Man Asked His Own Daughter for Sex on Facebook

[Dual867PowerMac]

Okay... now I am sickened. :eek:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,563280,00.html?test=latestnews

[sircharliebrown]

That's disgusting.

:sick:

[USMCmom]

That is just disgusting...how can a father do that?

[Drawz]

Glad he's stupid in addition to being sick.

[AutoRacer55]

Incest, the game the whole family can play!

[BillBrown]

It didn't say how old the daughter is.
She could be 45 years old.

Very inept piece of reporting.

[Drawz]

It didn't say how old the daughter is.
She could be 45 years old.

Very inept piece of reporting.
I noticed that as well. The fact that the daughter told her mother who then told the police is the only indication that she's likely a minor. That and his arrest of course.

[Samm]

Perhaps it was just a very misguided test to scare her of the dangers of Internet liaisons? :think:

[Drawz]

Perhaps it was just a very misguided test to scare her of the dangers of Internet liaisons? :think:

Except he wasn't posing as a stranger.

[NascarGirl2448]

That guy needs to be sent to a mental hospital, because something ain't right in Georgia with his head.

[Samm]

Except he wasn't posing as a stranger.

You are right... I missed that.

[Theranna]

It didn't say how old the daughter is.
She could be 45 years old.

Very inept piece of reporting.

Actually, they usually tend to avoid mentioning the names of underage victims.

And why would her age make a difference? Is incest OK for older biological offsprings?

[BillBrown]

Actually, they usually tend to avoid mentioning the names of underage victims.

And why would her age make a difference? Is incest OK for older biological offsprings?



I didn't say anything about a name.

The report should have at least stated the girl was underage. It didn't.

Incest between adults isn't illegal. I don't know what you mean by "OK". It's certainly immoral.

The article was very poorly written. The reporter should be fired or at least retrained.

[Hadassah]

It didn't say how old the daughter is.
She could be 45 years old.

Very inept piece of reporting.

From the article:
The state Child Predator Unit and Ephrata Police arrested Forehand when he arrived at a predetermined meeting location on October 7



Chances are the state Child Predator Unit wouldn't have been involved unless his daughter was a minor.

[BillBrown]

From the article:




Chances are the state Child Predator Unit wouldn't have been involved unless his daughter was a minor.

Of course. That isn't the point.
The whole crime centered on the fact the girl is underage.
You have to look for clues, to figure it out.
You shouldn't have to.
The article is poorly written

[USMCmom]

I believe that she was 13...her and her dad were estranged. He hadn't seen her since she was 3 and found her on Facebook.

[Remus Lupin]

I'd say club him like a baby seal.

[Stuball]

Was he Ryan O'Neal?

[Getty Girl]

That is just disgusting...how can a father do that?

because he's a sick mother ****ing sperm donor.

[MarkyS]

Was he Ryan O'Neal?

No, probably John Phillips, of the Mamas and the Papas. Oh, wait. He's dead.

M

[Nik Notorious]

I agree, this article is poorly written. The writer failed to answer one of the most important questions about this case.

















Was the daughter hot?

sorry folks, I couldn't pass this one up.

[Poisonshady313]

Of course. That isn't the point.
The whole crime centered on the fact the girl is underage.
You have to look for clues, to figure it out.
You shouldn't have to.
The article is poorly written

Thing is, the article was not centered on the crime. It was centered on this horrible use of Facebook.

It's in the Science and Technology section.

The article told you all you needed to know.

The fact that she's underage certainly explains the mention of the Child Predator Unit... but that's not so much the focus of the story, as is the fact that a father asked his own daughter for sex on Facebook.

[Getty Girl]

I agree, this article is poorly written. The writer failed to answer one of the most important questions about this case.



Was the daughter hot?

sorry folks, I couldn't pass this one up.

dude that was so wrong...

[Nik Notorious]

dude that was so wrong...


Sometimes, even bad jokes need to be told. :)

[BillBrown]

Thing is, the article was not centered on the crime. It was centered on this horrible use of Facebook.

It's in the Science and Technology section.

The article told you all you needed to know.

The fact that she's underage certainly explains the mention of the Child Predator Unit... but that's not so much the focus of the story, as is the fact that a father asked his own daughter for sex on Facebook.

But what was the crime? Attempted incest? Soliciting a child? Did he make threats over the internet? Did he also try to sell her dope?
We don't know. This reporter didn't tell us. We don't even know the nature of what he was charged with. We're told that "Forehand faces numerous charges". What charges? Jaywalking? Unpaid traffic tickets?

