Seriously, where do you guys get your information about what's being taught in school

[bloods vs crips]

More than half of the BS I read about classroom discussions never actually happen.

Some of it does and should occur in high school courses, but based on talking points it seems like many of you think elementary schools are having philosophical discussions about complex issues lol.

Oh, and teachers aren't telling kids what is and isn't moral.

[Iggy]

You know what people are liking right about now? Context. ;)

[Agent655]

Not like there are videos of elementary kids being forced/taught to sing songs in honor of Obama... Or to push his health care program...

[ChaosControl]

I think there is one or two rare occurrences of an event and then people act like it is common.

Even though I went mostly to private school, I did attend a bit of public school and I had no issues other than it being behind the private school in academics and environment. No absolute nonsense was taught.

[Conservative16]

I am planning on posting some of the contents of my Spanish Textbook here soon.

[See It Clearly]

You know what people are liking right about now? Context. ;)
teleprompter must have gone down..

[Apatriot]

More than half of the BS I read about classroom discussions never actually happen.

Some of it does and should occur in high school courses, but based on talking points it seems like many of you think elementary schools are having philosophical discussions about complex issues lol.

Oh, and teachers aren't telling kids what is and isn't moral.

Your assumptions are just as suspect as the people you are lambasting.

Elementary schools aren't having philosophical discussions about complex issues, however, (based on what my kids spout off about environmental issues), they are being taught propaganda about the issues (sometimes even being taught dated propaganda).

There are teachers telling kids what is moral, or giving political opinions. My youngest son was told by a teacher that anyone who didn't vote for Obama was stupid. (I do grant that the exact thing the teacher said was probably different, but that was what my son learned from it.)

The thing is, there are millions of teachers out there. I don't doubt anything that I hear that a teacher has said or taught. However, I do agree with you that a lot of things are blown out of proportion--particular incidents are being generalized.

[County Lawman]

Where do I get my information? From my kid's textbooks and talking to them and asking questions of their teachers.

Believe it or not there are Teachers out there that superimpose their agenda over the lesson plan and "educate" their pupils in certain beliefs, to include asking my oldest daughter if she was "retarded" because she wanted to enlist in the armed forces, further stating "she (my daughter) would die for oil,,,so she must be retarded."

It's not all teachers but believe me the left wing whacko nutjob "educators" and re-educators" are out there.

[Work Ethic]

My Sophomore in High School came home yesterday and told us she had to attend an Assembly on Global Warming. The kids watched a movie that had Obama telling them that "Global Warming is an Undisputed Fact"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuzF91v8iKY&feature=PlayList&p=E04ECA3325E0BDAA&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=7

This is the absolute NONSENSE that our kids are being FORCED to watch!!!

[bloods vs crips]

Your assumptions are just as suspect as the people you are lambasting.

Elementary schools aren't having philosophical discussions about complex issues, however, (based on what my kids spout off about environmental issues), they are being taught propaganda about the issues (sometimes even being taught dated propaganda).

There are teachers telling kids what is moral, or giving political opinions. My youngest son was told by a teacher that anyone who didn't vote for Obama was stupid. (I do grant that the exact thing the teacher said was probably different, but that was what my son learned from it.)

The thing is, there are millions of teachers out there. I don't doubt anything that I hear that a teacher has said or taught. However, I do agree with you that a lot of things are blown out of proportion--particular incidents are being generalized.

Many people on this forum seriously believe that the education system exists to encourage atheism, homosexuality and working for PETA.

[bloods vs crips]

Where do I get my information? From my kid's textbooks and talking to them and asking questions of their teachers.

Believe it or not there are Teachers out there that superimpose their agenda over the lesson plan and "educate" their pupils in certain beliefs, to include asking my oldest daughter if she was "retarded" because she wanted to enlist in the armed forces, further stating "she (my daughter) would die for oil,,,so she must be retarded."

It's not all teachers but believe me the left wing whacko nutjob "educators" and re-educators" are out there.

and so are the reverse. That doesn't mean it's systemic.

[bloods vs crips]

My Sophomore in High School came home yesterday and told us she had to attend an Assembly on Global Warming. The kids watched a movie that had Obama telling them that "Global Warming is an Undisputed Fact"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuzF91v8iKY&feature=PlayList&p=E04ECA3325E0BDAA&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=7

This is the absolute NONSENSE that our kids are being FORCED to watch!!!

and they are also watching videos on Evolution. Would you prefer they didn't do that?

