Exposed breasts on the nightly news

[altair1013]

This was shown on broadcast TV, so I guess it's okay here. I'm not sure how I feel about it. It seems harmless, but I might be a little uncomfortable seeing this report with my daughters in the room.

What do you think?

http://cfc.wjla.com/videoondemand.cfm?id=51695

[mdk190]

If this reporting saves one life then it is totally worth the silly squeamishness felt by some.

[NascarGirl2448]

If your daughters are teenagers, they should be able to handle it, and start doing the monthly self exams themselves. Health information isn't always comfortable for some people to see on the news, but things like this can save lives.

[Gabby]

Remeber the costum malfuntion that raised so much of an issue? It'll be interesting to see the reaction to this.

I'm not sure that the nightly news is the place to be giving medical advice and instruction to the public. My doctors and a few nurses have given me this sort of instruction many times. I find it hard to believe that most women have not had the instruction before.

As for if the demo bothers me.... not really. The woman is so flat chested that I don't think there is much that would be bothersome for a young child watching it.

[altair1013]

If your daughters are teenagers, they should be able to handle it, and start doing the monthly self exams themselves. Health information isn't always comfortable for some people to see on the news, but things like this can save lives.

Right you are. I am infinitely more offended by the hundreds of erection commercials that my family is subjected to during "family hour." Enough is enough!

[LouC]

If this reporting saves one life then it is totally worth the silly squeamishness felt by some.

Correct condom application to save lives from STD's.

Slope Slope Cliff

The segment could have been done with a t-shirt on.

[johnrocks]

They weren't very big, not the point I guess but it didn't offend me.

[altair1013]

They weren't very big, not the point I guess but it didn't offend me.

The lady's husband is the one with the guts. Supporting her in this decision would have been a real problem for me. Give the man credit.

[LouC]

They weren't very big, not the point I guess but it didn't offend me.

They didn't offend me, I am not squeamish, they were obviously chosen for their demure stature, but that doesn't mean the segment should have exposed them based on the opinion of some that it was OK.

[LouC]

The lady's husband is the one with the guts. Supporting her in this decision would have been a real problem for me. Give the man credit.

Maybe he is a perv?

[altair1013]

Maybe he is a perv?

Possibly, but I'm not going assume that of any American serviceman without at least some evidence.

[mdk190]

Correct condom application to save lives from STD's.

Slope Slope Cliff

The segment could have been done with a t-shirt on.

Ah yes, teaching about condoms will increase sexual activity much like requiring seat belts encourages reckless driving. At least arm the population with knowledge instead just hoping and praying teenagers remain abstinent.

[altair1013]

Ah yes, teaching about condoms will increase sexual activity much like requiring seat belts encourages reckless driving. At least arm the population with knowledge instead just hoping and praying teenagers remain abstinent.

As long as no one else thinks that they have the right to teach MY kid this, then it's fine with me. It aint the schools job to decide.

[mdk190]

As long as no one else thinks that they have the right to teach MY kid this, then it's fine with me. It aint the schools job to decide.

If your going to teach Sex Education then it should cover all the bases and not just abstinence. It should be comprehensive and not one sided. All sides should be taught.

[altair1013]

If your going to teach Sex Education then it should cover all the bases and not just abstinence. It should be comprehensive and not one sided. All sides should be taught.

It should be up to me and my wife what is acceptable to teach my kid. The govt. and the schools should have no role in sex discussions.

[LouC]

Ah yes, teaching about condoms will increase sexual activity much like requiring seat belts encourages reckless driving.

At least arm the population with knowledge instead just hoping and praying teenagers remain abstinent.


Wow, you missed the point completely.

My post had nothing at all to do with an increase in sexual activity or withholding knowledge from teens.

Too funny... :))

I need to remember people are usually sitting down when I post..... Whoosh right over....

[CaptainPike]

If your going to teach Sex Education then it should cover all the bases and not just abstinence. It should be comprehensive and not one sided. All sides should be taught.

That's right. We've got to teach kids about all kinds of sex.

After all, if it's educational, it's A-OK.

Now, tell me what types of sexual practices they should NOT learn about.

[mdk190]

It should be up to me and my wife what is acceptable to teach my kid. The govt. and the schools should have no role in sex discussions.

Send you're children to private school or run for the school board.

