LCROSS Lunar Impact 7:31 a.m. EDT / 4:31 a.m. PDT Friday Oct. 9

[LouC]

LCROSS Lunar Impact 7:31 a.m. EDT / 4:31 a.m. PDT Friday Oct. 9

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk296/bigoldfartdude/lcross1.jpg

A live NASA TV Broadcast is planned for the LCROSS impacts starting at 6:15 a.m. EDT/3:15 a.m. PDT, Oct. 9, on NASA TV and www.nasa.gov/ntv

NASA LCROSS Mission Page Click LINK (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LCROSS/main/index.html)

For those so interested.

And no NASA is not dropping a MOP on the Moon despite what you may have heard Rush say.*

The objective of this page is to provide the casual backyard observer useful information for observing the LCROSS impact event without having to go to too many other sites. However, you can get a much more in depth idea of what more serious observers are doing and learn a lot by going to the Observations tab on the main LCROSS page :

http://lcross.arc.nasa.gov/observation.htm

, and following the trails from here: http://groups.google.com/group/lcross_observation

and here: http://groups.google.com/group/lcross_observation/web/lcross-faq

LCROSS Observation Information Page Click LINK (http://lcross.arc.nasa.gov/observation/amateur.htm)

For those afraid of linking to the NASA (Government) websites...

You know who you are. :)

Fox News “How To Watch The LCROSS Impact” Click LINK (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,562641,00.html)



Note: MOP = Massive Ordnance Penetrator

[MarkyS]

It will be absolutely fascinating to see the results - good or bad. I'm hoping for good, of course, but the effort alone bodes so well for the future.

M

[LouC]

It will be absolutely fascinating to see the results - good or bad. I'm hoping for good, of course, but the effort alone bodes so well for the future.

M

It is a win win in my opinion if they just get the impacts in the planned locations, even if it doesn't show the presence of water, but I am keeping my fingers LCROSSed (sorry) hoping for that water find.

The future sure could use water being found, self sustaining settlements, yeah!

[Sinister Rouge]

No War on The Moon!
No Blood for Water!

[LouC]

No War on The Moon!
No Blood for Water!

:rolleyes:










:))

[Clintville]

:rolleyes:










:))
You know he was joking.

[S.E.]

Thanks for sharing the links.

[Dem]

For those of us who are awake and want to watch it live:

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html

About 17 minutes to go.

[Stantz]

Note: MOP = Massive Ordnance Penetrator
be right back, calling my wife to inform her how i should be referred to from now on

[LouC]

be right back, calling my wife to inform her how i should be referred to from now on

:))

[LouC]

Sadly there were no visible plumes from the impacts...

That hurts... :(

[RickRhetoric]

The Obama-inspired, unprovoked rocket attack on the Man in the Moon may have put his eye out. Jackie and other reputable cosmetologists at the beauty salon are saying the shattering impact may have disturbed and rearranged the molecular structure of the surface of the moon to the extent that it will no reflect the sun's rays, thus preventing it from being visible to earthlings at night. This unintended phenomena would indeed be sad, particularly with the Halloween season approaching.

Nevertheless, a good thing about it, would be that we would no have a "full moon" which triggers crime waves, wolf-men, silly romantic myths and births.

[James Juno]

Sadly there were no visible plumes from the impacts...

That hurts... :(

That part was iffy anyway. I'm more anxious to see the results of the tests.

[StoneScratcher]

The Obama-inspired, unprovoked rocket attack on the Man in the Moon may have put his eye out. Jackie and other reputable cosmetologists at the beauty salon are saying the shattering impact may have disturbed and rearranged the molecular structure of the surface of the moon to the extent that it will no reflect the sun's rays, thus preventing it from being visible to earthlings at night. This unintended phenomena would indeed be sad, particularly with the Halloween season approaching.

Nevertheless, a good thing about it, would be that we would no have a "full moon" which triggers crime waves, wolf-men, silly romantic myths and births.

But what about the tides and that necessary bulge we need to keep our seasons straight. Oh yeah, Gore covered it...it's because we breathe.

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

My daughter was telling me last night as we walked the dog that 'we' were going to 'bomb' the Moon this week. I slowly turned and looked at her and asked..where exactly did you hear that little tid bit? She replied..."oh, from my biology teacher". Granted, our youngest is in her second year at college...and is told all types of interesting information. I asked if her professor had explained why we were bombing the moon...she simply replied...'they are looking for water on the moon'. I must have looked a bit stunned...as she continued on the effects of doing such a research test would cause havoc on our ecological and environmental impacts of our earth.

