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Middy
October 8th, 2009, 10:55 am
Sunstein: Americans too racist for socialism
Defends communism, welfare state but says 'white majority' oppose programs aiding blacks, Hispanics

Posted: October 07, 2009
By Aaron Klein
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

JERUSALEM – The U.S. should move in the direction of socialism but the country's "white majority" opposes welfare since such programs largely would benefit minorities, especially blacks and Hispanics, argued President Obama's newly confirmed regulatory czar, Cass Sunstein.

"The absence of a European-style social welfare state is certainly connected with the widespread perception among the white majority that the relevant programs would disproportionately benefit African Americans (and more recently Hispanics)," wrote Sunstein.

The Obama czar's controversial comments were made in his 2004 book "The Second Bill of Rights," which was obtained and reviewed by WND. In the book, Sunstein openly argues for bringing socialism to the U.S. and even lends support to communism.

Cont'd: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=112243

Obama had to try hard to recruit such an army of radical weirdos to his army of czars, although it shouldn't be suprising, considering the kind of people with whom he was associated all of his life.

DelawareGuy
October 8th, 2009, 10:58 am
Sunstein: Americans too racist for socialism
Defends communism, welfare state but says 'white majority' oppose programs aiding blacks, Hispanics

Posted: October 07, 2009
By Aaron Klein
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

JERUSALEM – The U.S. should move in the direction of socialism but the country's "white majority" opposes welfare since such programs largely would benefit minorities, especially blacks and Hispanics, argued President Obama's newly confirmed regulatory czar, Cass Sunstein.

"The absence of a European-style social welfare state is certainly connected with the widespread perception among the white majority that the relevant programs would disproportionately benefit African Americans (and more recently Hispanics)," wrote Sunstein.

The Obama czar's controversial comments were made in his 2004 book "The Second Bill of Rights," which was obtained and reviewed by WND. In the book, Sunstein openly argues for bringing socialism to the U.S. and even lends support to communism.

Cont'd: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=112243

Obama had to try hard to recruit such an army of radical weirdos to his army of czars, although it shouldn't be suprising, considering the kind of people with whom he was associated all of his life.


so a welfare state is a good thing?


but Obama isnt a socialist :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Camp
October 8th, 2009, 10:58 am
Oppose Welfare?

Welfare is destroying the middle class and most remain willing accomplices.

Another lie in an infinite series.

Bluenose177
October 8th, 2009, 11:03 am
shows how much that dumb **** knows....Socialism failed in Europe. Germany and France have already moved back to conservative governments and it looks like the UK will have a Conservative government come May next year..

all had socialist leaders/governments ALL FAILED AND WERE VOTED OUT/CHANGED TACT


SOCIALISM DOESN'T WORK..................why can't Chairman Maobama and his Marxist friends understand that?

ShinGouki
October 8th, 2009, 11:05 am
So if you oppose socialism to "help" blacks and Latinos, you're a racist?

What about me, I'm half black half white. Does that make me half racist because I oppose socialism?

super cool ski instructor
October 8th, 2009, 11:07 am
Where is Obama finding these baffoons?

MadazzVeteran
October 8th, 2009, 11:09 am
Where is Obama finding these baffoons?

Washington Day Labor Bureau

misterblue
October 8th, 2009, 11:10 am
So if you oppose socialism to "help" blacks and Latinos, you're a racist?

What about me, I'm half black half white. Does that make me half racist because I oppose socialism?

Yes, it must.

croupier101
October 8th, 2009, 11:11 am
I think he was referring more to conservatives rather then all Americans in his discussion regarding welfare.

Mojotiger
October 8th, 2009, 11:12 am
I think he was referring more to conservatives rather then all Americans in his discussion regarding welfare.

So opposing gov't welfare is racist?

misterblue
October 8th, 2009, 11:13 am
Sunstein: Americans too racist for socialism
Defends communism, welfare state but says 'white majority' oppose programs aiding blacks, Hispanics

Posted: October 07, 2009
By Aaron Klein
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

JERUSALEM – The U.S. should move in the direction of socialism but the country's "white majority" opposes welfare since such programs largely would benefit minorities, especially blacks and Hispanics, argued President Obama's newly confirmed regulatory czar, Cass Sunstein.

