Racially Charged Kidnap-Torture Case a Possible Hoax

[skeeter]

Anyone else see this in the news?

CHARLESTON, W.Va. - Megan Williams’ shocking accusations initially strained the imagination: Seven white people beat her with sticks, forced her to eat feces, raped her and taunted her with racial slurs over several days in a ramshackle trailer in West Virginia.

[Abe Babe]

Least. Informative. OP. Ever.

[JenyEliza]

I call Bull **** until further FACTS are provided. It's not like false stories *exactly* like that haven't already been circulated, and when found to be completely FALSE, nobody even apologized to the falisely accused people..

Tawanna Brawley part Deux???

[BrittleBullet]

Whoops. She lied.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568845,00.html

[BrittleBullet]

Anyone else see this in the news?

Next time include a link to the whole article.

[Gabby]

From what I've gathered, she now says that she did have a fight with Bobby Brewster, her boyfriend. That the bruises on her face were from that.

She was angry at him so she inflicted the rest of the injuries on her herself. She than made up lies about being forced to lick up blood, eat rat and dog feces, bring held hostage and being called racial slurs, etc.

Now why would the 8 people confess to something they did not do?

Bobby Brewster beat her up leaving some bad bruises on her face. He definitely needs to do some time for the assault and battery on her.
Why would the rest of them confess to something they did not do? Take a look at them. The entire bunch look like poster children for warning against inbreeding. I doubt there are more than few working brain cells between the enter bunch. These are back hill billies. It would probably be easy for the cops, court appointed attorneys, etc to plant ideas in their heads and get them to do anything.
I’m not suggesting that nothing happened. From the latest development I think that the true is closer to what she is saying now than what she claimed two years ago.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/williams.asp

This really ****es me off. 1) it makes it worse for every women who really does suffer rape, abuse, kidnappings 2) It makes it harder for people to believe a black person when they have real racists thing happen to them.
Despite her mental state, she knows right from wrong and so should pay some price for her lies.

[JenyEliza]

Whoops. She lied.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568845,00.html

Oh. Gee. Imagine that! :doh:

Why do people think they can come up with these fake stories about white gang rapists men making them eat feces and what not? WHY are they allowed to make these false charges and GET AWAY with it?

Tawanna Brawley was never held accountable for her FALSE accusations. Al Sharpton was never held acountable for his part in her FALSE accusations. In fact, none of the idiots that made the RACIST accusations were ever held to account.

Why is THAT OK? Because the falsely accused are WHITE and the accusers are BLACK?

I don't care who you are or what color skin you have, if you make these kinds of false accusations, you need to be held accountable for your egregious behavior in a court of law.

[JediMindTrick]

All seven accused confessed. So either this woman, who has apparent mental issues lied, or all seven of the accused lied. I'd tend to say that the woman probably told the truth back then and is confused about things now given her mental disabilities. That seems much more likely then seven people all individually confessing to a crime.

[JenyEliza]

Oh, of course Mr. Officer. :rolleyes:

[JediMindTrick]

Oh, of course Mr. Officer. :rolleyes:

Any reason why you feel it necessary to start personally attacking me every thread you disagree with me on? I only address the contents of your posts yet you always go personal on me. Its been what, three threads in the last two weeks where the mods have had to come in and clean up your attacks. I'd think you would learn something by now. Not that I'm going to report you, its always been someone else, as your attacks just further illustrate something quite illuminating about you and I find them humorous.

[JenyEliza]

Any reason why you feel it necessary to start personally attacking me every thread you disagree with me on? I only address the contents of your posts yet you always go personal on me. Its been what, three threads in the last two weeks where the mods have had to come in and clean up your attacks. I'd think you would learn something by now. Not that I'm going to report you, its always been someone else, as your attacks just further illustrate something quite illuminating about you and I find them humorous.

That wasn't a personal attack. That was agreeing with an officer of the law, Mr. Officer.

Is there any reason you come on here and doubt a story that has shown to be a LIE?

I don't have anything personal against YOU....I have something against the way you ALWAYS take the LEO side of a story, whether or not you even have facts to back up your position.

Kinda like in THIS THREAD.