I thought perhaps, as has happened in previous little tid bits of information that has been forth coming from this professor, that it was a hyped piece of information and double backed with a good dousing of scare tactic greenie environmentalism. (Remember, this is the same professor that went off how our Polar Bears are dying due to not enough ice production and the switching of the poles....:rolleyes:)

So, to my great surprise, I come here this morning and see Lou's thread. My face dropped! It's true? We are directly impacting the moon to check for water? Really? Can someone explain to me in simply terms why? What do we gain? What is the impact really going to be upon our planet?

Thank you very much in advance....
and yes Lou..I'll be reading those links asap

Bombing the moon...wow...who knew?

~Mysty

[James Juno]

By the way, this so-called "moon bombing" (moron journalists and their stupid choice of words) is not unprecedented:

http://www.physorg.com/news174243238.html

Apollo 14's booster impact 38 years ago was MUCH more energetic and guess what? The moon is still up there.

[LouC]

...So, to my great surprise, I come here this morning and see Lou's thread. My face dropped! It's true? We are directly impacting the moon to check for water? Really? Can someone explain to me in simply terms why? What do we gain? What is the impact really going to be upon our planet?

Thank you very much in advance....
and yes Lou..I'll be reading those links asap

Bombing the moon...wow...who knew?

~Mysty

I want to thank you for your imparting here the conversation you had with your daughter.

But I am a little hurt.

Yes, we are again directly impacting the Moon.

We have deliberately impacted the Moon before.

We are hoping to discover water ice in the permanently shadowed craters at the Moon's south Pole.

Water Ice discovery would be worth far more than its weight in gold for establishing permanent bases on the Moon.

Estimates vary for transporting water to the Moon from $10,000 to $50,000 a pound.

Water would be essential for peopled habitats, manufacturing processes, and for rocket or other vehicle fuel.

The impact upon our planet of the LCROSS impacts?

Physically it would be "0".

Scientifically, if the speculation is proven, the impact would be astronomical. (sorry)

Economically it would be immeasurable cost savings for our future space exploration and exploitations programs.

Now I am going into detail why I was a little hurt by your post.

(Original mention by Cygnus X-1 in GI regarding the LCROSS Mission, he was first.)
Cygnus X-1
June 5th, 2009, 7:34 pm
http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=55653841&postcount=974

(From a different thread in GI I post information about LCROSS)
LouC
June 24th, 2009, 6:13 pm
http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=56715671&postcount=1

http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=56764341&postcount=22

(The following post about the LCROSS mission is from my LRO Thread here in GI that I started back on July 6th, 2009)
LouC
July 19th, 2009, 8:57 am
Overview of LCROSS (Which had been the OP in a separate I asked to be merged with the LRO thread it is now a part of.)
http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=57983751&postcount=93

All of these mentions of LCROSS going back to June 5th and you didn't know anything about it until your daughter mentioned it....

Why do I take the time... :((

(The following is from a recent thread in WP, it answers some questions regarding, puts into perspective, impacting the Moon)
LouC
October 8th, 2009, 2:24 pm
http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=62230341&postcount=141

"Every day, more than a metric ton of meteoroids hits the Moon," says Bill Cooke of the Marshall Space Flight Center's Meteoroid Environment Office. They literally fall out of the sky, in all shapes and sizes, from specks of comet dust to full-blown asteroids, traveling up to a hundred thousand mph. And when they hit, they do not disintegrate harmlessly in the atmosphere as most would on Earth. On the airless Moon, meteoroids hit the ground.

Clues to how often and how hard the Moon is hit lie in data from four seismometers placed on the Moon by the Apollo 12, 14, 15, and 16 missions during 1969-72. They operated until NASA turned them off in 1977. For years, the seismometers recorded all manner of tremors and jolts, including almost 3000 moonquakes, 1700 meteoroid strikes, and 9 spacecraft deliberately crashed into the Moon. All these data were transmitted to Earth for analysis.

Critical to the analysis are nine man-made impacts. "NASA deliberately crashed some spacecraft into the Moon while the seismometers were operating," he explains. "They were the empty ascent stages of four lunar modules (Apollo 12, 14, 15 and 17) and the SIV-B stages of five Saturn rockets (Apollo 13, 14, 15, 16 and 17)." Their seismic waveforms tell researchers what an impact should look like.

Also, in 1972, a 1,100 kg (2,400 lb) asteroid hit the Moon just north of Mare Nubium, the Sea of Clouds. It was a major impact recorded at all four seismic stations. "When we look at the seismic waveform of that asteroid," says Cooke, "we see that it has the same characteristics as the man-made impacts—a good sign that we know what we’re doing."