"The absence of a European-style social welfare state is certainly connected with the widespread perception among the white majority that the relevant programs would disproportionately benefit African Americans (and more recently Hispanics)," wrote Sunstein.

The Obama czar's controversial comments were made in his 2004 book "The Second Bill of Rights," which was obtained and reviewed by WND. In the book, Sunstein openly argues for bringing socialism to the U.S. and even lends support to communism.

Cont'd: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=112243

Obama had to try hard to recruit such an army of radical weirdos to his army of czars, although it shouldn't be suprising, considering the kind of people with whom he was associated all of his life.

Its amazing to me how the liberals continually believe they can make something work that has been proven time and time agin not to work. Drive me nuts. But then its a good thing I can't understand Insanity.

croupier101
October 8th, 2009, 11:18 am
So opposing gov't welfare is racist?

That isn't what Sustein said. He said a majority oppose welfare because they are under the wrong impression that minorities garner the largest benefit from welfare and they are under a false impression about the numbers of minorities on welfare.

Both those statements are very true. Conservatives say that all the time and make the mistake of believe minorities support liberals because so many are on welfare when in truth less then 6% of minorities are on welfare.

Hell, there are only 2,000,000 out of 300,000,000+ that are on welfare or less then 1%. Conservatives complain about a program that is actually very very small, but they don't know the facts and just use stereotypes.

ModerateVoice
October 8th, 2009, 11:18 am
I always take a guy seriously when he's also stated that he thinks that animals should have the right to sue human beings. :rolleyes:

harumph
October 8th, 2009, 11:22 am
I think he was referring more to conservatives rather then all Americans in his discussion regarding welfare.
So, let me get this straight. The white majority are conservatives? Therefore, conservatives are racists by virtue of their skin color. Some beliefs should never change, 'cause *poof*, no more handouts.

LouC
October 8th, 2009, 11:23 am
Where is Obama finding these baffoons?

At America's most prestigious universities.

misterblue
October 8th, 2009, 11:24 am
That isn't what Sustein said. He said a majority oppose welfare because they are under the wrong impression that minorities garner the largest benefit from welfare and they are under a false impression about the numbers of minorities on welfare.

Both those statements are very true. Conservatives say that all the time and make the mistake of believe minorities support liberals because so many are on welfare when in truth less then 6% of minorities are on welfare.

Hell, there are only 2,000,000 out of 300,000,000+ that are on welfare or less then 1%. Conservatives complain about a program that is actually very very small, but they don't know the facts and just use stereotypes.

I don't think most people regadless of party are against welfare. The problem is people who do nothing but sit on it. I've seen plenty of that. Familys that have lived that way for years. And the children end up the same way. In our city we have people moving here for the welfare. There is'nt alot of job opportunity in this area but we have alot of people moving in. Another benifit of this is most of the serious crime is committed buy them also. This is what we are against.

croupier101
October 8th, 2009, 11:24 am
So, let me get this straight. The white majority are conservatives?
According to Rasmussen about 56% of whites label themselves conservative. So yes, that is correct.

Therefore, conservatives are racists by virtue of their skin color.
Not racists necessarily, but most are uninformed regarding welfare statistics.

DelawareGuy
October 8th, 2009, 11:27 am
I always take a guy seriously when he's also stated that he thinks that animals should have the right to sue human beings. :rolleyes:


yeah i think us humans are "racist" because we havent set up a welfare program for cows and horses etc

croupier101
October 8th, 2009, 11:30 am
I don't think most people regadless of party are against welfare.
I think that is very accurate.

The problem is people who do nothing but sit on it.
Lots of people cheat the system. Some rich people cheat on their taxes, some poor people steal money from social programs.

I've seen plenty of that.
Me too, but I think it is fair to argue that conservatives for some reason focus all their energy on the small percentage of welfare recipients that take advantage of the system. And I think it is fair to argue that most conservatives have an aggressive and sometimes contemptful attitude towards people that don't have alot of money.

Familys that have lived that way for years. And the children end up the same way. In our city we have people moving here for the welfare. There is'nt alot of job opportunity in this area but we have alot of people moving in. Another benifit of this is most of the serious crime is committed buy them also. This is what we are against.

