Anyone care to play?

[caballus]

Here are some quotes -- can we come up with quotes or current situations from obama that would have the same meaning? Mmmm, mmmmm, mmmmmmmm ....

The only real power comes out of a long rifle.
Joseph Stalin

We don't let them have ideas. Why would we let them have guns?
Joseph Stalin

When we hang the capitalists they will sell us the rope we use.
Joseph Stalin

Josef Stalin quotes:
America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within.

Josef Stalin quotes:
Education is a weapon, whose effect depends on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed.

Stalin's control of the media helped him create an image of himself in the minds of the people that was contrary to reality, both physically and ideologically. --??

Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.
Mao Tse-Tung

The guerrilla must move amongst the people as a fish swims in the sea.
Mao Tse-Tung

All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.
Adolf Hitler

Anyone who sees and paints a sky green and fields blue ought to be sterilized.
Adolf Hitler

Demoralize the enemy from within by surprise, terror, sabotage, assassination. This is the war of the future.
Adolf Hitler

He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.
Adolf Hitler

If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.
Adolf Hitler

The art of leadership... consists in consolidating the attention of the people against a single adversary and taking care that nothing will split up that attention.
Adolf Hitler

Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way round, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise.
Adolf Hitler

What good fortune for governments that the people do not think.
Adolf Hitler

[Rupperov91]

You could shorten your search time drastically by using Reagan.

[Vaard]

but sure, i will play......

"Why of course the people don't want war ... But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." - Hermann Goering, Nazi leader.

[Rupperov91]

but sure, i will play......

"Why of course the people don't want war ... But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." - Hermann Goering, Nazi leader.

Ouch.

[croupier101]

"The civil rights of European Americans are being violated by affirmative action, forced integration and anti-European immigration policies. We face cultural discrimination in the media and education."

[caballus]

Here's a list from a few of 'the other side' of things:

A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.
John F. Kennedy

And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country.
John F. Kennedy

Communism has never come to power in a country that was not disrupted by war or corruption, or both.
John F. Kennedy

Conformity is the jailer of freedom and the enemy of growth.
John F. Kennedy

Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
John F. Kennedy

A Bill of Rights is what the people are entitled to against every government, and what no just government should refuse, or rest on inference.
Thomas Jefferson

All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.
Thomas Jefferson

Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition.
Thomas Jefferson

Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves are its only safe depositories.
Thomas Jefferson

[caballus]

You could shorten your search time drastically by using Reagan.

Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.
Ronald Reagan (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/r/ronaldreag393026.html)

Excellent one!

[clearcarbon]

Still waiting on the
house warming party.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v416/clearcarbon/kery/Obma/Ba_Rock300.jpg

[caballus]

Over the last 15 months, we've traveled to every corner of the United States. I've now been in 57 states? I think one left to go.
Barack Obama (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/b/barackobam409147.html)

We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK. That's not leadership. That's not going to happen.
Barack Obama (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/b/barackobam409126.html)

We need earmark reform, and when I'm President, I will go line by line to make sure that we are not spending money unwisely.
Barack Obama (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/b/barackobam409216.html)

What Washington needs is adult supervision.
Barack Obama (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/b/barackobam409129.html)

You will not see any of your taxes increase one single dime.
Barack Obama (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/b/barackobam409242.html)



More?

[Vic Daring]

See my sig.

[Jim50]

"What country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms." (Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, Dec. 20, 1787, in Papers of Jefferson, ed. Boyd et al.)

"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson

"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed." (Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers at 184-8)

"The people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full possession of them." (Zachariah Johnson, 3 Elliot, Debates at 646)

"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for few public officials." (George Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 425-426)

"...to disarm the people - that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them." (George Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 380)

"the ultimate authority ... resides in the people alone," (James Madison, author of the Bill of Rights, in Federalist Paper #46.)
"The maintenance of the right to bear arms is a most essential one to every free people and should not be whittled down by technical constructions." [State vs. Kerner, 181 N.C. 574, 107 S.E. 222, at 224 (1921)]

For, in principle, there is no difference between a law prohibiting the wearing of concealed arms, and a law forbidding the wearing such as are exposed; and if the former be unconstitutional, the latter must be so likewise. But it should not be forgotten, that it is not only a part of the right that is secured by the constitution; it is the right entire and complete, as it existed at the adoption of the constitution; and if any portion of that right be impaired, immaterial how small the part may be, and immaterial the order of time at which it be done, it is equally forbidden by the constitution."

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." (letter to Isaac Tifany, 1819)

"The right of a citizen to bear arms, in lawful defense of himself or the State, is absolute. He does not derive it from the State government. It is one of the "high powers" delegated directly to the citizen, and `is excepted out of the general powers of government.' A law cannot be passed to infringe upon or impair it, because it is above the law, and independent of the lawmaking power." [Cockrum v. State, 24 Tex. 394, at 401-402 (1859)]

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a moneyed aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson

This is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of society is reduced to mere automatons of misery, to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering... And the fore horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in it's train wretchedness and oppression." -- Thomas Jefferson

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. -- Thomas Jefferson

A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government. -- Thomas Jefferson

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. -- Thomas Jefferson

"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed." -- Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824. ME 16:45

I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive. -- Thomas Jefferson

Most bad government has grown out of too much government. -- Thomas Jefferson

I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious. -- Thomas Jefferson

Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have ... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases. -- Thomas Jefferson

[B]I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever. -- Thomas Jefferson

[caballus]

Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have ... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases. -- Thomas Jefferson

THAT one deserves repeating over and over and over again ... until it is embedded in our 'collective' brain(s).

[Vaard]

Here's a list from a few of 'the other side' of things:

since jefferson was a dem and kennedy was a liberal.......

and you called them the "other side" of hitler , mao and stalin.........

and republicans are the other side of liberal and dem.....


hmm....

