Carrie Prejean settles

[Buffalo]

Story from TMZ

http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/04/carrie-prejean-sex-tape-settlement-miss-california-usa-pagneat/

From the article, TMZ says they have seen the "sex" tape. Interesting. Thoughts?

[Hoobeedoo Bejesus]

Maybe they will show it at her church next time they have her on the stage to speak of her convictions and morals.

[Buffalo]

Thought this might get some traction. Prejean being the victim of religious discrimination and all.

[MrShotShot]

I find it a little hard to believe that TMZ suddenly found its ethical center and decided to not release the tape.

[Buffalo]

I find it a little hard to believe that TMZ suddenly found its ethical center and decided to not release the tape.
TMZ isn't ethical, it's smart when it comes to legal issues. They don't want to get sued. But, I have no doubt there is a tape, otherwise they wouldn't say they've personally seen it. That would set them up for a lawsuit too.

[pattyk]

conservatives can have sex tapes. they just don't get PG and have an abortion.

[Vaard]

does she have to return the breasts?

[birddog1]

does she have to return the breasts?

More importantly do the store bought boobs appear in the tape or was it an A cup escapade?

[Sinister Rouge]

I for one look forward to seeing this video.

[AutoRacer55]

My dreams have come true!

[Sinister Rouge]

Anyone who is stupid enough to videotape their most intimate acts deserve to have their stupidity exposed for the enjoyment of the rest of us.

[ThrowCop]

Anyone who is stupid enough to videotape their most intimate acts deserve to have their stupidity exposed for the enjoyment of the rest of us.I was in college...

I needed the money...

It was tastefully done...





Don't judge me!!!

[AutoRacer55]

I was in college...

I needed the money...

It was tastefully done...





Don't judge me!!!

You were with Carrie?

[Sinister Rouge]

I was in college...

I needed the money...

It was tastefully done...





Don't judge me!!!


Hopefully you signed a contract that entitled you to the royalties.

[LouC]

Well if she had ever considered a political career this means she has to be a Democrat.

This also means an ugly implant or a lobotomy will be forthcoming...

How sad. :(

[mtdim]

I'm a little ashamed to admit that I find this whole thing a bit funny.

[MrShotShot]

TMZ isn't ethical, it's smart when it comes to legal issues. They don't want to get sued. But, I have no doubt there is a tape, otherwise they wouldn't say they've personally seen it. That would set them up for a lawsuit too.

Still not buying it.

a) What they could make off of the tape pales in comparison to what a lawsuit would cost.
b) Carrie doesn't have the resources to fight TMZ in court.
c) TMZ gets sued all of the time. They know how to handle themselves.

[Sinister Rouge]

Still not buying it.

a) What they could make off of the tape pales in comparison to what a lawsuit would cost.
b) Carrie doesn't have the resources to fight TMZ in court.
c) TMZ gets sued all of the time. They know how to handle themselves.


a) Depends on how good her lawyers are.
b) Some firm would represent her pro-bono for the publicity.
c) They also know that they would lose their customers. Releasing a porno is to shady even for the lowlives that watch TMZ.


On a side note, I am tired of hearing about this woman. I don't like beauty pageants, especially Donald Trump-knock-offs of Miss America.

[Buffalo]

Still not buying it.

a) What they could make off of the tape pales in comparison to what a lawsuit would cost.
b) Carrie doesn't have the resources to fight TMZ in court.
c) TMZ gets sued all of the time. They know how to handle themselves.
a) you can't sell what you don't own. They may have a copy and seen it, doesn't mean they have the rights to distribute it
b) she had the resources to fight the pageant and Donald Trump
c) They actually don't. They are pretty careful about content to avoid litigation.

[Buffalo]

I'm a little ashamed to admit that I find this whole thing a bit funny.
sadly me too.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

I was in college...

I needed the money...

It was tastefully done...





Don't judge me!!!
That was YOU?

[mdk190]

I wonder what passage from the Bible gave her the divine inspiration to make a sex tape? Her fifteen minutes are up. I do love seeing the rather quite response from the cons around here, I guess that are embarrassed that they hitched their wagon to her now.