If conservatives spent 1% of the amount of energy they spend bashing the small percent of people that cheat on welfare for a few hundred bucks on all the rich people who cheat the government out of billions in taxes, I think you would see a net profit. If it truly just about money for conservatives, they are focusing on the wrong crooks.

Canadian Jane
October 8th, 2009, 11:31 am
I think he was referring more to conservatives rather then all Americans in his discussion regarding welfare.



So the logical conclusion from your statement is that Sunstein thinks it's OK to oppose welfare (or anything for that matter) if you are a liberal, but if you are a conservative - then you automatically must be racist.

Doesn't that tell you right there that something in the synapses aren't working right?

REALLY flawed logic happening there - and eventually your enemies will capitalize on your government's weakness.

In this case, your government's weakness is the irrational hatred of conservatives that permeates from the current administration.

Sadly, this comes from Republican politicians - as well as Democrats.

Here's the real truth that many people seem to run away from: YOU CAN'T GET SOMETHING FOR NOTHING.

THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A FREE RIDE.

If America continues to vote in politicians who lie to them and thell them that they will come out further ahead if they let the government take over - then the quagmire you currently find yourself in will only continue to get worse. Government HASN'T delivered in that regard yet - what makes anyone think that will change?!

And - if the majority of your population becomes freeloaders - then you are done like dinner.

Unlike good, hardworking Americans, freeloaders have NOTHING to lose by voting for the big lie.

(And as a disclaimer - I would point out that while there are legitimate, compassionate grounds for some people in society being supported on welfare or other forms of social assistance - the system as it currently stands is SATURATED with exploitation and corruption. It needs a major overhaul - and those who are CAPABLE of being productive citizens SHOULD BE. Welfare should not be COMFORTABLE - it should cover BASIC needs for survival. Otherwise there is no incentive for many to get themselves out of that situation.)

harumph
October 8th, 2009, 11:36 am
According to Rasmussen about 56% of whites label themselves conservative. So yes, that is correct.


Not racists necessarily, but most are uninformed regarding welfare statistics.
One day, even you may stop using skin color as an excuse. That may be an epiphany, even to you.

croupier101
October 8th, 2009, 11:38 am
So the logical conclusion from your statement is that Sunstein thinks it's OK to oppose welfare (or anything for that matter) if you are a liberal, but if you are a conservative - then you automatically must be racist.

No, you have also misread. He said most conservatives oppose welfare because they are under the false impression that welfare recipients are mostly minorities, when they are not.


Doesn't that tell you right there that something in the synapses aren't working right?

You simply misread his statement, or attempted to change it to argue something else. I am not sure which.

REALLY flawed logic happening there - and eventually your enemies will capitalize on your government's weakness.

In this case, your government's weakness is the irrational hatred of conservatives that permeates from the current administration.

Sadly, this comes from Republican politicians - as well as Democrats.

Here's the real truth that many people seem to run away from: YOU CAN'T GET SOMETHING FOR NOTHING.

THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A FREE RIDE.

If America continues to vote in politicians who lie to them and thell them that they will come out further ahead if they let the government take over - then the quagmire you currently find yourself in will only continue to get worse. Government HASN'T delivered in that regard yet - what makes anyone think that will change?!

And - if the majority of your population becomes freeloaders - then you are done like dinner.

Unlike good, hardworking Americans, freeloaders have NOTHING to lose by voting for the big lie.

(And as a disclaimer - I would point out that while there are legitimate, compassionate grounds for some people in society being supported on welfare or other forms of social assistance - the system as it currently stands is SATURATED with exploitation and corruption. It needs a major overhaul - and those who are CAPABLE of being productive citizens SHOULD BE. Welfare should not be COMFORTABLE - it should cover BASIC needs for survival. Otherwise there is no incentive for many to get themselves out of that situation.)
The rest of your post was based on the false statement you made int eh first sentence, so I have no further argument.

croupier101
October 8th, 2009, 11:39 am
One day, even you may stop using skin color as an excuse. That may be an epiphany, even to you.
I never use race as an excuse, I leave that to conservatives like yourself who like to play the victim and use race as a device to divide Americans up. It is such a cowardly and sad exercise.

harumph
October 8th, 2009, 11:42 am
I never use race as an excuse, I leave that to conservatives like yourself who like to play the victim and use race as a device to divide Americans up. It is such a cowardly and sad exercise.
Whu? What? I just learned from you that conservatives are the White Majority.
You tickle me, sometimes.

