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samurai7
October 23rd, 2009, 7:35 am
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/22/its-come-to-this-white-house-tries-to-bar-fox-news-from-interviewing-pay-czar/

The other networks deserve the praise they’re getting for standing up to the Baby-in-Chief, but if they had acquiesced in this freezeout, a precedent would have been set that would have been eagerly used by future Republican presidents to close them off too. And don’t think they weren’t all keenly aware of it.

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/22/its-come-to-this-white-house-tries-to-bar-fox-news-from-interviewing-pay-czar/

I mean how childish can you get. Fox News won't worship us like the liberal media so we won't allow Fox News to interview us!

And it backfired. Poor baby Obama the man child isn't getting his way again. :(( :((


:)) :))

Gray
October 23rd, 2009, 8:42 am
Those networks whom we so often criticize DO INDEED deserve kudos.

Make no mistake, though, this was a rare instance of clear foresight on their part. Once we go down that road everyone eventually loses.

I am deeply and profoundly ashamed that Obama has the nerve to call himself an American.

G22Dude
October 23rd, 2009, 9:27 am
I would love to hear someone defend Obama on this. This is beyond the pale

danagoo
October 23rd, 2009, 9:45 am
From Krauthammer:

This was an important defeat because there's a principle at stake here. While government can and should debate and criticize opposition voices, the current White House goes beyond that. It wants to delegitimize any significant dissent. The objective is no secret. White House aides openly told Politico that they're engaged in a deliberate campaign to marginalize and ostracize recalcitrants, from Fox to health insurers to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

There's nothing illegal about such search-and-destroy tactics. Nor unconstitutional. But our politics are defined not just by limits of legality or constitutionality. We have norms, Madisonian norms.

Madison argued that the safety of a great republic, its defense against tyranny, requires the contest between factions or interests. His insight was to understand "the greater security afforded by a greater variety of parties." They would help guarantee liberty by checking and balancing and restraining each other -- and an otherwise imperious government.

The only Madison this Administration recognizes is an avenue in NYC to buy great digs for posh campaign events.

This White House Staff = Most Unethical Ever.

I wonder if Rahmbo is gonna start sending out dead fish again. :think:

CAPTBEACH
October 23rd, 2009, 10:10 am
I think the other networks have realized that if it can happen to FOX...it can surely happen to them...peculiar times we are living in...

Maelstrom
October 23rd, 2009, 10:14 am
Those networks whom we so often criticize DO INDEED deserve kudos.

Make no mistake, though, this was a rare instance of clear foresight on their part. Once we go down that road everyone eventually loses.

I am deeply and profoundly ashamed that Obama has the nerve to call himself an American.

http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?p=62911941#post62911941

Electromyographical Alien
October 23rd, 2009, 10:26 am
As a Fox News viewer, I'm personally offended by this **** Obama's doing.

Because when Obama and his people trash FNC, they trash my interests, and they trash me as an indirect result.

Camp
October 23rd, 2009, 10:32 am
This was a HUGE and dangerous breech of American protocol.

Let us hope the repercussions are appropriately resounding and negative least this ever be attempted again.

ModerateVoice
October 23rd, 2009, 10:34 am
When the other news organizations stood up for Fox, the White House lost.....period. Another FAIL for this administration. Obama's wanted to test how much he could muzzle free speech, and he lost...........we must remain vigilant every time this administration slips on the jackboots and attempt to sully our Constitution.

FreeAndClear
October 23rd, 2009, 10:36 am
As a Fox News viewer, I'm personally offended by this **** Obama's doing.

Because when Obama and his people trash FNC, they trash my interests, and they trash me as an indirect result.


As a critic of Fox i agree with you. This is getting to a point where all the WH is doing is exposing themselves to more and more criticisms while helping the ratings for a cable news network that is already leading other cable news networks. There is no need for this at all.

Let Fox interview whomever they want. I wonder however if something bigger is involved here. I don't know wandering. I just can't understand why the admin would be doing this. As their ardent supporter I am really at a loss as to why give recognition ot that which you should just ignore. I think may be just may be they saw the kind of whopping Clinton received from Fox during the Lewinski scandal. May be this is Obama's preemptive strike at Fox but if so it may be just as poorly planned as our previously president's preemptive strikes.