Show us the FACTS that say you are right. Don't insist we take your word for it--simply becasue you are an LEO. Your badge doesn't count for **** here. It may work on the streets of your hood--but here, you're a Joe Schmoe like everyone else.

WHERE ARE YOUR FACTS HERE?

You're going on a hunch....and that's ALL.

I'm not buying your hunch. Bring the facts, we'll talk.

[JediMindTrick]

That wasn't a personal attack. That was agreeing with an officer of the law, Mr. Officer.

Is there any reason you come on here and doubt a story that has shown to be a LIE?

I don't have anything personal against YOU....I have something against the way you ALWAYS take the LEO side of a story, whether or not you even have facts to back up your position.

Kinda like in THIS THREAD.

Show us the FACTS that say you are right. Don't insist we take your word for it--simply becasue you are an LEO. Your badge doesn't count for **** here. It may work on the streets of your hood--but here, you're a Joe Schmoe like everyone else.

WHERE ARE YOUR FACTS HERE?

You're going on a hunch....and that's ALL.

I'm not buying your hunch. Bring the facts, we'll talk.

Well lets see. You have seven people who all CONFESSED. That means they admitted to doing everything they were accused of. Why would they do that if they were innocent? If they were coerced don't you think that would have come out in the original trial or sometime since then. Instead all you have now is a developmentally disabled woman suddenly changing her story. I just find it easier to believe that she no longer knows what happened back then. When the Duke rape boys were falsely accused they didn't confess - they protested their innocence far and wide. I'd think these guys would have done the same.

[JenyEliza]

After the Tawanna Brawley ********, I don't believe made up stories of gang rape by white men of black women. Not to be too terribly crude, but I can't envision a bunch of white guys sitting around plotting to go get them some black ass, and while they're at it make the bitch eat some rat **** too.

Especially if they supposedly "hate" black people.

If YOU want to buy Tawanna and this girl's made up ********, help yourself.

Me, not so much. In fact, not at all.

I really am glad you aren't an officer in my town. You scare me sometimes.

[JenyEliza]

oh, and PS.....it's not like detectives and police officers have NEVER intimidated anyone into confessing a crime they DIDN'T commit.

I'm MUCH more likely to believe that is what happened, than this girls stupid story.

[traditional_woman]

After the Tawanna Brawley ********, I don't believe made up stories of gang rape by white men of black women. Not to be too terribly crude, but I can't envision a bunch of white guys sitting around plotting to go get them some black ass, and while they're at it make the bitch eat some rat **** too.

Especially if they supposedly "hate" black people.

If YOU want to buy Tawanna and this girl's made up ********, help yourself.

Me, not so much. In fact, not at all.

I really am glad you aren't an officer in my town. You scare me sometimes.

There are plenty of white dudes into black chics.....if i'm reading you right. Also, even a racist can rape the race he's ''racist'' against. It has been happening since there were slaves and masters. I don't have a concrete opinion on this one. She could be telling the truth now, and lied back then or vice versa. They didn't put her on the stand, all they had was physical evidence and the testimony of the seven,along with the bystander who heard her screaming. Therefore there is no way ANY of us here can provide any facts that weren't used in the courtroom, even then, we don't know every delicate detail. I think it's safe to say, '''we'll never know the whole truth''.

[JediMindTrick]

I really am glad you aren't an officer in my town. You scare me sometimes.

And there you go making it personal again. :rolleyes:

As to the rest of what you said, well I'm not even gonna touch it because its so something. Wow just wow.

[JediMindTrick]

There are plenty of white dudes into black chics.....if i'm reading you right. Also, even a racist can rape the race he's ''racist'' against. It has been happening since there were slaves and masters. I don't have a concrete opinion on this one. She could be telling the truth now, and lied back then or vice versa. They didn't put her on the stand, all they had was physical evidence and the testimony of the seven,along with the bystander who heard her screaming. Therefore there is no way ANY of us here can provide any facts that weren't used in the courtroom, even then, we don't know every delicate detail. I think it's safe to say, '''we'll never know the whole truth''.