The article is not centered on Facebook. Half of it is given over to several other arrests, without any mention of Facebook. They may have involved Facebook, but again, the idiot who wrote it does not tell us that.

[Gabby]

It didn't say how old the daughter is.
She could be 45 years old.

Very inept piece of reporting.

In another article I read on this it said that she is 16. In some states that is the age of consent.

This is one very mentally off man.

[Gabby]

Here's a link to an artile that does say that he's "facing charges of criminal attempted incest, unlawful contact with a minor and related offenses. He is being held on $750,000 bail."

Sounds to me like he does not have a lot of contact with his daughter.




http://wcco.com/technology/internet.predator.facebook.2.1238509.html

[Tulsa]

Sometimes, even bad jokes need to be told. :)

Unfortunately this wasn't one of those times...

[Nik Notorious]

Unfortunately this wasn't one of those times...


:rolleyes:

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

Here's a link to an artile that does say that he's "facing charges of criminal attempted incest, unlawful contact with a minor and related offenses. He is being held on $750,000 bail."

Sounds to me like he does not have a lot of contact with his daughter.




http://wcco.com/technology/internet.predator.facebook.2.1238509.html

This link gives much more information then the first link in the OP. Thank you Gabby.

A 13 year old girl...being propositioned by her biological father? on Facebook? :naughty::sick::sick::sick::evil: With three other adult men? One of them an EMT? Gads! What in the hell is going through these warped mens minds? I mean really?

Rabid dogs...no amount of meds or mental help is gonna cure them of this type of illness...put um down...put um out of their misery and ours!

sick...just sick....:hand:

~Mysty

[AutoRacer55]

Unfortunately this wasn't one of those times...

Look on page one, then.

[Poisonshady313]

But what was the crime? Attempted incest? Soliciting a child? Did he make threats over the internet? Did he also try to sell her dope?
We don't know. This reporter didn't tell us.

Actually, he did. Attempted incest and soliciting a child. Many of us got that from the article. Apparently, someone needs to draw a diagram for you.

We don't even know the nature of what he was charged with. We're told that "Forehand faces numerous charges". What charges? Jaywalking? Unpaid traffic tickets? Does it really matter?

The article is not centered on Facebook.
It's in the science and technology section of the website. If not facebook, it's at least focused on computers being used for terrible purposes... whether it be child predators, a father asking his daughter for sex, or a combination thereof.

It's surely not Pulitzer prize material... but it's not as badly written as you say. Maybe you'd like a little more information. So what? What was written was enough to get the message across.

I mean seriously... isn't the fact that a father used facebook to ask his own daughter for sex bad enough? You need the author to spell out for you the fact that she's under age as well? Even though that fact is made clear by the rest of the article?

[Samm]

Sometimes, even bad jokes need to be told. :)

Unfortunately this wasn't one of those times...

I agree... incestuous pedophilia is nothing to joke about at any time unless the players are fictitious. You would think everybody would know that... apparently some don't. :neutral:

[Nik Notorious]

I agree... incestuous pedophilia is nothing to joke about at any time unless the players are fictitious. You would think everybody would know that... apparently some don't. :neutral:


:rolleyes:

Lighten up Nancy. And be careful not to fall off that high horse you're riding. The landing might hurt a little.

[Samm]

:rolleyes:

Lighten up Nancy. And be careful not to fall off that high horse you're riding. The landing might hurt a little.

Perhaps you think a father openly soliciting sex from his teen-age daughter is a laughing matter... I do not. As a father of two daughters, for me to hold my position is not an indication that I should lighted up... but for you to hold yours would suggest that you might benefit from a reexamination of your values. I am in no danger of falling and hurting myself; my feet are planted firmly on the ground... yours, however, seem to be wedged firmly in your mouth, which in turn is planted where the sun don't shine. Talk about hurting oneself... :razz:

[Nik Notorious]

Perhaps you think a father openly soliciting sex from his teen-age daughter is a laughing matter... I do not. As a father of two daughters, for me to hold my position is not an indication that I should lighted up... but for you to hold yours would suggest that you might benefit from a reexamination of your values. I am in no danger of falling and hurting myself; my feet are planted firmly on the ground... yours, however, seem to be wedged firmly in your mouth, which in turn is planted where the sun don't shine. Talk about hurting oneself... :razz:


Good lord, you couldn't be more pompous if you tried. I've never read a post here more dripping with smug, self-satisfaction. I need to re-examine my values over one little joke? Get over yourself. That post is a big example of why you need to lighten up.

