Off the wall question

[putputpanorama]

Does anyone know where I can get rockwool insulation?

I cant find the stuff anywhere.

[psyko kat]

just googled it, Lowe's has it....

[psyko kat]

try googling recycled denim insulation.,also..

[putputpanorama]

just googled it, Lowe's has it....

Not anywhere close to here.

Wouldnt mind ordering it.

Tried the 3 local Lowes and they wont do it.

None of even knew what i was talking about

[psyko kat]

Hmmm, if the chain suposidly sells it , it's odd that they won't order it for you.

[putputpanorama]

Thats what I was thinking.

Yeah they look it up in the computer and say not available in this area.

I just kinda want to use it in basement ceiling to cut back on noise.

[psyko kat]

Thats what I was thinking.

Yeah they look it up in the computer and say not available in this area.

I just kinda want to use it in basement ceiling to cut back on noise.

what about recycled denim,??

[putputpanorama]

what about recycled denim,??

well yeah, anything to cut the noise down without having to double sheetrock the room.

Cant seem to find a supplier for that either.

Looking for a blow-in type in a overpriced batts world.

I know someone makes in because thats what my garage has now, but then again that was built before I was born.

[Lego-Man]

Not anywhere close to here.


Where is here?

[birddog1]

None of even knew what i was talking about

Not surprised at this part given that it was Lowe's. In all the Lowe's I have ever been to I have run across exactly two people that knew anything about the products in their section. They generally don't pay well enough to attract people who know anything about building products.

If you want to scatter a group of Lowe's employees just start loading lumber, they'll act like you have a bomb strapped to your chest and completely disapper.

[birddog1]

By the way if you have the wall torn down to the studs you may be better off using spray foam insulation. I am aware of nothing else that insulates or sound proofs as well as it does. It is a little pricey though.

[Seanachie]

Does anyone know where I can get rockwool insulation?

I cant find the stuff anywhere.

Hello PPP,

The following link is for Icynene Foam Insulation. As birddog1 has rightly pointed out about foam insulation; it is pricey.


http://www.icynene.com/

Have you ever been in a crawl space beneath a building and seen the sagging and falling of unsupported fiberglass batting? The rock-wool insulation you mention is probably much heavier than traditional fiberglass. You may have to build a super structure beneath your floor Joices to support and hold up this rock-wool while you put it in place. Sometimes the 'cheaper' method of doing a project has unlooked for costs that you will have to implement to straighten out these unforeseen consequences.

I ran across this foam insulation when doing some research on insulating the floor beneath our Community's Clubhouse. (It is indeed a 4' crawlspace and crawling around on dirt and stones is no fun at all). This building was constructed in 2000 and didn't meet code in many respects. It just cost us over $30,000.00 to bring it up to those codes and get a Certificate of Occupancy for the building's public use. The building of this structure was the epitome of bad planning and is no more than a white elephant IMHO.

The insulation is still not installed and probably won't be till next Spring; if then. I'm sure the 'bad planning' will hold true to form and the cheapest solution will be used to 'solve' the problem. Sometimes it is very difficult to convince anyone to do things right in the 1st place. This is certainly true in this Community.

Well....perhaps the above link will give you some further ideas in solving your problem.

Be well in implementing your planning; good, bad or otherwise,

Jim

PS: If you type in 'Sound Abatement' in the search area of the above cited web page; you may find some useful info on solutions to your sound problem.

[putputpanorama]

Where is here?


SoDak

[putputpanorama]

Not surprised at this part given that it was Lowe's. In all the Lowe's I have ever been to I have run across exactly two people that knew anything about the products in their section. They generally don't pay well enough to attract people who know anything about building products.

If you want to scatter a group of Lowe's employees just start loading lumber, they'll act like you have a bomb strapped to your chest and completely disapper.

:))

Wow! Bout fell out the chair after reading that.

I thought the whole poor customer service was a local problem.

Ya know I think you are allright going to Lowes as long as you dont have to pass though the gates of hell (pick stuff up in the yard). You know those doors inside the building looking to the yard? Thats purgatory as far as Im concerned.