My previous statement stands.

croupier101
October 8th, 2009, 11:44 am
Whu? What? I just learned from you that conservatives are the White Majority.
You don't read statistics or know how to do math?

ModerateVoice
October 8th, 2009, 11:48 am
I never use race as an excuse, I leave that to conservatives like yourself who like to play the victim and use race as a device to divide Americans up. It is such a cowardly and sad exercise.

Oh please! :rolleyes:

See It Clearly
October 8th, 2009, 11:48 am
I never use race as an excuse, I leave that to conservatives like yourself who like to play the victim and use race as a device to divide Americans up. It is such a cowardly and sad exercise.
What a crock of ****. The sad part about this crock of **** is that you know it is a crock of **** and you still dish it out.

Nevarwinter
October 8th, 2009, 11:48 am
How many more times can we be called racists? Seriously...

harumph
October 8th, 2009, 11:50 am
You don't read statistics or know how to do math?
I have no need (or desire) to search out racial statistics. My math is fine, thank you.*


* Well, good enough for that purpose. Trig, on the other hand...

spinach
October 8th, 2009, 11:52 am
Where is Obama finding these baffoons?

they are his friends and associates, and advisors.
they are run of the mill typical liberals: idiots, socialists, thugs, goons, perverts, etc.

Canadian Jane
October 8th, 2009, 11:53 am
No, you have also misread. He said most conservatives oppose welfare because they are under the false impression that welfare recipients are mostly minorities, when they are not.


You simply misread his statement, or attempted to change it to argue something else. I am not sure which.

The rest of your post was based on the false statement you made int eh first sentence, so I have no further argument.


In my country welfare recipients are CLEARLY not minorities - and yet conservatives in Canada oppose welfare.

How do you explain that?

It's a ridiculous statement by Sunstein - and clearly it was deliberately used to inflame racial senstivities in your country.

And nothing good will come from it in the end - in my opinion.

Scot
October 8th, 2009, 11:58 am
I never use race as an excuse, I leave that to conservatives like yourself who like to play the victim and use race as a device to divide Americans up. It is such a cowardly and sad exercise.
Now, if I said MOST Blacks do use race as an excuse, would you come to my defense as you have in this thread???

SisterMary
October 8th, 2009, 12:00 pm
By Croup: "That isn't what Sustein said. He said a majority oppose welfare because they are under the wrong impression that minorities garner the largest benefit from welfare and they are under a false impression about the numbers of minorities on welfare."


Check out www.huppi.com

Statistics can be read however you want them to read.

Myth: People on welfare are usually black, teenage mothers who stay on ten years at a time.

Fact: Most welfare recipients are non-black, adult and on welfare less than two years at a time.

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/2clorbar.JPG

Summary

According to the statistics, whites form the largest racial group on welfare; half of all welfare recipients leave in the first two years; and teenagers form less than 8 percent of all welfare mothers.

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/2clorbar.JPG

Argument

Here are the statistics on welfare recipients:
Race
--------------
White 38.8%
Black 37.2
Hispanic 17.8
Asian 2.8
Other 3.4


Notes on race

Blacks comprise only 12 percent of the nation, but, according to the above figures, they comprise 37 percent of the welfare rolls. This should not be surprising; in 1994, blacks had a poverty rate of 33 percent. We should not, of course, think it unusual to find poor people on welfare. Consequently, discussions of race and welfare must turn on different issues.

The most prevalent question is why there are so many blacks in poverty. Liberals argue that it is the result of continuing racism and discrimination, especially at hiring time. Conservatives have argued a variety of other causes: moral shortcomings, poor work ethic, even intellectual inferiority. Another important question is whether welfare causes poverty.

LindaLR
October 8th, 2009, 12:00 pm
THis is great news, does it mean that now they will abandon the socialist agenda, and wait out the racists? lol

And to CROUP regarding post 19...