[Mojotiger]

I wonder what passage from the Bible gave her the divine inspiration to make a sex tape? Her fifteen minutes are up. I do love seeing the rather quite response from the cons around here, I guess that are embarrassed that they hitched their wagon to her now.

Yeah I see her brought by up by cons all the time around here...

[ThrowCop]

I did hear that it was a, "solo" video...

[Sinister Rouge]

I thought Republican women didn't believe in sex before marriage...

[Nevarwinter]

I'm sorry. I'm pretty conservative and just found this thread.

What's the big deal again? Someone made a sex tape? That'll show those Jesus freaks!

Too often, people equate conservative or conservative Christians as people ashamed of their own private parts. In a few cases, it's true. In most cases, it's merely modesty practiced. The big blow up occurs when people take the exception as the rule on purpose to make others look bad.

If we didn't reproduce, there wouldn't be many of us. Which is why the libs are going to abort themselves out of existence eventually. ...but I digress.

I like Carrie Prejean regardless of the tape. News Flash to closed minded nincompoops! People, regardless of moral labels, have and enjoy sex. Some simply aren't as open to expressing it publicly as others.

[Sinister Rouge]

I'm sorry. I'm pretty conservative and just found this thread.

What's the big deal again? Someone made a sex tape? That'll show those Jesus freaks!

Too often, people equate conservative or conservative Christians as people ashamed of their own private parts. In a few cases, it's true. In most cases, it's merely modesty practiced. The big blow up occurs when people take the exception as the rule on purpose to make others look bad.

If we didn't reproduce, there wouldn't be many of us. Which is why the libs are going to abort themselves out of existence eventually. ...but I digress.

I like Carrie Prejean regardless of the tape. News Flash to closed minded nincompoops! People, regardless of moral labels, have and enjoy sex. Some simply aren't as open to expressing it publicly as others.

Exactly why I'm looking forward to seeing this video.
Girl is hot.

[Nevarwinter]

Exactly why I'm looking forward to seeing this video.
Girl is hot.

Really? Because from many of the previous replies, it sure seemed like you were equating her to a deviant in preachers clothing.

I used to be part of the independent crowd who patted themselves on the back for being so smart because I could disprove religion, then I grew up. Along with growing up, I gained a rudimentary understanding of human nature.

A guy who's on television preaching the word of God, who goes home to do some heroin while sleeping around is entirely the person I have come to laugh at because of their own moral lies. A person staying home, enjoying sex whether solo or private isn't something that concerns me on a large enough basis to bait others in threads on political forums.

[Sinister Rouge]

Really? Because from many of the previous replies, it sure seemed like you were equating her to a deviant in preachers clothing.

I used to be part of the independent crowd who patted themselves on the back for being so smart because I could disprove religion, then I grew up. Along with growing up, I gained a rudimentary understanding of human nature.

A guy who's on television preaching the word of God, who goes home to do some heroin while sleeping around is entirely the person I have come to laugh at because of their own moral lies. A person staying home, enjoying sex whether solo or private isn't something that concerns me on a large enough basis to bait others in threads on political forums.


I don't think her sex tape makes her an immoral person, or a moral one. It makes her a stupid person. I would never ask to videotape an intimate moment with my girlfriend, and I know she'd never let me. When you do something like that, (especially with all the celebrity sex tapes floating around on the internet) you have to expect that it will get out.
I would have no problem with her posing in Playboy or signing up to be a porn star. But to make a sex tape yourself and then be surprised when your obviously immoral boyfriend (I guess probably ex-boyfriend) releases it is just pure stupidity.

And you have to admit, from a party that preaches abstinence, this is ironic.

[Greyclouds]

Really? Because from many of the previous replies, it sure seemed like you were equating her to a deviant in preachers clothing.

I used to be part of the independent crowd who patted themselves on the back for being so smart because I could disprove religion, then I grew up. Along with growing up, I gained a rudimentary understanding of human nature.