[blackcatrun]

Many people on this forum seriously believe that the education system exists to encourage atheism, homosexuality and working for PETA.

They are working on it.....my kid likes to poke fun about some these very issues to the teachers. They often write asking me to tell him to be more serouse in his views on the worlds down trodden victomhood. I most times write a good some times very openly nonPC correct joke as a responce.

I think a couple of the liberal weenie teachers really hate me with a passion.


I am humbled to be so well dispised.

[County Lawman]

and so are the reverse. That doesn't mean it's systemic.

I'd say that would depend on the area, the school district and the district's administration.

[Nevarwinter]

I am planning on posting some of the contents of my Spanish Textbook here soon.

I really wish I hadn't have sold my intro to geography book. Damn near every chapter had something about glowball warming in it.

[Work Ethic]

and they are also watching videos on Evolution. Would you prefer they didn't do that?

Is Obama also in the videos on Evolution??? Does this Obamot never sleep...he must be constantly making videos to be shown to public school kids!

[grapabeaux]

Seriously, where do you guys get your information about what's being taught in school


From news stories reporting actual events. Your declaration of "BS" doesn't really change that.

[Canoedude]

You are being overly simplistic and trying to debunk a valid concern by over generalizing the issue.

The problem is the daily "flavor" of things. Lets say we took a class from the day they enter Kindergarten through Highschool and constantly state and then reinforce the following notions:

1. The Civil War had NOTHING to do with slavery. It had everything to do with State's rights.

2. Intelligent Design is more valid and explanable than Darwinism (evolution) If everything evolved and there are older life forms than humans, why aren't there other species that are more evolved than the humans?

3. The New Deal has ruined our economy and established the seeds of failure for our nation through the elimination of competion and the work ethic.

4. This country was founded by religious people, following a Christian ethos and were inspired by the belief in a higher deity. That religious background and their belief in God was the reason our nation experienced the success that it has.

Obviously, many of these assertions are inappropriate for school but are listed to provide examples of the opposite types of subtle indoctrination that happens K-12.

No, they don't have a Anti-religion or Non-Conservative Studies class but they slowly flavor the ciriculum over 12 years that has an end result of a liberal leaning student.

[pattyk]

I just know that my son was "taught" to vote for Obama in his senior year at high screwl.

I have a feeling he was "taught" to hate Bush, because that's what he did. I asked him why, and his answer was "because he's stupid"

and yes, he was told that by one of his teachers.

[Czhorat]

You are being overly simplistic and trying to debunk a valid concern by over generalizing the issue.

The problem is the daily "flavor" of things. Lets say we took a class from the day they enter Kindergarten through Highschool and constantly state and then reinforce the following notions:

1. The Civil War had NOTHING to do with slavery. It had everything to do with State's rights.

2. Intelligent Design is more valid and explanable than Darwinism (evolution) If everything evolved and there are older life forms than humans, why aren't there other species that are more evolved than the humans?

3. The New Deal has ruined our economy and established the seeds of failure for our nation through the elimination of competion and the work ethic.

4. This country was founded by religious people, following a Christian ethos and were inspired by the belief in a higher deity. That religious background and their belief in God was the reason our nation experienced the success that it has.

Obviously, many of these assertions are inappropriate for school but are listed to provide examples of the opposite types of subtle indoctrination that happens K-12.

No, they don't have a Anti-religion or Non-Conservative Studies class but they slowly flavor the ciriculum over 12 years that has an end result of a liberal leaning student.

#1 is as simplistic as saying that the civil war was solely about slavery. By High School I had learned that it was more complex than that.

#2 is simply not true. It would be akin to "reinforcing" the idea that the earth is flat. Also note that "Darwinism" is not the correct term for evolution; it is an attempt by anti-intellectual religious conservatives to personalize the debate over science.

#3 is pure opinion.

#4 is partly true; the founders of this country were religious, but their religion was an excuse for much of the ills done (treatment of this continent's native peoples, slavery, etc) as the good (ie, the civil rights movement). Religion as a "cause for this nation's greatness" is a concept unsupported by fact.