[LouC]

Possibly, but I'm not going assume that of any American serviceman without at least some evidence.

I did not assume, I questioned that as a possibility for his acquiescence, and being an American serviceman does not in my estimation remove one from any suspicions or speculations, not by any means.

Case in point, Toad Kennedy was an American serviceman, at one time.

[mdk190]

That's right. We've got to teach kids about all kinds of sex.

After all, if it's educational, it's A-OK.

Now, tell me what types of sexual practices they should NOT learn about.

I am not advocating the teaching of sexual acts in these classes. They should teach abstinence as well comprehensive birth control devices for those students that will be sexually active. You act is if I am advocating "Fellatio 101" or "Sodomy For Dummies" in these classes.

[CaptainPike]

I am not advocating the teaching of sexual acts in these classes. They should teach abstinence as well comprehensive birth control devices for those students that will be sexually active. You act is if I am advocating "Fellatio 101" or "Sodomy For Dummies" in these classes.

I asked you what sexual practices should not be taught.

So which ones shouldn't be taught?

[mdk190]

I asked you what sexual practices should not be taught.

So which ones shouldn't be taught?

What do you mean by sexual practices?

I am not being snarky, I am just not sure what you mean.

[CaptainPike]

What do you mean by sexual practices?

I am not being snarky, I am just not sure what you mean.

What's not to understand?

Would it be easier if you could tell me what SHOULD be taught instead of what should not be taught?

If so, please don't answer unless you can do so without being completely vague.

[mdk190]

What's not to understand?

Would it be easier if you could tell me what SHOULD be taught instead of what should not be taught?

If so, please don't answer unless you can do so without being completely vague.

I asked you elaborate and I am somehow being vague?

What do you mean by sexual practices? Individual acts or more along the line of abstinence or safe sex?

[CaptainPike]

I asked you elaborate and I am somehow being vague?

What do you mean by sexual practices? Individual acts or more along the line of abstinence or safe sex?

Do you just not want to answer?

Tell me which individual sexual practices should or should not be taught, and if you're up to it, tell me who should teach them.

[traditional_woman]

I'm just glad the month of Oct is over with. I was getting kind of sick hearing/seeing/reading about awareness 24/7.

[LouC]

I'm just glad the month of Oct is over with. I was getting kind of sick hearing/seeing/reading about awareness 24/7.

Weary of keeping abreast of the awareness PSA's. Check

[wayoverthehill]

I'm just glad the month of Oct is over with. I was getting kind of sick hearing/seeing/reading about awareness 24/7.I agree!! I am SO over the color pink.

[altair1013]

Send you're children to private school or run for the school board.

Not really the subject of the post. And I wasn't asking for advice. Thanks anyway.

[ChaosControl]

Not really a big deal, but I think that is probably a better thing done for females in a high school health class.

[notluzn]

I've seen men with bigger boobs. Now with all the attention on Breast Cancer, is it really going to make a difference? I don't think so. Cancer is cancer and we should focus on all cancers.

I do think they would never show a doctor with his finger up the rear of some man looking for his prostate. Sad but true.

[Drawz]

This was shown on broadcast TV, so I guess it's okay here. I'm not sure how I feel about it. It seems harmless, but I might be a little uncomfortable seeing this report with my daughters in the room.

What do you think?

http://cfc.wjla.com/videoondemand.cfm?id=51695

Can't see the video.

According to forum rules you need to include a description/synopsis of video links. You may want to add that to your OP.

[ISYairio]

Wasn't necessary for them to go that far and they know that, but w/e.

[Claymore]

Good public service piece, well done.
Small boobs, not the least bit exciting.

[Greyclouds]

I can't believe that this is upsetting anyone.

[altair1013]

Good public service piece, well done.
Small boobs, not the least bit exciting.

So what do you do? A-cup is okay, C-cup is obscene? Huh?

[chip]

Nothing but a ratings week scheme. They dont give one whit about teaching self examination. Anyone who believes that is a fool.

[Claymore]

So what do you do? A-cup is okay, C-cup is obscene? Huh?

I prefer C or D cups, but A or B cups will do in a pinch.


I just really like nice boobies.

[altair1013]

I prefer C or D cups, but A or B cups will do in a pinch.


I just really like nice boobies.