Clearly the witness lied. Just like the seven guys who confessed. And the police clearly fabricated the evidence. Because we now know that white men don't rape black chicks. :rolleyes:

[traditional_woman]

Clearly the witness lied. Just like the seven guys who confessed. And the police clearly fabricated the evidence. Because we now know that white men don't rape black chicks. :rolleyes:

I am black (but i kinda have that mixed look so everyone just assumes i am) my husband is white. He's always been more attracted to the brown skin. I have also met several interacial couples (black woman white man). Some it was their preference, others, it just so happened that was who they fell in love with. I still get checked out by just as many white men as i do black, and hispanics.

[TheRealBigDaddy]

JediMindTrick is right, here is a response to the new claims by one of those in prison.



http://www.dailymail.com/News/200910240289

WEST COLUMBIA, W.Va. (AP) - A woman imprisoned for her role in the 2007 kidnapping and torture of a black woman by seven white men and women in West Virginia said Friday the victim wasn't telling the truth when she denied this week that the attack occurred.

Frankie Brewster told WCHS-TV in Charleston that multiple crimes were committed against Megan Williams during the attack in rural Logan County, about 50 miles south of Charleston.

...

Brewster is rejecting Williams' new version of events.

"It did happen," Brewster said during the interview at the Lakin Correctional Center, where she is serving 10 to 25 years. "All of us participated."

[Guild-Sfire]

After the Tawanna Brawley ********, I don't believe made up stories of gang rape by white men of black women. Not to be too terribly crude, but I can't envision a bunch of white guys sitting around plotting to go get them some black ass, and while they're at it make the bitch eat some rat **** too.



What is wrong with Black ass?

[old guy]

After the Tawanna Brawley ********, I don't believe made up stories of gang rape by white men of black women. Not to be too terribly crude, but I can't envision a bunch of white guys sitting around plotting to go get them some black ass, and while they're at it make the bitch eat some rat **** too.

Especially if they supposedly "hate" black people.

If YOU want to buy Tawanna and this girl's made up ********, help yourself.

Me, not so much. In fact, not at all.

I really am glad you aren't an officer in my town. You scare me sometimes.


all i can say is WOW

[FidelisAdMortem]

If shes recanting the entired incident, its an injustice to keep those individuals behind bars.

The fact they admitted guilt does not mean they are guilty. Wouldn't be the first time a person plead guilty and they werent.

[Gabby]

oh, and PS.....it's not like detectives and police officers have NEVER intimidated anyone into confessing a crime they DIDN'T commit.

I'm MUCH more likely to believe that is what happened, than this girls stupid story.

Megan was in a relationship with one the guys who were accused. She continues to say that her boyfriend did beat her up.... he caused the bruises on her face. It's pretty easy to imagine that he did say some rasists things to her while he was hitting her. Generally when a guy is beating on his woman he is also yelling all kinds of hateful stuff at here. He confessed to beating her and saying hateful, even racists, things. I doubt that the boyfriend is any more intelligent than she. Few people intelligent people will date a mentally challenged person.

As for the rest of them; I would not be surprised at all if it turned about that they were intimidated and just admitted to whatever they were being charged with. People admit to things that they did not do all the time. It’s one thing that police have to look at when they deal with suspects. I think that we will see a lot of activity in their cases now.

[Stuball]

After the Tawanna Brawley ********, I don't believe made up stories of gang rape by white men of black women. Not to be too terribly crude, but I can't envision a bunch of white guys sitting around plotting to go get them some black ass, and while they're at it make the bitch eat some rat **** too.

Especially if they supposedly "hate" black people.

If YOU want to buy Tawanna and this girl's made up ********, help yourself.

Me, not so much. In fact, not at all.

I really am glad you aren't an officer in my town. You scare me sometimes.
You never fail to disapoint me Jeny

[Gabby]

JediMindTrick is right, here is a response to the new claims by one of those in prison.



http://www.dailymail.com/News/200910240289

WEST COLUMBIA, W.Va. (AP) - A woman imprisoned for her role in the 2007 kidnapping and torture of a black woman by seven white men and women in West Virginia said Friday the victim wasn't telling the truth when she denied this week that the attack occurred.

Frankie Brewster told WCHS-TV in Charleston that multiple crimes were committed against Megan Williams during the attack in rural Logan County, about 50 miles south of Charleston.

...

Brewster is rejecting Williams' new version of events.