So, what you are proposing is not only propaganda, much of it is based on factually dishonest information. Part of the problem is that legitamately true information, especially regarding the origin of species and the maintenance of sexual health, has been made political by a small but vocal subset of the religious right.

[Czhorat]

and they are also watching videos on Evolution. Would you prefer they didn't do that?

Yes. Watching videos is a poor way to educate. I'd prefer they read books and had discussions.

[animalnut]

Many people on this forum seriously believe that the education system exists to encourage atheism, homosexuality and working for PETA.

I've read various threads on education, and I never came away with that opinion.

Most of us have seen SOME teachers slipping their political biases into their classrooms. Some elementary schools are reading the book about the kid who comes out of a closet as a trans-sexual, and there's the book about the Penguins. There is a lot of controversy about age appropriate sex education.

I raised 2 boys, and half raised 3 step kids. I educated them when they began to ask questions, and not before. It's a personal choice, and should be left up to the parents.

When I was in sixth grade we saw a film on human reproduction. LOL - I didn't grasp any of it. Granted, I was still playing with dolls at that time.

Edited to add: My best friend's daughter came home after a 4th grade history lesson. She told her parents the KKK killed almost all of the black people. She isn't quite ready for that discussion yet, but came away thinking almost all blacks were wiped out. Teachers should make sure the kids in their class are mature enough for the material they are teaching, and they should be factual in their history lessons.

[Canoedude]

#1 is as simplistic as saying that the civil war was solely about slavery. By High School I had learned that it was more complex than that.

#2 is simply not true. It would be akin to "reinforcing" the idea that the earth is flat. Also note that "Darwinism" is not the correct term for evolution; it is an attempt by anti-intellectual religious conservatives to personalize the debate over science.

#3 is pure opinion.

#4 is partly true; the founders of this country were religious, but their religion was an excuse for much of the ills done (treatment of this continent's native peoples, slavery, etc) as the good (ie, the civil rights movement). Religion as a "cause for this nation's greatness" is a concept unsupported by fact.

So, what you are proposing is not only propaganda, much of it is based on factually dishonest information. Part of the problem is that legitamately true information, especially regarding the origin of species and the maintenance of sexual health, has been made political by a small but vocal subset of the religious right.
A swing and a miss. of course I was being simplistic and overly general. The purpose of my post was to show how over time, constantly reinforcing ideas that are contrary to the lefts beliefs would, over time, create a segment of the population that is sympathetic to Conservative ideas.

I wasn't putting those forth as ideas for actual cirriculae. I would argue however that many things currently taught such as global warming, the value of unions, the treatment of native americans and the villainization of the first settlers IS opinion and is taught as fact.

Liberal viewpoints aren't as easily defendable when you cut the liberal viewpoint and insert the Conservative one. If your argument was valid, it should stand the test of the reverse arument.

[Ingator]

My Sophomore in High School came home yesterday and told us she had to attend an Assembly on Global Warming. The kids watched a movie that had Obama telling them that "Global Warming is an Undisputed Fact"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuzF91v8iKY&feature=PlayList&p=E04ECA3325E0BDAA&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=7

This is the absolute NONSENSE that our kids are being FORCED to watch!!!


Take your kid out of that school, yesterday

[Ingator]

I just know that my son was "taught" to vote for Obama in his senior year at high screwl.

I have a feeling he was "taught" to hate Bush, because that's what he did. I asked him why, and his answer was "because he's stupid"

and yes, he was told that by one of his teachers.


People can be made to believe anything or anything about anyone. A skilled person in hypnosis could make anyone think they were Napoleon or could make them accept any idea they felt like inserting into the "subject"

[CaughtInTheMiddle]

More than half of the BS I read about classroom discussions never actually happen.

Some of it does and should occur in high school courses, but based on talking points it seems like many of you think elementary schools are having philosophical discussions about complex issues lol.

Oh, and teachers aren't telling kids what is and isn't moral.

I have to agree. I go into my daughter's school and it's nothing like what's presented here.

And believe it or not, the "Pledge" is on the wall. And it's the one that was modified in the '50s.


I've said it before and I'll say it again, you can't trust thread titles here. You have to drill down about 4 pages before you even get close to the truth. And I'm not sure I trust it even then.