If conservatives spent 1% of the amount of energy they spend bashing the small percent of people that cheat on welfare for a few hundred bucks on all the rich people who cheat the government out of billions in taxes, I think you would see a net profit. If it truly just about money for conservatives, they are focusing on the wrong crooks.

Lets pick this apart, only a SMALL percent of people cheat on wefare... WHILE "All the RICH people who cheat the government our of BILLIONS" we would see a net profit.. LMAO, are you kidding me, that is not slanted...
SO welfare cheats who only want hundreds... good folks for whom we just need to get the extra Billions out of the rich folks, so they can have those extra hundreds with out the awful guilt of having to cheat for it..
MY GOD.. dont even say im puttin words in,, im just Exrapolating MEANING, because words.. Just Words, and all... they mean stuff.
You expose yourself often when defending lyin cheatin stealin when its for the people you want to get away with it.. in the same breath, excoriating those whom you think are bad.. you know... folks who are sucessful and need to be PENALIZED for that success.

Got it!!! welfare cheats, A-OK
Tax cheats NOT SO MUCH..

oops.. how about tim, charlie, and half o f the other lyincheatinsteain congress??? how about charlie? u think he should pay up? lol

LindaLR
October 8th, 2009, 12:03 pm
In my country welfare recipients are CLEARLY not minorities - and yet conservatives in Canada oppose welfare.

How do you explain that?

It's a ridiculous statement by Sunstein - and clearly it was deliberately used to inflame racial senstivities in your country.

And nothing good will come from it in the end - in my opinion.
Sunstein and croup have really stepped in this one stinkin pile.. .LOL and the backpeddalling will begin.............3 2 1..

LindaLR
October 8th, 2009, 12:11 pm
By Croup: "That isn't what Sustein said. He said a majority oppose welfare because they are under the wrong impression that minorities garner the largest benefit from welfare and they are under a false impression about the numbers of minorities on welfare."


Check out www.huppi.com (http://www.huppi.com)

Statistics can be read however you want them to read.

Myth: People on welfare are usually black, teenage mothers who stay on ten years at a time.

Fact: Most welfare recipients are non-black, adult and on welfare less than two years at a time.

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/2clorbar.JPG

Summary

According to the statistics, whites form the largest racial group on welfare; half of all welfare recipients leave in the first two years; and teenagers form less than 8 percent of all welfare mothers.

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/2clorbar.JPG

Argument

Here are the statistics on welfare recipients:
Race
--------------
White 38.8%
Black 37.2
Hispanic 17.8
Asian 2.8
Other 3.4


Notes on race

Blacks comprise only 12 percent of the nation, but, according to the above figures, they comprise 37 percent of the welfare rolls. This should not be surprising; in 1994, blacks had a poverty rate of 33 percent. We should not, of course, think it unusual to find poor people on welfare. Consequently, discussions of race and welfare must turn on different issues.

The most prevalent question is why there are so many blacks in poverty. Liberals argue that it is the result of continuing racism and discrimination, especially at hiring time. Conservatives have argued a variety of other causes: moral shortcomings, poor work ethic, even intellectual inferiority. Another important question is whether welfare causes poverty.

Statistics are a bitch!
I wonder how many welfare moms are teaching their children to stay in school, and go on to graduate school, learn a trade they can earn a living with, stay off drugs, stay out of gangs, or how to fill out welfare forms?? which is it.

Welfare and the culture of it have harmed our fellow citizens more than any thing ever since time began. Its a soul sucker. No where in any statistic wil you find that it has solved any thing. It truely breaks my heart to know that people in our government know this is a control issue, and its what they sell as something good.. and it is not.
It is a soul steal-er.. it does NO ONE any good.. oh, it may put some food on the table, but its worse than 'blood money'. It steals drive, ambition and acheivement from those dependent. It doesnt matter what the skin color of the one dependent.. welfare steals your soul, and that theft is not discriminatory about skin color.

Reev
October 8th, 2009, 12:18 pm
I am gonna lose my mind if I hear the word racist again. I hate socialism, I hate welfare, and I think ANYONE who wants it is insane.

JudasGoat
October 8th, 2009, 12:52 pm
Where is Obama finding these baffoons?

birds of a feather...