Iggy
October 23rd, 2009, 10:38 am
Chicago thug politics seems to be backfiring in D.C.

Iggy
October 23rd, 2009, 10:41 am
As a critic of Fox i agree with you. This is getting to a point where all the WH is doing is exposing themselves to more and more criticisms while helping the ratings for a cable news network that is already leading other cable news networks. There is no need for this at all.

Let Fox interview whomever they want. I wonder however if something bigger is involved here. I don't know wandering. I just can't understand why the admin would be doing this. As their ardent supporter I am really at a loss as to why give recognition ot that which you should just ignore. I think may be just may be they saw the kind of whopping Clinton received from Fox during the Lewinski scandal. May be this is Obama's preemptive strike at Fox but if so it may be just as poorly planned as our previously president's preemptive strikes.
The reason the White House is engaging in this folly is simple, they believe their own press. They really do think they are the most wonderful things to ever happen to America and, as such, should be above scrutiny. When Fox dares to not tow the line, they must be destroyed for their blasphemy.

Electromyographical Alien
October 23rd, 2009, 10:42 am
As a critic of Fox i agree with you. This is getting to a point where all the WH is doing is exposing themselves to more and more criticisms while helping the ratings for a cable news network that is already leading other cable news networks. There is no need for this at all.

Let Fox interview whomever they want. I wonder however if something bigger is involved here. I don't know wandering. I just can't understand why the admin would be doing this. As their ardent supporter I am really at a loss as to why give recognition ot that which you should just ignore. I think may be just may be they saw the kind of whopping Clinton received from Fox during the Lewinski scandal. May be this is Obama's preemptive strike at Fox but if so it may be just as poorly planned as our previously president's preemptive strikes.

I tend to agree that there is some other motive here other than simply not liking FNC. I don't know what it is, but this is almost too raw and too simplistic to believe this admin doesn't view some kind of long term result. Like this admin or not, they're too smart to be this blatantly dumb.

ModerateVoice
October 23rd, 2009, 10:43 am
As a critic of Fox i agree with you. This is getting to a point where all the WH is doing is exposing themselves to more and more criticisms while helping the ratings for a cable news network that is already leading other cable news networks. There is no need for this at all.

Let Fox interview whomever they want. I wonder however if something bigger is involved here. I don't know wandering. I just can't understand why the admin would be doing this. As their ardent supporter I am really at a loss as to why give recognition ot that which you should just ignore. I think may be just may be they saw the kind of whopping Clinton received from Fox during the Lewinski scandal. May be this is Obama's preemptive strike at Fox but if so it may be just as poorly planned as our previously president's preemptive strikes.

Quick, the kool-aid is wearing off on this liberal -- he has questions!!!!!! Give him another dose!!!!

FreeAndClear
October 23rd, 2009, 10:43 am
The reason the White House is engaging in this folly is simple, they believe their own press. They really do think they are the most wonderful things to ever happen to America and, as such, should be above scrutiny. When Fox dares to not tow the line, they must be destroyed for their blasphemy.


I don't think that their dislike for Fox is based on their own self-love. I have a feeling may be they believe that in fighting Fox they are not fighting a cable news network but a Republican outlet. I am not saying that FNC is one, I am just saying that their perception of the network may be such and they are adressing it accordingly and very poorly

Mohawk5
October 23rd, 2009, 10:44 am
I can't believe the panty waist's we have running our nation!

GET A BACKBONE!!!!!!

FreeAndClear
October 23rd, 2009, 10:50 am
Quick, the kool-aid is wearing off on this liberal -- he has questions!!!!!! Give him another dose!!!!



MMM Kool-aid! Seriously though I have questioned the need to address FNC for a while and have thought they have been doing a crappy job. I still don't think this is an attack on the First Amendment but a stupid attack on a network because they feel they to be an extention fo the Republican party whether that is actually true or not

ModerateVoice
October 23rd, 2009, 10:58 am
MMM Kool-aid! Seriously though I have questioned the need to address FNC for a while and have thought they have been doing a crappy job. I still don't think this is an attack on the First Amendment but a stupid attack on a network because they feel they to be an extention fo the Republican party whether that is actually true or not

Ahh, but is is an attack on free speech, no matter how veiled...................