I was at Lowes inside the gates of hell. Came around the corner of the building and BAM! Forklift tiresmoke and then a empty place all by myself. Loading 3 pallets of landscaping block by hand for the first pallet. Then I used their forklift for the other 2.

Ya know when you borrow their forklift then you see some action. Man that manager was ****ed. :))

Oh well.

[putputpanorama]

By the way if you have the wall torn down to the studs you may be better off using spray foam insulation. I am aware of nothing else that insulates or sound proofs as well as it does. It is a little pricey though.

$2.47 a square foot.

Yeah Pricey

[putputpanorama]

Hello PPP,

The following link is for Icynene Foam Insulation. As birddog1 has rightly pointed out about foam insulation; it is pricey.


http://www.icynene.com/

Have you ever been in a crawl space beneath a building and seen the sagging and falling of unsupported fiberglass batting? The rock-wool insulation you mention is probably much heavier than traditional fiberglass. You may have to build a super structure beneath your floor Joices to support and hold up this rock-wool while you put it in place. Sometimes the 'cheaper' method of doing a project has unlooked for costs that you will have to implement to straighten out these unforeseen consequences.

I ran across this foam insulation when doing some research on insulating the floor beneath our Community's Clubhouse. (It is indeed a 4' crawlspace and crawling around on dirt and stones is no fun at all). This building was constructed in 2000 and didn't meet code in many respects. It just cost us over $30,000.00 to bring it up to those codes and get a Certificate of Occupancy for the building's public use. The building of this structure was the epitome of bad planning and is no more than a white elephant IMHO.

The insulation is still not installed and probably won't be till next Spring; if then. I'm sure the 'bad planning' will hold true to form and the cheapest solution will be used to 'solve' the problem. Sometimes it is very difficult to convince anyone to do things right in the 1st place. This is certainly true in this Community.

Well....perhaps the above link will give you some further ideas in solving your problem.

Be well in implementing your planning; good, bad or otherwise,

Jim

PS: If you type in 'Sound Abatement' in the search area of the above cited web page; you may find some useful info on solutions to your sound problem.


Hey thanks for the reply.

Yeah I thought about all the things you mentioned.

Yes the rockwool is a whole lot heavier, but plan is to if/when I get it is to 5/8 sheetrock it within a couple of days, if even. It's a 2 by 12 construction with 16 on center joices. I think that 5/8 should be more than enough support. I hope at least. Time will tell.

Yeah looked into the stuff you mentioned, actually no I didn't I went over to my dads shed that he just had that done to. Yeah it's real nice and its 2.47 a square foot. I could not friggin beleive that.


And about your Clubhouse situation.

Do we live in the same town? Because that story seems an awful lot like what we have going on in my town.

[Seanachie]

Hey thanks for the reply.

Yeah I thought about all the things you mentioned.

Yes the rockwool is a whole lot heavier, but plan is to if/when I get it is to 5/8 sheetrock it within a couple of days, if even. It's a 2 by 12 construction with 16 on center joices. I think that 5/8 should be more than enough support. I hope at least. Time will tell.

Yeah looked into the stuff you mentioned, actually no I didn't I went over to my dads shed that he just had that done to. Yeah it's real nice and its 2.47 a square foot. I could not friggin beleive that.


And about your Clubhouse situation.

Do we live in the same town? Because that story seems an awful lot like what we have going on in my town.

Hello PPP,

I guess half-assing things knows no boundaries. I ran across soundproofing sheet-rock while looking some of this stuff up. A link follows which may have some information which could help. >>>>

http://www.supressproducts.com/soundproofing-articles/Soundproof-Sheetrock.html

There's tons of hits you'll get on this stuff through Googling it.

Just a note: I did some electrical work in an attic many years ago which had rock-wool insulation between the ceiling joices. (The ceilings were old plaster smeared on a lathing backing). I had to get a dust mask to keep from breathing this nasty choking stuff which was combined with 40 some years of dirt and dust. I think this stuff must have been blown in or it just crumbled up loosely through natural decay on its own.