Click LINK (http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/28apr_skyisfalling.htm)

;)

[Sinister Rouge]

My daughter was telling me last night as we walked the dog that 'we' were going to 'bomb' the Moon this week. I slowly turned and looked at her and asked..where exactly did you hear that little tid bit? She replied..."oh, from my biology teacher". Granted, our youngest is in her second year at college...and is told all types of interesting information. I asked if her professor had explained why we were bombing the moon...she simply replied...'they are looking for water on the moon'. I must have looked a bit stunned...as she continued on the effects of doing such a research test would cause havoc on our ecological and environmental impacts of our earth.

I thought perhaps, as has happened in previous little tid bits of information that has been forth coming from this professor, that it was a hyped piece of information and double backed with a good dousing of scare tactic greenie environmentalism. (Remember, this is the same professor that went off how our Polar Bears are dying due to not enough ice production and the switching of the poles....:rolleyes:)

So, to my great surprise, I come here this morning and see Lou's thread. My face dropped! It's true? We are directly impacting the moon to check for water? Really? Can someone explain to me in simply terms why? What do we gain? What is the impact really going to be upon our planet?

Thank you very much in advance....
and yes Lou..I'll be reading those links asap

Bombing the moon...wow...who knew?

~Mysty



Oh Noes! They're blowing up the moon!!!1!!!!one!!!

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

I want to thank you for your imparting here the conversation you had with your daughter.

But I am a little hurt.

Yes, we are again directly impacting the Moon.

We have deliberately impacted the Moon before.

We are hoping to discover water ice in the permanently shadowed craters at the Moon's south Pole.

Water Ice discovery would be worth far more than its weight in gold for establishing permanent bases on the Moon.

Estimates vary for transporting water to the Moon from $10,000 to $50,000 a pound.

Water would be essential for peopled habitats, manufacturing processes, and for rocket or other vehicle fuel.

The impact upon our planet of the LCROSS impacts?

Physically it would be "0".

Scientifically, if the speculation is proven, the impact would be astronomical. (sorry)

Economically it would be immeasurable cost savings for our future space exploration and exploitations programs.

Now I am going into detail why I was a little hurt by your post.

(Original mention by Cygnus X-1 in GI regarding the LCROSS Mission, he was first.)
Cygnus X-1
June 5th, 2009, 7:34 pm
http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=55653841&postcount=974

(From a different thread in GI I post information about LCROSS)
LouC
June 24th, 2009, 6:13 pm
http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=56715671&postcount=1

http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=56764341&postcount=22

(The following post about the LCROSS mission is from my LRO Thread here in GI that I started back on July 6th, 2009)
LouC
July 19th, 2009, 8:57 am
Overview of LCROSS (Which had been the OP in a separate I asked to be merged with the LRO thread it is now a part of.)
http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=57983751&postcount=93

All of these mentions of LCROSS going back to June 5th and you didn't know anything about it until your daughter mentioned it....

Why do I take the time... :((

(The following is from a recent thread in WP, it answers some questions regarding, puts into perspective, impacting the Moon)
LouC
October 8th, 2009, 2:24 pm
http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=62230341&postcount=141



;)

Oh Lou! Honey.....oh man...I'm so sorry...I did the girl thing..the blond thing..and didn't even think of searching previous threads on the topic. I lazily simply posted without looking first...stupid on my part..should know better by now. :redface: Honestly, I never really have learned how to use the stupid function search thingy anyway....:cry:

Please accept my most sincere apology for being...well, for being LAZY! No other excuse can be given other then to say I didn't think? Please don't be offended. I usually find great reading pleasure in your threads...your topics are always great. I just didn't really get into this one...Megan coming home and let fall from her lips we were 'again' (yes I know we've done it before) bombing the moon. It's as odd and unreal as Obama receiving the Noble. Like it's April Fools Day and no one told me it was April Fools day. Know what I mean?

Ok..off to do some heavy reading for the links you so graciously provided...

Again...I'm sooooo sorry.....*bat bat bat of big blue eyes* forgive me?

~Mysty

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

Oh Noes! They're blowing up the moon!!!1!!!!one!!!

Go ahead...laugh at me...I deserve it. :redface: Just hit me odd this morning. When am I gonna learn not to post before I've had a full cup of coffee? :rolleyes: lol

~Mysty

[LouC]

...Again...I'm sooooo sorry.....*bat bat bat of big blue eyes* forgive me?

~Mysty

You were forgiven at "Oh Lou"... ;)

*bat bat bat of big blue eyes*

Icing... :dance:

Hope you enjoy the stuff, perhaps you can find something your daughter can to take to school to counter her teacher?