Look, there's plenty of people with whom I would love to stick a dirty sock in their mouth, but that would stifle their free speech. The MSM made the absolute right decision sticking up for Fox the other day.......perhaps they recognized Pastor Niemolller's famous poem metaphorically hidden in this White House war on Fox.

rodlang
October 23rd, 2009, 11:27 am
This action only appeals to the HuffPost, DKos, Media Matters folks and Obama already has them. Puzzling that they would try this stunt. The White House is overplaying their hand on the feud with FoxNews.

HoracioMendez
October 23rd, 2009, 11:43 am
Ahh, but is is an attack on free speech, no matter how veiled...................



No, this isn't an attack on free speech, unless you can find the part of the constitution that forces federal employees to give interviews to every media outlet.

Middy
October 23rd, 2009, 12:00 pm
Those networks whom we so often criticize DO INDEED deserve kudos.

Make no mistake, though, this was a rare instance of clear foresight on their part. Once we go down that road everyone eventually loses.

I am deeply and profoundly ashamed that Obama has the nerve to call himself an American.


I am deeply ashamed of this American President, who has had a longheld hostility to this country. The kind of change he is attempting to accomplish, aided and abetted by Maoist, Marxist, and assorted czarist crazies, is causing more turmoil, angst, racism, and repulsion than even the most skeptical of Obama detractors had imagined.

It appears than the weakening of our economy, our national security, and our national pride is not coincidental but is part of a dedicated plan to reduce our power and world supremecy to fall more in line with other less powerful countries on the globe. That would be the social justice sought by our Alinskylike President. He makes my stomach turn.

HoracioMendez
October 23rd, 2009, 12:08 pm
I am deeply ashamed of this American President, who has had a longheld hostility to this country. The kind of change he is attempting to accomplish, aided and abetted by Maoist, Marxist, and assorted czarist crazies, is causing more turmoil, angst, racism, and repulsion than even the most skeptical of Obama detractors had imagined.



Oh ****, now Obama is responsible for the racism against him. Now I've heard everything.

Middy
October 23rd, 2009, 12:16 pm
I don't think that their dislike for Fox is based on their own self-love. I have a feeling may be they believe that in fighting Fox they are not fighting a cable news network but a Republican outlet. I am not saying that FNC is one, I am just saying that their perception of the network may be such and they are adressing it accordingly and very poorly


We have a narcissistic, incompetent, dishonest President who has surrounded himself with thuggish hacks from Chicago. They're accustomed to the Chicago Way, and it may not be as effective nationally as it had been where they come from, and where Obama cut his political teeth.

Obama needs to grow another layer of skin,. His humongous ego is his most dominant character trait. The former President lived with the collective wrath of the lamestream media for so many years, and he knew enough to take it like a man. Obama's ego just can't take any dissent, and he comes across like a whining, immature, little man.

Middy
October 23rd, 2009, 12:21 pm
Oh ****, now Obama is responsible for the racism against him. Now I've heard everything.


Point out where I said that Obama was responsible for that. The kind of change he is trying to implement, and the wide opposition to a large part of it, has prompted Obamtons to charge racism against those who oppose his policies.

Those responsible for the charges of racism are his sycophants who are unable to justify his lamebrain policies any other way, so deflect to the race card.

homiebrah
October 23rd, 2009, 12:22 pm
The White House got all wee-weed up at FoxNews...

:((

Canadian Jane
October 23rd, 2009, 12:22 pm
This was a HUGE and dangerous breech of American protocol.

Let us hope the repercussions are appropriately resounding and negative least this ever be attempted again.



Agreed. Your government has abused its power to try and settle their personal vendettas.

It's time for your citizens to reign this dictatorship in - or you may well learn what real oppression is.

HoracioMendez
October 23rd, 2009, 12:23 pm
Point out where I said that Obama was responsible for that. The kind of change he is trying to implement, and the wide opposition to a large part of it, has prompted Obamtons to charge racism against those who oppose his policies.

Those responsible for the charges of racism are his sycophants who are unable to justify his lamebrain policies any other way, so deflect to the race card.

