preference?!
What a riot! A senior officer getting harassed?!
The Bos'un
November 9th, 2009, 12:10 pm
Hasan is the picture of victimology. http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w111/mic-tiff/crying.gif
tha malcontent™
November 9th, 2009, 1:55 pm
Imam tied to 9/11 hijackers praises Hasan
Alleged Fort Hood shooter is conscious and talking at Army hospital
updated 54 minutes ago
Imam tied to 9/11 hijackers praises Hasan - Tragedy at Fort Hood- msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33777070/ns/us_news-tragedy_at_fort_hood)
FORT HOOD, Texas - A radical American imam on Yemen's most wanted militant list who had contact with two 9/11 hijackers on Monday praised alleged Fort Hood shooter Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan as a hero on his personal Web site.
The posting on the Web site for Anwar al Awlaki, who was a spiritual leader at two mosques where three 9/11 hijackers worshipped, said American Muslims who condemned the attacks on the Texas military base last week are hypocrites who have committed treason against their religion.
:)
peace...