[chip]

Many people on this forum seriously believe that the education system exists to encourage atheism, homosexuality and working for PETA.

Oops

"Kids are being aggressively recruited to become heterosexual in this country." ---Kevin Jennings Obamas safe School Czar

[Mojotiger]

Oops

"Kids are being aggressively recruited to become heterosexual in this country." ---Kevin Jennings Obamas safe School Czar

That's different.

[WorldWatcher]

People can be made to believe anything or anything about anyone. A skilled person in hypnosis could make anyone think they were Napoleon or could make them accept any idea they felt like inserting into the "subject"


Can the hypnotist make me do funny, weird, or bad things?

No. You are awake, relaxed, and in total control throughout the entire session. No hypnotist can ever make you do anything you don't want to do. People do funny things for a stage hypnotist at a comedy club because they volunteer to go on stage; they expect the stage hypnotist to ask them to do funny things. If they really don't want to listen to the hypnotist's suggestions, they don't. For example, if a hypnotist asked you to do something immoral or unethical (such as hit somebody or rob a bank) you would reject the suggestion. You have the same free will to reject "silly" suggestions at comedy shows. Link (http://www.lakesidetherapy.com/FAQ.htm#Can%20the%20hypnotherapist%20make%20me)


Long gone are the days when hypnosis was seen as waving watches and controlling people's minds. In a hypnotherapy session you are always in control and you are not made to do anything. Link (http://www.hypnosis.me.uk/pages/whatis.html)


Can anyone be hypnotised?

Yes, everybody is hypnotizable to some extent - some more than others. Susceptibility to hypnosis can be measured with a hypnotic susceptibility scale (see 'measurement of hypnosis'. Researchers tend to classify people as 'highs', 'mediums', or 'lows'. About 80% of people are in the 'medium' band - meaning that they can experience many of the effects of hypnotic suggestion, and are likeely to benefit from its clinical use if necessary. Approximately 10% of the population are considered highly hypnotizable - meaning that they can readily experience quite dramatic changes in sensation and perception with hypnosis. Roughly 10% are classified as 'low' - meaning that they have not responded strongly to hypnosis (although there are some skills programmes which aim to increase susceptibility to hypnosis). Link (http://www.hypnosisandsuggestion.org/faq.html#anyone)



Can hypnosis make me do things I don't want to do?

The simple answer is no, you can't be made to do anything you don't want to do in hypnosis. In hypnosis you retain power over your ability to act upon suggestions, although if you do allow yourself to act upon a suggestion you may feel as though the effects are happening by themselves. Link (http://www.hypnosisandsuggestion.org/faq.html#anyone)


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[Ingator]

Ohhh bad font color on white

Can the hypnotist make me do funny, weird, or bad things?

No. You are awake, relaxed, and in total control throughout the entire session. No hypnotist can ever make you do anything you don't want to do. People do funny things for a stage hypnotist at a comedy club because they volunteer to go on stage; they expect the stage hypnotist to ask them to do funny things. If they really don't want to listen to the hypnotist's suggestions, they don't. For example, if a hypnotist asked you to do something immoral or unethical (such as hit somebody or rob a bank) you would reject the suggestion. You have the same free will to reject "silly" suggestions at comedy shows. Link (http://www.lakesidetherapy.com/FAQ.htm#Can%20the%20hypnotherapist%20make%20me)



Long gone are the days when hypnosis was seen as waving watches and controlling people's minds. In a hypnotherapy session you are always in control and you are not made to do anything. Link (http://www.hypnosis.me.uk/pages/whatis.html)


Can anyone be hypnotised?

Yes, everybody is hypnotizable to some extent - some more than others. Susceptibility to hypnosis can be measured with a hypnotic susceptibility scale (see 'measurement of hypnosis'. Researchers tend to classify people as 'highs', 'mediums', or 'lows'. About 80% of people are in the 'medium' band - meaning that they can experience many of the effects of hypnotic suggestion, and are likeely to benefit from its clinical use if necessary. Approximately 10% of the population are considered highly hypnotizable - meaning that they can readily experience quite dramatic changes in sensation and perception with hypnosis. Roughly 10% are classified as 'low' - meaning that they have not responded strongly to hypnosis (although there are some skills programmes which aim to increase susceptibility to hypnosis). Link (http://www.hypnosisandsuggestion.org/faq.html#anyone)



Can hypnosis make me do things I don't want to do?