...sit on the pole and crap on our flag together. :flag:

Darkblade
October 8th, 2009, 12:53 pm
is "parasite" a race?

croupier101
October 8th, 2009, 12:59 pm
Now, if I said MOST Blacks do use race as an excuse, would you come to my defense as you have in this thread???

Nope. I'd call you yet another conservative that represents exactly who Sustein is talking about in his book.

croupier101
October 8th, 2009, 1:04 pm
By Croup: "That isn't what Sustein said. He said a majority oppose welfare because they are under the wrong impression that minorities garner the largest benefit from welfare and they are under a false impression about the numbers of minorities on welfare."


Check out www.huppi.com

Statistics can be read however you want them to read.

Myth: People on welfare are usually black, teenage mothers who stay on ten years at a time.

Fact: Most welfare recipients are non-black, adult and on welfare less than two years at a time.

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/2clorbar.JPG

Summary

According to the statistics, whites form the largest racial group on welfare; half of all welfare recipients leave in the first two years; and teenagers form less than 8 percent of all welfare mothers.

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/2clorbar.JPG

Argument

Here are the statistics on welfare recipients:
Race
--------------
White 38.8%
Black 37.2
Hispanic 17.8
Asian 2.8
Other 3.4


Notes on race

Blacks comprise only 12 percent of the nation, but, according to the above figures, they comprise 37 percent of the welfare rolls. This should not be surprising; in 1994, blacks had a poverty rate of 33 percent. We should not, of course, think it unusual to find poor people on welfare. Consequently, discussions of race and welfare must turn on different issues.

The most prevalent question is why there are so many blacks in poverty. Liberals argue that it is the result of continuing racism and discrimination, especially at hiring time. Conservatives have argued a variety of other causes: moral shortcomings, poor work ethic, even intellectual inferiority. Another important question is whether welfare causes poverty.

Your link http://www.huppi.com doesn't bring up what you posted. Can you post the right link?

SisterMary
October 8th, 2009, 1:06 pm
Your link http://www.huppi.com doesn't bring up what you posted. Can you post the right link?
Oops. Sorry. Try this: www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-welfareblack.htm

Ballygrl
October 8th, 2009, 1:06 pm
Sunstein: Americans too racist for socialism
Defends communism, welfare state but says 'white majority' oppose programs aiding blacks, Hispanics

Posted: October 07, 2009
By Aaron Klein
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

JERUSALEM – The U.S. should move in the direction of socialism but the country's "white majority" opposes welfare since such programs largely would benefit minorities, especially blacks and Hispanics, argued President Obama's newly confirmed regulatory czar, Cass Sunstein.

"The absence of a European-style social welfare state is certainly connected with the widespread perception among the white majority that the relevant programs would disproportionately benefit African Americans (and more recently Hispanics)," wrote Sunstein.

The Obama czar's controversial comments were made in his 2004 book "The Second Bill of Rights," which was obtained and reviewed by WND. In the book, Sunstein openly argues for bringing socialism to the U.S. and even lends support to communism.

Cont'd: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=112243

Obama had to try hard to recruit such an army of radical weirdos to his army of czars, although it shouldn't be suprising, considering the kind of people with whom he was associated all of his life.

Yeah, like Cuba has worked out so well huh?

agent_86
October 8th, 2009, 1:10 pm
I don't think most people regadless of party are against welfare. The problem is people who do nothing but sit on it. I've seen plenty of that. Familys that have lived that way for years. And the children end up the same way. In our city we have people moving here for the welfare. There is'nt alot of job opportunity in this area but we have alot of people moving in. Another benifit of this is most of the serious crime is committed buy them also. This is what we are against.

I'm against government welfare for any citizen, regardless of skin color.

I'm an equal opportunity "hater."

croupier101
October 8th, 2009, 1:11 pm
Oops. Sorry. Try this: www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-welfareblack.htm

SisterMary, as your study shows, it was conducted in 1994, before the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act of 1996, or its easy name Welfare Reform.

In 1994, during your study. 5.1 Million families received welfare.

As of 2006, only 1.9 Million families received welfare.

The welfare rolls were purged after 1996.

JenyEliza
October 8th, 2009, 1:22 pm
So if you oppose socialism to "help" blacks and Latinos, you're a racist?