A guy who's on television preaching the word of God, who goes home to do some heroin while sleeping around is entirely the person I have come to laugh at because of their own moral lies. A person staying home, enjoying sex whether solo or private isn't something that concerns me on a large enough basis to bait others in threads on political forums.

See, the ironic portion of this entire escapade was the fact that Carrie made herself into a lightning rod for Christian morals.

See her quotes here: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/09/carrie-prejean-values-voter-summit-gay-marraige.html

...she added: “As I saw my goals and aspirations flash by me, I knew God had a plan for me… God chose me for that moment. He knew I was strong enough to get through all the junk that I have been through.”

...

“Even though I didn’t win the crown that night,” said Prejean, tearing up, “I know the Lord has so much of a bigger crown in heaven for me.”

I wouldn't mind it if she just spoke her mind, briefly commented on the fact that she was wrongly rejected due to her answer, and then it was ANOTHER group of people who turned her into the "martyr" for their cause. If she ended up having nude pictures of herself and a sex tape revealed, well, we're all human!

In this case, though, it appears that she was the person digging her own grave, not just the people who championed her oppression.

If you're going to raise yourself up to national scrutiny: tie up your loose ends first.

[Nevarwinter]

I don't think her sex tape makes her an immoral person, or a moral one. It makes her a stupid person. I would never ask to videotape an intimate moment with my girlfriend, and I know she'd never let me. When you do something like that, (especially with all the celebrity sex tapes floating around on the internet) you have to expect that it will get out.
I would have no problem with her posing in Playboy or signing up to be a porn star. But to make a sex tape yourself and then be surprised when your obviously immoral boyfriend (I guess probably ex-boyfriend) releases it is just pure stupidity.

And you have to admit, from a party that preaches abstinence, this is ironic.

So you don't agree that it should have been kept private? I sincerely don't see the big deal that you guys are making it out to be.

[Sinister Rouge]

So you don't agree that it should have been kept private? I sincerely don't see the big deal that you guys are making it out to be.


Obviously she made a bad choice in sexual partners. I don't think that makes her a bad person.
I think it's reprehensible that we live in a society that enjoys such filth, but we do. I don't hold her responsible for the actions of pornographers or gossip-mongerers who will make money off of this, but you shouldn't expect immoral people to do the right thing.

Making a sex tape isn't any sort of moral lapse. But it's a stupid thing to do.

[Nevarwinter]

See, the ironic portion of this entire escapade was the fact that Carrie made herself into a lightning rod for Christian morals.

See her quotes here: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/09/carrie-prejean-values-voter-summit-gay-marraige.html

and of course, the above means that she is not allowed to have sex, ever. Gotcha.


I wouldn't mind it if she just spoke her mind, briefly commented on the fact that she was wrongly rejected due to her answer, and then it was ANOTHER group of people who turned her into the "martyr" for their cause. If she ended up having nude pictures of herself and a sex tape revealed, well, we're all human!

In this case, though, it appears that she was the person digging her own grave, not just the people who championed her oppression.

If you're going to raise yourself up to national scrutiny: tie up your loose ends first.

I'm sorry, having fun with sex in private is none of your business. Her sleazy ex saw an opportunity to make money and did so. How can you tie up a loose end if you expect certain things to remain private because you full well know there are smarmy smug people who pride themselves on being better than everyone else that are going to judge you as fast as their petty little fingers can type. And to boot, they're going to do it to make you look like a deviant.

[Sinister Rouge]

and of course, the above means that she is not allowed to have sex, ever. Gotcha.




I'm sorry, having fun with sex in private is none of your business. Her sleazy ex saw an opportunity to make money and did so. How can you tie up a loose end if you expect certain things to remain private because you full well know there are smarmy smug people who pride themselves on being better than everyone else that are going to judge you as fast as their petty little fingers can type.

Is she married? Because I thought Republicans were against sex between unmarried people.


Unless her sleazy ex (I will agree with you on that) taped her without her knowledge, I have no sympathy for her. I've said it before, making a sex tape is stupid.
Having sex is OK in my book. I enjoy it. But I'm not stupid enough to videotape myself doing it and trust someone else with the evidence.