The simple answer is no, you can't be made to do anything you don't want to do in hypnosis. In hypnosis you retain power over your ability to act upon suggestions, although if you do allow yourself to act upon a suggestion you may feel as though the effects are happening by themselves. Link (http://www.hypnosisandsuggestion.org/faq.html#anyone)


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People can be made to do anything, Period.
You Don't need a staged hypnotist to hypnotize a person. A staged hypnotist is simply amplifying what is occurring in people's day to day lives

Does a 9 year old Palestinian who straps on a bomb really want to blow himself and others up? No, but they can be made to think they want too and then carry it out, thinking it was their own idea. Then they defend the action.

[chip]

That's different.

You mean Different.

[WorldWatcher]

Ohhh bad font color on white


I didn't post that font color on white, I posted it on blue.



People can be made to do anything, Period.
You Don't need a staged hypnotist to hypnotize a person. A staged hypnotist is simply amplifying what is occurring in people's day to day lives

Does a 9 year old Palestinian who straps on a bomb really want to blow himself and others up? No, but they can be made to think they want too and then carry it out, thinking it was their own idea. Then they defend the action.



Regarding hypnotism I already showed your opinion to be false but you can believe as you wish.

As to your second statement... If a 9-year old Palestinian strapped on a bomb and blew himself and others up, then (s)he wouldn't be around to try to defend it. If on the other hand they didn't blow themselves up, then they would be around to defend the fact that they didn't complete their mission.



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[DougBH]

Seriously, where do you guys get your information about what's being taught in school.

By listening to children singing Obama songs?

[Ingator]

I didn't post that font color on white, I posted it on blue.







Regarding hypnotism I already showed your opinion to be false but you can believe as you wish.

As to your second statement... If a 9-year old Palestinian strapped on a bomb and blew himself and others up, then (s)he wouldn't be around to try to defend it. If on the other hand they didn't blow themselves up, then they would be around to defend the fact that they didn't complete their mission.



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Sorry it's not an opinion. Yeah I kinda used a bad example. The moral: people tend to defend their actions. As long as their not dead::eek:

[WorldWatcher]

Sorry it's not an opinion.


Sure it is and I provided the links to disprove it.

How many links to hypnotherapist organizations have you supplied showing they hypnosis can turn people into mindless zombies capable of being made to do anything their master demanded of them.

Believe me no body in the world could hypnotize me and make be want to sleep with Hillary.


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[aep1974]

You are being overly simplistic and trying to debunk a valid concern by over generalizing the issue.

Side note: That is one of the most horrifying avatars I've seen in awhile. I hate clowns!!!

[betwixt]

I'm not on either side of this discussion...yet.
My children are in 7th 5th and K.

I would hope that the sex Ed. class (homosexual,hetro or transgender) is at an age appropriate grade.

The global warming has been taught but comes across more of -save your family energy, and cut down on pollutants-

The only political "hype" from thier school was Obama's speach and only the kids that had Social Studies seen it.

Some of the topics I have read here I have pointedly asked my kids and they don't see it. I'm not saying it happens but how often does this stuff go on?

[Ingator]

Sure it is and I provided the links to disprove it.

How many links to hypnotherapist organizations have you supplied showing they hypnosis can turn people into mindless zombies capable of being made to do anything their master demanded of them.

Believe me no body in the world could hypnotize me and make be want to sleep with Hillary.


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bold mine

Hitler Germany.

Believe me no body in the world could hypnotize me and make be want to sleep with Hillary.
Not even with hot red lipstick and a see through thong?

[bloods vs crips]

From news stories reporting actual events. Your declaration of "BS" doesn't really change that.

Yes, and I'm sure they were really pursuing evidence of the opposite type of indoctrination.

[bloods vs crips]

I just know that my son was "taught" to vote for Obama in his senior year at high screwl.

I have a feeling he was "taught" to hate Bush, because that's what he did. I asked him why, and his answer was "because he's stupid"

and yes, he was told that by one of his teachers.

I'm sure the fact that much of his peers thought the same thing had NO impact?