Nice reply, but it didn't answer the question.

[JudasGoat]

nothing but a ratings week scheme. They dont give one whit about teaching self examination. Anyone who believes that is a fool.

+1

[altair1013]

+1


No doubt. Shock value is always good for ratings. Muslims are probably pretty stunned by this. I don't know how they can live in a country that permits this.

[notluzn]

Nothing but a ratings week scheme. They dont give one whit about teaching self examination. Anyone who believes that is a fool.

So True

[Lego-Man]

Good public service piece, well done.
Small boobs, not the least bit exciting.

What wasn't mentioned is that it's recommended that men do this as well as women and on the same schedule. I said this in a thread I started a bit back and other times on this board.

Men learn what you just saw and do this for yourself as well. Breast cancer is on the rise in men. Don't be embarrassed by this procedure.

[CaffeineHat]

I can't believe that this is upsetting anyone.
+1
That anyone would compare this to Janet Jackson's stunt is a little silly to me. I also don't agree with the assertion that "all doctors teach this and therefore every woman already knows how to do this."

I think the number of diagnoses would be significantly reduced it this were the case. If it saves a life it's worth it. And to the people who are "just glad they don't have to hear about it anymore now that the month of October is over..." some thoughts are better left unspoken. Speaking as someone whose life was touched by this issue, I spend every minute remembering someone...and I'm glad that October is a month where others do the same.

[Lego-Man]

That anyone would compare this to Janet Jackson's stunt is a little silly to me. I also don't agree with the assertion that "all doctors teach this and therefore every woman already knows how to do this."

I think the number of diagnoses would be significantly reduced it this were the case. If it saves a life it's worth it. And to the people who are "just glad they don't have to hear about it anymore now that the month of October is over..." some thoughts are better left unspoken. Speaking as someone whose life was touched by this issue, I spend every minute remembering someone...and I'm glad that October is a month where others do the same.

Which is why I posted what I did in my last post. Even though a woman may be taught by her ob-gyn or even her gp how to do this, it's very rare for a gp to show this to a man - no one ever thinks of it. I have lost guy friends (yes, plural) to breast cancer. One of them admitted towards the end he knew he should have done this and knew how but was too embarrassed to think of how others would react if they found out.

Guys - embarrassment lasts a couple minutes - death is quite a bit longer.

[altair1013]

+1
That anyone would compare this to Janet Jackson's stunt is a little silly to me. I also don't agree with the assertion that "all doctors teach this and therefore every woman already knows how to do this."

I think the number of diagnoses would be significantly reduced it this were the case. If it saves a life it's worth it. And to the people who are "just glad they don't have to hear about it anymore now that the month of October is over..." some thoughts are better left unspoken. Speaking as someone whose life was touched by this issue, I spend every minute remembering someone...and I'm glad that October is a month where others do the same.

What we have forgotten is that the Janet Jackson show was entirely sexual. Even before the "malfunction." Kids and church groups were watching the game and should not have been subject to a halftime show full of sexual tension. Very sad. If Janet did not want to flash us, she would not have decorated her tata for us.

[brouski]

Nothing but a ratings week scheme. They dont give one whit about teaching self examination. Anyone who believes that is a fool.

Was it a ratings period?

[Marleysdaddy]

It should be up to me and my wife what is acceptable to teach my kid.

It is up to you and your wife... that is why you can home school your child.

[Clintville]

Possibly, but I'm not going assume that of any American serviceman without at least some evidence.
Why? They are still just regular people Not to get on a tangent.

[Clintville]

Do you just not want to answer?

Tell me which individual sexual practices should or should not be taught, and if you're up to it, tell me who should teach them.
Oh Jesus tapdancing Christ!:rolleyes:

He wasn't saying any sexual acts should be taught. He was saying abstinence only education isn't the only thing that should be taught. As in they should include information on condoms, STDs, AIDS, all that.

[Clintville]

When you can see JFKs head explode or Holocaust victims on the History Channel, I don't see why a topless woman in a breast cancer education video on the news should freak anyone out. But this is of course America, and anything close to sexual (including non sexual nudity) is of course worse than horrible real violence.

[Clintville]

No doubt. Shock value is always good for ratings. Muslims are probably pretty stunned by this. I don't know how they can live in a country that permits this.
I am sure a lot of Christians feel the same way.

