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skprtod914
November 2nd, 2009, 12:34 pm
Now that Scozzafava has pulled out of the race in New York 23, will the Republican moderates like New Gingrich now endorse Hoffman?

Now of course, there's some question as to where Cozzafava's votes will go, but there is one interesting point to note, even if the Democrat wins. That is, that we've been told the Republican party will only be successful if it moderates its position. Otherwise, we're told, they will be a "regional party". Now look at what's happening, and in New York no less. What does that tell us?

P.S. As for New Gingrich, I don't know what to make of him overall, but he is certainly taking the liberal road in this case.

PredFan
November 2nd, 2009, 12:39 pm
New York doesn't tell us squat. Even though they call themselves Republican, they're essentially Democrat.

Now, if they elect the conservative, that would be sending a message.

skprtod914
November 2nd, 2009, 12:41 pm
New York doesn't tell us squat. Even though they call themselves Republican, they're essentially Democrat.

Now, if they elect the conservative, that would be sending a message.

It tells us that a liberal Republican had to pull out of the race.

Stantz
November 2nd, 2009, 1:31 pm
New York doesn't tell us squat. Even though they call themselves Republican, they're essentially Democrat.

Now, if they elect the conservative, that would be sending a message.

Actually this particular district is as conservative as they get (have voted exclusively Republican for the past 100 years or so ! )
There are also vast swaths of NY that would not really conform to the 'caricture' definition of NY being this liberal wonderland.
As far as Hoffman winning over his Democrat rival, that would not be a shock at all, as i mentioned this district is highly conservative. What has been very interesting in this whole process has been the internal conflict between GOP higher-ups , more conservative members of the GOP, and the actual voters.
In this case the GOP establishment lost big-time, even if they do endorse Hoffman now, they will just look silly, and the fact is , he does not need their endorsement.

RedStatePaPa
November 2nd, 2009, 1:34 pm
You have to wonder if Scuzzy wasn't democrat plant from the beginning.

PredFan
November 2nd, 2009, 2:40 pm
It tells us that a liberal Republican had to pull out of the race.

You needed to be told that?

PredFan
November 2nd, 2009, 2:42 pm
Actually this particular district is as conservative as they get (have voted exclusively Republican for the past 100 years or so ! )
There are also vast swaths of NY that would not really conform to the 'caricture' definition of NY being this liberal wonderland.
As far as Hoffman winning over his Democrat rival, that would not be a shock at all, as i mentioned this district is highly conservative. What has been very interesting in this whole process has been the internal conflict between GOP higher-ups , more conservative members of the GOP, and the actual voters.
In this case the GOP establishment lost big-time, even if they do endorse Hoffman now, they will just look silly, and the fact is , he does not need their endorsement.

Was there an incumbant running? I got the impression that the Democrat was the incumbant.

Krandor
November 2nd, 2009, 2:44 pm
Was there an incumbant running? I got the impression that the Democrat was the incumbant.

No incumbant. This was a Special Election which is why it is being held in 09 instead of the normal congressional elections on 10. That is also why there was no primary and the GOP picked their candidate instead.

PredFan
November 2nd, 2009, 2:46 pm
No incumbant. This was a Special Election which is why it is being held in 09 instead of the normal congressional elections on 10. That is also why there was no primary and the GOP picked their candidate instead.

Wow! Just when I thought it wasn't going to get more interesting.

homiebrah
November 2nd, 2009, 2:48 pm
Now that Scozzafava has pulled out of the race in New York 23, will the Republican moderates like New Gingrich now endorse Hoffman?

Now of course, there's some question as to where Cozzafava's votes will go, but there is one interesting point to note, even if the Democrat wins. That is, that we've been told the Republican party will only be successful if it moderates its position. Otherwise, we're told, they will be a "regional party". Now look at what's happening, and in New York no less. What does that tell us?

P.S. As for New Gingrich, I don't know what to make of him overall, but he is certainly taking the liberal road in this case.

Endorsements won't do any good now. Crist should be seeing this and wondering if the same thing won't happen to him.

Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese
November 2nd, 2009, 4:43 pm
Now that Scozzafava has pulled out of the race in New York 23, will the Republican moderates like New Gingrich now endorse Hoffman?

Now of course, there's some question as to where Cozzafava's votes will go, but there is one interesting point to note, even if the Democrat wins. That is, that we've been told the Republican party will only be successful if it moderates its position. Otherwise, we're told, they will be a "regional party". Now look at what's happening, and in New York no less. What does that tell us?

P.S. As for New Gingrich, I don't know what to make of him overall, but he is certainly taking the liberal road in this case.

No, they'll stay out of it in public and quietly feed the Democrats any dirt they have on Hoffman.

VA-165 Boomer
November 2nd, 2009, 4:58 pm
If in NY why not in several states. Why not put the GO back in GOP. If the country is truly 40% conservative?