Best of luck with your project,

Jim


WOW! On the cost! That's a project killer that sends ya on the course of a much more reasonable priced material. Geesh! Make sure to protect your lungs; rock-wool probably contains silica dust. This causes silicosis which is quite similar to asbestosis. You might need more than a cheapy dust-mask.

[putputpanorama]

Hello PPP,

I guess half-assing things knows no boundaries. I ran across soundproofing sheet-rock while looking some of this stuff up. A link follows which may have some information which could help. >>>>

http://www.supressproducts.com/soundproofing-articles/Soundproof-Sheetrock.html

There's tons of hits you'll get on this stuff through Googling it.

Just a note: I did some electrical work in an attic many years ago which had rock-wool insulation on the ceiling joices. (The ceilings were old plaster). I had to get a dust mask to keep from breathing this nasty choking stuff which was combined with 40 some years of dirt and dust. I think this stuff must have been blown in or it just crumbled up loosely through natural decay on its own.

Best of luck with your project,

Jim


WOW! On the cost! That's a project killer that sends ya on the course of a much more reasonable priced material. Geesh! Make sure to protect your lungs; rock-wool probably contains silica dust. This causes silicosis which is quite similar to asbestosis. You might need more than a cheapy dust-mask.

Hey you again.

Yeah I looked into a similar product you mentioned and wow, that makes the spray on stuff cheap.

I think it was somethind like $80 bucks a 4x8 sheet.

And I have no doubt the rockwool is some nasty stuff. But from what i hear and read its kinda what Im needing, ya know budget wise.

[putputpanorama]

Alas!

I know everbody is losing sleep over my out of the ballpark question.

But I have found a local mineral wool suplier.

90 cents a square.

Only took 15 stops to the big retaliers to learn nothing.

One stop at a mom and pop and a referal to a place that sells it.

[waynevan]

Hello PPP,

The following link is for Icynene Foam Insulation. As birddog1 has rightly pointed out about foam insulation; it is pricey.


http://www.icynene.com/

Have you ever been in a crawl space beneath a building and seen the sagging and falling of unsupported fiberglass batting? The rock-wool insulation you mention is probably much heavier than traditional fiberglass. You may have to build a super structure beneath your floor Joices to support and hold up this rock-wool while you put it in place. Sometimes the 'cheaper' method of doing a project has unlooked for costs that you will have to implement to straighten out these unforeseen consequences.

I ran across this foam insulation when doing some research on insulating the floor beneath our Community's Clubhouse. (It is indeed a 4' crawlspace and crawling around on dirt and stones is no fun at all). This building was constructed in 2000 and didn't meet code in many respects. It just cost us over $30,000.00 to bring it up to those codes and get a Certificate of Occupancy for the building's public use. The building of this structure was the epitome of bad planning and is no more than a white elephant IMHO.

The insulation is still not installed and probably won't be till next Spring; if then. I'm sure the 'bad planning' will hold true to form and the cheapest solution will be used to 'solve' the problem. Sometimes it is very difficult to convince anyone to do things right in the 1st place. This is certainly true in this Community.

Well....perhaps the above link will give you some further ideas in solving your problem.

Be well in implementing your planning; good, bad or otherwise,

Jim

PS: If you type in 'Sound Abatement' in the search area of the above cited web page; you may find some useful info on solutions to your sound problem.

You can also get foam insulation in DIY kits. http://www.fomofoam.com/index.htm

[Samm]

well yeah, anything to cut the noise down without having to double sheetrock the room.

Cant seem to find a supplier for that either.

Looking for a blow-in type in a overpriced batts world.

I know someone makes in because thats what my garage has now, but then again that was built before I was born.

If sound deadening is your goal, you should also apply acoustic isolation strips to the face of the studs before you reinstall the sheetrock. And if you are really concerned, if you have room, install a panel of sheetrock in between the studs inside the wall cavity. This diagram (for floors rather than walls) is what I am suggesting.

http://www.soundstop.co.uk/solutions/floor_access/under_floor/floor_solution_5.php