[altair1013]

I am sure a lot of Christians feel the same way.

I dunno. I've seen some pretty low cut stuff in church.

[NascarGirl2448]

What we have forgotten is that the Janet Jackson show was entirely sexual. Even before the "malfunction." Kids and church groups were watching the game and should not have been subject to a halftime show full of sexual tension. Very sad. If Janet did not want to flash us, she would not have decorated her tata for us.

HAHAHAHA Some "flash." For crying out loud you needed to have TiVO to even see what people were so up in arms about. I watched the show that night (had to, my Panthers were playing!) and didn't even see the alleged "flash." It was that quick.

[altair1013]

HAHAHAHA Some "flash." For crying out loud you needed to have TiVO to even see what people were so up in arms about. I watched the show that night (had to, my Panthers were playing!) and didn't even see the alleged "flash." It was that quick.

True. But the nature of the entire halftime show was sexual. Inapropriate for family time.

[Marleysdaddy]

True. But the nature of the entire halftime show was sexual. Inapropriate [sic] for family time.

1) Perhaps "family time" shouldn't involve the television...

2) If you feel something on the television is inappropriate, turn off the television.

[Greyclouds]

True. But the nature of the entire halftime show was sexual. Inapropriate for family time.

I don't understand why anything with even an indirect POSSIBILITY of sexual connotations is considered indecent to some...

... but if you find that dancing and slight innuendo are offensive to you, you have the following rights as an American citizen:

1. Turn off the Tv.

2. Teach your children anything that you want them to learn.

[Greyclouds]

1) Perhaps "family time" shouldn't involve the television...

2) If you feel something on the television is inappropriate, turn off the television.

Well put :clap:

[Stantz]

There is nothing sexual about a woman searching for a lump on her breast in hope of locating any breast cancer potential early.
And if it helps save one life, it's worth the childish reaction of some to this.
There was nothing gratuitous about it, it was as sterile and as medical as it gets, and if some are offended by the sight of a nipple, too bad.
It would be another thing if this was narrated by some 70's deep voice guy with Barry White playing in the background, and the exam done inside some candle lit room with a bottle of champagne chilling by a fireplace.

This was cold, hard life-saving advice.

[Trip]

This has no business being on evening news.

I'm sorry, I've got no problem with breasts and never did. I find seeing a woman's breasts no more startling than seeing a male's breasts.



However that's not how most of America views it. The broadcast of this on the evening news is not something Americans deal with well.

Beyond that, showing the actual bared breast didn't teach anything at all that couldnt have been taught in another manner.

This was purely sensationalism and done for ratings. I'm betting that it had lots of lead-up to this program to draw viewers into the broadcast as well. They even went to Elizabeth Edwards, "so what did you think of our showing breasts.. a breast exam on tv?" How hokey can you get. As if Mrs Edwards would somehow serve as suitable validation to a entirely unnecessary news segment.

[altair1013]

1) Perhaps "family time" shouldn't involve the television...

2) If you feel something on the television is inappropriate, turn off the television.

It was the superbowl for crying out loud. Every family in America was watching. Including yours. Could you not make this about me please?

[Cold_War_Warrior]

If it’s not offensive then why is there a warning screen on the video before it’s played?

[Vaard]

If it’s not offensive then why is there a warning screen on the video before it’s played?

so the panty bunchers can leave the room before hai vng their virgin eyes deflowered......

[Vaard]

It was the superbowl for crying out loud. Every family in America was watching. Including yours. Could you not make this about me please?

so they were confused by the 2 second blast of janets boob yet none of them asked parents what a "4 hour erection" meant that they heard every other commercial break?

[Buffalo]

so they were confused by the 2 second blast of janets boob yet none of them asked parents what a "4 hour erection" meant that they heard every other commercial break?
:)) I missed the whole thing. It was so small and brief.

[altair1013]

so the panty bunchers can leave the room before hai vng their virgin eyes deflowered......

Hey! Did you know that you can disagree with someones values without insulting them? Give it a try. It works.

Thanks and God bless.

[AutoRacer55]

:)) I missed the whole thing. It was so small and brief.

You're not the only one saying that.

[Vaard]

Hey! Did you know that you can disagree with someones values without insulting them? Give it a try. It works.