[Samm]

Good lord, you couldn't be more pompous if you tried. I've never read a post here more dripping with smug, self-satisfaction. I need to re-examine my values over one little joke? Get over yourself. That post is a big example of why you need to lighten up.

Your evaluation of character is as poorly developed as your sense of decency.

[Nik Notorious]

Your evaluation of character is as poorly developed as your sense of decency.


Right-o, sparky. Maybe someday, if I try real hard, I can be as wonderful a human being as you seem to think you are. I can hardly wait.

[Samm]

Right-o, sparky. Maybe someday, if I try real hard, I can be as wonderful a human being as you seem to think you are. I can hardly wait.

Maybe you can, but I doubt it. Your sense of self-importance is far too well developed to recognize your own failings; your ego won't allow you to even consider the opinions of others; then you wrap the whole package with faux indignation. Pretty hard combo to overcome...

I am done with you. :hand:

[Poisonshady313]

Your evaluation of character is as poorly developed as your sense of decency.

For what it's worth, comedy is rarely restrained by any sense of decency.

And consider the volume of jokes about pedophile priests, Michael Jackson, and now Roman Polanski.

[Nik Notorious]

Maybe you can, but I doubt it. Your sense of self-importance is far too well developed to recognize your own failings; your ego won't allow you to even consider the opinions of others; then you wrap the whole package with faux indignation. Pretty hard combo to overcome...

I am done with you. :hand:


Awesome, I got the internet "talk to the hand". What's funny is that everything you've said describes your own posts more than mine. Whatever though. I wouldn't dare try to stand up to the dreaded hand.

[Samm]

For what it's worth, comedy is rarely restrained by any sense of decency.

And consider the volume of jokes about pedophile priests, Michael Jackson, and now Roman Polanski.

Yes... And what do you think about people that make light of pedophilia (and in this case incest) by suggesting that if the victim is good looking its ok? Just because some people are crass does not mean we should accept it from everybody.

[Poisonshady313]

Yes... And what do you think about people that make light of pedophilia (and in this case incest) by suggesting that if the victim is good looking its ok? Just because some people are crass does not mean we should accept it from everybody.

Nobody suggested that pedophilia or incest is ok.

[Samm]

Nobody suggested that pedophilia or incest is ok.

To make light of it... to make jokes about it being ok if the girl is pretty... is to say it is ok.

[Drawz]

This story reminded me of something that happened while I was in HS. I was a senior and a soph. girl joined a club I was in. She was very cute and um, "well developed". Several of my friends and I were flirting with her and such.
Then a couple weeks later we found out that she had skipped sevral grades and was only 13. We were 17 and 18 and WE all thought she was too young and backed off.
How a grown man can proposition a 13 year old, much less his own daughter is beyond me.

[Poisonshady313]

To make light of it... to make jokes about it being ok if the girl is pretty... is to say it is ok.

Nobody said anything about it being ok... and simply making light of it certainly isn't the same as saying it's ok.

[Nik Notorious]

Nobody said anything about it being ok... and simply making light of it certainly isn't the same as saying it's ok.


Exactly. It's not like I'm sitting here rooting for the dad in this story. It's an odd situation that you don't hear about every day, thus making it ripe for a joke.

[Drawz]

Exactly. It's not like I'm sitting here rooting for the dad in this story. It's an odd situation that you don't hear about every day, thus making it ripe for a joke.

I'm a fan of tasteless jokes about almost any subject.
I just don't see the joke in your post.

[Nik Notorious]

I'm a fan of tasteless jokes about almost any subject.
I just don't see the joke in your post.


Well then, you're obviously an uptight jerk with no sense of humor who should pull the stick out.


:) Just kidding. It was either going to make some folks laugh or it wasn't. I probably could have went a different way with it, but I'll stand by my lame attempt at humor.

[DLaw911]

It didn't say how old the daughter is.
She could be 45 years old.

Very inept piece of reporting.This guy is so dumb he probably would have set up the meeting in his own home and invited Stone Phillips to come and watch.

[Drawz]

Well then, you're obviously an uptight jerk with no sense of humor who should pull the stick out.


