View Full Version : Anyone have glassware break in the oven?
traditional_woman
October 9th, 2009, 9:58 am
This has happened to me at least 3 times, and i wonder if anyone has an answer as to why it happens.
The first two times it happened I had cooked some sort of casserole, took it out of the oven then placed it ontop the stove, and it just exploded,glass everywhere. Most recently I the glassware/baking dish broke INSIDE the oven. Do you think it's b/c halloween is round the corner, lol.
LouC
October 9th, 2009, 10:16 am
Yes this has happened to me.
It is more common than people realize.
Never use a dish with chips, and if they are the clear or semi clear glass hold them up to a light source before buying them to check for flaws in the glass such as bubbles or ripples.
I had one implode in the oven when cooking enchiladas, and another with baked chicken that I had just placed on a towel on the counter.
Both incidents happened while using an electric oven.
People have been hit and injured by the glass.
Nevarwinter
October 9th, 2009, 10:59 am
Pyrex.
The key to life.
LouC
October 9th, 2009, 11:07 am
Pyrex.
The key to life.
It was Pyrex ware.
Nevarwinter
October 9th, 2009, 11:13 am
It was Pyrex ware.
Then ur doing it wrong. sry.
traditional_woman
October 9th, 2009, 11:24 am
Yes this has happened to me.
It is more common than people realize.
Never use a dish with chips, and if they are the clear or semi clear glass hold them up to a light source before buying them to check for flaws in the glass such as bubbles or ripples.
I had one implode in the oven when cooking enchiladas, and another with baked chicken that I had just placed on a towel on the counter.
Both incidents happened while using an electric oven.
People have been hit and injured by the glass.
The first time it happened my son was only about 8mo old and he had crawled unda foot. He was ONLY inches away from the oven. The glass did not touch him, but glass pieces were all around him. I was praising God that day!
This last time it happened my kids through a fit b/c it was one of their favorite meals:(
StoneScratcher
October 9th, 2009, 11:29 am
I made two lasagne and froze one in a "from freezer to oven" ceramic lasagna pans. A couple of weeks later I popped my frozen lasagna into the oven and then smelled something burning. The bottom of the pan had split open and it was melting onto the heating element and oven bottom.
It was horrible...
It didn't explode or break apart into many pieces, it just split.
I still have a stain that won't come out that rests under the NEW element I had to have put in.
Edited to add: It wasn't clear glass like Pyrex, it was white ceramic, Phalzcraft (sp?).
Koushi Shinigami
October 9th, 2009, 12:50 pm
Then ur doing it wrong. sry.
I wish you were correct. However, I have had this happen to pyrex as well.
Turns out, pyrex is no longer what we think it is.
From an email I got:
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I checked snopes and this is true!
http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/pyrex.asp
Warning regarding Pyrex dishes
About 5:30 PM there was a loud bang from the20oven. Sylvia opened the oven door and the Pyrex dish had shattered into a million pieces. The roast beef (our first in many months) was peppered with small shards of very sharp glass. Normally,I am quick to inform Sylvia she did something stupid. However,this time she was nowhere near the stove when it blew. I shoveled the glass and the now mashed potatoes into a bucket with two putty knives. I then sucked the remains with the shop vac. I let everything cool down and then scru bbed the oven with Simple Green and some hot soapy water. It took over an hour to clean up the goo. Upon completion I ran the oven empty to see if the temperature controller was working okay. I suspected the oven got too hot and the dish simply blew. This was not the case however. The oven came up to temperature and cycled normally. We threw a disgusting frozen pizza in the oven and it cooked okay.
What is going on?
I Googled exploding Pyrex dishes and got ten million hits.
Exploding Pyrex is very common.
Here is the story.
A long, long time ago in a country we all know and love was a
company named Corning . They made Pryex dishes. The material they used is called borosilicate glass. This stuff is indestructible.
But like everything else, the Bottom Liners had a great idea: sell the technology to another company. The Chinese discovered that using soda lime glass was almost as good as b orosilicate glass and a lot cheaper. Today, Wal-Mart is the largest distributor of Pryex products. Corning not only sold the technology to a company called World Kitchen, they also sold the rights to the original Pyrex logo. Seamless. The consumer will never know.
Now it seems people are getting hurt using soda lime Pyrex. We
were lucky because the dish broke while the oven was closed and the damage was limited to the oven cavity. Others have been less fortunate . Some dishes explode when they are lifted from the heating rack in the oven with devastating results. Some people are heavily scarred. World Kitchen is in denial. They say that the dishes are another brand, not theirs. Contrary to their denials the victims usually have more than one of these dishes and the Pryex logo is clearly visible.
If you buy a Pryex dish beware. The label on the front says oven safe, freezer safe, microwave safe. The instructions on the back tell another story. You cannot move a soda lime Pyrex dish from the freezer to the oven and expect it to survive. The fine print goes on and on about what you are not allowed to do with the Pyrex dish. The fine print has prevented World Kitchen from being sued because they have warned the consumer that their Pyrex dishes are junk from the get go. And they are the same price as the original Corning dishes. What a bunch of losers we all are for buying20this crap.
What to do?