"It did happen," Brewster said during the interview at the Lakin Correctional Center, where she is serving 10 to 25 years. "All of us participated."
Interesting link. I am inclinded to believe Brewster over Williams. Brewster has a lot more to lose over this.

She says that it was not about race but about Williams being accussed of stealing thing like food stamps.

[JediMindTrick]

JediMindTrick is right, here is a response to the new claims by one of those in prison.



http://www.dailymail.com/News/200910240289

WEST COLUMBIA, W.Va. (AP) - A woman imprisoned for her role in the 2007 kidnapping and torture of a black woman by seven white men and women in West Virginia said Friday the victim wasn't telling the truth when she denied this week that the attack occurred.

Frankie Brewster told WCHS-TV in Charleston that multiple crimes were committed against Megan Williams during the attack in rural Logan County, about 50 miles south of Charleston.

...

Brewster is rejecting Williams' new version of events.

"It did happen," Brewster said during the interview at the Lakin Correctional Center, where she is serving 10 to 25 years. "All of us participated."

No, I'm wrong now I know. This must be a case where the prison guards are forcing Brewster to say this because a bunch of white hating blacks would never ever want to do something like this to a black woman.

Ok seriously. Its apparent that this was a real incident and that someone else in this thread severely overreacted in their zeal to exploit what they feel was a racial issue against whites.

[Gabby]

No, I'm wrong now I know. This must be a case where the prison guards are forcing Brewster to say this because a bunch of white hating blacks would never ever want to do something like this to a black woman.

Ok seriously. Its apparent that this was a real incident and that someone else in this thread severely overreacted in their zeal to exploit what they feel was a racial issue against whites.

I believe what Brewster is saying over Williams. But if we are going to believe Brewster you have on whether of not the crimes happened, than we need to also believe here that it was based on accussations that William stole from someone in the group, not race.

[JediMindTrick]

I believe what Brewster is saying over Williams. But if we are going to believe Brewster you have on whether of not the crimes happened, than we need to also believe here that it was based on accussations that William stole from someone in the group, not race.

It wouldn't surprise me too much to find out that race is pretty much irrelevant to this entire incident. There may have been racial epitaphs thrown out during the attack but that doesn't mean they wouldn't have done the exact same thing if the victim had been white. This attack was a power trip by the attackers and meant to degrade the victim. The racial slurs were a way of doing it but if it had been a white woman they would have just used things like the c word that women hate so much.

[Gabby]

It wouldn't surprise me too much to find out that race is pretty much irrelevant to this entire incident. There may have been racial epitaphs thrown out during the attack but that doesn't mean they wouldn't have done the exact same thing if the victim had been white. This attack was a power trip by the attackers and meant to degrade the victim. The racial slurs were a way of doing it but if it had been a white woman they would have just used things like the c word that women hate so much.

I agree. Obviously those who did this are pretty sick individuals.

Many people are very upset about the case being used as an example of a race crime. This has gone a long way to hurt relationships between the races. This case has been sited to me so many times as proof that the racial hated of blacks is still harbored by most whites.

[traditional_woman]

I agree. Obviously those who did this are pretty sick individuals.

Many people are very upset about the case being used as an example of a race crime. This has gone a long way to hurt relationships between the races. This case has been sited to me so many times as proof that the racial hated of blacks is still harbored by most whites.

The media is partially to blame for that.

[sgtmac_46]

All seven accused confessed. So either this woman, who has apparent mental issues lied, or all seven of the accused lied. I'd tend to say that the woman probably told the truth back then and is confused about things now given her mental disabilities. That seems much more likely then seven people all individually confessing to a crime.

Yeah, somethings are pretty wacked out here. Some clarification definitely needs to be made.

[sgtmac_46]

Oh, of course Mr. Officer. :rolleyes:

Would you confess to a rape and kidnapping you didn't commit? If the officers were real nice to you and offered you cookies? Didn't think so. So that begs the question, how do 7 people confess to a crime they didn't commit?

The point is that this isn't so clear cut as everyone seems to think.

[sgtmac_46]

That wasn't a personal attack. That was agreeing with an officer of the law, Mr. Officer.

Is there any reason you come on here and doubt a story that has shown to be a LIE?