[Greyclouds]

and of course, the above means that she is not allowed to have sex, ever. Gotcha.

No. Fundamentalist Christian theology dictates that sex is the providence only of married couples. I'm surprised you did not know that.


I'm sorry, having fun with sex in private is none of your business. Her sleazy ex saw an opportunity to make money and did so. How can you tie up a loose end if you expect certain things to remain private because you full well know there are smarmy smug people who pride themselves on being better than everyone else that are going to judge you as fast as their petty little fingers can type. And to boot, they're going to do it to make you look like a deviant.

Is it her fault that the tape was released? No.

Is it her fault that the tape was made? Well, yeah, unless this was done without her knowledge in which case she has legal means of obtaining resolution against her Ex.

Is it her fault that people looked to her as a champion of Christian morals? Yep. She shouldn't have stoked that fire.

Do Christian morals include a prohibition of sex prior to marriage? As far as I know, every Christian denomination does so.


Is this a mountain out of a molehill? Yes. The fault lies on both sides of the aisle though.

[Greyclouds]

Is she married? Because I thought Republicans were against sex between unmarried people.


Unless her sleazy ex (I will agree with you on that) taped her without her knowledge, I have no sympathy for her. I've said it before, making a sex tape is stupid.
Having sex is OK in my book. I enjoy it. But I'm not stupid enough to videotape myself doing it and trust someone else with the evidence.

Well said.

[Buffalo]

So you don't agree that it should have been kept private? I sincerely don't see the big deal that you guys are making it out to be.
Not that big a deal. Funny and interesting. Fact is, somebody made her out as a big deal when she was a "victim". Now that she's not quite of the stature to carry the flag of Christian morals, she's not a big deal to most anyone.

As far as her Christian morals as this is concerned. If she did it herself and it's just her solo, IDK. If it involved another out of wedlock, it is a failure. Now Christians are all morally corrupt individuals and realize this. What I find ironic, and maybe hypocritical, is that her issues that made her a recognizable name involved what others did with others and why that should not be sanctioned by the State. But in her own life, which she had control, she failed to live up to those morals. I am not against gay marriage because I do not believe that the State, in this world, is sanctioned by God.

[Buffalo]

No. Fundamentalist Christian theology dictates that sex is the providence only of married couples. I'm surprised you did not know that.



Is it her fault that the tape was released? No.

Is it her fault that the tape was made? Well, yeah, unless this was done without her knowledge in which case she has legal means of obtaining resolution against her Ex.

Is it her fault that people looked to her as a champion of Christian morals? Yep. She shouldn't have stoked that fire.

Do Christian morals include a prohibition of sex prior to marriage? As far as I know, every Christian denomination does so.


Is this a mountain out of a molehill? Yes. The fault lies on both sides of the aisle though.ayup.

[Nevarwinter]

Is she married? Because I thought Republicans were against sex between unmarried people.


Unless her sleazy ex (I will agree with you on that) taped her without her knowledge, I have no sympathy for her. I've said it before, making a sex tape is stupid.
Having sex is OK in my book. I enjoy it. But I'm not stupid enough to videotape myself doing it and trust someone else with the evidence.

There you go stereotyping again.

Unfortunately, some people video tape themselves because they like it. Some people like the same sex. I ain't judging them just as I ain't judging her. I'd say try to apply some common sense instead of jumping to instant judgment based on your own stereotypes.

[Ballygrl]

Story from TMZ

http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/04/carrie-prejean-sex-tape-settlement-miss-california-usa-pagneat/

From the article, TMZ says they have seen the "sex" tape. Interesting. Thoughts?

This is 1 of these times where conservatives need to keep their mouths shut instead of being all preachy preachy, especially when there's something in their past that can come back to haunt them.

[Ballygrl]

Is she married? Because I thought Republicans were against sex between unmarried people.

Where'd you hear that?

[ressurectedUltraSaiyanUSA]

i hope it's a video of her and the fox news girls

[newyorkjetsfan]

So you don't agree that it should have been kept private? I sincerely don't see the big deal that you guys are making it out to be.