[bloods vs crips]

A swing and a miss. of course I was being simplistic and overly general. The purpose of my post was to show how over time, constantly reinforcing ideas that are contrary to the lefts beliefs would, over time, create a segment of the population that is sympathetic to Conservative ideas.

I wasn't putting those forth as ideas for actual cirriculae. I would argue however that many things currently taught such as global warming, the value of unions, the treatment of native americans and the villainization of the first settlers IS opinion and is taught as fact.

Liberal viewpoints aren't as easily defendable when you cut the liberal viewpoint and insert the Conservative one. If your argument was valid, it should stand the test of the reverse arument.

The problem is, teaching Evolution for many is a slap in the face of their religion. When you have a bias like that, it's impossible to properly view a myriad of subjects.

[cmorlan]

and they are also watching videos on Evolution. Would you prefer they didn't do that?

I would yes Evolution is no more provbable then creation and Intelligent Design

[bloods vs crips]

I would yes Evolution is no more provbable then creation and Intelligent Design

Evolution isn't the opposite of creation. And creation is firmly based upon a RELIGION!

Furthermore, it's the best scientific data available, which children should be informed of.

[Jim Blockey]

and they are also watching videos on Evolution. Would you prefer they didn't do that?

I think most of us would prefer they teach kids how to read, do math, the history of America, write and think for themselves. All of the preceding subjects are secondary to what students are primarly taught in schools today.
You do not need to look for surveys or studies on this... just look at the world around you... look at reality.... LOOK at the RESULTS.
Go to www.jimblockey.com/teachersitaintyourfault (http://www.jimblockey.com/teachersitaintyourfault). See what you think.
It is not for sale it is a free site.

[Czhorat]

A swing and a miss. of course I was being simplistic and overly general. The purpose of my post was to show how over time, constantly reinforcing ideas that are contrary to the lefts beliefs would, over time, create a segment of the population that is sympathetic to Conservative ideas.

I wasn't putting those forth as ideas for actual cirriculae. I would argue however that many things currently taught such as global warming, the value of unions, the treatment of native americans and the villainization of the first settlers IS opinion and is taught as fact.

Liberal viewpoints aren't as easily defendable when you cut the liberal viewpoint and insert the Conservative one. If your argument was valid, it should stand the test of the reverse arument.

The problem is that the majority of what is being "debated" here falls into two categories:

Areas where one set of information is factually true. The best example of this is evolution. Evolution is science, creationism is not.

Sexual health. The question of whether to teach the tools to maintain sexual health and avoid unwanted pregnancy.

Tolerance. THe "liberal" position is that discrimination is bad. This serves a clear benefit to society.

In other words, rather than a faux-balanced "left/right" dichhotemy, argue case-by-case as to what is served by teaching a specific topic.

[johnrocks]

It's been a few decades since I was in school but I was taught basically just the basics like reading,spelling,history,math etc., I sometimes wonder if school has changed so much since I left, I'm no "spring chicken" but I'm not ancient either and I never noticed my child singing songs that praised sitting Presidents or anything.

[goeagles]

More than half of the BS I read about classroom discussions never actually happen.

Some of it does and should occur in high school courses, but based on talking points it seems like many of you think elementary schools are having philosophical discussions about complex issues lol.

Oh, and teachers aren't telling kids what is and isn't moral.
This stuff is made up and circulated on the internet.
Read the stories, and you'll find the same outrageous incident except that depending on where you read it, it was in Baltimore, or Dallas, or St. Louis, or wherever.
Try to verify them with the schools, as I have done many hundreds of times over the years, and nobody ever recognizes the names involved or knows what you're talking about.
Right wing fables--a form of political theatre.

[RWReaganfan]

You are being overly simplistic and trying to debunk a valid concern by over generalizing the issue.

The problem is the daily "flavor" of things. Lets say we took a class from the day they enter Kindergarten through Highschool and constantly state and then reinforce the following notions:

1. The Civil War had NOTHING to do with slavery. It had everything to do with State's rights.

2. Intelligent Design is more valid and explanable than Darwinism (evolution) If everything evolved and there are older life forms than humans, why aren't there other species that are more evolved than the humans?

3. The New Deal has ruined our economy and established the seeds of failure for our nation through the elimination of competion and the work ethic.