I don't have anything personal against YOU....I have something against the way you ALWAYS take the LEO side of a story, whether or not you even have facts to back up your position.

Kinda like in THIS THREAD.

Show us the FACTS that say you are right. Don't insist we take your word for it--simply becasue you are an LEO. Your badge doesn't count for **** here. It may work on the streets of your hood--but here, you're a Joe Schmoe like everyone else.

WHERE ARE YOUR FACTS HERE?

You're going on a hunch....and that's ALL.

I'm not buying your hunch. Bring the facts, we'll talk.

It hasn't be 'shown to be a lie'.......she now says she lied, but that's not the same thing. 7 people confessed, and considerable physical evidence existed that the crime occurred.

Here's the facts, the jury convicted all 7 suspects based on their own testimony AND physical evidence, not this gals testimony. Those are FACTS. Further investigation needs to be looked in to this woman's claim, but she's a nutjob from the start. Doesn't mean that these folks were wrongly convicted, however. If they are, they need to be set free. But that's not the only possibility here.

Did it ever occur to you, perhaps, that some family member has threatened this woman in to recanted her testimony? Is that some possibility that never occurred to you?

As for the rest of your post........:rolleyes:

[sgtmac_46]

After the Tawanna Brawley ********, I don't believe made up stories of gang rape by white men of black women. Not to be too terribly crude, but I can't envision a bunch of white guys sitting around plotting to go get them some black ass, and while they're at it make the bitch eat some rat **** too.

Especially if they supposedly "hate" black people.

If YOU want to buy Tawanna and this girl's made up ********, help yourself.

Me, not so much. In fact, not at all.

I really am glad you aren't an officer in my town. You scare me sometimes.

All the suspects in Tawanna Brawley's case DENIED DOING ANYTHING!

[sgtmac_46]

oh, and PS.....it's not like detectives and police officers have NEVER intimidated anyone into confessing a crime they DIDN'T commit.

I'm MUCH more likely to believe that is what happened, than this girls stupid story.

So 7 people were 'intimidated' in to confessing to kidnapping and rape, it was never mentioned in trial by their attorneys, and they were all convicted based on beaten confessions! :)) :)) :))

RIIIIIGGGGGHHHHHHHTTTTT! Too much TV. ;)

[sgtmac_46]

There are plenty of white dudes into black chics.....if i'm reading you right. Also, even a racist can rape the race he's ''racist'' against. It has been happening since there were slaves and masters. I don't have a concrete opinion on this one. She could be telling the truth now, and lied back then or vice versa. They didn't put her on the stand, all they had was physical evidence and the testimony of the seven,along with the bystander who heard her screaming. Therefore there is no way ANY of us here can provide any facts that weren't used in the courtroom, even then, we don't know every delicate detail. I think it's safe to say, '''we'll never know the whole truth''.

Actually, wasn't one of the suspects her Ex-boyfriend?

[sgtmac_46]

If shes recanting the entired incident, its an injustice to keep those individuals behind bars.

The fact they admitted guilt does not mean they are guilty. Wouldn't be the first time a person plead guilty and they werent.

One of them is still saying they are guilty. Sounds like she's just a nutjob, but this DID really happen.

I think this would be the first time 7 people confessed to a crime that were innocent. One person you might explain as being 'suggestible'......7? Nope! Especially when one who is in jail still swears it happened, and the physical evidence supports her statement.

[sgtmac_46]

Megan was in a relationship with one the guys who were accused. She continues to say that her boyfriend did beat her up.... he caused the bruises on her face. It's pretty easy to imagine that he did say some rasists things to her while he was hitting her. Generally when a guy is beating on his woman he is also yelling all kinds of hateful stuff at here. He confessed to beating her and saying hateful, even racists, things. I doubt that the boyfriend is any more intelligent than she. Few people intelligent people will date a mentally challenged person.

As for the rest of them; I would not be surprised at all if it turned about that they were intimidated and just admitted to whatever they were being charged with. People admit to things that they did not do all the time. It’s one thing that police have to look at when they deal with suspects. I think that we will see a lot of activity in their cases now.


People do not admit to things they didn't do all the time........people LATER CLAIM they were coerced in to admitting to things they did, but that's not remotely the same thing. It's against human nature to admit to something you didn't do.