:) Just kidding. It was either going to make some folks laugh or it wasn't. I probably could have went a different way with it, but I'll stand by my lame attempt at humor.

:lol:
Fair enough.

And I'll keep my stick wherever I please, thank you very much!

[Samm]

Nobody said anything about it being ok... and simply making light of it certainly isn't the same as saying it's ok.

Then we must disagree... IMO, to jest that if this girl is pretty it was ok for her father to proposition her is a tacit approval of the situation. It is one thing to make such a joke generically, but it is another altogether to make that crass suggestion, even in jest, about an actual case.

[Hadassah]

Then we must disagree... IMO, to jest that if this girl is pretty it was ok for her father to proposition her is a tacit approval of the situation. It is one thing to make such a joke generically, but it is another altogether to make that crass suggestion, even in jest, about an actual case.

I'm not thrilled about the joke, either, but frankly, some people do joke about sick and macabe things. Like firemen, EMTs, and nurses......they make tasteless jokes about death and other things they deal with. Many joke about things like this so they don't crack up from all the pain they see day in and day out.

[Samm]

I'm not thrilled about the joke, either, but frankly, some people do joke about sick and macabe things. Like firemen, EMTs, and nurses......they make tasteless jokes about death and other things they deal with. Many joke about things like this so they don't crack up from all the pain they see day in and day out.

So you are equating Nik's crass joke with firemen, EMTs and nurses cracking sick jokes to help them deal with death and such things? :eh:

Give me a break. :rolleyes:

[Nik Notorious]

So you are equating Nik's crass joke with firemen, EMTs and nurses cracking sick jokes to help them deal with death and such things? :eh:

Give me a break. :rolleyes:


Hell, I know you're done with me, but in this case I agree with you. I certainly wasn't trying to deal with any kind of pain when I cracked my little joke. I was just going for a cheap laugh. I like that Hadassah understands the concept of dark humor, but I certainly don't deserve to be lumped in with folks that use it as a defense mechanism.

[nikoloslvy]

Sounds to me like he does not have a lot of contact with his daughter.


followed by this post....

Unfortunately this wasn't one of those times...

made me a lil confused.....

oh i got it now....he was talking to the oder guy....

[Poisonshady313]

Then we must disagree... IMO, to jest that if this girl is pretty it was ok for her father to proposition her is a tacit approval of the situation. It is one thing to make such a joke generically, but it is another altogether to make that crass suggestion, even in jest, about an actual case.

No such suggestion was made. I believe you're constructing a strawman.


There was never a suggestion that it was ok... there was never any sign of approval. You're swinging against an issue that doesn't exist.

[Poisonshady313]

The post in question asked "Is the daughter hot?"

The words "if" and "ok" are nowhere to be found, nor is it implied.

[Nik Notorious]

The post in question asked "Is the daughter hot?"

The words "if" and "ok" are nowhere to be found, nor is it implied.


Thank you, Poison. I appreciate the assist.

[Samm]

Hell, I know you're done with me, but in this case I agree with you. I certainly wasn't trying to deal with any kind of pain when I cracked my little joke. I was just going for a cheap laugh. I like that Hadassah understands the concept of dark humor, but I certainly don't deserve to be lumped in with folks that use it as a defense mechanism.

I enjoy gallows humor as much as the next guy, but when actual individuals are involved in an actual incident, there is a line of decency that should not be crossed. However, I am glad you are not trying to rationalize your "joke" as Hadassah suggested. Let's put this behind us and agree to disagree. OK?

[Samm]

No such suggestion was made. I believe you're constructing a strawman.


There was never a suggestion that it was ok... there was never any sign of approval. You're swinging against an issue that doesn't exist.


The post in question asked "Is the daughter hot?"

The words "if" and "ok" are nowhere to be found, nor is it implied.

In your opinion. To me, the implication was loud and clear. Had it been an innocent question, I would agree with you, but it was not an innocent question; it was offered as a joke... even acknowledged as a "bad joke" by the poster. Asking that question in the context that it was unmistakably says "if she was hot, it is ok." The interpretation of the language used is perfectly clear... there is no strawman.

[Nik Notorious]

I enjoy gallows humor as much as the next guy, but when actual individuals are involved in an actual incident, there is a line of decency that should not be crossed. However, I am glad you are not trying to rationalize your "joke" as Hadassah suggested. Let's put this behind us and agree to disagree. OK?


Can we do that here?


:) I'm happy to let bygones by bygones.