4. This country was founded by religious people, following a Christian ethos and were inspired by the belief in a higher deity. That religious background and their belief in God was the reason our nation experienced the success that it has.

Obviously, many of these assertions are inappropriate for school but are listed to provide examples of the opposite types of subtle indoctrination that happens K-12.

No, they don't have a Anti-religion or Non-Conservative Studies class but they slowly flavor the ciriculum over 12 years that has an end result of a liberal leaning student.

In what school are these things being taught or not taught? Your post is quite confusing as you seem to have changed horses in midstream.

No. 1 is the way I teach history.

No. 2 has NEVER been mentioned.

No. 3 is an opinion and has never been mentioned, much less taught. Why would you ever discuss that in a grade school curriculum?

No. 4 is the way I teach history.

I am a teacher and have three children that went through schools in 5 states and this was never a problem. Why do you think it is?

I agree with the original poster. One school in the People's Republic of Taxachusetts goes off the deep end promoting gay rights and you think EVERY school teaches that way. The state of Kansas BOE goes Bible-thumping requiring inetlligent design to be taught and you think EVERY school teaches that way. It is NOT happening as often as is described in the media.

[RWReaganfan]

My Sophomore in High School came home yesterday and told us she had to attend an Assembly on Global Warming. The kids watched a movie that had Obama telling them that "Global Warming is an Undisputed Fact"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuzF91v8iKY&feature=PlayList&p=E04ECA3325E0BDAA&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=7

This is the absolute NONSENSE that our kids are being FORCED to watch!!!

So what are you going to do about it?

Whine on a message board?

[Mobulis]

Sure it is and I provided the links to disprove it.

How many links to hypnotherapist organizations have you supplied showing they hypnosis can turn people into mindless zombies capable of being made to do anything their master demanded of them.

Believe me no body in the world could hypnotize me and make be want to sleep with Hillary.


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Its all in how you word the suggestion.

If you hypnotize someone give them a gun and tell to kill the person in front of them of course they won't do it. But if you tell them the person is a burglar and is going to kill them thats a different story.

[Milkoz]

World Net Daily of course. Why?

[goeagles]

World Net Daily of course. Why?
The mother lode for a lot of this nonsense.

[ScottFree]

Exhibit A. This is an 8 min video shot by a 5th grade science teacher, instructing his students exactly how they will save the planet by turning newspaper into a greenish gray mush. I wonder how "environmentally friendly" that laundry starch is they are using.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dq7xgjyXPA

More to follow...

[Apatriot]

Exhibit A. This is an 8 min video shot by a 5th grade science teacher, instructing his students exactly how they will save the planet by turning newspaper into a greenish gray mush. I wonder how "environmentally friendly" that laundry starch is they are using.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dq7xgjyXPA

More to follow...


What's wrong with recycling? It's a good idea, especially when it comes to metal (i.e. AL cans) and plastic soda bottles.

Laundry starch is just vegetable starch and water. It is very environmentally friendly, in terms of being biodegradable and not harming the water supply. Now creation of it is based on farming whatever kind of vegetable used, so that's slightly environmentally harmful.

[Apatriot]

Yes. Watching videos is a poor way to educate. I'd prefer they read books and had discussions.

Actually, kids retain more out of a relevant video than out of a reading (a picture is worth a thousand words....). Discussions are a good tool in education.

[Apatriot]

I would yes Evolution is no more provbable then creation and Intelligent Design


The difference is that evolution is disprovable. Creation and intelligent design are not. Hence, they are not scientific, since they cannot possibly be disproved.

[UK Glenmont]

they are having maya angelou (sp) week at the local HS.

i have "heard" shes brilliant.

[akuma]

Yes. Watching videos is a poor way to educate. I'd prefer they read books and had discussions.

and you have your multiple Phds in education to substantiate this.....

[MR. MISTER]

I have to agree. I go into my daughter's school and it's nothing like what's presented here.

And believe it or not, the "Pledge" is on the wall. And it's the one that was modified in the '50s.

+1

I remember going to my kids elementary school for parent-teacher conferences last year (October) and seeing kids' projects on the walls - posters about the upcoming election - and just as many pro McCain as pro Obama.

And I'm in NJ.