I agree. What's wrong with people making a sex tape for themselves?

How many of you made those types of tapes? Be honest. :)

[CaffeineHat]

Anyone who is stupid enough to videotape their most intimate acts deserve to have their stupidity exposed for the enjoyment of the rest of us.
:))
Sex tapes! *Pounds table emphatically* Personally I'm for 'em. But I'd never make one and release it onto the internets.

I need to call the cable guy and have a few of the internets connected to my house. Not all of them though, just a few.:razz:

[JediMindTrick]

The only way this could get better is if the sex tape turns out to have some lesbian action in it.

[mtdim]

The only way this could get better is if the sex tape turns out to have some lesbian action in it.

That would be one of the all time greatest ironies.

[Sinister Rouge]

Where'd you hear that?



Support abstinence and fatherhood

We call for replacing “family planning” programs for teens with funding for abstinence education. We urge states to enforce laws against statutory rape. We support the establishment of Second Chance Maternity Homes. Because many youngsters fall into poverty as a result of divorce, we also encourage states to support projects that strengthen marriage. We support initiatives that strengthen marriage rates and promote committed fatherhood. Source: Republican Platform adopted at GOP National Convention Aug 12, 2000
http://www.ontheissues.org/republican_party.htm


http://www.abstinenceassociation.org/docs/advocacy/Letter_to_Baucus_and_Grassley_073009.pdf

http://www.abstinenceassociation.org/docs/advocacy/CBAE_Letter_FY2010.pdf

http://www.heritage.org/research/abstinence/

http://www.lifeway.com/tlw/history.asp

Unless I'm mistaken, the GOP supports abstinence, as do most branches of Christianity. If Ms. Prejean isn't married, she is not clearly not abstaining.

So do you support premarital sex?

[Ballygrl]

http://www.abstinenceassociation.org/docs/advocacy/Letter_to_Baucus_and_Grassley_073009.pdf

http://www.abstinenceassociation.org/docs/advocacy/CBAE_Letter_FY2010.pdf

http://www.heritage.org/research/abstinence/

http://www.lifeway.com/tlw/history.asp

Unless I'm mistaken, the GOP supports abstinence, as do most branches of Christianity. If Ms. Prejean isn't married, she is not clearly not abstaining.

So do you support premarital sex?

I'm Conservative and Catholic and I think if people are going to engage in pre-marital sex they need to protect themselves.

[Sinister Rouge]

I'm Conservative and Catholic and I think if people are going to engage in pre-marital sex they need to protect themselves.



That's a wise and fair opinion.
An opinion not shared by either the Catholic Church or Republican party.

[FidelisAdMortem]

I want to see that video, asap.

[LouC]

The only way this could get better is if the sex tape turns out to have some lesbian action in it.

The rumor is it is a solo performance.

If she is doing herself wouldn't that technically be lesbian sex?

[Ballygrl]

That's a wise and fair opinion.
An opinion not shared by either the Catholic Church or Republican party.

So every Catholic and Republican preaches? and they're all virgins til marriage?

[Stuball]

I agree. What's wrong with people making a sex tape for themselves?

How many of you made those types of tapes? Be honest. :)
Do you have one?:))

[DLaw911]

I want to see that video, asap.It's only a matter of time.

[CaffeineHat]

The rumor is it is a solo performance.

If she is doing herself wouldn't that technically be lesbian sex?
*doing herself?* That's more crass than I'd have expected from you Lou. I propose we develop some clever euphamisms such as those my dad came up with when I was a teenager:
shuffling the cards
shoveling the driveway
working the machinery
re-upolstering
visting the infirmary
and my personal favorite
scrambling the eggs.

[Sinister Rouge]

So every Catholic and Republican preaches? and they're all virgins til marriage?


Did I say that?

No premarital sex is a cornerstone of Catholic doctrine. Ask any priest.
It also may be about as enforced as jaywalking, but the Church is still against it.

And the Republicans are the ones promoting this abstinence crap, not the democrats.