You didn't say he was responsible for accusations of racism, you said he was responsible for racism. It's right there in the part I quoted before.

Canadian Jane
October 23rd, 2009, 12:29 pm
You didn't say he was responsible for accusations of racism, you said he was responsible for racism. It's right there in the part I quoted before.


I'll say this: Obama contributes to the problems associated with racism. No doubt about that.

As President - he sets a tone. The tone he has set does absolutely nothing to stem racism in America. In fact, I think he has fanned the flames. There is a deep-seated resentment of the white race that exists in your current administration that Obama does NOT discourage. Whether it's because he has no leadership skills - or because he supports the resentment - is anyone's guess.

HoracioMendez
October 23rd, 2009, 12:31 pm
I'll say this: Obama contributes to the problems associated with racism. No doubt about that.

As President - he sets a tone. The tone he has set does absolutely nothing to stem racism in America. In fact, I think he has fanned the flames. There is a deep-seated resentment of the white race that exists in your current administration that Obama does NOT discourage. Whether it's because he has no leadership skills - or because he supports the resentment - is anyone's guess.

Umm, he's said (through his press secretary) that he doesn't think the opposition to him and his policies is based in racism. That sets a pretty good tone I think.

Middy
October 23rd, 2009, 12:42 pm
You didn't say he was responsible for accusations of racism, you said he was responsible for racism. It's right there in the part I quoted before.


The kind of change he is attempting to accomplish, aided and abetted by Maoist, Marxist, and assorted czarist crazies, is causing more turmoil, angst, racism, and repulsion than even the most skeptical of Obama detractors had imagined.

Show me where I said he was responsible for the racism? I said the kind of change he was attempting to accomplish caused.......

Did you ever hear of unintended consequences? I don't believe he intended to cause racism. The policies he is in favor of implementing, when opposed by detractors, cannot be justified by his supporters, and, therefore, they just find it easier to resort to the race card. It is his lapdog defenders who are responsible for the racism. Distorting what I said is another libbie tactic.

The tea partiers were called racists by Obama sycophants by congresspeople, the media, the democrat party, and all over the net. They had no other way to reply to the avid opposition but to cry "racists".

Canadian Jane
October 23rd, 2009, 12:57 pm
Umm, he's said (through his press secretary) that he doesn't think the opposition to him and his policies is based in racism. That sets a pretty good tone I think.


I'm not talking about this incident. I'm talking about his tone towards racism for the past 9 months.

In particular the Gates episode - which proved that often racism is an inappropriate scapegoat for deeper, underlying issues.

And the racist deflections allow the real disease to grow. I think that will be your downfall in America. You always go for the obvious, instead of looking at the deeper issues.

HoracioMendez
October 23rd, 2009, 12:58 pm
I guess I took it as obvious that you're responsible for things you cause, whether intentional or not. You know, personal responsibility and all that.

JudasGoat
October 23rd, 2009, 1:07 pm
I tend to agree that there is some other motive here other than simply not liking FNC. I don't know what it is, but this is almost too raw and too simplistic to believe this admin doesn't view some kind of long term result. Like this admin or not, they're too smart to be this blatantly dumb.

testing the waters for the future?
"nope, not ready yet. Let's give it 10 more years and try again..."

Canadian Jane
October 23rd, 2009, 1:08 pm
I guess I took it as obvious that you're responsible for things you cause, whether intentional or not. You know, personal responsibility and all that.


Agreed.

I'm not sure your President gets that. If he did, he wouldn't spend so much time blaming others for his mediocre successes (i.e. Bush, FOXNews, etc.)

ModerateVoice
October 23rd, 2009, 1:25 pm
No, this isn't an attack on free speech, unless you can find the part of the constitution that forces federal employees to give interviews to every media outlet.

The other media outlets made their show of rare support for Fox specifically because they saw that if Fox can be shut out, discredited, silenced, or any other Alinskyian tactic that the White House thugs so admire, then their freedom of the press was also in danger -- so, yes, freedom of speech was attacked.

Bush played it similar game with certain news agencies himself -- just not nearly at this level. It was wrong when Bush did it, and it is wrong for "Mr. Hope" to do it as well.