These 7 committed this crime, one of them STILL says it happened.

More likely explanation, perhaps our victim is being coerced by friends and relatives of the convicted to recant 'OR ELSE!'

[sgtmac_46]

Interesting link. I am inclinded to believe Brewster over Williams. Brewster has a lot more to lose over this.

She says that it was not about race but about Williams being accussed of stealing thing like food stamps.

Exactly! IT would be in Brewster's interest to go along with Williams.......the fact that she is giving a statement that is CONTRARY to her interest, suggest she is telling the truth.

Williams motives are less clear, and it could be that she is being coerced to recant.

[sgtmac_46]

I believe what Brewster is saying over Williams. But if we are going to believe Brewster you have on whether of not the crimes happened, than we need to also believe here that it was based on accussations that William stole from someone in the group, not race.

Obviously race was ultimately irrelevant.......Bobby Brewster was dating Williams.

What this is about is several individuals living on the fringe of society, and how they deal with interpersonal problems. Everyone of these folks, including Williams, are quite 'off'.

But these folks all did what they confessed to having done. Williams motives for changing her story now, however, remains to be seen.........but there are lots of potential answers. Perhaps she and Bobby Brewster have reconciled, and she wants him out of jail.

It's quite conceivable that he DID commit this crime, along with the other 6.........and that she STILL wants to be with him. Some women do some pretty strange things.

Does that mean that the state should say 'Oh.....so you're alright with this now.......well, we did go through a trial and convicted him.........but if you're cool with it........we'll let them go'?




The real lesson here is that some folks need to be careful about jumping to conclusions based solely on a 30 second soundbite on CNN.........these things are often far more complex than that.

[7426k]

After the Tawanna Brawley ********, I don't believe made up stories of gang rape by white men of black women. Not to be too terribly crude, but I can't envision a bunch of white guys sitting around plotting to go get them some black ass, and while they're at it make the bitch eat some rat **** too.

Especially if they supposedly "hate" black people.

If YOU want to buy Tawanna and this girl's made up ********, help yourself.

Me, not so much. In fact, not at all.

I really am glad you aren't an officer in my town. You scare me sometimes.

I'd like to say that this posts amazes me. Sadly, I'd be lying.

[JenyEliza]

Sadly, I'd be lying.

Oh well....would it be the first time? Probably not. *shrug*

[Vaard]

there was physical evidence of rape and the people confessed to the crime......

even back when it happened the prosecuters didnt rely on the womans testimony because she is mentally handicapped......

[Vaard]

Oh well....would it be the first time? Probably not. *shrug*

given your history here, do you think the mods are going to put up with this?

[RickRhetoric]

Why is THAT OK? Because the falsely accused are WHITE and the accusers are BLACK?


Yes, it is indeed OK. And everyone should be OK with it.

Try to bear in mind an all-important and critical premise: For over 200 years black folks in America have suffered and endured egregious and unspeakable hate crimes under the rule of white people. As a small way for white folks to try to compensate African-Americans for the social injustices of both the past and present, white folks should be more understanding and tolerant of any attempts on the part of black Americans to level the social playing field and acquire some pay back and justified retribution in whatever form.

Those white men may not be guilty as charged, but it should be obvious to everyone that they at the very least are guilty of having evil and racist thoughts regarding African-Americans.

White people absolutely must become more in tune with situational awareness, mutual respect, ethnic diversity, multiculturalism and -- tolerance!!!

Thank you!

[Vic Daring]

People do not admit to things they didn't do all the time........people LATER CLAIM they were coerced in to admitting to things they did, but that's not remotely the same thing. It's against human nature to admit to something you didn't do.

That's not quite true.

Click here: http://www.innocenceproject.org/know/Browse-Profiles.php

Browse through the cases. Littered with false confessions. And that's just major cases, overturned by DNA evidence.


These 7 committed this crime, one of them STILL says it happened.

More likely explanation, perhaps our victim is being coerced by friends and relatives of the convicted to recant 'OR ELSE!'

This part I tend to agree with.

Or it could be confusion on the part of the victim.

Whatever...I'm sure not ready to say "never happened."