Thanks and God bless.

when modesty overrides physicial health, it is time to revalue the values........

[altair1013]

when modesty overrides physicial health, it is time to revalue the values........

As I said before. I wasn't personally offended. But I don't condemn those who were. As long as its someone elses daughter in the video and not mine, I'm okay with it.

[Buffalo]

You're not the only one saying that.
like silver dollar pancakes.

[Stantz]

:)) I missed the whole thing. It was so small and brief.
I dont know.. the entire thing just fell flat in my opinion

EDIT: I'm really an awful person, the poor girl, probably had to get over quite a lot of fear to do something like that out of concern for her fellow humans, get no money for it, and if anything had to know she would be snickered at in this fashion.. and here we are doing this... we suck. (Buffalo ... I'm putting you on the "we" list)

[chip]

Was it a ratings period?

October sweeps

[Buffalo]

I dont know.. the entire thing just fell flat in my opinion

EDIT: I'm really an awful person, the poor girl, probably had to get over quite a lot of fear to do something like that out of concern for her fellow humans, get no money for it, and if anything had to know she would be snickered at in this fashion.. and here we are doing this... we suck. (Buffalo ... I'm putting you on the "we" list)
I will gladly help you fill out that list, but my post was about Janet Jackson at the Super Bowl. But I am despicable sometimes.

[Greyclouds]

I find it funny that we all let words dictate our reactions to this piece. Case in point:

The OP's title vs. the actual warnings of the newscast.

Both suggest SCANDAL, but really the intent of the piece couldn't be further from sexual pornography. See, just like in art, intent matters. The difference between an artistic nude and a pornographic image are the intent of the piece.

The nude celebrates the human form; the pornographic image suggests sexual activity/behavior.


In this situation:

The information piece showed a woman's breast to demonstrate proper technique; a pornographic image would show a woman's breast with the intent of causing sexual arousal.


If you were to enact a blanket ban of any nudity in society simply because you could not see this distinction, well... beware of what you wish for!

Man arrested for being naked in his own kitchen: http://reason.com/blog/2009/10/21/man-arrested-for-being-naked-i

[5thIDSoldier]

Good public service piece, well done.
Small boobs, not the least bit exciting.

Someone finds small boobs exciting, or she wouldn't have a husband.

I think the piece was nicely done but better reserved for a girls health class in High School.

[Samm]

In this situation:

The information piece showed a woman's breast to demonstrate proper technique; a pornographic image would show a woman's breast with the intent of causing sexual arousal.

I don't know about you, but I generally get aroused when closely examining a woman's breast. ;)

[Marleysdaddy]

It was the superbowl for crying out loud. Every family in America was watching. Including yours.
You are incorrect

Could you not make this about me please?
Had you not brought up your family, I wouldn't have even known you had one. You made it about you.

[BiscoHeadx818]

its just a boob. everyone here either likes boobs, or has them. guys show their nips on tv, why cant girls.

and its not like this was meant to excite anybody

[BiscoHeadx818]

i've never understood censorship of the body. pornography is one thing, but something like this?

[Sinister Rouge]

This was shown on broadcast TV, so I guess it's okay here. I'm not sure how I feel about it. It seems harmless, but I might be a little uncomfortable seeing this report with my daughters in the room.

What do you think?

http://cfc.wjla.com/videoondemand.cfm?id=51695


I'm pretty sure your daughters have seen breasts before, considering most women have them.
Since when did we as a society decide that breasts were 'adult content'? Should we blindfold babies when they are breast fed to keep them from being exposed to such vulgar displays?
I see nothing inappropriate at all in this video, and commend the station for airing such informative and potentially lifesaving material, as well as this young woman for the courage to risk the indignation of the overly squeamish.

[Greyclouds]

I'm pretty sure your daughters have seen breasts before, considering most women have them.
Since when did we as a society decide that breasts were 'adult content'? Should we blindfold babies when they are breast fed to keep them from being exposed to such vulgar displays?
I see nothing inappropriate at all in this video, and commend the station for airing such informative and potentially lifesaving material, as well as this young woman for the courage to risk the indignation of the overly squeamish.

YES! They might get scarred from seeing such sexual content at a young age!

[Clintville]

October sweeps
Didn't that start the night after this aired?

[Sinister Rouge]

So is the OP pro-cancer?