What about me, I'm half black half white. Does that make me half racist because I oppose socialism?

I suppose so.

It also makes President Obammy half-racist, as he is 1/2 white, 1/4 Arabic and 1/4 Kenyan.

Of course, you'll never get him to admit that he is 1/2 white, nor 1/2 racist himself. :doh: :rolleyes:

JenyEliza
October 8th, 2009, 2:01 pm
One day, even you may stop using skin color as an excuse. That may be an epiphany, even to you.

harumph! I'm not holding my breath until the day croup stops using skin color as an excuse for all that ails this country and as an excuse to blame conservatives and republicans.

Croup. Is. Not. Going. To. Change. Period.

croupier101
October 8th, 2009, 2:09 pm
harumph! I'm not holding my breath until the day croup stops using skin color as an excuse for all that ails this country and as an excuse to blame conservatives and republicans.
After all you have posted here, you really shouldn't personally attack or preach to others abuot making excuses for behavior. I am in absolute shock that you of all people would chastize someone else over making excuses, whining, blaming others, or personal responsibilty. Seriously, you have got to be kidding me.

I don't need excuses, my life is great. I wouldn't trade it for the world. You would never see me come here and blame all my lifes troubles on others. Know what I mean?

harumph
October 8th, 2009, 2:12 pm
After all you have posted here, you really shouldn't personally attack or preach to others abuot making excuses for behavior. I am in absolute shock that you of all people would chastize someone else over making excuses, whining, blaming others, or personal responsibilty. Seriously, you have got to be kidding me.

I don't need excuses, my life is great. I wouldn't trade it for the world. You would never see me come here and blame all my lifes troubles on others. Know what I mean?
Wait. What?

ExDem
October 8th, 2009, 2:26 pm
I never use race as an excuse, I leave that to conservatives like yourself who like to play the victim and use race as a device to divide Americans up. It is such a cowardly and sad exercise.

Oh, please. The DIMS are the ones that use race for political gain, and they always have. By the way, I don't oppose welfare based on skin pigmentation. That has nothing to do with it. I oppose welfare as a way of life for those that are perfectly capable of working.......I dont give a **** what color their skin is. I oppose welfare for lazy women that continue to have illegitimate children they cannot afford, fathered by lazy ass men that choose not to support their children. Having children does not make you unable to work.....unless you are lazyass welfare queen. I believe if we get the lazyasses off the welfare rolls, those that truly need it........the handicapped and infirm that are truly unable to work-----would have a better quality of life because we could afford to provide them with more aid. I don't have a problem helping ANYONE that is truly unable to work. Can you not have one single thought that is not focused on ones skin pigmentation? Pathetic.

agent_86
October 8th, 2009, 2:39 pm
The Obama administration may just go down as the most racially dividing presidency in history of the US - and possibly its last.

Greyghost
October 8th, 2009, 2:48 pm
According to Rasmussen about 56% of whites label themselves conservative. So yes, that is correct.


Not racists necessarily, but most are uninformed regarding welfare statistics.

I am not a racist and I am NOT uninformed on welfare. I see exactly how pathetic the welfare system is every single day. Most of the people that get on it have no intention whatsoever of getting off of it. Hell, why should they, they don't have to get a job and they will continue to get everything handed to them. I also especially love to see the person in front of me paying with food stamps and then haul their bags out to their brand new Escalade. Welfare is a broken system and should be shut down.

MadazzVeteran
October 8th, 2009, 2:53 pm
I am not a racist and I am NOT uninformed on welfare. I see exactly how pathetic the welfare system is every single day. Most of the people that get on it have no intention whatsoever of getting off of it. Hell, why should they, they don't have to get a job and they will continue to get everything handed to them. I also especially love to see the person in front of me paying with food stamps and then haul their bags out to their brand new Escalade. Welfare is a broken system and should be shut down.

On that same note, I wrote an OP some time ago that stated the "Gummit Figures" on welfare; and wonder of wonders there has only been a 3/10 of one percent in reduction of the population on welfare roles since the War on Poverty was begun under Lyndon "How many boys you gonna kill today" Johnson. Anyone who touts the welfare system as a success is just a damn idiot! Just another example of how truly effective the government really is. They are so damn inept they couldn't work at a pie factory!