If you own borosilicate Pryex dishes no fear. They have to be more than 25 years old to be sure they are indeed Corning dishes. I am not sure if the old Pryex dishes have anything stamped in them that indicates they are made by Corning . You may continue to use the soda lime dishes for holding stuff. Just do not attempt to roast or microwave with them as the hazard is very clear.
The reason the soda lime dishes let go is that ov er time they
develop micro-cracks. Once a few micro-cracks are present and once some liquid finds its way into the cracks you have the bomb situation. The liquid is like shoving a crowbar in the dish and pulling it apart. Super heated liquids expand rapidly and it is the super heated liquids that force the soda lime glass to shatter into tens of thousands of shards.
Since Corning no longer makes Pyrex and Sylvia proudly holds a
large collection of the soda lime Pyrex, we decided that one bomb in the kitchen is enough. The Pyrex dishes will go bye-bye in this week’s trash. I do not know what we will use for cake and pie dishes going forward . If you have some suggestions we are listening.
I strongly urge you not to use the soda lime Pyrex for the oven, stovetop or microwave. The slightest invisible crack is all it takes to have a mess and a possible injury.
Nevarwinter
October 9th, 2009, 1:10 pm
snip
I never said that it doesn't happen, but all things heated with gas trapped with no way of escape can and will explode. I'm just saying that if your cookware is old, then it does need to be replaced, especially any glassware.
Rocks can be split by millions of years of water freezing and thawing. If it can happen to granite, it can happen to your Pyrex.
I was being semi-sarcastic with the "ur doing it wrong" thing. Should have clarified.
jeepers
October 9th, 2009, 1:33 pm
I haven't heard about the change in manufacturing of Pyrex, but I do know that when you cook with glassware, it can't be extremely cold, no matter what anyone says. The temperature change is just too dramatic.
I would never put a frozen piece of glassware into the over. Metal, yes, glass, no. And if it's been refrigerated, I let it warm up a bit. It doesn't have to come to full room temperature, but if you would call it 'cold' I wouldn't do it.
JMO
RickRhetoric
October 9th, 2009, 1:41 pm
Do not use harsh scouring pads such as Brillo or SOS pads or copper pads such as Chore Boy/Chore Girl to clean encrusted glass casserole dishes. These things scratch and etch tiny hairline cracks and fissures into the glass surface causing them to break and crack under high heat.
Let them soak for a couple of hours and clean them with sponge.
R.R. Jefe de la cocina (chef)
Vaard
October 9th, 2009, 1:47 pm
my wife had one shatter on her when she took it out of the oven and placed it on our glass top stove......
when we do dishes, we use the glass top stove as the place to dry the dishes, there was water still on the stove from the dishes and she placed the hot glass dish in the water.....
thermal shock and shatter......
thankfully, the stove top was not affected......
RTchoke
October 9th, 2009, 1:54 pm
I haven't heard about the change in manufacturing of Pyrex, but I do know that when you cook with glassware, it can't be extremely cold, no matter what anyone says. The temperature change is just too dramatic.
I would never put a frozen piece of glassware into the over. Metal, yes, glass, no. And if it's been refrigerated, I let it warm up a bit. It doesn't have to come to full room temperature, but if you would call it 'cold' I wouldn't do it.
JMO
Same here. I had one glass casserole dish shatter on the cook top about 3 minutes after I set it down. I was getting the rest of the things ready (setting out plates etc.) when I heard it just explode. What a mess to clean up. At least it wasn't in the oven when it happened. That really would have been a mess to clean.
wayoverthehill
October 9th, 2009, 5:53 pm
Very interesting article about how Pyrex "construction" has changed.
Thankfully, all my Pyrex is well past the 25 year old stage so I guess it's the indestructible stuff.
I never take anything from the freezer to the oven. Even if the mfr. says it's OK, I am skeptical.
I have had a Pyrex dish crack in the oven but it did not leak or break. Of course, I disposed of it but at least it didn't ruin the meal.
Good thread.
Another thing - silicone oven liners. Get one. Saved me from having to spend hours cleaning up spills. Worth every penny and they can be cut to fit the bottom of your oven.
Gengar
October 9th, 2009, 6:25 pm
Obama's doing it.
traditional_woman
October 9th, 2009, 7:22 pm
I only had this particular glassware for 3 weeks, and it wasn't cold or out of the freezer. Maybe i can sue and get some money. I promise to split it with all ye thread participants;)
RTchoke
October 12th, 2009, 12:50 pm
Very interesting article about how Pyrex "construction" has changed.
Thankfully, all my Pyrex is well past the 25 year old stage so I guess it's the indestructible stuff.
I never take anything from the freezer to the oven. Even if the mfr. says it's OK, I am skeptical.
I have had a Pyrex dish crack in the oven but it did not leak or break. Of course, I disposed of it but at least it didn't ruin the meal.
Good thread.
Another thing - silicone oven liners. Get one. Saved me from having to spend hours cleaning up spills. Worth every penny and they can be cut to fit the bottom of your oven.
Good idea. Question for you though..............Does having the liner in affect the oven temp at all? I know they always say don't put foil and such on the bottom of your oven because it can throw the temp off. My oven is off by a a few degrees anyway so I have to adjust my temp when I cook.