[caballus]

since jefferson was a dem and kennedy was a liberal.......

and you called them the "other side" of hitler , mao and stalin.........

and republicans are the other side of liberal and dem.....


hmm....Get past the partisan crap and read the quotes with comprehension of their meaning ...

[Vaard]

Get past the partisan crap and read the quotes with comprehension of their meaning ...

hey, you wanted to play......


if you wanted to be serious, you should have not titled the thread as you did......

[caballus]

Got your attention, didn't it? *grin*

[croupier101]

but sure, i will play......

"Why of course the people don't want war ... But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." - Hermann Goering, Nazi leader.

:cool:

[rckirby]

The natural liberty of man is to be free from any superior power on Earth, and not to be under the will or legislative authority of man, but only to have the law of nature for his rule.
Samuel Adams

Driven from every other corner of the earth, freedom of thought and the right of private judgment in matters of conscience direct their course to this in happy country as their last asylum. Samuel Adams


If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin. Samuel Adams


It is a very great mistake to imagine that the object of loyalty is the authority and interest of one individual man, however dignified by the applause or enriched by the success of popular actions. Samuel Adams

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[Rurudyne]

"Ability without honor is useless." — Cicero

"Cannot people realize how large an income is thrift?" — Cicero

"Frivolity is inborn, conceit acquired by education." — Cicero

... aaaaand for those in the Blogverse and forums everywhere:

"Even if you have nothing to write, write and say so." — Cicero

[croupier101]

"He that goes a borrowing goes a sorrowing."

[Vaard]

Got your attention, didn't it? *grin*

its a very slow day at work today......


naked pitcures of helen thomas would get my attention for the next two hours.......

[Rurudyne]

"He that goes a borrowing goes a sorrowing."
There's an old boot hill tombstone for a guy well known for bumming his booze: "This one's on me."

[Vaard]

the biggest thing i dont understand is why because some great (good or bad) says something that it is automatically taken as unwavering truth?

[Rurudyne]

the biggest thing i dont understand is why because some great (good or bad) says something that it is automatically taken as unwavering truth?
What, you mean like our nation's essentially idolatrous fascination with "credentials"? ;)

[Vaard]

What, you mean like our nation's essentially idolatrous fascination with "credentials"? ;)

no..... not just america.......

people repeat quotes by hitler, jefferson, mao, franklin ciecero......

just because they say something, people accept it as true and dont challenge the quotes.....

[caballus]

Actually ... didn't think of challenging but did want to see how Obama, his quotes, his actions coordinate with the first list of quotes I put up.

[Rurudyne]

no..... not just america.......

people repeat quotes by hitler, jefferson, mao, franklin ciecero......

just because they say something, people accept it as true and dont challenge the quotes.....
Well, some provide quote they disagree with.

Others provide quotes they agree with.

The "game" has ill defined rules.

Me, I quoted Cicero to provide an abstract of sorts when taken together: associating a lack of honor ultimately with a lack of thrift and ability without honor with conceit ... a fair characterization of Washington DC (even in those few times people actually ARE competent) I should think.

[Rurudyne]

Actually ... didn't think of challenging but did want to see how Obama, his quotes, his actions coordinate with the first list of quotes I put up.
Tyrants all play from the same page in the end. They all drink heavily from the fount of Arbitrary government and absolute rule.

It really doesn't matter if they are "good tyrants" or "evil tyrants" in their intentions in that respect.

[Jim50]

no..... not just america.......

people repeat quotes by hitler, jefferson, mao, franklin ciecero......

just because they say something, people accept it as true and dont challenge the quotes.....


"D'oh!" -- Homer Simpson

[Imperialparadox]

since jefferson was a dem and kennedy was a liberal.......

and you called them the "other side" of hitler , mao and stalin.........

and republicans are the other side of liberal and dem.....


hmm....

Vaard, that's not fair using your brain and all that, what are you some kind of namby-pamby edumacation-elitist? :mrgreen:

[Imperialparadox]

"D'oh!" -- Homer Simpson

Actually I think that quote does a wonderful job of defining the whole apparatus of government. :cool:

[justsaynobama]

Not sure who said this, but I liked it , so I have it written down in my journal of favorite quotes and sayings...
" There is no profit in curing the body If in the process we destroy the soul "

[Jim50]

Actually I think that quote does a wonderful job of defining the whole apparatus of government. :cool:

I think I want that quote on my tombstone. ;)

[brouski]

"Ability without honor is useless." — Cicero

"Cannot people realize how large an income is thrift?" — Cicero

"Frivolity is inborn, conceit acquired by education." — Cicero

... aaaaand for those in the Blogverse and forums everywhere:

"Even if you have nothing to write, write and say so." — Cicero

Sounds like Cicero was in favor of shamelessly padding post count.

[brouski]

Sounds like Cicero was in favor of shamelessly padding post count.

You got THAT right!

[Rurudyne]

Sounds like Cicero was in favor of shamelessly padding post count.
:mrgreen:

Write,
Write a post,
Abuse fonts,
Use Bold and CAPS
Write of little or grand
Write of happy or sad

Write,
Write a post,
Use big words
Cut and Paste
Don't worry if it makes sense to anyone
Who's not already on the same page
Just write,
Write a post! [/Carpenters]

[Rurudyne]

You got THAT right!
Cute! :clap:

[82 Charlie]

since jefferson was a dem and kennedy was a liberal.......

and you called them the "other side" of hitler , mao and stalin.........

and republicans are the other side of liberal and dem.....


hmm....

No, Jefferson was the cofounder and leader of the Democratic – Republican party,
Seeing that you have a Jefferson quote in your sig you should know that