[Sinister Rouge]

Go ahead...laugh at me...I deserve it. :redface: Just hit me odd this morning. When am I gonna learn not to post before I've had a full cup of coffee? :rolleyes: lol

~Mysty


No hard feelings. But it was a pretty funny post.

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

You were forgiven at "Oh Lou"... ;)

*bat bat bat of big blue eyes*

Icing... :dance:

Hope you enjoy the stuff, perhaps you can find something your daughter can to take to school to counter her teacher?

My thoughts exactly! She's with me now reading over the links you provided. Gotta love truth and facts...kills the insanity every time! ;)

Oh...and um..those big blue eye's have gotten me outta more trouble then I can possible recount...heheheheh...:dance:

~Mysty

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

No hard feelings. But it was a pretty funny post.

I troll in the morning. No kidding..not pretty without at least a cup of hot java down my throat before even dealing with the world. Soooo not a morning person....:shhh: Why I think I can actually think clearly much less type and try to posts to topics as heady as Nasa missions is really just beyond me. :redface:

But hey..I'm too serious most of the time on here...so suffice it to say, I'm letting my blond show..heheheeh :dance: See...I'm human....sometimes...lmao

~Mysty

[Pauper66]

But I am a little hurt.


Well, if it's any consolation, this is the first place I came to to get news on the subject.

[LouC]

Well, if it's any consolation, this is the first place I came to to get news on the subject.

Thanks! :dance:

[LouC]

MEDIA ADVISORY : 09-131AR


NASA Spacecraft Impacts Lunar Crater in Search for Water Ice


MOFFETT FIELD, Calif. -- NASA's Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite, or LCROSS, created twin impacts on the moon's surface early Friday in a search for water ice. Scientists will analyze data from the spacecraft's instruments to assess whether water ice is present.

The satellite traveled 5.6 million miles during an historic 113-day mission that ended in the Cabeus crater, a permanently shadowed region near the moon's south pole. The spacecraft was launched June 18 as a companion mission to the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter from NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida.

"The LCROSS science instruments worked exceedingly well and returned a wealth of data that will greatly improve our understanding of our closest celestial neighbor," said Anthony Colaprete, LCROSS principal investigator and project scientist at NASA's Ames Research Center in Moffett Field, Calif. "The team is excited to dive into data."

In preparation for impact, LCROSS and its spent Centaur upper stage rocket separated about 54,000 miles above the surface of the moon on Thursday at approximately 6:50 p.m. PDT.

Moving at a speed of more than 1.5 miles per second, the Centaur hit the lunar surface shortly after 4:31 a.m. Oct. 9, creating an impact that instruments aboard LCROSS observed for approximately four minutes. LCROSS then impacted the surface at approximately 4:36 a.m.

"This is a great day for science and exploration," said Doug Cooke, associate administrator for the Exploration Systems Mission Directorate at NASA Headquarters in Washington. "The LCROSS data should prove to be an impressive addition to the tremendous leaps in knowledge about the moon that have been achieved in recent weeks. I want to congratulate the LCROSS team for their tremendous achievement in development of this low cost spacecraft and for their perseverance through a number of difficult technical and operational challenges."‪

Other observatories reported capturing both impacts. The data will be shared with the LCROSS science team for analysis. The LCROSS team expects it to take several weeks of analysis before it can make a definitive assessment of the presence or absence of water ice. Click LINK (http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/news/releases/2009/09-131AR.html)

Latest news.

[S.E.]

Does anyone know when are we going to see the Hubble pics of the impact?

[Sinister Rouge]

So was this why Obama won the Nobel Prize?
**** you moon!

[LouC]

Does anyone know when are we going to see the Hubble pics of the impact?

Hubble Press Release Regarding LCROSS Click LINK (http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/2009/26/full/)

They talk about the event but they did not say when any images would be released.

[ThrowCop]

be right back, calling my wife to inform her how i should be referred to from now on:))

I do hope to see some actual footage. It was a lot of buildup for those like me who are very interested but I was late for work for nothing this morning. :neutral:

[S.E.]

Hubble Press Release Regarding LCROSS Click LINK (http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/2009/26/full/)

They talk about the event but they did not say when any images would be released.

Thanks.

[LouC]

Thanks.

You are welcome, wish I could have supplied a better answer.

[Fire Watch]

Does anyone know when are we going to see the Hubble pics of the impact?
You wont.

It didnt happen. It was all staged in the Utah desert.

[notluzn]

We never even made it into space yet. Fake

[hatman]

You wont.

It didnt happen. It was all staged in the Utah desert.

Come on, can't Hubble see Utah?

[LouC]

Come on, can't Hubble see Utah?

:)) Brilliant!